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This makes little sense to me.
Ok, 1 pound of fat is 3,500 calories. It in one week I went from 32 pounds of fat to 23 pounds. In one day (being today) I went from 25 pounds to 23 pounds. This is equivelant to 7000 calories. How in the hell? And how do I lose 9 pounds in a week? The only thing I changed in my diet is change to a "diet" version of Moutain Dew (still caffeine, but no sugar).
I remember my set-point is about 155 pounds (considering that was my weight from 16 to about 20 and it never deviated by much). Maybe now that sugar isn't blocking the fats from being metabolised, it's trying to get me back?
And the only thing I ate today was a number 3 from Krystals (3 chiks, medium fries and a regular coke).
:bugeye:
Kat9Lives 07-15-06, 02:20 AM water loss??
No.. I am drinking nearly 4 liters a day.
I would have to add this: I am not judging fat loss by how much weight I am losing. Overall, I probably lost 7-10 pounds... I am calculating the amount of fat I have from an electric scale. I take many measurements and alter a few things to make sure I get a good measurement.
Well it is weird.. I went out running and doing a few other things. However, from what I am reading the body naturally tried to lose weight at about 1.5 pounds a week, at most. This is because if you reduce your calorie intake, your brain tries to slow your metabolism down (survival mode). However, I wonder if it is the strength training I am doing. I've noticed some fairly strong changes in my strength recently.. and I have only been at it for 2 or so weeks.
But 6,000-7000 calories in a day? I am not a bodybuilder and I did not do much today.. just went to the store and did some moderation at a party that went out of hand.
Hrm.
Bodybuilders try to maximize calorie intake and minimize output. Notice the lack of aerobic activities in the typical bodybuilder's regimen. It's why they make shitty atheletes.
spuriousmonkey 07-15-06, 04:59 AM It could be your body getting used to the new regime, building up some new muscle or repairing damage. That takes energy too. It will slow down after your body gets used to the exercise regime.
Bodybuilders try to maximize calorie intake and minimize output. Notice the lack of aerobic activities in the typical bodybuilder's regimen. It's why they make shitty atheletes.
I thought the 6,000 calories (or more) per day is mostly for muscle maintanance and maybe add 2000 for workouts that day?
It could be your body getting used to the new regime, building up some new muscle or repairing damage. That takes energy too. It will slow down after your body gets used to the exercise regime.
Possible. 6 pounds of fat lost is OK I guess, but I still do not get 6,000+ calories in a day. Would my body really use that much up? It wouldn't be used in the repair process, would it?
spuriousmonkey 07-15-06, 11:26 AM Maybe gravity has been lowered recently?
Had that been the case, my percent BF would have remained the same (dispite weight loss).
:)
Carcasm 07-16-06, 03:49 PM Do you have a tapeworm?
Lol... no. As a matter of fact, I haven't been sick or even felt sick in years :bugeye:
gendanken 07-18-06, 10:34 PM Funny, but tapeworms generally eat proteins or sugars not fats.
Are you using a caliper?
Funny, but tapeworms generally eat proteins or sugars not fats.
Should I not gain any muscles in 10 weeks, I'll know :o
Are you using a caliper?
No. I am using an electic scale. The numbers tend to variate a bit but I take a number of samples throughout the day to get a good average.
I don't have a lot of fat... it just seems to collect around my abdomen. I am fairly lean throughout except there.
Technically, you could be having an hyperactive thyroid. That can make you lose 20 kilos in a few weeks, easily, without other noticeable signs, other than feeling a bit uptight. Around 3-5 kilos a week for the first and second week of a hyperactive thyroid is common.
Wasn't it you who posted a while back of having troubled concentrating, being stressed, unable to sleep, or something like that?
I hope it's not your thyroid.
It could be that the rapid weight loss is a combined effect of a number of factors: Changed diet, stress, heat.
one_raven 07-19-06, 04:42 AM It's all a matter of how the body processes complex sugars.
I reduced my sugar intake by 50%, and lost nearly 30 pounds in a month.
No more exercise, no other diet changes, just reduced (not even cut out) complex sugars.
Technically, you could be having an hyperactive thyroid. That can make you lose 20 kilos in a few weeks, easily, without other noticeable signs, other than feeling a bit uptight. Around 3-5 kilos a week for the first and second week of a hyperactive thyroid is common.
Wasn't it you who posted a while back of having troubled concentrating, being stressed, unable to sleep, or something like that?
I hope it's not your thyroid.
It could be that the rapid weight loss is a combined effect of a number of factors: Changed diet, stress, heat.
I have always wonder if I have an underactive thyroid or something similar. I had my doctor check that out along with other things (he didn't want to test it but I kept insisting). He only checked one aspect of it and made the conclusion there is nothing wrong. It was not the full spectrum of blood tests that are usually done. But even if I have an underactive thyroid, I have a lot of symptoms of an overactive one. I'd say about a 50/50 mix.
Yes, I posted something about concentration and the other things you mentioned. I still have those. However, I am wondering if they might be linked to my inactive lifestyle and eating pattens. I am trying to change, but it is so damn hard. The diet part is easy for me. The hard part is the exercising because I get tired so quickly. Interestingly, I do not get very tired from running for a half hour (keeping up an 8 minutes per mile pace), but I get pretty tried trying to do other things like a bench press or anything else that is not cardiovascular. :confused:
It's all a matter of how the body processes complex sugars.
I reduced my sugar intake by 50%, and lost nearly 30 pounds in a month.
No more exercise, no other diet changes, just reduced (not even cut out) complex sugars.
