Block of Ice Mystery

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  1. Hypercane Sustained Winds at Mach One Registered Senior Member

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    It is known every now and then that single blocks of pure ice falls from the sky. The only puzzling thing is that those single blocks of pure ice falls from a CLEAR sky.



    Block of ice weighing four and a half pounds fell from a clear sky in Cazorta, Spain, June 15 1829.

    Block of ice weighing eleven pounds fell from a clear sky at Cette, France, October 1844.

    Mass of ice three feet long, three feet wide, two feet thick fell from a clear sky in Hungary, May 8 1802.

    Block of ice weighing twenty five pounds fell from a clear sky into a meadow in London, England, August 1857.




    Nobody knows where these come from and how they are formed.
     
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  3. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    It came from the sky as was stated. Why ask where it came from when you already know!
     
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  7. Hypercane Sustained Winds at Mach One Registered Senior Member

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    Okay haha. They come from the sky. But how it was formed and WHERE was it formed is a mystery. Does that make it clearer?

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  8. Hypercane Sustained Winds at Mach One Registered Senior Member

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    Well there were also some other cases where it would fall a day after a storm.. and i think it was all or most of the cases were pure ice.
     
  9. fadingCaptain are you a robot? Valued Senior Member

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    When angered, the ice god unleashes his wrath by hurtling ice cubes from heavens.

    That or some kind of freak weather phenomenom.

    Aren't there more recent occurances? Why were the 1800's such a prime time for falling ice chunks?
     
  10. Hypercane Sustained Winds at Mach One Registered Senior Member

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    Haha. Id lean more on freak weather phenomenon.

    Thats what i was wondering. I will search.
     
  11. Hypercane Sustained Winds at Mach One Registered Senior Member

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    Actually there has been recent ones. About fifty cases within the last century. And all were falling from a clear sky. Still nobody knows where they really form. Climatologists find it very strange ice is falling from a sky that isnt suited to form such precipitate. Even in heavy cumulonimbus clouds, ice blocks of that size cannot form. The biggest hailstone was possibly like one of those in "The Day After Tomorrow". And clear skies dont have any precipitate. One recent case is in 2000 when an ice block the size of half a car fell down on a clear summers day.
     
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  12. Hypercane Sustained Winds at Mach One Registered Senior Member

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    Maybe for the first time in climate history, clear skies could have precipitate.

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  13. fadingCaptain are you a robot? Valued Senior Member

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    Are they sure they aren't falling from space?
     
  14. Hypercane Sustained Winds at Mach One Registered Senior Member

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    Well you could consider the possibility, but how would blocks of pure ice survive the fall through the atmosphere?
     
  15. fadingCaptain are you a robot? Valued Senior Member

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    Good question. Only thing I could think of is that they are giant blocks of ice that get burnt down to small ones when they get through the atmosphere. But if they start off as giant ice chunks...wouldn't we see them before they got here?
     
  16. Hypercane Sustained Winds at Mach One Registered Senior Member

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    Im guessing so. If a block of ice came from space, it would have to be huge to surviv through the atmosphere, maybe the size of a glacier. But i wonder, if it did come from space, where would all the water come from to make a mass of ice that large?

    So i guess it has to originate from the atmosphere itself.
     
  17. The Singularity The last thing you'll ever see Registered Senior Member

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    Large masses of ice could have easily came from the Kuiper belt or the Oort cloud ... and those masses of ice were formed during the formation of the early solar system billions of years ago when our sun was surrounded by only a protoplanetary disk.

    If those large masses of ice did come form space ... it would be from there.

    And I don't think they originated from the atmosphere because the process to form ice blocks isn't there. Moist air from the surface has to reach the atmosphere to even begin to condense into water through accretion and this process would automatically form a cloud where the water molecules accrete.

    Maybe it's the crew of the ISS throwing the ice from orbit ... trying mess with our scientific minds

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  18. Hypercane Sustained Winds at Mach One Registered Senior Member

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    Its very rare that objects from the Kuiper Belt or the Oort clodu comes to the inner solar system. When a star passes by, a gravitational wave by the star pushes a few or more objects from the Oort Cloud and those objects might bring along KBO's along. Now most of these are caught by any of the gas giants' gravity and the ones that actually makes it through becomes a comet.

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    Asteroids dont become comets because the KBO's and Oort cloud objects are made of a different composition and react differently in the heat of the sun.

    So i doubt its the objects from either one.

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    Haha. The ISS mustve been longer lived than we thought, ever far before Sputnik.
     
  19. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Hypercane, what is your source for these reports?
     
  20. The Singularity The last thing you'll ever see Registered Senior Member

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    Interesting. These large ice blocks are refered to as megacryometeors and from this website I found ... it may be due to global warming. This is the article I found about it ... though they get to the point near the end of it. However, I'm still somewhat skeptical about it since they're tying it to global warming.

     
  21. The Singularity The last thing you'll ever see Registered Senior Member

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    I should note that this may not be the same ... it was the only article that even talks about falling chunks of ice that I could find.
     
  22. Hypercane Sustained Winds at Mach One Registered Senior Member

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    I had most of the reports saved in my harddrive. You know just for interest. I save these things, including the climatology on hypercanes.

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  23. Hypercane Sustained Winds at Mach One Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks anyways.

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