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Hello all,
I'm new to this site and have an interesting situation I've been dealing with for some time now.
I had a brain scan done in which the Doctor had found several foreign objects within the tissue of the brain. He found it to be extremely impossible and exciting for such objects to be found in my brain, but there they were.
I have never followed up with more test to get a better understanding of the makeup or reasons for these objects and impressions.
The depth interval between each scan could have missed an object and yet exposed a tissue compression near the object, causing the impressions.
In either case, it was confirmed foreign objects are in my brain and possibly more where the impressions are located.
I would like to share a few of these scans with you all and possibly get some good feedback.
I placed 9 snapshot photos of the scans. Simply click on the thumbnails to enlarge the photo to view the objects and/or impressions.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d141/ImplantScans/
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Giambattista 03-03-06, 02:08 AM Sorry dude, don't know what to say there.
As for the pictures, yes, it does look like a brain, but I don't know if many people around here could actually tell what's going on in the pictures.
Are these objects removable? Is that dangerous?
Do you have any idea how these supposedly foreign objects got there? Any abductions in your memory bank?
Giambattista 03-03-06, 02:10 AM One more thing: what exactly does your doctor say about them? If it's so impossible for them to be there, he must be at least TRYING to get a handle on it, I would assume.
Why did you get these scans in the first place?
I'm sorry, let me give a little history.
In 1997, upon returning home from work, something happened. All I know is that it was around 1pm, I was working in Nebraska out in the country and was on my way home, and the next thing I know, it was night time, in the summer, and I was still driving home.
I knew something was wrong, but couldn't remember where all those hours of time went too. Missing time. I have never seen any sort of aliens at all. I don't remember what happened at all. The next morning I had what looked like a scar next to my temple about the size of a quarter, it faded away over the next two weeks. I had felt movement under my skin and maybe skull next to my right ear.
The movement would last about for 5 to 10 seconds and then stop. This would happen about 20 times a day and lasted for several years.
Several years later, I had been having some intenseheadaches and then my vision began to alter very strangely. It seemed like I was looking through a crystal prism and I could place my hand in front of me and not see it.
I went to the hospital and told them what was going on and they rushed me into do a CT Scan. The Doctor said this happens when pressure is on the brain and he felt I had a major blood vessel leaking into my brain.
They found no blood leaking into my brain, just these objects. Several doctors all looked at my scans, and the one doctor said I had no serious worry of dying because no blood was leaking. So I left the hospital and have simply had to deal with the problem.
The doctors never spoke with me about the objects except for a couple comments of very strange and avoided discussing it any further.
On the CD of the scans, the doctor described the locations of two objects and stated it requires further investigation and that it is truly a find.
No comment was ever discussed about removing the objects or the dangers of them or anything else.
The Doctor only addressed the issue of my vision resulting from pressure on my brain and that I was safe because no blood was leaking into my brain.
Giambattista 03-03-06, 08:37 AM Well, that is quite unnerving, if true. If I were you, I would make a big deal of it IMMEDIATAMENTE, SENZA RITARDO!!! :eek:
If you're truly serious, contact everyone you can get a hold of. Budd Hopkins, Whitley Strieber, Dr. Roger Leir (claims to remove implants), and Dr. John Mack, if he were still alive! Those are probably the "Greats" as far as abduction is concerned. Oh, yeah, and David Jacobs. That's just for starters. I imagine Stanton Friedman would like to hear about it, and just about any other ufologist, great and small.
Like I said, if you're truly serious, perhaps something can be done about it. If this is truly as astounding and inexplicable as your doctor claims it is, then I would get on the horn with him and get some straight answers from him. You need to see a couple different neurologists, I imagine, so they can brainstorm, if they're into that kind of thing.
But, above all, contact some people who are serious about this kind of research. You may have a truly extraordinary case on your hands, whether it's extraterrestrial or not. If you're lucky, you may at least get some funding to have the things extracted, assuming it's not too risky.
This sounds crazy, and I can't make heads or tails of those pictures for the most part, but if you're for real, then please, for yourself and many others, demand some more concrete answers, at the very least. I don't see why your doctors should be so reluctant to talk about it.
That's just my theory, at least.
Giambattista 03-03-06, 08:41 AM Okay, maybe, if I were you, just contact one of the persons on the list, like, Budd Hopkins. If this is a bonified mystery (and possible alien implant) then the others would undoubtedly find out very quickly!
Mr Anonymous 03-03-06, 08:42 AM I knew something was wrong, but couldn't remember where all those hours of time went too. Missing time.
From the title you give, both to this thread and the CT Scans you've uploaded on line, you clearly consider these objects foreign in nature - I'm sure you've read extensively on the subject of Implants, I'm not going to palm you off with the usual. Simple question really:
Is it your belief that these things found their way into skull only subsequent to your experience of missing time, or, have you ever considered the notion that perhaps they may have caused it?
Giambattista 03-03-06, 08:56 AM I considered that. But if you look at the rough outline of the chronology, he very strongly implies that the scar and the "movements" of the object(s) and the resultant problems occured AFTER the missing time. One would think that losing hours out of the blue would have been preceded by other mental handicaps or physical discomforts. However, this episode seems to have been the starting point.
Just my observations. And my suggestions are that he get some REAL medical attention and diagnosis, not this light conversation he appears to have been dealt so far!
SkinWalker 03-03-06, 09:14 AM Giambattista,
That you would recommend the woo-woo cretins above for someone that may actually have a serious medical disorder demonstrates either your total lack of regard for human life or that you've been completely duped by their wild claims of space aliens. Certainly this is indicative of your acceptence of their space-alien hypothesis (each has openly proclaimed their belief in it) and, thus, indicative of your lack of any objectivity with the subject.
Cuda, if you value your health, you will ignore the advice of the uninformed who recommend ufo nutters as a solution. Seek out the advice and consul from a neurologist -someone actually experienced with the physiology of the human brain and how to treat it. You may even have some sort of minor heterotopia that can cause epilepsy if not monitored or treated in the future. Such conditions can be present your whole life and only manifest themselves as problematic in adulthood.
Streiber is a fiction writer; Hopkins is an embarassment to his colleages; Leir is a freakin' foot doctor. None are qualified to look at your brain scans and none are qualified to comment on what could be wrong. Indeed, there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that Leir has ever removed an object of alien design or even an object of design at all.
See your neurologist. Ask questions. Raise your concerns. Just because your doctors comment that something seems "interesting" or "unique" doesn't imply that it is unearthly or even an "implant." It may simply mean that someone with a fascination in a particular field has found something they've never encountered before.
Ignore the thoughtless and woo-woo advice of Giambattista. He has finally revealed his true nature on this board.
not true. skinwalker
what part of.....And my suggestions are that he get some REAL medical attention and diagnosis, not this light conversation he appears to have been dealt so far!
...do you not understand?
and YOU mr SKIN are full of F>E>A>R
shit. you are too timid to even repond to my question--which i'v now asked yu several times, as to WHERE this fear came from, which YOU term 'de-programming'....!
SkinWalker 03-03-06, 10:20 AM not true. skinwalker
what part of.....
...do you not understand?
That should have been the only recommendation. Charlatans and witchdoctors are unnecessary and a waste of precious time. My criticism stands. I retract none of it. Giambattista acted in a very callous and reckless manner for someone who may have a very real medical condition.
SkinWalker 03-03-06, 10:23 AM and YOU mr SKIN are full of F>E>A>R
shit. you are too timid to even repond to my question--which i'v now asked yu several times, as to WHERE this fear came from, which YOU term 'de-programming'....!
Three things, duendy: 1) You asked a question to which I've already provided sufficient answer in another thread long ago. 2) I only just read your post a few minutes ago (unlike others, I have a job, a Uni, and a family with which to spend time as well as a few good books). 3) I rarely read your posts, this mornging was an exception.
Mr Anonymous 03-03-06, 10:28 AM I considered that. But if you look at the rough outline of the chronology...
Actually Giambattista, if you read the rough outline of chronology as stated Cuba's account begins actually with an instance of memory loss - subsequent to that the discovery of a hitherto unnoticed scar.
Not a wound. Scar tissue.
Since in Cuba's own words Cuba himself clearly discloses he's experienced a definite instance of memory loss that he remains aware of if we are prepared to actually pay attention to the facts as presented and not just shoot from the hip in our conclusions we have to consider the fact that Cuba's account of the chronology being presented here can't entirely be taken at face value.
The facts as presented:
1: A clear disclosure of memory impairment having being experienced on the part of the subject.
2: A wound discerned described as a "scar" - not a wound, indicating a resent trauma, but a scar specifically.
3: A disclosure on the part of the subject regarding how the objects in question have clearly presented neurological consequences, specifically an impediment of the visual cortex/optical nerve brought about by pressure caused by the presence of the objects indicated in the CT Scans Cuba provides.
Given that the objects in question have clearly presented definite neurological consequences, ie visual impairment sufficient to warrant investigation thus producing the CT scans Cuba provides, clearly these objects present actual changes to the way normal brain function works, albeit temporarily in effect. "Memory" is stored and layed down on the outer surface of the human brain, the Cerebral Cortex, that coral like outer structure familiar to all as being the brain.
Damage, pressure to any part of this region causes memory loss. Supposition?
The evidence: Cuba's Scans (http://photobucket.com/albums/d141/ImplantScans/)
On even peripheral scrutiny, not even bothering to look particularly closely, you can clearly see evidence of impression marks resident in the tissue of the brain - clearly indicating something solid resided against these area's for some time. There isn't anyway in hell synapses present in these area's shouldn't have been affected - in conclusion, Cuba's initial instance of "memory loss" couldn't possibly have been his first.
It just indicates at best that the incident in the car happens to be the first Cuba consciously recognises as having occurred.
The formation of scar tissue over the trauma Cuba indicates he found on his head clearly indicates an injury of some longer standing than Cuba acknowledges - this, coupled with the facts as presented and evidenced in the scans themselves indicate strongly that this particular trauma happened some time prior to Cuba own account of driving in his car and subsequently loosing time.
These so called Implants are actually the consequence of a previous head trauma.
Frankly Giambattista I have no idea what it is you have been "considering" here, but it isn't at all anything Cuba himself has actually said and it doesn't frankly seem actually very much at all full, whatever it was.
Try paying attention.
Three things, duendy: 1) You asked a question to which I've already provided sufficient answer in another thread long ago. 2) I only just read your post a few minutes ago (unlike others, I have a job, a Uni, and a family with which to spend time as well as a few good books). 3) I rarely read your posts, this mornging was an exception.
so. where's the thread then, if u pleeze?
