View Full Version : Bush: I am not Beelzebub!


MetaKron
09-24-06, 08:16 AM
More like Little Nicky if you ask me (annoyingly lame son of Satan played by Adam Sandler).

Prison Planet article (http://www.prisonplanet.net/articles/September2006/220906Sulfur.htm)

Bush Rages: “I am not Beelzebub, Lord of Sulfur”

Mike Whitney | September 22 2006

“The devil is right at home…. The devil himself is right in the house. And the devil came here yesterday. Yesterday the devil came right here…And it still smells of sulfur today.” Hugo Chavez; address to the UN General Assembly 9-20-06

My oh my, has Hugo Chavez caused a furor. Looking at the news reports filed in the last 24 hours, one would think that he snuck a dirty-bomb into the United Nations rather than gave a speech. In fact, the plucky Chavez may have delivered the finest 30 minute presentation that august assembly has ever heard. In that short span of time he publicly throttled the Global Emperor in front of 6 billion people and left his bruised and bloodied carcass splattered across the canvas like Roberto Duran in Round 9 of the middleweight championship match…..

“No mas, no mas no mas”…

And what about the performance? Is Chavez part of a theatre troupe or is he just earning his chops as a method actor?

Whatever it is; it seems to be working. After skewering Bush as “the devil” and sniffing around for sulfur (the traditional sign of Lucifer) Chavez performed his ablutions with a sign of the cross and an angelic expression worthy of Botticelli.

If you’re a lefty, it just doesn’t get any better than this.

Chavez should give lessons in public speaking. His appearance was like a clap of thunder; waving Chomsky with one hand and pummeling Bush with the other. He managed to heap more muck on “Guantanamo Nation” than anyone since Harold Pinter gave his blistering Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech on 12-7-05. That’s when Pinter said:

“The crimes of the United States have been systematic, constant, vicious, remorseless, but very few people have ever talked about them. You have to hand it to America. It has exercised quite a clinical manipulation of power worldwide while masquerading as a force for universal good. It is a brilliant, even witty, highly successful act of hypnosis.”

Chavez matched Pinter word for word, exposing the hypocrisy, lies and brutality of an administration that never stops lecturing about freedom and liberation even though it grinds out mountains of carnage everywhere it goes.

And where was Bush when Chavez delivered his broadside ….hiding behind Karen Hughes skirts, picking out a new eye-liner for his next televised harangue against Muslims, retrieving his Yale pom-poms from the dry-cleaners?

Our benighted leader always seems to disappear whenever the prospect of danger arises. He skedaddled when his number came up for the Alabama National Guard and he lit-out for the safety of a Nebraska cornfield when the planes hit the towers. He even vamoosed at a trade summit in Argentina when Chavez threatened “to sneak up behind him and give him a bear-hug.” That really put a spring in old Bush’s step as he quickly scuttled to the safety of Airforce One.

One thing is certain, whenever there’s peril, President “gone-to-soon” will be speeding off in a trail of vapor.

In any case, Bush was not missed at the UN massacre yesterday. Chavez held-forth like a preacher at a brothel; scattering the bodies and kicking open the windows to let the sunlight in. He delivered one, ferocious roundhouse punch after another….

Boom, boom, boom…until the crowd rose in a thunderous 5 minute ovation. (which was carefully omitted from the TV coverage)

“What would the people of the world tell (Bush) if they were given the floor?” Chavez asked. “What would they have to say? I have some inkling of what they would say, what the oppressed people think. They would say, ‘Yankee imperialist, go home.”

“He spoke to the people of Lebanon,” Chavez added. “Many of you have seen, he said, how your homes and communities were caught in the crossfire. How cynical can you get? What a capacity to lie shamefacedly. The bombs in Beirut were delivered with laser precision….This is imperialist (and) genocidal; the empire and Israel firing on the people of Palestine and Lebanon. That is what happened. And now we hear, ‘We’re suffering because we see homes destroyed.’”

Ouch; no wonder Bush “high-tailed it” out of the UN before the ensuing bloodbath.

Chavez is like a battering ram punching holes in the wall of silence which surrounds King George. Right after his speech I checked in at CNN and, as I expected, Bush-apologist Wolf Blitzer was spinning in his wingtips frantically trying to stitch together the tattered image of the Dear Leader. A quick peek at Google News confirms that the entire arsenal of corporate media is now engaged in the hopeless task of salvaging Bush’s wretched presidency.

