It is confirmed, let the good times roll!

http://www.webmd.com/news/20080407/bird-flu-jumped-from-son-to-father

Maybe we can boycott the olympics on health ground...

Mother-f....

Maybe we can boycott the olympics on health ground...

Well I'm not yet worried about bird flu become contagious, but if a way to boycott the Oppressive Chinese Olympics can be found through this...

Hrm would that make it the human flu ?

Well it a lot of nonsense,. Bird flu can only affect birds. A human virus would only be possible if those atheisr evolutionary types were right which ,as any Creationist will tell you, they are not. God did not create such a virus, so you are all worrying about nothing.

Lol, Myles this is the Biology subforum. Theism ain't allowed here ;).

Lol, Myles this is the Biology subforum. Theism ain't allowed here ;).

I'll have you know that the Lord is a biologist.

The December 2007 cases are only the second time scientists have demonstrated probable human-to-human transmission of the H5N1 bird flu virus.

From your link http://www.webmd.com/news/20080407/bird-flu-jumped-from-son-to-father

did they treat and isolate? how easerly did it jump? (ie at the moment i belive the virus is a lower respitory virus, if it moves up the tract then we have problems)

That being said this is quite scary

Hrm would that make it the human flu ?

When chickenpox kills people it doesn't make it the human pox...

Well I'm not yet worried about bird flu become contagious, but if a way to boycott the Oppressive Chinese Olympics can be found through this...I hate to see the Olympics screwed by politics. I still remember asshole Jimmy Carter boycotting the Moscow Olympics in 1980 and as a result my Olympics the next time in Los Angeles were boycotted by the other side. The athletes put four years of their lives into this and then some dickhead politician tells them they have to stay home. I think they should have a rule that the Olympics cannot be held in one of the major countries, because it's too likely that they'll piss off somebody and it will be politicized.

Now if the athletes themselves want to boycott it because it would be suicide to exercise so strenuously in such filthy air, that's a different story.Hrm would that make it the human flu ?We called the swine flu the swine flu.did they treat and isolate? how easily did it jump? (ie at the moment i believe the virus is a lower respiratory virus, if it moves up the tract then we have problems). That being said this is quite scary.In the past, the U.S. government has sent officers around killing parrots when there was an epidemic of Newcastle's disease, which only affects birds, because it was an economic problem for chicken breeders. Birds that were members of people's families were being murdered to save the lives of birds that were going to be killed and eaten! Back in the 1920s and 30s they were killing parrots because of what they called "parrot fever" or "psittacosis," a deadly human disease which turned out to be ornithosis and was not limited to psittacines. It's easily curable now but I shudder to think what the shit-for-brains government will do if a bird-borne epidemic hits the human population.

When chickenpox kills people it doesn't make it the human pox...

We called the swine flu the swine flu.

Forgive me :p

much ado about nothing. tempest in a teacup.

...sam ?

Fraggle Rocker,

Well it is not really political if someone calls it "quarantined", not that it going to happen but that a medical quarantine would provide a away to boycott it without having to take the blame.

In the past, the U.S. government has sent officers around killing parrots when there was an epidemic of Newcastle's disease, which only affects birds, because it was an economic problem for chicken breeders. Birds that were members of people's families were being murdered to save the lives of birds that were going to be killed and eaten! Back in the 1920s and 30s they were killing parrots because of what they called "parrot fever" or "psittacosis," a deadly human disease which turned out to be ornithosis and was not limited to psittacines. It's easily curable now but I shudder to think what the shit-for-brains government will do if a bird-borne epidemic hits the human population.

I have to dissagree with you here. The slaughter of bids was to PREVENT this senario, if it becomes easerly tansmissable we are in ALOT of danger. We cant even vacinate because the virus kills chicken eggs. If its true that it has jumped the people it jumped to need to be isolated and treated with tamiflu straight away because if its learned to jump it wont take long to become a quickly mobile virus in the human population

Call me an optimism but I think with todays quarantine procedures and advances in medicine such as antivirals and genetic engineering (to make a weaken virus for vaccines) and we won't have a plague like the 1918 all over again.

Call me a realist, but with today's airtraffic, an airborne disease can jump continents just in HOURS, thus if we ever have a pandemic, quarantine procedures will be almost useless or too late...

Just think about smallpox. Since it is officially doesn't exist (except 2-3 military laboratoriums) the population doesn't have any natural deffense or shots against it anymore. it could literally whipe out half of Earth population, if it gets out "accidentally" from those labs....

Edicational info:

"Smallpox is believed to have emerged in human populations about 10,000 BC.[2] The disease killed an estimated 400,000 Europeans each year during the 18th century (including five reigning monarchs), and was responsible for a third of all blindness.[3] Between 20 and 60% of all those infected—and over 80% of infected children—died from the disease.[6]

During the 20th century, it is estimated that smallpox was responsible for 300–500 million deaths.[7][8] As recently as 1967, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimated that 15 million people contracted the disease and that two million died in that year.[9] After successful vaccination campaigns throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, the WHO certified the eradication of smallpox in 1979.[9] To this day, smallpox is the only human infectious disease to have been completely eradicated from nature."

Call me a realist, but with today's airtraffic, an airborne disease can jump continents just in HOURS, thus if we ever have a pandemic, quarantine procedures will be almost useless or too late...

I don't think people from China and lower Asian get around as much as we do.

Really? I bet there are more Chinese business men than any other nationalities.

All it takes is 1 person....

Really? I bet there are more Chinese business men than any other nationalities.

All it takes is 1 person....

Perhaps, but then again we have antivirals, rapid vaccine creation cycles, and a media that would keep everyone at home in fear.

Was it like 3 years ago when a batch of vaccine was bad and had to be thrown out and it took like months to replace it.

Also we are talking about possible unknown disease. It is just question of time, when it will strike.

The disease jumped from one family member to another, because they live in close proximity and share a lot of genetic material.

When it starts jumping between non-related individuals, then you guys should really start freaking out.

It's called bird flu because it comes from birds and jumped right into the human population. And our flu vaccines will do nothing to stop it.