That should have been the only recommendation. Charlatans and witchdoctors are unnecessary and a waste of precious time. My criticism stands. I retract none of it. Giambattista acted in a very callous and reckless manner for someone who may have a very real medical condition.
perhaps.
however, going along with the assumption that alien implants are a reality (of which i have no opinion due to inadequate info) and conjuring up a scenario where i could have been possibly subject to an alien implant, i will not contact any of the usual players. i presume them to be suspect, compromised and most of all, tired old hacks. illogical and emotional perhaps but i will allow myself that. nor would i wish to be part of the media circus that would almost certainly ensue. i would be lauded by the crackpots and vilified by the pseudos.
who the fuck would want that?
i'll do my own investigation
ja, i am smart like that
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Actually Giambattista, if you read the rough outline of chronology as stated Cuba's account begins actually with an instance of memory loss - subsequent to that the discovery of a hitherto unnoticed scar.
Not a wound. Scar tissue.
Thanks for your input and I'll explain further.
Yes, the area in question (scar), looked exactly like what a scar looks like.
When I arrived home that night, I told my wife I was tired and told her something didn't feel right, and went to bed. In the morning while brushing my teeth, I noticed what looked like a partial scar extending out from under my hair line, next to my temple. I moved the hair back and saw the rest of the circle scar tissue.
I had never had any injuries on my head at all and never had this scar resemblance on my temple prior to that day, except maybe the night before when I got home, but never had the opportunity to look in the mirror because I went right to bed.
From the morning after the missing time, I had the movements under my skin next to the scar tissue area and within days I began to unwillingly/unknowingly disassociate myself with my everyday activity that eventually caused me to sit and stare at the wall for hours upon hours. About two months after the missing time date, I was in terrible shape, staring at nothing for hours until my wife would shake me out of it and I could remember absolutely nothing for those hours.
She took me to a doctor and after testing and examining me, he stated my brain was not producing any Serotonin and he proscribed medication for me.
Eventually I began to get back to reality and function normal once again.
I did however experience a type of fear or paranoia for several years and had to fight this problem just to leave my house. I have no idea where this fear or paranoia came from.
As for the scar area, it first was about the size of a dime and expanded larger over the next week to about the size of a quarter, and then it began to fade away over the next week. About two weeks of the visual scar before it was gone.
At the beginning I thought maybe I somehow had a tissue eating virus because it got larger everyday. It was strange to me to watch what looked like a wound scar, growing.
Several months after I began to function normally, I started looking up alien information on the net and discovered the discussions of alien implants. I began to wonder if this is what happened to me. The reason I began towards this type of questioning is because the day before my missing time, my wife and I encountered a shinny looking ball in the sky about a mile from where we were driving. I began chasing after it because we wanted to see what it was, and thinking it might be a silver air balloon. It was very bright and almost like looking into a bright strong light. We chased after it for several miles down a farm road in the corn fields before it just vanished.
The day of my missing time (the next day), I was driving from work and it was this very spot that we spotted the ball that my missing time happened, this spot is also where I remember waking up and realizing it was about dark night and I was still driving home.
From work to home was about 50 miles. This was the history of the event.
About a year ago is when I finally got brave enough to speak to others about the incident and my scans. After looking for a couple years, I found a guy named Derrel Sims and Roger Leir, I contacted both by email, but decided to correspond with Derrel Sims only.
I have not given my CD of the scans to anyone yet, because I was looking for a qualified Doctor to view my scans and offer medical opinions of them.
Derrel Sims has no brain type doctor available and so I didn't send him the scans. I don't want to be judged as an alien nut case and have my name splattered all over conspiracy web sites like I have read about others.
I contacted several medical institutions trying to find someone dealing with the brain, willing to investigate my situation further, simply out of interest.
I don't have the means to go out and further place myself in debt to begin the whole process all over again, so I've been not too aggressive in trying to get an investigative discovery of my scans.
I don't recall any other times in my life of having memory loss, and have never had any head injuries.
I do still experience some serious sharp head pains on occasion and the vision issues do reoccur once in awhile for a short few minutes of time but not enough to keep me from working or functioning on a daily basis.
No matter how or why the objects and impressions are in my brain, it sort of makes me angry wondering how they got there, especially without me knowing about it.
I simply have no answers except for a confirmation of foreign objects being in my brain.
I forgot, I did send an email to the guy named David Jacobs and sent him a couple of the scans. He seemed very interested and wanted me to send the entire set of scans. I assumed he was a Dr from what I read about him and wanted to know if he knew someone experienced in the brain before I sent them to him.
I had the impression his interest was more of recognition than simply interest and discovery and didn't want to have that type of exposure. So our correspondence ended.
Hello all,
I'm new to this site and have an interesting situation I've been dealing with for some time now.
I had a brain scan done in which the Doctor had found several foreign objects within the tissue of the brain. He found it to be extremely impossible and exciting for such objects to be found in my brain, but there they were.
I have never followed up with more test to get a better understanding of the makeup or reasons for these objects and impressions.
The depth interval between each scan could have missed an object and yet exposed a tissue compression near the object, causing the impressions.
In either case, it was confirmed foreign objects are in my brain and possibly more where the impressions are located.
I would like to share a few of these scans with you all and possibly get some good feedback.
I placed 9 snapshot photos of the scans. Simply click on the thumbnails to enlarge the photo to view the objects and/or impressions.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d141/ImplantScans/
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Mexicans?
I forgot, I did send an email to the guy named David Jacobs and sent him a couple of the scans. He seemed very interested and wanted me to send the entire set of scans. I assumed he was a Dr from what I read about him and wanted to know if he knew someone experienced in the brain before I sent them to him.
I had the impression his interest was more of recognition than simply interest and discovery and didn't want to have that type of exposure. So our correspondence ended.
Hi Cuda, i just want to say, i TRUST you
you ..may get some 'insinuations' here from some resident pathological skeptics, but thres others who will LISTEN to you. and wonder WITH you
i personally have had a very powerful 'OBE' experience where i haveinteracted with them. i didn't have to have regression to remember. i rememberd all wy through
but your experience soundsvery familar wit one abduction i've mnentioned several times in pseudoforums...briefly a family, gran mum and her two young boys--bout 10-11
they had been to their loca restaurant, leve. and are looking at the outlineof the rooftops against the evening sky
they all notice a very very bight oval object/UFO which they all say a it got neaerer they felt ths intense love, and pne of theboys said ;it was like it could land and you would just go off with it and not care' owrds to that effect
THEN whooosh, there is missing time. ittakes an hour longer to get home tan usual
they were all--showing it espcially Gran, and mum. mum evewntually has hypnotherapy and she remmbers them all being abucted and how she had been terribly worried for her sons. you can see her really distressed rememebering tis
but before they were sodistressed because they KNEW some unbelievable tng had happened but wewre in a likealimbo of not being able to place it
this docu really moved me
haha freeeaky fruedian slip, not 'with them as in the 'usualy' 'Greys'' i experinced interacting with two humaoids and two mythical looking characterslooking like Satyrs who previous had been wearing human-looking real life 'masks' of people close to me)!
Duendy,
Yes, I have read a few stories about incidents just like what you spoke of and also of what I experienced.
I never have felt that anything could simply happen to me and me not remember at least something about it though.
I can't really say I truly feel that it was an alien craft I saw nor can I say I truly feel the objects are alien in origin.
All I know, is the origins of the objects is unknown and that seems to be true in the most part about the proof of aliens.
Without having the financial ability to pursue this quest of investigating the objects, which would entail more scans etc... I can only continue searching the net in the hopes of eventually finding a medical individual with knowledge in the brain field to view the photos I uploaded to verify the objects as foreign and catch his/her attention to further investigate my situation, and then finding someone else to pay for the scans.
This is a lot to ask, and I may never find such a person in any news type groups or even places like this forum. I was hoping when I found sciforums, that possibly such a Doctor might hang out in a place like this (maybe in a different group of this forum even).
Mr Anonymous 03-03-06, 07:52 PM Thanks for your input and I'll explain further.
Hello Cuda, firstly thank you for taking the time to elaborate further regarding your experience and let me be the first to say, I wholly appreciate your reluctance to be considered or in anyway branded as being just another "alien nut case" as you put it - I presume this to be the reason you make no mention in your initial statements, nor subsequently to Giambattista, regarding having witnessed any form of unusual or else otherwise unidentified aerial objects as indicated by the phrase:
I have never seen any sort of aliens at all
Correct?
Anyway, with regards to the rest:
I don't recall any other times in my life of having memory loss, and have never had any head injuries.
Now I may be being particularly dense here, so please, do forgive me in advance for asking this, but you do very clearly state you became aware of:
what looked like a partial scar extending out from under my hair line, next to my temple. I moved the hair back and saw the rest of the circle scar tissue.
Now, you are indeed very clear as to your impressions of what this scar looks like and where it's located - I'm not at all questioning your eyesight here, or your ability to recognise a scar when you see one. However, you do very clearly relay that prior to this discovery you were actively engaged in driving a vehicle and some several hours later found yourself still driving the same vehicle yet having absolutely no memory of what you were doing in the intervening time - and you are very clear on this, so in your stating:
I don't recall any other times in my life of having memory loss, and have never had any head injuries.
How exactly can you be sure of that? You describe a scar being present on the side of your head - patently, you must have endured a head injury in order to present a scar.
You drove a car for something over, what... 8 hours? And have no memory of actually driving - clearly you have experienced memory loss, but memory loss by its very definition does somewhat dictate something of an absence in ones capacity to recollect - If you yourself can accept that you drove a car for several hours with no recollection of what transpired at all, would it be in anyway inconstant to consider that one can overlook the presence of a relatively small partially hidden scar?
I'd like to take you back a little bit to your account of your UFO chase the previous day that you and your wife witnessed, and I'd like you to very seriously try and recollect very carefully what transpired. As you state:
The reason I began towards this type of questioning is because the day before my missing time, my wife and I encountered a shinny looking ball in the sky about a mile from where we were driving. I began chasing after it because we wanted to see what it was, and thinking it might be a silver air balloon. It was very bright and almost like looking into a bright strong light. We chased after it for several miles down a farm road in the corn fields before it just vanished.
Sorry for the repetition here, but I've highlighted the relevant terms. You describe your pursuit of this object as a chase, I gather to relay you were at this point travelling at some degree of speed, correct? You indicate following the object onto a farm road, I gather unpaved? Again, correct?
I should imagine that during the course of this pursuit you were both, you and your wife, excited? Incredulous? Eager to ascertain the nature of what it was you were pursuing. You were driving, you had one eye on the road and one eye on the object, I presume you weren't driving a convertible. At times during the pursuit you would have had to lean forward and crane your neck up to make sure the object was still ahead of you and to the side at others, again still looking up - you're driving at speed over an unpaved road.