But the damage is done. Chavez played the match on Bush’s home turf and beat him like a drum. Bush is probably still quivering under his desk.

“There are other ways of thinking,” Chavez opined. “There are young people who think differently and this has happened in a mere decade. It has been shown that ‘the end of history’ was a false assumption, and the same is true of Pax Americana and the establishment of a ‘capitalist neo-liberal world. The system has only generated more poverty. Who believes in it now?”

Yes, who believes it now? Who believes in a party which has only produced two ideas in its entire history; tax cuts and war? Who believes that endless bombardment and martial law can be passed off as democracy and liberation? Who believes that a rogue’s gallery of liars, war-profiteers and gangsters can work in the public’s interest?

“We want ideas to save our planet from the imperialist threat. And, hopefully in this very century, in not to long a time, we will see a new era, and for our children and grandchildren, a world of peace based on the fundamental principles of the United Nations, but a renewed United Nations.”

Yes, Hugo, we want peace with our neighbors, peace with our friends, and peace with our enemies. We’re sick of war and the men who want war; and that includes every feckless politico in Congress, Democrat and Republican alike.

“The hegemonistic pretensions of the American empire are placing at risk the very existence of the human species. We appeal to the people of the United States and of the world to halt this threat which is like a sword hanging over our heads.”

There’s no time to lose. We have to dump Bush NOW and get on with the pressing issues of global warming, peak oil, nuclear proliferation, poverty and AIDS.

Chavez is right; the present model for global rule is broken and corrupt. We need a change.

“Capitalism is savagery,” Chavez boomed.

Viva Chavez.

Now I want the text of Chavez's speech. Anything that has Shrub that upset must be a gem.

Baron Max
09-24-06, 08:27 AM
Just one person's opinion, nothing more, nothing less.

I disagree with the man's opinion, but lest we forget, millions of Americans died to give him the right to make such statements. I disagree with his statement, but I'll fight to the death for his right to say it.

Baron Max

MetaKron
09-24-06, 08:50 AM
I don't know enough about Chavez to know whether I want to agree with him, but I think he's pretty truthful about Bush II.

leopold99
09-24-06, 08:56 AM
but I think he's pretty truthful about Bush II.
i'm sure hitler was pretty truthful about eisenhower too.

MetaKron
09-24-06, 09:06 AM
i'm sure hitler was pretty truthful about eisenhower too.

So what did Hitler have to say about Eisenhower years before Eisenhower was President?

leopold99
09-24-06, 09:20 AM
you know something metakron? the worlds problems are not americas fault, we are not what is wrong with this planet. but when we try to clean up the mess we get slapped upside the head and you're jumping on the bandwagon with the bashers.

Nikelodeon
09-24-06, 09:21 AM
but when we try to clean up the mess
America cleans up the mess?

Godless
09-24-06, 09:23 AM
Now I want the text of Chavez's speech. Anything that has Shrub that upset must be a gem.

No problem check it out here (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/20/AR2006092000893.html)


*I disagree with the man's opinion, but lest we forget, millions of Americans died to give him the right to make such statements. I disagree with his statement, but I'll fight to the death for his right to say it.*

And don't you think he knows that? What he apposes though is that many million more Americans will be dieing if they continue with this sharade of deceit, by this administration! ;)

Lets not forget what happened to Custer!

Godless

Baron Max
09-24-06, 09:27 AM
....many million more Americans will be dieing if they continue with this sharade of deceit, by this administration!

Isn't that what some people said about us entering World War II? And would you have agreed with that sentiment?

Baron Max

Nikelodeon
09-24-06, 09:28 AM
Isn't that what some people said about us entering World War II?
Source?

leopold99
09-24-06, 09:31 AM
Capitalism is savagery,” Chavez boomed.

shows you how much chavez knows.

Godless
09-24-06, 10:15 AM
Isn't that what some people said about us entering World War II? And would you have agreed with that sentiment?

How to ask politely for someone to take their head out of their ass?

