Hey guys. long time reader, first time poster.

Read an article that the CIA was looking for a drug they could use to brainwash people (wipe their memory and then feed them a made up story about their past and who they are) this is i believe how LSD was created. I don't think LSD is very useful for this purpose (correct me if i'm wrong) but did the CIA ever make a brainwashing drug? are they allowed to use them on their own citizens or only foriegners?

Hmmm... I used to know. :bugeye:

- Warren

hmmmm....maybe you been watching too many hollydoodoo movies...????? hmmm????:bugeye:

The CIA had a project called MK_ULTRA in the 60s which was all about developing mind-altering drugs and such. They even tested some by pumping it into a uni's water supply. There's heaps of info about them all over the place.

All through the Cold War, both sides worked very hard on good old truth drugs. Big deal.

Our main government research institution, the CSIRO, recently performed experiments showing that beliefs, memories, can be implanted by simply telling people things. They simply told subjects things such as "Remember the blue car you almost ran into this morning?" and some would take it in as a memory. It worked best on kids of course, but even adults could be manipulated like this. This effect can be achieved simply through voice. Why not improve it through drugs?

As stated earlier, they experimented with lots of drugs and drug combinations. They experimented with marijuana (lol its true), LSD, amphetamines, barbiturates (including the "truth serum" sodium pentathol), alcohol, mushrooms, synthesized stuff, and any combinations of the above.

Some worked to varying degrees, but none really worked that well. Alcohol seemed to work best actually, along with a low dosage of barbiturate.

Hypnosis coupled with disinhibiting drugs could make a person very suggestible though. With the properly trained person in charge of the subject, anyway.

History of the making of LSD from the man himself

http://www.psychedelic-library.org/hofmann.htm

Sorry to say but the Americans didn't discover it first.

The drug Scopolamine may be the best candidate.
Look at
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/scopolamine/scopolamine.shtml

Welcome to sciforums, Bindegal.

That sort of thing causes brain damage and often death. Those that would go through something like that would also remember stuff a small percent of the time.

The cia uses the date-rape-drug? Feh

Which date-rape-drug is that?

Alcohol is the most widely used :rolleyes: And it's true, don't deny it. How many guys wait for girls to get very drunk, so they can be taken advantage of?

If you mean the drug that's added to alcohol to intoxicate someone faster and more heavily, that could be GHB or Flunitrazepam.

www.erowid.org

:cool: We all know them old fogies at the CIA use the DRD's to get some on a lonely friday night ;) :D

Flunitrazepam? does it have any street names?

Originally posted by MisinformD
Hey guys. long time reader, first time poster.



do you listen to Tom Lycus (spelling?) by any chance? haha
FIRST time caLLER, looooong time listener.

I recall reading an article about the cia a few months back, that they brainwashed some embassy official lady from USSR or somthing like that.....She was found a week after her disappearance, sick and with amnesia.

Oh, yeah. Flunitrazepam is a prescription under the name of Rohypnal. On the street they're called "Roofies".