At any point do you recollect at all banging the side of your head at all, possibly only very mildly at the time, your main focus would have course been on driving and pursuing the object you were chasing, so indeed a little knock to the side of the head against the inside of the car on the drivers side not going to impinge too much. Perhaps feeling tired, perhaps a headache later after once back home and the thrill of the chase had worn off, but at the time hardly noticeable at all.
Possible, do you think? You describe the scar you subsequently discovered as being circular. Would there have been any fittings at all on the inside of the car that would at all have corresponded to the size and shape of the scar you describe - these are issues you need to be quite clear on here because, any serious investigator worth their salt is going to want to investigate these aspects of your experience and, as you yourself relay, in not wanting to be taken as just a regular "alien nut" - Since this chase incident did infact take place the day before your first conscious recollection of memory loss having occurred - that you present a scar clearly demonstrating head trauma and that the day before you clearly recollect and describe driving at some speed along a lowly maintained road surface - clearly these particular set of circumstances could infact actually have been the cause of the head trauma you later first noticed only after experiencing an incident of memory loss - it's self, a highly strong indicator of concussion.
So, in considering for yourself the nature of your experience, its possibly quite important to view all the aspects of what you do recall happening over the course of that, turns out, 48 hour period relevant to your experience specifically of memory loss.
Now - your CT Scans. I'm surprised, frankly appalled that you relay the specialist who took your scans didn't elaborate further on the material aspects of the items in question. Presumably the fellow involved was more interested in ascertaining that an internal bleed was indeed not the cause of the pressure causing impairment to your vision than elaborating further on the nature of the fragments displayed in your scans.
Basically, when bone fractures the body immediately responds by targeting the fractured bone and forcing it to calcify at an accelerated rate - it's a targeted response designed to affect only area's of bone which have been damaged, not affect undamaged bone at all otherwise you'd get all sorts of problems cropping up all over your body everytime you broke something.
Bone is very tensile, but like Pyrex, once it breaks it doesn't only snap it shatters producing tiny, microscopic splinters of bone that get dispersed quite some way around the area of the sight of injury - these fragments, exactly like the main part of the bone, respond to the body's auto repair system.
Now most bones in the body are surrounded by muscle tissue, quite densely wrapped around the entire length of the bone on both sides and thus, consequently, micro fragments dispersed by the bone breaking calcify but are physically confined within proximity of the bone itself so any tiny bone nodules that form rapidly become incorporated back into the surface stricture of the damaged site - with hollow cavity fractures however, head trauma specifically, micro fragments produced by blunt trauma get dispersed far further on the inside of the wound simply because the skull is basically a hollow cavity.
Granulation of these fragments via the body's auto repair system therefore both can and in fact does produce tiny little "micro-bones" as the material being repaired tries to refashion itself back into the exact form of bone tissue it originally was part of. Most times these themselves will re-adhere themselves to the inside of the skull as irregular, sometimes regular, smoothish nodules of bone - other times however they don't and these can indeed cause problems exactly as you relay.
Now, I am deeply surprised your specialist didn't explain this to you, however since you relay the appearance of a scar which grew over the course of a number of weeks, what you're describing here with:
As for the scar area, it first was about the size of a dime and expanded larger over the next week to about the size of a quarter, and then it began to fade away over the next week. About two weeks of the visual scar before it was gone.
At the beginning I thought maybe I somehow had a tissue eating virus because it got larger everyday. It was strange to me to watch what looked like a wound scar, growing.
Is basically a description of the over lying tissue of your skull bearing the impact mark of the trauma to the bone bellow responding as the fractured bone underneath began re-knitting and healing back together again.
In short - and I'm sorry for the length of this but this is obviously a matter which has been troubling you for some considerable number of years know ( I can tell that much just from looking at the CT Scans) - you fractured your skull at some point during the course of the day before your memory loss incident - most likely during the course of your UFO chase. Fatigue, headache, memory loss - the presence of blunt trauma injury to the head indicating scaring has already taken place - its all indicative that you cracked your head a good one and actually was walking around for a couple of weeks with a fractured skull as a consequence.
This would also have been the cause of the sensation of movement you experienced centred around the injury - your bones literally were moving, they were loose and only being held in place by the surface tissue surrounding your skull. If you'dve had an itch and given yourself a damn good scratch I perish the thought what might have happened there...
Of course, one might say - fracturing ones skull, kind of a hard thing to miss wouldn't you say and you'd often times be perfectly right. But driving a car for 8 hours and having no recollection of what you were doing whatsoever - that's a considerably harder thing to miss also.
But then again, concussion as a result of blunt head trauma is very much exactly like that. And you had the scar from a blunt trauma impact to prove it.
You don't have to take anyones word on that. You have a bunch of CT scans which speak volumes, assuming of course y'know how to read them.
Sort something out with your GP and get him or her to arrange a consultation with a specialist, if you are still experiencing pain, discomfort vision impairment still after all this time, putting a rocket under someones arse and getting a proper looking over - not the worst idea in the world. I trust your good lady wife remains in no way similarly affected despite being equally present during the course of your brief close encounter?
Perhaps, possibly, in going back over the actual events of those two days and the weeks that followed, you can possibly put your own mind at rest regarding at least one aspect of the incident and at least find a way to address your own physical condition free from any possibility of being branded an "alien nut" - as I believe, quite genuinely from what you relay, you are indeed nothing at all of the sort.
My very best wishes to the both of you and I trust you fair well.
My regards,
A ;)
Mr Anonymous,
Thank you very much for your responce.
Yes, correct, I literally have never seen any sort of alien in my entire life.
As for the missing time, to clarify more clearly. I recalled driving upon the area which I saw the object the day before and remember thinking about it- Then the next thing I remember is seeming like waking up from a sleep and realizing it was night(sunset), I was moving slowly down the road in almost the exact same location that hours earlier my last memory of thinking about the object the day before.
It sort of seemed like time must have stopped for me, but the day continued on and then I woke up or time for me began to move again. It really didn't make any sense at all and this is what made me feel as if something was really wrong.
I had filled my truck up before heading home that day and still had what looked like a full tank the next day when I headed back to work, so I knew I hadn't been driving around while experiencing this missing time.
The chase: I turned off the main county hwy and onto an old country rd, paved but most likely not for the past 20 years or so. I say farm rd because it would have been hardly traveled and nothing but farm land (cornfields) was in sight for miles.
I was initially headed north and the object was to the East. The moment I saw it, it was barely in the right view out my windshield. As I turned east it was diectly in front of me about what seemed like maybe two miles ahead and maybe 1/8 mile in the air. Yes, I began a increase my speed and trying to keep looking at it and my wife spazzed on me, telling me to watch the road and she would watch it. It began to edge toward the south a bit, towards her passenger window, and then it was gone, as she was looking at it. I kept glancing looks at it, and then I glanced back and it was gone. I remember saying where the hell did it go and she looked at me and said it was gone. We both assumed it must have went down some below the distant fields and trees.
The scar: At no time did I ever hit my head against anything, and the scar was on my right temple the next morning.
The next morning while brushing my teeth, my hair was not combed or brushed back, even though it is short, it still had a half inch of movement and was forward of my front ear part. As I brushed it back I was able to see the whole scar looking tissue, a circular scar on my temple area, it looked as if it had been a several year old scar. I actually had to pull my short hair forward to keep it sort of covered during the day, because it looked strange to me.
Never having a scar on my temple, and then bam, I have one right on my temple towards the right front of my ear, not enough of it was under the hair line to cover it or hide it.
The location of it, was in the hollow socket of the temple area where no bone is felt.
I have no skull fractures or damage to the skull bone structure at all and so the question of bone splinters or fragments doesn't apply. If I had a fracture it would have given me a relief, to explain away the objects just as you have mentioned and would have made me happy to know I had an answer to the objects.
As it is, I'm not lucky enough to have such, and so I'm lost for an explanation.
As far as headaches goes, it was some time before I ever felt any sharp pains in my head, and never had any tender or sore spots on any part of my skull.
I remember then and even at times now, when I felt the movement under my skin I would run to a mirror and look into it, move my hair to see if I could see movement under my skin, but never did see anything.
You gave some very sensible analogies and gave good reason to review the entire incident and I truly wished it applied to me, but it doesn't. Thus being the reason for my frustration of not having the slightest reason for an explanation of the objects.
The Doctor did say that it didn't appear that I've had any head trauma nor was any blood found in the brain tissue. They also ran a tube into my leg vein and put a dye into my blood stream to see if I had a busted artery going to my brain, but it was negative, no blood leaking.
It seemed as though they were very thorough in trying to figure out the reason for my vision, except to further investigate the objects.
The nurse that came back to tell the Doctor about the results of the scan and the objects found, had a "oh my god" look in her eyes when trying to tell the Doctor about the objects, and was stressing that he really does need to come see this (the scans).
It didn't go much further than that with me about the objects.
It wasn't until about a year later when I got a copy of the scans, I listened to the recording the Doctor made about the objects and he stated "this is truly a find".
Once again, thank you for a good commen sense approach to an explanation for the objects and I truly wished it applied.
Giambattista 03-04-06, 04:07 AM not true. skinwalker
what part of.....
And my suggestions are that he get some REAL medical attention and diagnosis, not this light conversation he appears to have been dealt so far!
...do you not understand?
Thank you, Gustav, for defending the truth of what I spoke. I am not the only one who sees how very partial Skinwalker's position is.
Don't forget, there was also this:
You need to see a couple different neurologists, I imagine, so they can brainstorm, if they're into that kind of thing.
Yes, I did recommend a COUPLE different neurologists.
I also did say that he should demand more answers from his doctors, and not simply put up with "We don't really know..."
Giambattista 03-04-06, 05:14 AM Giambattista,
That you would recommend the woo-woo cretins above for someone that may actually have a serious medical disorder demonstrates either your total lack of regard for human life or that you've been completely duped by their wild claims of space aliens. Certainly this is indicative of your acceptence of their space-alien hypothesis (each has openly proclaimed their belief in it) and, thus, indicative of your lack of any objectivity with the subject.
And your extreme lack of objectivity regarding what I actually said above is indicative of your unbelief in the space-alien hypothesis, and your need to make your "superiority" on the subject known at every possible point.
Classic pseudo-skeptic tactics.
Cuda, if you value your health, you will ignore the advice of the uninformed who recommend ufo nutters as a solution. Seek out the advice and consul from a neurologist -someone actually experienced with the physiology of the human brain and how to treat it.
You need to see a couple different neurologists, I imagine, so they can brainstorm, if they're into that kind of thing.
Streiber is a fiction writer;
His name is actually Strieber, not Streiber.
