Bin Laden did it!!, he admits finally

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Godless, Nov 11, 2001.

  1. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Just released on the news, check it out; http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$DSPJJLQAACOGRQFIQMGSFFOAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2001/11/11/wbin11.xml&sSheet=/news/2001/11/11/ixhome.html

    What the heck was this sob, thinking? this news will perhaps bring the coalition against terrorism with complete aliance. Who knows?

    if you can't reach the link try this one;

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/
     
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  3. Benji Registered Senior Member

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    Convenient, so why has this video not been shown all over the world?
    If i was Ossma Bin Ladden id really circulate video's of me admiting to the WTC attacks because thats just the way go gain support from everyone isnt it?
     
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  5. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Is it? Every rational Muslim has denounced the act as being evil. Wouldn't that be like admitting to the world that he is Satan?
     
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  7. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Give it time...

    I believe the article mentioned something as it's world release on Wendsday via video.

    Quote; Bowser "Is it? Every rational Muslim has denounced the act as being evil. Wouldn't that be like admitting to the world that he is Satan?"

    Well Yes and No, perhaps I jumped the gun, lets not all jump into conclusions, is the news actually factual? is it reliable?, is it more American propaganda? see these are questions that still need be answered. Before we can surely pass judgement. If he did it, was he alone?, did he actually get the Mossad to help? Was Bush or The CIA aware of the attack before hand?, these are questions that may also need to come to light.

    look here; http://whatreallyhappened.com/osamaconfession.html
     
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  8. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    <i>"...is it more American propaganda?"</i>

    <b>London Telegraph</b>

    Doubtful.
     
  9. Markx Registered Senior Member

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    Maybe British Propaganda.

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    Telegraph isn't it the same paper who's Journalist was kicked out of Pakistan becuase she tried to buy a ticket under the name of Osama Bin Ladin??? SO she can convence the world that OBL is in Pakistand??? Now what kind of F**ed up Journailism is that???? What a sorry ass Journalist oh by the way her name was Christina Lamb.
     
  10. Benji Registered Senior Member

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    British propaganda American propaganda whats the difference?

    That was my point mate, i was trying to be sarcastic, my applogies english humor aint what it used to be

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    Lets be clear that article STATES AS FACT that he's admited (confessed) to it, if you were Ossma Bin Ladden why on earth would you do that?
    Think about it.

    You know as well as i that he wouldent, his entier support from the taliban is baised on the fact he claimed innocence, if he has admited to it then there is no need for war in Afganistan because the taliban said they would hand him over if hard evidence was presented, if a confession isnt hard evidence what is?
     
  11. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    The paper strikes me as the equivalent of the National Enquirer. I didn't give it a good read though.
     
  12. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Bowser

    Hey!! mate, that's how I think of it, or "The Globe, Star, or anyother news tabloid out there.

    However, in rare instances some of the less reputable news sources have come up with stories, that latter is reported in CNN, or ABCNEWS, as such.

    Can you really trust a newssourse which is payed off by the CIA?
     
  13. jandt remlik Registered Senior Member

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    Osama's Confession, real or a propaganda piece?

    Having failed to provide any proof to anyone that Osama Bin Laden was behind the attacks on the World Trade Towers, or for that matter that he is not still in the employ of the CIA, the latest tactic of the government propagandists will be another attempt to turn a video taped statement by Osama into a "confession".

    According to The London Telegraph, conclusive proof of Osama's guilt will soon be forthcoming in the form of a video taped confession.

    But there are two problems with this claim. The first is are that any translations of what Osama says provided by the media accurate? As was demonstrated recently with the "Osama has nukes" story, the english translation being provided may not be an accurate portrayal of what was actually said. As Rudyard Kipling observed, truth is the first casualty of war. Certainly the Pentagon proved that when it lied about the success of the raid in Afghanistan.

    With the potential for deliberate mistranslations in mind, much of what Osama is purported to have said starts to look less than convincing.

    Terrorists never call themselves terrorists. They call themselves freedom fighters, or something like that. That's certainly what Osama called himself when the CIA trained and funded him to do what he does. Adopting the opposition's name is a sign of defeat.

    Osama also apparently agrees that the World Trade Towers were a legitimate target. I don't agree with that, of course, but given the CIA's rampant killing of civilians in the mid east with car bombs and other such devices, I can see how middle easterners would come to that conclusion. After all, when the CIA tried to car bomb Sheik Mohammed Hossein Fadlallah in 1985, the bomb missed the Sheik but killed 80 people, including children. The lesson is clear; Americans view innocents as legitimate targets of attacks.

    Be that as it may, the combination of Osama's admiration for the hijackers, his declaration of being a freedom fighter (or terrorist, depending on the translator), and his statement that the WTC was a legitimate target may be made to look like a confession, but they aren't. And the proof of that (and a good means to test future propaganda) is that if Osama wasn't behind the WTC attacks, it doesn't change a single one of the statements he made. Even if he was not behind the WTC attacks, Osama's admiration for the hijackers would remain the same, he would still be a freedom fighter (or terrorist, depending on the translator), and he would still view the WTC as a legitimate target.

    The tape that Britain will release next Wednesday appears to be a re-edit and re-translation of the same video which was shown briefly about two weeks ago, again with the claim that it represented a confession. It doesn't. This latest effort doesn't prove that Osama was behind the attacks, only that he doesn't like the United States, and whether you like it or not, it is not a crime not to like the United States.

    Osama doesn't really need a translator. Prior to being recruited by the CIA he was a playboy all over Europe and he speaks excellent English. If he wanted to confess to an act of terror, he could do so, direct to the American people, in our own language.

    Why doesn't he?

    If Osama is guilty, he has everything to gain and nothing to lose by announcing that he was the planner and organizer of the WTC attacks. The US Government has already declared him guilty by fiat, without a trial, without a defense attorney, without due process, and it should be added without any evidence. Faking innocence isn't going to change the outcome for Osama. On the other hand, real terrorists always admit to what they have done. They BRAG about it, because the status a successful attack can bring to a terrorist organization brings them credibility and usually added funding from their sponsors.

    Finally, real terrorists have a socio-political intent. The purpose of a terrorist attack is to force a population to do something. In order to achieve that socio-political goal, the terrorist organization HAS to claim responsibility for the terrorist act, else the social-political goal is never linked to the terrorist act.

    The only party that is using the attacks on the WTC for a socio-political goal is the government of the United States, which is using the attacks to manufacture support for a war, a war already planned and announced months before the attacks on the WTC, a war which seems to exist solely to clear out the right-of-way for an oil pipeline.

    Who are the real terrorists here?

    Don't forget who was implicated in the earlier attempt to bomb the World Trade Towers.

    www.whatreallyhappened.com

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  14. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Whatever. All this shit has opened a door for opportunity...

    Stock market update:

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  15. machaon Registered Senior Member

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    Osama BinLaden

    Osama BInLaden Did everything. It is all his f***ing fault. All pain, death and misery in the world will be vanquished as soon as his head is impaled upon a stick and displayed at the front gates of NYC. Once that is accomplished, mankind will be ushered into a realm of meadows, bluebirds and F***ing white-tailed deer.
     

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