There's no polite way, I'm sorry Baron but you can't compare WWII to fighting "terrorists"

For one WWII had a defined foe, in the war on "terrorism" such a thing does not exist, a terrorist just may be define anyone who apposes this administration! Emperor Bush's own statement "You are either with us, or your with the terrorists" So any policy you may disagree with, you are made a foe, since you side against them, then you must be a terrorist! :(

Baron Max
09-24-06, 10:48 AM
There's no polite way, I'm sorry Baron but you can't compare WWII to fighting "terrorists"

I wasn't comparing that, asshole! Read my post and try to comprehend what you read next time instead of jumping to conclusions based on your own idiotic agenda! Read it again, asshole!

And, just so you know, if I want to, I can compare any-fuckin'-thing I want to, any-fuckin'-time I want to!

Baron Max

Nikelodeon
09-24-06, 10:51 AM
I wasn't comparing that, asshole!
Of course you FUCKING were you twat!

Baron Max
09-24-06, 10:55 AM
Of course you FUCKING were you twat!

Read it again, Nick ....you've failed the second test of English comprehension, please try not to fail for a third time.

Baron Max

S.A.M.
09-24-06, 11:49 AM
Americans should wake up and smell their image worldwide..


If the past 100 years were widely considered the American Century, this new one is fast shaping up as the Anti-American Century.

From Spanish plazas to Parisian metros, American tourists are being quizzed, grilled and even spat on by people who do not approve of the Bush administration's drive for a war against Saddam Hussein.

As a result, a declining number of Americans (54% today vs. 79% a year ago) believes that the USA enjoys a favorable image abroad, according to a recent Gallup poll. And a majority of Americans (64%) cite a fear of unfriendliness as the top concern of traveling abroad during wartime, according to a survey in the February issue of Conde Nast Traveler.

Anecdotal evidence from across Europe indicates those fears are not unfounded.

If European criticism of the United States was previously limited to newspaper headlines and kaffeeklatsch debates, the tug of war over Iraq has unleashed a torrent of frustrated invective on the streets.

Much of such vitriol is aimed at the Bush administration. That has never been more in evidence than during the weekend of Feb. 15, when more than 6 million people in roughly 60 countries hit the streets in some of the largest anti-war protests since the Vietnam War.


...many Americans abroad have stories to tell. Their warning? Expect the unexpected. While living in Spain recently, Jane Kelly, 20, recalls a friend being spat on for being American.

"In any country you're going to get people who do this," says Kelly, who was studying at the Madrid campus of Boston's Suffolk University.

However, fellow student Kate Perlis, 20, says the atmosphere was charged. "It seems that the only English a lot of people there know are the words, 'We hate Bush.' "

Joshua Eckblad, 28, an American high-tech manager living in Madrid, has had similar experiences. Daily he faces the comments of Spaniards who "feel free to say anything against America, who think Bush and his people know nothing about the world."

His sister, Vanina, 27, an architect living in Paris, has fared no better. She says that the other day a man on the street "told me to go back to where I came from."

Such run-ins can cause some visitors to contemplate retreat. When Linda Severson, an American who has lived in Brussels for two years, was visiting Amsterdam recently with her mother, the pair found themselves at the Hard Rock Cafe, surrounded by anti-American protesters.

"We were looking down at all the demonstrations and signs that said 'Kill Bush, not Iraqis,' and we just sat there stunned," she says. "We felt a little homesick."

"One guy saw that I was American and said he just had to tell me what he thought of my country," he says. "His opinion was that America is being run by a rabid cowboy."

Nebelsick also carries a cigarette lighter emblazoned with an American flag. Several times of late, folks have turned down his offer of a light as soon as they caught a glimpse of the Stars and Stripes.

"The era of Americans as heroes is over," he says.

During Vaughn's stay in England, he found himself criticized on all those levels. Like a boxer countering each blow, he shot back with the best responses he could.

Sometimes the complaints left him speechless, like the time he was told " 'America had no culture' by a kid wearing a Kobe Bryant T-shirt and listening to rapper DMX."

But one incident really stung.

"Man, it was bad," says the Rat Pack-y star of Swingers. "These girls saw us and were kind of flirting, and they kept asking us if we were American. Finally we said, 'Yes,' and they just took off.