And yes, he does write fiction, and has enjoyed a fair amount of popularity. This implies what, exactly? That all fiction writers lie for a living, and are perpetually enveloped in their imagined fantasy worlds, rendering them incapable of ever stating facts or holding to the truth in any situation?
Hopkins is an embarassment to his colleages;
I don't care, really. Further, I sincerely doubt that Hopkins would endanger someone's life if they had a potentially serious brain injury/disorder/trauma.
Leir is a freakin' foot doctor.
Correct. But just because a doctor specializes in one area doesn't make them incompetent in another. Furthermore, I know he has, on more than one occasion, been accompanied by another doctor more appropriate and able to conduct a proper operation during these removals. Leir doesn't do all of this alone. He apparently is able to realise where his expertise is in want.
None are qualified to look at your brain scans and none are qualified to comment on what could be wrong. Indeed, there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that Leir has ever removed an object of alien design or even an object of design at all.
I appears that Cuda already contacted some of the mentioned persons. I was about 75% serious in mentioning those people. I did it mostly because if there IS a connection between these objects and some non-human intellegence, then the people I mentioned would probably be interested in it, and like I said:
But, above all, contact some people who are serious about this kind of research. You may have a truly extraordinary case on your hands, whether it's extraterrestrial or not. If you're lucky, you may at least get some funding to have the things extracted, assuming it's not too risky.
That, perhaps if the objects were anomalous enough to warrant an investigation, perhaps Cuda would find himself the recipient of some financial aid to have said objects removed, ASSUMING it's not too risky.
Giambattista acted in a very callous and reckless manner for someone who may have a very real medical condition.
I fail to see how I gave him any dangerous, callous, or reckless advice.
Beyond that, I very seriously doubt ANY of the above persons would make a diagnosis, or even attempt to look at the scans, except for possibly Leir, who undoubtedly at one time in medical training was shown some brain scans. Cuda said even the nurse recognized that something was awry after looking at the scans.
No, I'm actually quite positive (99.999%) that they would consult someone more qualified to make a pronouncement.
See your neurologist.
You need to see a couple different neurologists, I imagine, so they can brainstorm, if they're into that kind of thing.
Ask questions. Raise your concerns.
...but if you're for real, then please, for yourself and many others, demand some more concrete answers, at the very least.
Ignore the thoughtless and woo-woo advice of Giambattista. He has finally revealed his true nature on this board.
Thoughtless? You, dear Skinwalker, are the thoughtless one, I am more than happy to state! :)
Witness:
You may have a truly extraordinary case on your hands, whether it's extraterrestrial or not.
Well, that is quite unnerving, if true.
Do you have any idea how these supposedly foreign objects got there?
Notice how careful and tentative I am with the implication that it could be something to do with ETs. Where did I state that these truly ARE implants put there by aliens? I am more than aware that it often takes several doctors to get a correct diagnosis, thus, this statement of mine, AGAIN:
You need to see a couple different neurologists, I imagine, so they can brainstorm, if they're into that kind of thing.
The very name of this thread "Brain Implants" implies that they are PURPOSELY put there. After all, what IS an implant but an intentionally inserted object?
I was NOT the person who titled this thread, in case you have missed that fact. The fact that several doctors could not explain the objects, that they were considered foreign in nature, the mysterious circumstances under which his problems started, and the sighting of the silver object, are all obvious factors that have led Cuda to wonder if these things are not naturally occuring, and that led him to consider that they may be implants, hence the name "Brain Implants" for this particular discussion.
He has finally revealed his true nature on this board.
Skinwalker has been consistently revealing his nature on this board as a true pseudo-skeptical dismisser and naysayer, but it appears he may have stooped to an all new low. Pay close attention to the very one-sided and biased treatment of my words and my position.
I believe I have adequately proven his statements about me to be quite misleading.
Giambattista 03-04-06, 05:36 AM That should have been the only recommendation. Charlatans and witchdoctors are unnecessary and a waste of precious time. My criticism stands. I retract none of it. Giambattista acted in a very callous and reckless manner for someone who may have a very real medical condition.
WONDERFUL!
PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS, DON'T RETRACT YOUR VERY FLAWED CRITICISMS!
It will only further demonstrate how capable you are of making spurious statements heavily infused with bias, and your ability to take a few quotes and construct a lemon tree from an apple.
Giambattista 03-04-06, 06:39 AM Actually Giambattista, if you read the rough outline of chronology as stated Cuba's account begins actually with an instance of memory loss - subsequent to that the discovery of a hitherto unnoticed scar.
Not a wound. Scar tissue.
Pretty much what I said, yes. You are saying that because it was a SCAR, supposedly, that this implies an injury from some time ago, correct?
Well, actually, Mr. Anonymous, if you read the outline in a little more detail, you see that the supposed "scar" faded away shortly thereafter:
The next morning I had what looked like a scar next to my temple about the size of a quarter, it faded away over the next two weeks. I had felt movement under my skin and maybe skull next to my right ear.
The movement would last about for 5 to 10 seconds and then stop. This would happen about 20 times a day and lasted for several years.
He implies that it was never noticed prior to that time, and also it is very possible he is confusing "scar" with "scab". Why a longstanding scar would only become apparent the day after such an inexplicable loss of time, only to disappear two weeks after being noticed is a little peculiar. That might suggest that it wasn't really a scar, but that he called it that simply because it appeared to be one. APPEARED.
(edit: a scar, in general, is a mark that reveals where an injury has taken place, and lasts for an indefinite period of time AFTER the injury has healed and scabs have disappeared. Scars often last quite awhile and may be permanent. That is roughly the definition of "scar" that I was going by, to clarify matters.)
These so called Implants are actually the consequence of a previous head trauma.
A bold statement that appears to be fact. I am curious to know why you would state so definitively that this is the result of an injury.
Cuda's description of the event, the sudden appearance of the "scar", the object(s), and the "conclusions" of more than one doctor, does not in any way indicate that this so-called implant is the consequence of a previous head trauma.
The Doctor did say that it didn't appear that I've had any head trauma nor was any blood found in the brain tissue.
(edit: this information from Cuda was given AFTER your statement "These so called Implants are actually the consequence of a previous head trauma." So you didn't have that to rely upon at the time.
This does not change, however, the fact that this statement is supposition on your part, and receives little confirmation or support from the facts Cuda had revealed at that point. Further information from Cuda has decreased the likelihood of your statement even more. I'm just stating the facts as he has given them. You are assuming that the foreign objects were caused by an injury of sorts, namely, bumping his head, yet this assumption is stated as a fact, even though the information tends to discount that.)
If, after being reviewed by several doctors, the actual identification of the objects and how they got there is inconclusive, I fail to see how you would declare the "implants" to be the result of a head trauma, when his doctor didn't say that there had been any in the first place, and furthermore seemed to rule it out as a possible cause. You, by all appearances, are making conclusions that even the doctors who examined him didn't make. Puzzling.
Frankly Giambattista I have no idea what it is you have been "considering" here, but it isn't at all anything Cuba himself has actually said and it doesn't frankly seem actually very much at all full, whatever it was.
Frankly, Mr. Anonymous, I don't know exactly what this was about, other than perhaps a little common sense, quite a bit of nitpicking, and a very unusually confident statement of an OPINION as a FACT.
I was "actually very much" fully considering everything he had said, and was only going by what he had told me. I neither declared the mysterious objects to be implants, nor, unlike YOU, did I declare them to be the result of an injury at some forgotten point in his past.
The very fact that the "scar" becomes apparent the next day (not at any time before), that it fades away relatively quickly (indicating it may not be any kind of scar in the normal sense), and the fact that his psychological and neurological disturbances all begin AFTER that point, STRONGLY indicates that something related to his missing time is somehow responsible for the "scar" and the mystery objects.
That does not rule out the possibility that the injury occured AT the onset of the missing time. However, the inability of the doctors to reach any substantial conclusions as to the manner of the objects and their origins, coupled with the fact that one of them stated that for all practical purposes, it was not the result of any observable trauma, makes the explanation of a bump on the head unlikely. Not impossible, but unlikely.
Several doctors all looked at my scans, and the one doctor said I had no serious worry of dying because no blood was leaking.
I was merely going by the facts the Cuda had given. I was not at all making any conclusions as to what had happened, or that the objects were "alien implants". Cuda was the one who suggested that they might be of an artificial nature.
Despite my reasonable assessment of the facts as he relayed them, and my hesitance to rush to judgement regarding them, you seem to have already reached a conclusion that the whole incident was a result of an injury, despite the inability of several medical doctors to arrive at that same destination.
Try paying attention.
Likewise, I think that is some sound advice that you could take to heart, as well.
Giambattista 03-04-06, 07:32 AM Dear Cuda,
I want to thank you for filling out the blank spots with some details. In fact, I want to thank you for taking the time to share your story with us. I am assuming you are for real and not making things up, though it's always a real possibility.
Please, if you by chance read my recent posts, and you by chance see any faulty assumptions or statements on my part regarding what you have described, do feel welcome to correct me.
I feel I have been very fair and cautious while addressing your little problem. I also note that I was the first person to address you, period.
It seems that at least one person decided to attack me and quite inaccurately portrayed my position. I personally feel he was completely out of line in his actions. I do not feel any of my advice to you was unsound, and I hope you didn't find me as "callous and reckless" as that person insinuated.
As I stated before, if this is true as you say it is, it IS quite unnerving. I had a genuine concern for your well-being, and in no way was I recommending "witchdoctors" as a cure.
I mentioned those people, almost in a humorous way, because I was having trouble believing that it might be true, so in a way I wasn't being totally serious. However, these people ARE very interested in the phenomenon of alien abduction, and would obviously be interested in your case since it appears that to this point, your doctors have not come up with anything concrete.
I also thought that maybe they would aid you in some way towards getting to the bottom of the mystery, and that would include perhaps some assistance in getting a second opinion from a doctor.
I can understand your nervousness at accepting that the objects might be put there by someone or something for some unknown purpose. The prospect makes me nervous, too!
A question: what did your doctors think of the missing time and the UFO that you saw, assuming you told them? Just curious.
Another question: why did you choose Sciforums as a place to tell your story and show your pictures?
I have other questions that I would like to ask, but I will refrain for now!
Keep in touch
Giambattista 03-04-06, 07:56 AM B R A V O Giambatttista
Grazie ;)
Giambattista 03-04-06, 07:57 AM haha freeeaky fruedian slip, not 'with them as in the 'usualy' 'Greys'' i experinced interacting with two humaoids and two mythical looking characterslooking like Satyrs who previous had been wearing human-looking real life 'masks' of people close to me)!
Were you eating mushrooms of a different kind at the time? :bugeye:
Hello Giambattista,
Actually I felt as though you offered several options to further my quest for answers and did not in the least try to pursued me towards an irresponcible or reckless direction, and I thank you for the input.
