Bill Maher v. 9/11 "Truthers"

Discussion in 'World Events' started by madanthonywayne, Oct 23, 2007.

  1. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    A bunch of 9/11 "Truthers" infiltrated the Bill Maher show and started screaming from the audience crap like, "Don't tase me, bro" and "What about building 7?" Bill Maher calls for security and rushes into the audience to assist in kicking them out. It's pretty funny.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5BJzEshMes
     
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  3. moementum7 ~^~You First~^~ Registered Senior Member

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    I'm all for questioning 9/11 but there's a time and place.
    Just inappropriate.
    I like Bill.
     
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  5. countezero Registered Senior Member

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    What's to question?

    And how long before this thread devolves into conspiritorial ramblings?
     
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  7. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    9/11 was caused by Aliens.
     
  8. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    I was tazed by aliens. Lizardoid ones.

    Then I saw the light, and joined their collective.

    Now, I'm making $80K a year and have a sweet pad in Philly-stine! You, too, can become part of the Lizardoid revolution!
     
  9. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    That's interesting. I'm all for tazering Troofers. But there's a time and place. Like a Troofer hunt, say.
     
  10. so the man who told the truth on politically incorrect & got fired by ABC for it, has joined the dark sde, sad, so much for freedom of speech, & what about soft-ball Chris Matthews? fake, lapdog of the Bushoid neo-convicts? listen to him & be lulled into childish fuzzing thinking

    no one will investigate, because then the truth will be revealed, we are a banana republic, run by the oligarchs, the coup happened in 2000, Gore & Kerry really won, its just that they won't fight for it, being warned they would get the "Kennedy treatment", like JFK & RFK did,thats why the Dems are to scared to make real waves, they are the loyal opposition, afraid to go too far, lest they end up in Gitmo
     
  11. superstring01 Moderator

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    Yes... yes. A coup happened in 2000. Look, it's crazy, but it can happen that the country can elect a president when the Electoral College has more votes than the actual democratic vote. I'm all for changing the system, but that's hardly a coup. It's a gaff that the Democrats haven't (sadly) been brave enough to try to change for future generations.

    Also-- if you could please point out what American citizens have been sent to Gitmo for political protests, please do so.

    ~String
     
  12. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    Focusing on the Electoral College misses the point. I (like many, many others) suspect that Gore actually won the Electoral College (or would have if the Florida recounts had been finished).

    From justice Stevens dissent:
     
  13. superstring01 Moderator

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    How many Justices who have a LONG history of service to the nation, disagreed with Stephens? Do their decisions get any less notice or respect because they were in the majority, decided in favor of Bush and are Republicans?

    ~String
     
  14. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    The obvious answer is seven. Bush V Gore stinks to high heaven (and still would if the outcome had been the opposite). It should have been left to Florida to sort out on its own.
     
  15. countezero Registered Senior Member

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    Actually, Gore lost most of the recounts. Wikipedia has a pretty good section detailing all the "full" counts. Gore won some of them, when extreme measures were applied, but I think most reasonable counts went to Bush.

    As for you and the other "truthers" comments about 9/11, well, they are disgusting and stupid. 9/11 was the most scrutinized event in recent history. The sort of action and cover-up you allege not only runs in the face of the actual science of the event, it's also downright foolish.

    You also seem to confuse the concept of freedom of speech with the practice of going to a public event and behaving like an ass. Let me be plain. The two have nothing to do with each other. In other words, freedom of speech does not equal disruption. In fact, disruption is in many places against the law. Get a clue.
     
  16. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    Wikipedia also has this:
    That would have Gore winning, so I guess it does not count as "reasonable".

    There might have been a great deal of discontent about the outcome if Florida had been left to sort it out for themselves. But I cannot believe it would have resulted in the long term distrust that having the SCOTUS step in and settle it for them has had.
     
  17. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Personally, I think the overvotes should have been counted. I can't see why that would discredit the vote. It's for the same guy.
     
  18. countezero Registered Senior Member

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    First, that wasn't requested, as the entry explicitly states. How can the counters count what the Gore people didn't even want counted. Second, overvotes would never stand up in court, which is probably why they weren't requested in the first place. Those sorts of ballots are kicked out in every election. So yes, you found one unreasonable scenario where Gore won. Congrats.
     
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  20. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    It's common practice to not count overvotes. I believe that's called a spoiled ballot. If you accidently vote twice, you're supposed to request another ballot and vote again.

    PS I can't believe this is still being debated. Gore is an asshole for dragging out the election the way he did. Had he accepted the results, he would have been seen as a statesman putting the interests of the country above his own and could probably have come back and won the next time around or in 08.

    That's what Nixon did. And he did come back and win a couple years later. Is it too much to ask for our modern politicians to at least meet the standards set by Richard Nixon?
     
  21. countezero Registered Senior Member

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    It's not being debated. It's being whined about a handful of kook, conspiracy-theorists who can't square their lives with reality, so they think there's something wrong with reality and not their lives. This 9/11 "truth" business is merely the latest episode of dementia, though it's particularly disturbing/pathetic, in my opinion.
     
  22. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Please present your best piece of visual evidence of a plane hitting the Pentagon. And I'll show you the meaning of Dementia. Better yet, please provide one video of the alleged Hi-jackers boarding the planes on 911. And please provide an official atutopsy that shows the Hi-jackers were on the plane. Yeah, lets talk dementia.
     
  23. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    And it also states that the presiding Florida judge might have counted them. But he wasn't allowed, because the SCOTUS interfered. I'm glad your legal expertise supersedes that of the judge in question.

    If someone has voted for the candidate of their choice, then written it in as well, disqualifying that vote seems wrong to me. There is no doubt of their intention.
     

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