"One girl turns and says, 'We were hoping you were Canadian.' Canadian? Since when was it cooler to be Canadian?"



http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-03-03-anti-american-usat_x.htm

MetaKron
09-24-06, 12:34 PM
you know something metakron? the worlds problems are not americas fault, we are not what is wrong with this planet. but when we try to clean up the mess we get slapped upside the head and you're jumping on the bandwagon with the bashers.

There is something wrong with that?

Godless
09-24-06, 02:15 PM
Better be an asshole than a moron with his head stuck up his ass!.

Good you can take a joke, a little name calling never hurt anyone, still though, aren't you clueless of why one can't define our foe, and when we can? That's why one can't compare these two wars. Yea right many people perhaps indicated that going into WWII may kill millions of Americans, yea that may be right, but did you know our government "manipulated" pearl harbor to happen so that the japs attack us, then giving us reason to enter the war?

click (http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/pearl.html)

click (http://www.thenewamerican.com/departments/feature/1999/070499.htm)

At least we knew our so called enemy: the Japs!

And then again manipulate the ignorant people to enter yet another war, in the name of defence, when the smoking gun is pointing at the whitehouse!
but the enemy created in this scene is no-one! just a word "terrorism" our government attacks Afganistan, when supposedly the 19 terrorist were from Saudi, we are deceived that Irag was in on it, we are told 24/7 Irag has WMD's and the rest as they say is history. However a comon foe we do not have, only an idealogy!

leopold99
09-24-06, 04:31 PM
There is something wrong with that?
try not to be so vague next time metakron.

but i do know this, anyone ,like chavez, that says capitalism is savagery has an axe to grind. anyone that has an axe to grind isn't objective.

leopold99
09-24-06, 04:39 PM
but did you know our government "manipulated" pearl harbor to happen so that the japs attack us, then giving us reason to enter the war?

click (http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/pearl.html)

japan attacked pearl harbor of her own free will

Neildo
09-24-06, 05:54 PM
but did you know our government "manipulated" pearl harbor to happen so that the japs attack us, then giving us reason to enter the war?

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japan attacked pearl harbor of her own free will

Go learn the definition of "manipulate".

- N

leopold99
09-24-06, 05:57 PM
it's called the power of propaganda. pretty effective wouldn't you say?

Godless
09-24-06, 11:53 PM
**Setting the Stage

The first step to understanding Pearl Harbor is to appreciate that, in 1941, the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt was taking measures that helped draw us toward war. While no one can deny or excuse Japan's belligerence in those days, it is also true that our government provoked that country in various ways. These included:

• freezing her assets in America;

• closing the Panama Canal to her shipping;

• progressively halting vital exports to Japan until finally we joined Britain in an all-out embargo;

• sending a hostile note to the Japanese ambassador implying military threats if Tokyo did not alter its Pacific policies; and

• on November 26th -- just 11 days before Pearl -- delivering an ultimatum that demanded, as prerequisites to resumed trade, that Japan withdraw all her troops from both China and Indochina, and in effect abrogate her Tripartite Treaty with Germany and Italy.** From the links provided.

Learn to read the godamn links ;)

leopold99
09-25-06, 12:24 AM
**Setting the Stage

The first step to understanding Pearl Harbor is to appreciate that, in 1941, the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt was taking measures that helped draw us toward war.
these had to do with the states, not japan
While no one can deny or excuse Japan's belligerence in those days, it is also true that our government provoked that country in various ways.
they was not meant to provoke (a word probably chosen by a propagandist)
but to show japan that her actions was not tolorable
These included:
• freezing her assets in America;
in 1941 how much was that? almost nothing

• closing the Panama Canal to her shipping;
this hurt real bad seeing that most of japans trade was with asia
• progressively halting vital exports to Japan until finally we joined Britain in an all-out embargo;
the only 'vital' export we halted was oil.
after japan raped china this had no effect at all
• sending a hostile note to the Japanese ambassador implying military threats if Tokyo did not alter its Pacific policies;
yes i agree, japan shouldn't have slaughtered millions of chinese


and
• on November 26th -- just 11 days before Pearl -- delivering an ultimatum that demanded, as prerequisites to resumed trade, that Japan withdraw all her troops from both China and Indochina, and in effect abrogate her Tripartite Treaty with Germany and Italy.
which is not unreasonable


Learn to read the godamn links ;)
learn to reconize propaganda when you see it.