As for your questions:
1. I never memtioned anything about missing time or the strange object to the Doctors.
2. I had been doing searches on the net for science news groups, and looking around them to get a feel if it might be a good place to get answers. I was also trying to find discussions dealing with the brain in different groups to see if my situation would be welcomed if mentioned.
It has actually been very difficult for me to find much in the way of medical investigative interest.
My main objective is to hopefully find a link up with a medical person with knowledge of the brain to view my uploaded scans to verify them, and then proceed further by sending him/her the CD with all the scans on it that is within a medical program along with a recorded message from the viewing Doctor.
I really don't want to send it too an alien/ufo buff unless that person is willing to first, contact a qualified medical brain person to simply click the uploaded site of the 9 photos and view them. If they did this, they would clearly see the objects and impressions and know they shouldn't be there. I would then want to send my CD of scans directly to them for further investigating and analyzing.
I had been told before that most the ufo buffs would most likely be very slow in trying to help because there is a recognition process they would go through in order to have the exclusive right to the photos for books, interviews etc... (money). I did get this very impression after contacting a couple ufo buffs, and thus the reason I had never sent my scans to them.
I simply want medical review (answers) and not a circus.
Giambattista 03-04-06, 09:59 AM Hello Giambattista,
Actually I felt as though you offered several options to further my quest for answers and did not in the least try to pursued me towards an irresponcible or reckless direction, and I thank you for the input.
Well, straight from the proverbial horse's mouth! Thank you for clearing that up!
I had been told before that most the ufo buffs would most likely be very slow in trying to help because there is a recognition process they would go through in order to have the exclusive right to the photos for books, interviews etc... (money). I did get this very impression after contacting a couple ufo buffs, and thus the reason I had never sent my scans to them.
I simply want medical review (answers) and not a circus.
Completely understandable.
Gosh, you'd think it would be enough for someone to say something like "I was the FIRST person to actually give him and his case the time of day, etc, etc..." without wanting to obtain a "patent"!
I just figured, that if another opinion confirmed that it was indeed a foreign object and not natural, that it would prove very important to the study of the abduction phenomenon, since you had both the missing time, and the sighting of an unusual silvery object.
Question: can you tell me a little more about the object you saw? Size, flight characteristics, etc. In what manner did it disappear, exactly? Instantly, in front of your eyes? Or did it go out of view or pass behind something, and you just didn't see it again?
Question: how many doctors, if you recall, examined you? What were their credentials. General practitioners, or were there brain specialists as well?
Finally, just for my own curiousity, where about do you live in Nebraska, or DID you live, at the time of the incident? I'm pretty familiar with Nebraska, as I have relatives who live there. Just a general description of the area, like major towns/cities within 50 miles or so. Near Grand Island? Valentine? Omaha? Scottsbluff? Eastern? Central? Southwestern?
Only if you feel comfortable giving that information, though! ;)
Later
Well, I felt the same way about them. I assumed they would simply want to help too further their own agenda for proof of alien intervention. They do, but it seems it is a dog eat dog world in the ufo field, for having exclusive proof for financial gain.
If my situation falls into the realm of the ufo field, then I would want all the info free to all with no profits to anyone. I'm not about to be lead around with a collar and leash, like a dog for show and tell sessions.
Size: It seemed like if I got close to it, it would have been about the size bus, but round. It moved slowly at first and then it seemed to move fast, like someone yanked on it and it maybe moved a 1/4 mile in the air to a different spot.
I didn't see it disappear, I turned my head to look at the road and then glanced back and it was gone. My wife said it just went poof, and was gone. We both assumed it went below or behind the trees. We didn't pursue it any further because no other roads gave us access through the cornfields to continue the chase.
If I recall, there are three names on the file in the medical program on the CD. I only spoke with one Doctor. In the recording as the one Doctor is recording his findings, another Doctor is in the background commenting to him.
I lived in Lincoln NE, at the time. I was working around the Freemont NE area.
Giambattista 03-04-06, 12:38 PM Well, I felt the same way about them. I assumed they would simply want to help too further their own agenda for proof of alien intervention. They do, but it seems it is a dog eat dog world in the ufo field, for having exclusive proof for financial gain.
If my situation falls into the realm of the ufo field, then I would want all the info free to all with no profits to anyone. I'm not about to be lead around with a collar and leash, like a dog for show and tell sessions.
Sickening, isn't it? I feel the same way about freedom of information regarding something so spectacular. Though, I don't see how anyone would be in complete control of your story. I think most probably YOU would have to give THEM the rights, because it's your story, after all.
Perhaps NIDS could be of service? The National Institute for Discovery Science is a foundation that will hire scientists to investigate paranormal phenomena. They also don't get as much sensationalistic coverage as some of the other researchers do, as far as I'm aware.
If your "implants" can be truly proven to be foreign objects, as several doctors have already concluded to the best of their abilities, I think there may be a good chance they would be willing to examine your case.
No matter what, if you do decide on a researcher to look into this, I would definitely be up front with them about how you want them to conduct themselves, especially when it comes to publicity or giving out your name.
I sincerely believe that a reputable researcher would be willing to give you a certain degree of anonymity if you insisted on it.
Just a thought I had.
If I felt that hypnotic regression was more reliable, I MIGHT suggest undertaking it, to see if anything can be recalled. If you ever thought about that, you would definitely want to see someone who does not deal with the subject of alien abduction. However, at this time, I would not recommend such a thing.
Hypnosis is controversial, to say the least, especially in the context of memory.
I lived in Lincoln NE, at the time. I was working around the Freemont NE area.
Cool. I have grandparents that live almost smack dab in the middle of the state. Kind of eerie out there. I always expected to see a UFO, but only a few things have ever hinted at being mysterious. Not enough for me to make any definitive conclusions.
Were you eating mushrooms of a different kind at the time? :bugeye:
NO, i had simply gone to bed at night.
CUda.....Have you hard of a surgeon in the States that purports to have a collection of implants from people who claim t have been abducted...?
Mr Anonymous 03-04-06, 04:47 PM Likewise, I think that is some sound advice that you could take to heart, as well.
Actually, I think you'll find that both now as with the first time around, I really didn't ask you for your opinion in the first place, end of story.
Giambattista 03-04-06, 06:05 PM Actually, I think you'll find that both now as with the first time around, I really didn't ask you for your opinion in the first place, end of story.
Which time was the first, might I ask?
Frankly Giambattista I have no idea what it is you have been "considering" here
Like I already said, I was doing nothing more than going by what he said.
-He indicates that the scar only becomes apparent the next day.
-No prior headaches or lapses of memory, especially not for hours at a time.
-The doctor(s) considered them foreign objects, as he indicated.
I had a brain scan done in which the Doctor had found several foreign objects within the tissue of the brain. He found it to be extremely impossible and exciting for such objects to be found in my brain, but there they were.
In either case, it was confirmed foreign objects are in my brain and possibly more where the impressions are located.
The details he has released today have only reinforced these notions.
I don't quite understand your attitude, nor the rude tone you seem to have adopted. All I can say is that it is quite typical of many of the persons that frequent sciforums.
Duendy,
Yes, I have. A Derrel Sims and Roger Leir. I guess they were a team for awhile and then seperated over a dispute. I have been in contact with Derrel Sims, but have not sent him my scans unless or until he has a brain Doctor at his disposal or rather on his team. Derrel seems to be a real sincere individual and also has some real interest in my scans. He has saw the uploaded scans, but I still will not send the entire CD until he or someone else has a medical person to view my scans.
I'm just not really into being connected to the ufo exposure thing (regardless of any opinions I may have on the subject), unless if I am able to have professional opinions, reviews and further tests, first, to verify the objects, to prove they are foreign bodies, to prove the impossibility the objects entered my brain through any conventional or explainable means, and that the objects posses any forms of matter not consistent with the human body i.e. bone fragments etc...
It may seem that I am asking a lot, but then again, I'm the one with these unexplainable objects in my brain. It will most likely end up as I have assumed several times, "I will end up dieing before I ever get any answers".
This is why I have thought about putting in my wil,l a request that my brain be given to a science lab to examine along with the CD of my scans.
Until then, I will just keep on trying to find a medical brain Doctor with connections to further investigate my situation.
Mr Anonymous 03-04-06, 06:21 PM You gave some very sensible analogies and gave good reason to review the entire incident and I truly wished it applied to me, but it doesn't. Thus being the reason for my frustration of not having the slightest reason for an explanation of the objects.
Well, firstly once again, thank you for your great patience with dealing with me here - I realise entirely how utterly frustrating it must be having endured everything you have to be faced with the prospect of having fool questions put to you endlessly from people who weren't even present and your restraint in giving concise answers only, well that's nothing short of admirable.
I trust therefore you will be able to view the following response with no less patience and equal forgiveness - I merely wish to ensure that in reviewing your account of your experiences I review as much as humanly possible your experiences as they happened to you and not merely some impression formed through any misunderstanding on my part brought about by my reading incorrectly.
There's a point, despite your reiterating, I really must confess I'm not entirely getting here and it's this:
The Doctor did say that it didn't appear that I've had any head trauma...
Nevertheless you remain explicitly clear regarding the scar you discovered and the subsequent behaviour you describe associated with which remains perfectly consistent with head trauma.
One can't possibly have a scar and no trauma - a scar is trauma. If it occurs on the head, the appropriate term remains head trauma. There simply remains no other description for that, medically speaking.
Do you follow point here?
I'm not in the slightest suggesting any error or misrepresentation on your part - but what I am suggesting very strongly that the answers you've to date received regarding this matter, medically speaking, simply don't add up.
Irrespective of the actual nature and/origins of the materials the CT scans you provide indicate as being present - be they either the longterm consequence of a skull fracture or indeed placed there surgically by some undisclosed means - in both instances an entry point must exist and traces of that should remain present.
The problem with CT scans of this nature is that basically they're designed to look more at the underlying soft tissue in more detail, unlike a cranial x-ray which focuses more on solids and solid density.
Now, given your initial reluctance to disclose, even here in a perfectly anonymous environment, the incident regarding the UFO chase - I'm willing to bet the occurrences of the previous day, and possibly even the incident regarding your period of lost time the following, never actually played any part in your disclosures to the specialist whom handled your examination -
Am I at all correct in this?
If so, consequently, in consultation all the doctor you saw had to go on was both your medical records as they stand and what you told him/her regarding your condition. The evening of your return from your "lost afternoon" and the morning after upon discovery of the scar, you make no mention of visiting an ER department despite, I've no doubt here, suggestions from your wife that you do so, therefore I'm willing to bet very little if anything at all regarding the experience as a whole as you relay it here has ever been presented completely for proper medical review.