Did you eat a lot of low GI foods or high GI foods? That can make a difference. At least make sure you get enough carbs throughout the day (and frequenctly enough) to have energy. As I learned, getting energy from fats sucks.
antifreeze 07-19-06, 04:27 PM but I get pretty tried trying to do other things like a bench press or anything else that is not cardiovascular.
what is your exercise regimen? are you going for higher weight or higher repetition? how often do you go to the gym? etc.
what is your exercise regimen? are you going for higher weight or higher repetition? how often do you go to the gym? etc.
Strength/endurance program. Basically the program is to get one in enough shape to pass the Navy SEAL physical requirements to start training (the nearly 6 months of non-stop PT/evolution stuff). I have no intentions of joining the SEALs, but I would like to be in the kind of shape they are.
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=55901
So basically I do pushups, situps, pullups, running, and swimming. I have added the brench press, chinups (to work the biceps), and the ab crunch. It may be a lot.
However, I am not concerned about being tired halfway through or even at the very end. That is expected. However, why is it that I fininish my first set of pushups or whatever I start with and I am yawning at the end of it?!
Yawning, as far as I know, means the brain doesn't get enough oxygen.
I myself tend to yawn when doing demanding exercises. I sometimes yawn at mountainhiking.
Yawning, as far as I know, means the brain doesn't get enough oxygen.
I myself tend to yawn when doing demanding exercises. I sometimes yawn at mountainhiking.
I don't know... I've read it could be a lack of dopamine in the brain. There was a study that showed dopamine production increases when one yawns. As to why, it is only speculation right now.
gendanken 07-19-06, 07:55 PM That is expected. However, why is it that I fininish my first set of pushups or whatever I start with and I am yawning at the end of it?!
Because you're trying to convey to us unsuspecting, seuxally starved, gullible females that your manjuice is potent enough to make exercise boring.
Hercules twirling Urananus like a basketball.
I...I...I just queefed.
(You may be doing something wrong, 7, 000 calories in a day? That's insane)
Because you're trying to convey to us unsuspecting, seuxally starved, gullible females that your manjuice is potent enough to make exercise boring.
Hercules twirling Urananus like a basketball.
I...I...I just queefed.
Interesting (lmao). I am fixing to go for another 2-mile run. At least I do not get sleepy during that.
(You may be doing something wrong, 7, 000 calories in a day? That's insane)
It seemed to last for a few days (burning that much). Since, it has slowed down dramically. Perhaps it was my body adjusting to the new demands? Hell, last week for dinner I ate an entire extra large pizza and it did not seem to affect me at all.
spuriousmonkey 07-23-06, 01:38 PM I have a new theory based on factual experience.
I was weighing myself at the gym one day and the next day I was suddenly weighing 10kg less.
The scale was broken.
Maybe your scale also joined the strike against gravity.
I have a new theory based on factual experience.
I was weighing myself at the gym one day and the next day I was suddenly weighing 10kg less.
The scale was broken.
Maybe your scale also joined the strike against gravity.
Perhaps. But I am still at 13.9% fat or so (down from 18 a couple of weeks ago like I said).
But other scales I have used (like at my buddy's house a few days ago) also told me I weighed the same.
spuriousmonkey 07-23-06, 02:25 PM Maybe your fatometer joined the strike against gravity too??
Maybe not.. I have noticed my jumping height has increased by 2 feet. Should I be worried?
spuriousmonkey 07-23-06, 02:32 PM I have noticed my jumping height has increased by 2 feet. Should I be worried?
Definitely gravity related.
Perhaps. But I am still at 13.9% fat or so (down from 18 a couple of weeks ago like I said).
But other scales I have used (like at my buddy's house a few days ago) also told me I weighed the same.
I would be really interested to know on what basis this scale calculates your body fat.
The simplest way I know of is by using calipers, which is based on the assumtion that 50% of body fat resides under the skin.
The gold standard is hydrostatic weighing where the subject is immersed in water after expelling as much air as possible.
The way we use in the lab is the Bod Pod which uses volume of air displacement and is similar to hydrostatic weighing (which uses vulume of liquid displaced).
For my rats I use DXA (dual-energy x-ray absorptiometry ) which is sort of like a whole body X-ray where different equations are used to calculate body fat based on the densities of the tissues measured
All these methods are still based on certain assumptions and are subject to measurement error, equipment standardization or errors due to differences in lean body mass densities.
So how does your scale measure body fat?
Well it is electric. I would assume that it knows the voltage and it calculates measures the amps, hence being able to calculate the resistance of the body. It then compares this to what is expected of a certain height, weight, age, and sex that I have input.
Well it is electric. I would assume that it knows the voltage and it calculates measures the amps, hence being able to calculate the resistance of the body. It then compares this to what is expected of a certain height, weight, age, and sex that I have input.
And what is the relation between resistance and body fat?
Fat has more rersistance to electrical current than any other tissue.
Fat has more rersistance to electrical current than any other tissue.
So the results could be affected by changes in lean mass density, redistribution of fat, status of hydration, changes in bone mineral density, increase in muscle mass?
Exhumed 07-27-06, 01:30 AM I assume you minimized your error, because on a average household scale, that is a within it's margin of error.
If you have a caloric deficit of more than 500 per day (for most people) your body will turn to burning muscle instead of fat. In most cases of losing weight rapidly it is muscle that is lost. Muscle is heavier and the only thing that will burn that quick.
And the only thing I ate today was a number 3 from Krystals (3 chiks, medium fries and a regular coke).
That will definitely create too large of a deficit with your basal metabolic rate, let alone if you do any activity.
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