I can quite understand your reasons for perhaps being reluctant to discuss these events as you describe here face to face with a medical professional - however, with a case history that presents no previous instance of head trauma or possible situation in which such may have in fact have been occasioned, all a doctor has to go on is what the paper work says, what you tell him and what he can see with his eyes - taking into account your age and general condition a soft tissue investigation would prove the most obvious first step course of action take with regards to medical examination and if you've told the doctor you've never had a head wound, they're not going to go looking for one.
But you did. The scar. That presents no other possible description other than head trauma.
Now rather than go round in circles regarding this, can I please be permitted to make a very serious suggestion and it is this - go to an ER.
The reason I state this is for two very pertinent reasons and they are these: the objects in your skull aren't in the slightest the problem you very seriously actually have - its the neurological effect they're having on the tissue they're coming into contact with.
That remains your first and only real priority to attend to.
If you continue to walk around with this objects in your skull thinking them exclusively as being Implants - you will in effect put off indefinitely actively getting the proper medical supervision you patently need dealing with blinding and unexpected head aches and instances of sever vision impairment. You'll rationalise, indefinitely, concerning what possible UFO explanation might adequately address these things origins whilst at the same time doing absolutely nothing whatsoever to get the symptoms their presence is causing you looked at and looked at fully.
I understand implicitly your reluctance to address your experiences directly with a medical professional - really, that goes without saying. However, you can very simply actually do this without actually coming over as sounding like an "alien nut" by making one, count it, one simple adjustment to the way you account for what you actually did in real life and what you actually experienced happening to you -
Instead of being out chasing a UFO that day, you are a chap with a rabid fascination for aircraft and the day you and your wife were out driving in the truck and, y'swear to God, what should have flown right over the hood of your truck was a Mustang or a P27 - something iconoclastic and antique.
If you're dealing with a male resident, they'll take it without batting an eyelid and if its a woman, she'll just isn't going to give a c'hoot, y'follow my drift here? ;)
Anyone presenting your symptoms of head pain and vision impairment is perfectly entitled to walk through the doors of any ER in the County and in telling you story - all of it, including the chase, the time loss, the scar, the whole works (including the previous medical work up and scans) - no resident is going to let you back out those same doors without arranging a series of cranial x-rays and an appointment to see a specialist without you signing a special form exempting the hospital from the subsequent problems resulting from you turning down treatment.
If it is your intention to discover more regarding the objects in your skull, this is your only practical course of action - and its beneficial more importantly because it leads to the possibility of actual treatment - which hanging around UFO discussion boards, frankly, is never in a million years going to get you.
So, pick an aircraft of your choice as the thing you chased that day and get down to the ER and tell your story - all of it and in this manner, ultimately, you will get answers. Not questions which can't be answered, but answers.
Anything less just smacks of someone wanting to be the centre of an apparently insoluble mystery, and I believe in your sincerity that you remain no such sort - so the ER route remains your best and only possible course of action.
Please, do do this.
Once again I trust you fair well and find some form of settlement in your own mind regarding your experience from actively doing something to address the actual problem you have - not the "implants" themselves, but the effects their presence is causing.
That should be your first priority, not the other way around.
A.
Mr Anonymous 03-04-06, 06:26 PM Which time was the first, might I ask?
>...sigh!<.... You previously addressed it, the second time was you presuming I give a shit regarding you addressing anything at all. Case closed.
Mr Anonymous,
Before I address your questions, let me say WOW, what a wakeup call and thanks.
Scar visual and trauma: The visual of the scar was just that, it looked just like what an actual scar looks like except it faded away. I know, it just doesn't seem possible. Again, there was no actual skull trauma, I didn't bump my skull portion at all and the scar visual was located on the soft area of the temple where no underlying bone is present. This simply eliminates any possibility of any bone contact. The scar visual area had no tenderness to it at all, just simply what looked like a several year old scar, no scab was ever present. As I said before, I sort of thought it might have been a tissue eating type of virus, circular in design.
It drove me nuts trying to figure out how the heck it got there and why within two weeks it was gone, completely gone. It just doesn't make any sense at all.
All I can say was, it wasn't a scar, but it sure looked like a regular scar to myself and my wife.
The Hospital visit: The brain scan was done several years after the incident because the vision problems and the sharp pains in my head actually began to cause me to take days off from work because I couldn't see very well and the frequency between the visual attacks began to increase to where it was happening off and on many times throughout the day. It would happen when I was driving even, and I would quickly pull over before my vision distortion caused me to wreck.
My wife took me to a Doctor, basically a couple of months after the missing time event because of a mental disassociation with reality, (blanking out and sitting for hours looking off into space, like at the wall).
You are correct about my disclosure of the incident. Though it was several years after the incident when I had the scans done, I never mentioned anything about the scar thing or the flying object, simply because it was several earlier and it would have made me seem like I nut because it would have had no bearing on my current situation except to say that the vision problems I was having had been occurring on occasion over the past several years.
All I mentioned to them was, it started happening maybe a month or so earlier. Only because it became more frequent about a month or so earlier.
They did of course ask if I had had any head trauma, car accidents etc... in the past month or so and I said not that I can recall. I actually wanted them to do everything possible to figure out what was going on with me.
Needless to say, yes, they did do x-rays on my neck and head, along with the other test I mentioned before.
X-rays, ink into my veins with a scan on a monitor, and then a CT scan in the big tube.
Results: No head trauma, no blood leaking into the brain. Explanation given was, I simply have some unknown pressure on my brain causing a cord or something (I don't remember exactly) from my eyes to the back of my skull to have pressure on it causing my visual distortion.
The entire examination just simply came to an end with, " Well you're not going to die and that was their main concern".
I thought it sort of strange to have a confirmation of objects being in my brain without any further comments to me about taking more test to figure out what these objects were.
The only comment about further investigating the objects I found, was on the Doctors recording in the scan program on the CD I have. I was sort of pissed after hearing it and wondering why they didn't request more test on me during my examination. What could I do, I didn't even get the Scans CD until well over a year after the scans were done.
I felt and still feel as if they realized the objects are truly foreign, realized there was no explanation for their entry to the locations in my brain and no head trauma giving any explanable reasons for entry. In other words, If you were a brain/head Doctor and found objects in someones brain, in locations impossible to be located without some sort of signs of surgery or head impact or so on and so forth, what would you do?
Send the guy home, or announce you have just discovered solid foreign objects in the brain of a patient that currently exceeds any known explanation known to current technology or even any explanation resulting from any head trauma etc?
I have asked myself many times, why the hell did they not continue with another examination to answer the question of what they were, even though they couldn't figure out how they got there.
A few strange thing also happened when I went to the hospital to get a copy of the scans.
I called the hospital before going there to let them know I wanted copies of my scans. The lady in records I think it was, told me to give her a couple hours before coming there, and she would have time to make a copy for me.
About three hours later, I called again and said I was on my way to get the scans, she said she forgot to copy them but would do it right now and they would be ready when I got there.
Ok, I got there, went to the records office and she was out, a nurse said she should be right back and within minutes she was back. I told her who I was and she said, oh yes, I have them right here as she was opening her desk drawer. She looked in her drawer and they were not there, she said that's funny, I put them right here not more than 10 minutes ago. She started asking everyone in the office who was in her desk and that someone removed a CD she had prepared for me. After several minutes of her asking everyone and seeming to get pissed, she said she would simply make another copy. She went to a big computer monitor setup in the back corner of the office and tried to access my file to get another copy.
She couldn't get access, the file was locked from what she said, and now she was pissed. Two other ladies tried to access my file and couldn't either and then this Doctor lady was walking by and the first lady I was getting my scans from stopped her asked her if she would try to pull up my file. The Doctor didn't understand what the problem was I guess, anyway she tried to pull my file and couldn't and then she tried again, after typing some keys for access I guess, and then she was able to pull my file up. The lady told her thanks to her friend it seemed (the Doctor lady), and then copied the program with my scans in it and handed it to me and apologized for the confusion. All the ladies were talking with each other as I was leaving and looking back at them.
It gave me a feeling that someone didn't want me to have a copy of my own scans. I sort of felt like I had stolen something I shouldn't have and began to walk faster out of the hospital before someone stopped me and took my scans back. It seems sort of funny now, sort of like a spy movie and I'm laughing right now just thinking back to that day.
As for your recommendation, this is the WOW part. Why didn't I think of doing just that! I'm simply not a person that likes to see a Doctor no matter what, unless it is the last possible resort.
I suppose I could say I'm having the visual problems more frequent than am actually having. The biggest thing is the expence, I have no insurance to cover the cost and am still trying to pay for my resent heart attack.
I think I will give another month or so of a bit more aggressively searching the net for a Doctor in the brain field that may have interest in my situation and if no luck as usual, I just may do as you have mentioned.
Thank you very much for this common sense approach that has been right in front of me all the time.
I don't know why I even contenplated having to tell an ER the truth about my situation and looking like a nut.
Sorry for tattling on and sorry for not making it clear that several years had gone by after the missing time before I had my scans done.
Giambattista 03-04-06, 09:38 PM >...sigh!<.... You previously addressed it, the second time was you presuming I give a shit regarding you addressing anything at all. Case closed.
Zounds! From 0 to complete asshole, in no time flat!
Amazing. Simply amazing!
Mr Anonymous 03-04-06, 10:08 PM Cuda:
:) ... Please, I assure you, you're not prattling in the slightest and I knew from looking at your scans some considerable degree of time had passed between the incident as it happened and you getting examined - what the scan are picking up around those objects is basically the formation of a lipid coating, its the bodies equivalent of what an oyster does when a piece of grit lodges in its innards, only in your case these ain't exactly pearls you've got up there in your noggin, if y'follow m'drift.
With your symptoms as they present - County will pick up the tab for head x-ray and CT follow up if you simply walk in and present the full extent of what actually happened to you - correcting only the tiny detail regarding you having been chasing a reconditioned WWII plane the day before the memory loss incident and all the rest - omitting no detail.
This will ensure you at least of getting the actual matter of your condition medically examined, which to date you've only had partially explored.
Treatment, that gets to be a matter of finance - this I implicitly understand, however with a case as unique as yours and a different pair of eyes looking at the problem - get your feet through the door first, worry about the rest later. You have the makings of a good few dozen first class papers in the offing with what you've got up there - so proceeding further, beyond merely the examination stage, might actually be a damn sight easier than you would at first think.
The trick is to make them believe it's their idea, okay? ;)
It's the proximity to the optic nerve that's causing the problem - it's getting a prognosis on this that remains your number one priority. It's not just the pain, it's your eyesight that remains at risk here. Be very clear in your mind that these things in your head really are actually foreign objects, not implants. The truth regarding that issue will, I assure you, reveal itself in good time but only with further investigation so this remains your first best option.
If people mention the term "Implants" to you, contrive to look kind of "What, y'mean like X-files kind of Implants, are y'shittin' me?!" :bugeye: and keep it that way - you're aware only your previous CT scans revealed foreign objects and that literally is all you do know - so you're not having to omit any aspects of your experiences or anything at all which has actually happened to you and its important that you don't - let the medical professional conduct the investigation and trust that in doing do, in giving complete disclosure of everything: all the incidences that have taken place (no matter how small) and all the itinerant symptoms that have presented over the years (bar that one tincture of a detail concerning a plane that was never there and perhaps a little bit of reverse psychology on your part) answers will undoubtedly present themselves.
Now I fully realise my coaching you here is probably quite thoroughly reprehensible on my part, but if it gets you within 3 feet of a house resident, I can live with it and I have every confidence you undoubtedly will too, hopefully with some respite from on ongoing situation that frankly, in anyones book, should remain intolerable to even consider let alone have to endure.
My very best to you, and I wish you success.
A
Giambattista 03-04-06, 10:11 PM I felt and still feel as if they realized the objects are truly foreign, realized there was no explanation for their entry to the locations in my brain and no head trauma giving any explanable reasons for entry. In other words, If you were a brain/head Doctor and found objects in someones brain, in locations impossible to be located without some sort of signs of surgery or head impact or so on and so forth, what would you do?
Send the guy home, or announce you have just discovered solid foreign objects in the brain of a patient that currently exceeds any known explanation known to current technology or even any explanation resulting from any head trauma etc?
If I were you, I would probably have been extremely paranoid about it all. I'm that kind of person.
Your difficulty in obtaining the scans is also puzzling. Especially the disappearing CD and the suddenly locked file. Am I correct that she was frustrated because she had just had access, but now she was denied? Do you think someone changed the codes or some type of authorization level?
A couple questions, again, if you don't mind terribly.
Who was the main doctor? Was this your regular physician, or do you not have one?
Who were the other two doctors? Any specialties? Was one of them a neurologist?
What happened to your serotonin problem? You indicate that you had some medication for it. Did it eventually go away on its own?
Did you have any other marks at all on your body at the time? Anything that seemed out of place? I assume you probably would have mentioned it by now, but just checking.
Did your doctors make a specific comment on the rectangular shaped objects? They appear to be positioned in a rectangular formation themselves.
Did they comment on possible composition? I don't know if they could ever tell without actually removing them, but.
Finally, did you ever have any dreams or nightmares about anything that you felt was connected to the flying object, the missing time, or the foreign objects in your brain? You mentioned some type of anxiety or fear, I think in connection with your serotonin deficiency.
I assume that you've never seen any other strange lights or objects since then. Is this correct? Have other people noticed strange things?
Sorry to hear about your heart attack, especially with no insurance. Sounds like you've got it pretty damn rough. Just a little sad, actually.
How are you coping with it? Do you ever feel victimised at all? I do, and I'm not dealing with any implants, either. At least I hope not!
Well, I hope you're not a weirdo with some doctored photos who decided to play a trick! I'd hate to be wasting time and concern on some hoaxer.
Arrivederci, signore!
Mr Anonymous 03-04-06, 10:13 PM Zounds! From 0 to complete asshole, in no time flat!
Amazing. Simply amazing!
As a matter of fact those exact sentiments do indeed very much express my precise opinion to the very letter - how uncommonly perceptive of you to have figured that out all by yourself. Jolly well done you!
Now bugger off, you bore me.
Mr Anonymous,
Thank again, I have been running it through my mind of how it may take shape and watching how I present my conversation and problems with an ER Doctor.
With the guidance you have offered I'm getting a pretty good idea of what not to say and that I should inform them of how long I have delt with the vision and pain issues.
By the way, I'm not really caring if a little dishonesty has to happen in order for them to begin a medical examination, there are a lot bigger crimes in this world going on than a little white lie, by staying away from implant or ufo discussions.
Besides, I'll have my scans to show them and tell them I'm am still having the vision and pain problems (truth), I'll just explain it is happening a bit more frequently is all.
Thank you again, you have helped me too at the very least, know I can actually go through the process again but with scans in hand this time. :)
Mr Anonymous 03-04-06, 10:58 PM Your very kind, but really I assure you, its been a pleasure to have been of some assistance. If you want to say thanks, believe me when I say in going about things this way you are not, in anyway shape or form, telling so much as one single word of a lie in any of it.
The last time you went at this you omitted the necessary through fear of possibly being found foolish - that's not a crime. That's just human. This time around you are only omitting the un-necessary (the UFO, the overtones of UFO Belief).
That isn't a lying. That's allowing the actual truth to possibly, finally, emerge, and you're doing it by disclosing the whole truth about the actual facts actually for the first time. In the real world. Giving yourself an opportunity to unburden yourself of just a fraction of the fear you must have been living with over the course of, how long now?
Must be worth it just for that.
You'll not telling a word of a lie here Cuda. Not a one. Believe that, because it is the truth.
A
Giambattists,
Actually, I have no personal physician, I rarely ever see a Doctor for anything.
The hospital was not even in my location, I was visiting family and had severe pains and vision had been getting worse over the past month. So I went to the hospital there, this is why it took me so long to get a copy of my scans, it was when I was there again visiting that I called them and wanted to get a copy.
The medication the Doctor gave me for the serotonin loss did help out a lot.
No other markings and nothing out of place. I never have had any dreams about any ufos or aliens or any such thing.
They never spoke to me specifically about the objects, but did mention the triangle and object on the recording and their locations.
No, I don't ever feel victimized. I actually work my ass off and when shit happens, I simply look at it like that, shit happens.
I have no need to lie to you or anyone else. If that were the case, I'm sure I would have all kinds of stories I should be coming up with.
My conversations with you people are regarding my brain scans. I don't have fuzzy stuff around the objects in my scans like the photos on the internet that people put together to make a funny picture. I can tell those pictures have been put together.
I'm actually trying to find a medical Doctor or anyone that knows of one that is in the brain field that would take my scans and further investigate my situation, and off to that person my scans will go.
Please feel safe that I have no reason to lie to you or anyone else.
I initially posted my post to get feedback and explain exactly what I'm search for, a Doctor. I have enjoyed sharing my situation with you guys and have received excellent feedback.
Now that I have a direction to go, thanks to Mr Anonymous, I will most likely be gone from here for good real soon.
Thanks all for your feedback, very very helpful.
While replying here, I've been searching the net for groups dealing with the brain. Thanks to Mr Anonymous, I started looking for brain issues instead of implant groups. A couple sites actually have brain doctors that read and sometimes post in those groups. I will be renaming my photos on that site i placed them on as, Cancer growth? Cell damage? etc. In the hopes of getting one of these Doctors to view them and hopefully maybe even be able to send them to one of them. So if anyone happens to view those scans again you will know why the titles are different.
Actually I'm excited as all get up, so after i post this, I'll be joining a couple of those groups.
Thanks one heck of a lot guys!
Giambattista 03-04-06, 11:42 PM Don't forget to check back once in awhile with any developments, sir.
Good night. Good luck.
SkinWalker 03-04-06, 11:46 PM And your extreme lack of objectivity regarding what I actually said above is indicative of your unbelief in the space-alien hypothesis, and your need to make your "superiority" on the subject known at every possible point.
Classic pseudo-skeptic tactics.
Indeed. Though, I assure you, the tactic is completely skeptical and not pseudo- at all. There simply is no evidence to support the silly little green man hypothesis, which appears to be largely in the fantasies of the few. Therefore, a distinct bias against such poppycock is healthy. However, should verifiable and testable evidence present itself, we have another matter. Until then, the little green man hypothesis is no more viable than the pink unicorn hypothesis or the invisible-and-non-corporeal, purple dragon in my garage hypothesis.
There is, however, an abundance of evidence for image artifacts in brain scans and physical effects that can cause some if not all of the things cuda believes are present in his images. Some of the things he's pointed out appear to be suculae shadows, which can take a very triangular form and even appear rectilinear or square in some images. Moreover, the software algorithms used to smooth the image are known to create artifacts in the final image. Indeed, the very pixels themselves are geometric and the algorithms fill in missing information with "guesses" or neutral data, giving the appearance of an object. It could also be that there are heterotopic regions that could show up in geometric-appearing suculae as neurons are firing in places the ought not. Heterotopias can cause seizures and can go undetected until well into adult years.
Furthermore, I know he has, on more than one occasion, been accompanied by another doctor more appropriate and able to conduct a proper operation during these removals. Leir doesn't do all of this alone. He apparently is able to realise where his expertise is in want.
Leir is a quack. He claims to have "removed" alien implants and devices, yet offers no evidence. Such a thing would surely demonstrate the existence of the little green men, but should he offer an "object" that doesn't show to contain alien isotopes, etc., and that has a very earthly explanation, his fantasies would crumble like a house of cards. The key to maintaining the myth is keeping the evidence at arm's reach of real science. This is the M.O. of pseudoscience.
I appears that Cuda already contacted some of the mentioned persons.
It appears so. Yet another wild claim finds its way to sciforums, perhaps in search of the same validation that wild-claimants have traditionally sought as they venture from the back-slapping communities of UFO-Nutters and Woo-Woos into the "science forums." If there was any real scientific validity to cuda's questions and claims, would they not be better served in the Human Science (http://www.sciforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=69) or the Biology & Genetics (http://www.sciforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=31) subforums? Why post here in the pseudoscience subforum?
I was about 75% serious in mentioning those people.
Wow. A whole 75%, eh? The problem is, these were your first recommendations and obviously the ones that have resonated the most with cuda. Sure, there's a chance that cuda was abducted by little green men and implanted with some alien technology. There's probably a bigger chance I'll reach down and pick up a discarded lotto ticket tomorrow and it'll turn out to be the Power Ball winner. There's no evidence for the little green men. Lots of evidence for Power Ball. There's even more evidence of real neurological problems, imaging artifacts, mundane anatomical features that are misinterpreted, and people who live a fantasy of alien abduction.
Nice of you to add the "seek medical attention" disclaimer following your woo-woo encouragement, however.
I did it mostly because if there IS a connection between these objects and some non-human intellegence,
Non-human intelligence (its "intelligence", by the way, not "intellegence" -but don't sweat it, typos don't concern me)? Are you referring to chimpanzees or bonobos? They're the next most intelligent creatures that aren't human. Are you suggesting that chimps are slipping their cages at the zoo and stealing into the night to implant the little Chiquita stickers from their bananas in the heads of unsuspecting humans? Or do you have evidence of some other "non-human intelligence?"
That, perhaps if the objects were anomalous enough to warrant an investigation, perhaps Cuda would find himself the recipient of some financial aid to have said objects removed, ASSUMING it's not too risky.
Of course they warrant investigation. From neurologists and brain surgeons, not draftsmen and podiatrists.
I fail to see how I gave him any dangerous, callous, or reckless advice.
Then you are right. I should recant my position. I offer my humblest apologies. I assumed you were being callous and reckless in giving a potentially ill person the advice to pursue his/her potential fantasies about space aliens and abductions that include alien implants by seeking advice from woo-woo's like Streeber, Leir and Hopkins rather than accept his neurologists as valid.
I realize now that you were being sincere and believed yourself to be thoughtful.
Far from being callous and reckless, you were simply being ignorant and, apparently, acted on your own beliefs in space aliens (75% serious, I think you said).
Thoughtless? You, dear Skinwalker, are the thoughtless one, I am more than happy to state!
Indeed. Accept my apologies, for it must surely be a sin to deride the ignorant as being willfully incompetent. Truly, you could only have been unwittingly incompetent in your recommendation.
The very name of this thread "Brain Implants" implies that they are PURPOSELY put there. After all, what IS an implant but an intentionally inserted object?
Which is exactly the reason why I thought your comments to be callous and reckless, one should not fan the flames of delusion, after all. Not that delusion necessarily exists, but erring on the side of caution when dealing with someone's brain is wise. But, since it is clear that you meant well, albeit quite ignorantly and from an apparently distinct belief in space aliens, I forgive your incompetence.
Let's hope that cuda's situation isn't serious, however. My passion against recommending woo-woo witchdoctors is one based in experience. My wife and best friend has a grey-matter heterotopia (GMH), which was discovered in her mid-twenties when she began having seizures. Her brain scans revealed several very unusual shapes and features, some of them geometric. Had she not received some very excellent care from a very talented neurologist, she would very likely have had more seizures, which could have threatened her life if they occurred while driving or swimming. The brain is not something to take lightly, and if the OP gets encouragement that equates to "dude, they might be alien implants," he could delay treatment. Even if they were some sort of implant, the only person qualified to investigate it would be a neurologist.
The fact that several doctors could not explain the objects, that they were considered foreign in nature, the mysterious circumstances under which his problems started, and the sighting of the silver object, are all obvious factors that have led Cuda to wonder if these things are not naturally occurring, and that led him to consider that they may be implants, hence the name "Brain Implants" for this particular discussion.
Do you really think that a neurologist would let something truly anomalous get past him/her? Think about it. Not only would the discovery of something truly unique make for a neat publication, they get paid by the visit. Its more likely that cuda's desire for the things he pointed at in his images to be anomalous is driving him.
Skinwalker has been consistently revealing his nature on this board as a true pseudo-skeptical dismisser and naysayer, but it appears he may have stooped to an all new low. Pay close attention to the very one-sided and biased treatment of my words and my position.
I believe I have adequately proven his statements about me to be quite misleading.
Which is why I've revised my statements. I accept your criticisms. I was being unfair. I fully recant my accusations of callousness and recklessness and replace them with the accusation of being an ignorant believer, the extent to which has yet to be determined. My nature on this board is and has always been consistent, moreover, your use of the woo-woo bitch/moan term "pseudo-skeptical" says more about you than I. I dismiss nonsense that has no evidence. Produce the evidence, I stop dismissing it. That's the way science works, whether you like it or not. The supernatural has no place in attempting to make natural explanations of the universe. That would be akin to physicists giving up on looking for evidence of gravity waves and simply announcing "it must be magic." My criticism is, indeed, biased. Its biased towards science and against pseudoscience.
Your words on this board, however, have become increasingly pseudoscientific. If fake science is your bag, don't be surprised when those that actually think critically call you on your ignorance.
@ Cuda: Please accept my apologies for allowing your personal difficulties to take second stage to the on-going disagreement that exists between skeptics and others in this forum. I've no doubt that what you're dealing with is stressful and trying at times. If it appears I've made any assumptions about your intentions in this thread, with regard to the title and implications it holds, accept -again- my sincerest apologies (far more sincere than those I offered Gambattista). It seems apparent in your exchanges with Mr. A. that you are considering all possibilities and are searching for discussion wherever you can find it to obtain leads and direction.
Good luck in resolving your issue and let's hope the anomalies are simple image artifacts or suculus shadows rather than more serious problems such as lesions, heterotopias, or tumors.
Mr Anonymous 03-05-06, 12:01 AM Actually I'm excited as all get up, so after i post this, I'll be joining a couple of those groups.
Thanks one heck of a lot guys!
:) ... Cuda. That is truly is excellent to hear - kind of gives one faith in humanity, there are actually genuine real life people with genuine real life problems out there.
It's we that should thank you. And I do. take every opportunity to give yourself every possible chance of getting to the bottom of this. Seize it, explore it, if you reach a dead end, backtrack and go at it again from a different angle.
You will resolve this and I think I speak on behalf of everyone here when I say, we wish you every possible success. Truly.
Farewell, I have the instinct you will.
My regards,
A ;)
Giambattista 03-05-06, 12:27 AM Hello, Skins.
I'm sure you already "feel" the fact that I'm seething with...
guh... guh... guh... gurp?
WOW! LOOK AT THIS MOUNTAIN!!! And to think, just hours ago all we had was a mole hill.
SkinWalker 03-05-06, 01:35 AM So plant your flag. The "mountain" is yours. I've said my piece and I'm done.
Giambattista 03-05-06, 01:39 AM I was done before you, so HA!
You've at least proven that you can beat a dead ox. Did it make that pleasing sound that you hoped for???
Zounds! From 0 to complete asshole, in no time flat!
Amazing. Simply amazing!
YES Giam. i am seeing same as you...!
Giambattista 03-05-06, 05:54 AM YES Giam. i am seeing same as you...!
Brava duendy, BRAVA!!!
I call them as I see them.
He went from civil to extremely unreasonable in the blink of an eye.
Reasons, I have none. I guess it's one of those mysteries.
:confused:
annd, just let me add. i already told Cuda i trust him.
Skin? i trust YOU about as far as i can throw ya!
Mr Anonymous 03-05-06, 09:32 AM He went from civil to extremely unreasonable in the blink of an eye.
Reasons, I have none.
I guess it's one of those mysteries. :confused:
Yeah. Right:
Today, 04:38 AM
Zounds! From 0 to complete asshole, in no time flat!
Amazing. Simply amazing!
03-02-06, 10:26 AM
Mr. Anonymous:
what the hell kind of drugs make a person type in the manner that you do? Jiminy Christmas, sorry is right!
This thread was a very big mistake. I did it on a whim, and questioned myself every step of the way. Apparently the answers I gave myself weren't informed enough to stop me from doing it.
That's quite some blink you've got going for you there.
YES Giam. i am seeing same as you...!
Duendy? Other than shit stirring, y'got anything else to add? Rhetorical question. Run.
Giambattista 03-05-06, 10:28 AM Mr. Anonymous:
what the hell kind of drugs make a person type in the manner that you do? Jiminy Christmas, sorry is right!
Is THAT what has your panties in a bind??? :eek:
I was just a little sour at the time, but in no way did I intend to insult you.
I actually wondered if perhaps you had taken offence to that when I was trying to understand exactly why you went completely ape-shit.
Understand this:
I do NOT insult people if they do not deserve it, and I can tell you honestly that what you quoted was NOT an insult. (which indicates that indeed you did not deserve one in the first place!) I am sorry if it was spoken in a manner which would seem otherwise.
I do not stoop to such things. I have a very acute sense of justice, right and wrong, and I value my own judgement very highly. Yes, I am my own judge.
I'm also a rather nice person, and I would never attack someone for such a shallow, petty reason.
What I SHOULD have said there, was that perhaps you were a little too wordy (and I'm not??? :p ) or long in the tooth. Neither of which would ever earn my disdain, believe me.
I was more upset that my somewhat serious thread had kind of flopped, in my opinion.
Again, it may have looked like an insult, but it was not. It was merely a poor choice of words.
And that is the honest truth.
Giambattista 03-05-06, 10:30 AM Can we now put these misunderstandings behing us, Mr. Anonymous?
Mr Anonymous 03-05-06, 11:59 AM It was merely a poor choice of words.
Let me assure you completely here. Indeed. It really was.
I'll tell you this the one time only Giambattista - stay the fuck out of my face until such time as I cool off. I will, you have my absolute promise about this, very much remain the arbiter of how and when I find myself to have been insulted or not - and you remain absolutely bang on the money only when you relay "indeed you did not deserve one in the first place!"
That's my response to you. My answer, my meaning. That isn't up for debate.
Now, with that at least out of my system for now, here's the bit where I respond like a human being instead of an answer machine. Do whatever you like with it, I'm hoping frankly you've just got the sense to just fucking listen and leave the hell alone but of late I wouldn't put good money on that. Nevertheless...
For fuck sakes Giam - where the fuck is your bladdy head at of late?!
Y'flit around between thread to thread, posting the first thing that comes into your bladdy head with not a single thought for any possible consequence of what it is you're actually doing - when it comes to fuck stupid, pointless, idiot argument's with members about nothing whatsoever, suddenly you develop the capacity to at least focus on where you are with the present moment. But as to all the rest, and there's a crap load of it of late, you're like a butterfly. Flitting from one thing to the next.
I've just spent the last couple of days focusing on one particular problem of how to get a man who came into these forums with a sense of resignation to a fate he hardly feels in the slightest in control of to leaving here with a spring in his stride and some measure at least of possibly hope that something actually practical can indeed actually be done regarding his condition and possibly the course of the rest of his natural life.
Other than positing some of the most dick stupid questions I've ever in my life read from a man over the age of 16 and arguing the shit with SkinWalker ( and no. I. do not. fucking. give. a. shit who started. it) you've accomplished squat all else worth writing home about.
This contained herein not withstanding.
Giam, whoever the fuck you are, you are quite obviously a witty, funny, light hearted sort of a guy occasionally, when you focus, insightful and beneficial to the forum as a whole - a great addition I had always though one I was rather pleased I had the sense to be one of the first on the welcoming comunity when you started settling in down this way and being a regular.
But you carry on like this and you'll be outstaying your welcome permanently. I'm not joking with you here or spinning you any of the usual board rhetoric - I'm been straight with you, even though every bone in my instinct is telling me to just kick your sorry arse from one end of this website to the other, I give a shit enough to tell you straight your pissing on too many peoples shoes just out of habit rather than any form of need, and that's just going to get you dead round here - board-wise, you're going to become the equivalent of the guy in school whose walks around with a Kick me HARD sign cellotaped to his crotch and somehow not getting why suddenly everyones booting him in the nuts.
We're not friends here you and |