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View Full Version : Bees can recognize human faces, study finds
worldsci 12-10-05, 07:34 AM Honeybees may look pretty much all alike to us. But it seems we may not look all alike to them. A study has found that they can learn to recognize human faces in photos, and remember them for at least two days. (Article in World Science (http://www.world-science.net))
http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/051209_beesfrm.htm
Hello,
Two cancepts can be relavent, if Bees are able to recognize:-
In case of live face:- Body's biochemistry & bio-magnetism/aura and Reflection of face by its colours/wavelengths and spectrum/dimentions of face.
In case of photo:- just Reflection from photo by somewhat similar colours/wavelengths and spectrum/dimentions of face.
Best wishes.
Kumar
This is pure speculation and possibly only just a coinciedence and we do not know the facts behind how they conducted this experiments, i.e., what variables were involved, how many bees, their influence, etc.
"Two bees tested two days after the initial training retained the information in long-term memory. One scored about 94 percent on the first day and 79 percent two days later; the second bee’s score dropped from about 87 to 76 percent during the same time frame....The bees probably don’t understand what a human face is, Dyer said in an email. “To the bees the faces were spatial patterns (or strange looking flowers)."
kenworth 12-23-05, 07:30 AM filed securely under "who the fuck cares".im sorry but really,who funds this crap?
Euler is my Hero 12-26-05, 01:24 AM Kenworth, I agree with you that this finding may not be incredibly important and it most likely won't have major ramifications in the science world, but I say the more we know about how the world works, the better. Plus, don't you think it's fascinating that a tiny, monotonous creature is capable of recognizing and remembering facial patterns in humans? It may be insignificant, but it's still cool.
kenworth 12-26-05, 06:51 AM yes its kinda cool but i seriously hope this was privately funded research.also i dont really like bees,they're kinda weird.
I don't think that the researchers presented their findings in a scientific objective way. They are saying "facial patterns" where the difference may only be in shape, color, or even smell. I don't consider this experiment as being very scientific because they did not control all the variables.
Anyone remember that movie with Tom Selleck and Gene Simmons where he'd shoot a bullet that tracked down a person like a homing missle? Heh, watch out for the BEE-BULLET! Bees with jetpacks on and small explosives to track down and kill their enemy. :p
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mountainhare 12-26-05, 09:36 PM kenworth:
also i dont really like bees,they're kinda weird.
You have a bee phobia, eh?
Heh, I just saw this and it reminded me of this thread so I gotta share it:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2005-12-26-wasps-terrorism_x.htm
Posted 12/26/2005 9:59 PM Updated 12/26/2005 10:35 PM
Scientists recruit wasps for war on terror
By Mimi Hall, USA TODAY
Scientists at a Georgia laboratory have developed what could be a low-tech, low-cost weapon in the war on terrorism: trained wasps.
The tiny, non-stinging wasps can check for hidden explosives at airports and monitor for toxins in subway tunnels.
"You can rear them by the thousands, and you can train them within a matter of minutes," says Joe Lewis, a U.S. Agriculture Department entomologist. "This is just the very tip of the iceberg of a very new resource."
Lewis and others at the University of Georgia-Tifton Campus developed a handheld "Wasp Hound" to contain the wasps while they sniff out chemicals and other substances.
Lewis and his partner, University of Georgia biological engineer Glen Rains, say their device is ready for pilot tests and could be available for commercial use in five to 10 years.
Rains says the wasps could one day be used instead of dogs to check for explosives in cargo containers coming in to the nation's seaports, in vehicles crossing at border checkpoints, at airports and anywhere else where security should be tight.
"It's real easy to learn how to work with them," he says about the wasps. "You could show somebody what to do in 30 to 40 minutes. And they're very specific in what they learn."
This new method comes as the government has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on high-tech equipment and training since 9/11 to secure the nation from another terrorist attack.
Bomb-sniffing dogs cost thousands of dollars and take months to train. High-tech equipment can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars per unit and often has spotty performance.
"We don't have portable, flexible systems," Lewis says.
Scientists started working with the species, a type of parasitic wasp called Microplitis croceipes, decades ago — long before the terrorist attacks in 2001.
In the 1990s, the Defense Department paid for part of that work to find out whether wasps could be used for a variety of defense purposes, including sniffing out land mines. They couldn't do that well because the areas they would have to check are too vast.
The scientists — funded by the Agriculture Department and the University of Georgia — have looked at other uses for the wasps.
Rains says the wasps can be trained to detect fungal diseases on crops while the damage is still below ground and can't be seen.
This method would help farmers avoid having to spread toxic fungicide over an entire crop after the disease spreads. Rains says farmers would save money, and consumers and the environment would benefit as well.
The wasps may also be trained for medical uses, including detecting cancer or ulcers by smelling someone's breath.
They probably can be trained like dogs to find bodies buried in rubble, Rains says.
Given the strong government effort since 9/11 to focus on the nation's security, the scientists see a vast market for the wasps to detect explosives.
The wasps are trained with sugar water by using the classical conditioning techniques made famous by Pavlov's dogs. Rains says the wasps are sensitive to a host of chemical odors, including 2,4-DNT, a volatile compound used in dynamite.
To do their work, five wasps — each a half-inch long — are placed in a plastic cylinder that is 15 inches tall. This "Wasp Hound," which costs roughly $100 per unit, has a vent in one end and a camera that connects to a laptop computer.
When the wasps pick up an odor they've been trained to detect they gather by the vent — a response that can be measured by the computer or actually seen by observers.
Lewis says the wasps, when exposed to some chemicals, "can detect as low as four parts per billion, which is an incredibly small amount."
He says the "ability to capture nature and its marvels is ... revolutionary."
Rains says, "The sensitivity of animals (and insects) to chemicals in general is probably beyond what we can comprehend. We don't really know what the limits are."
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kenworth 12-30-05, 09:20 PM kenworth:
You have a bee phobia, eh?
not so much a phobia they are just weird.its always fun imagining what they are thinking...anyway,i recently started doing a thing where every animal i see i try to imagine it as if im seeing it for the first time,like ive landed on an alien planet.try it.bees are WEIRD.furry,yellow and black stripes,clear wings,big eyes,kinda round.WEIRD WEIRD WEIRD.
mountainhare 12-31-05, 04:12 AM kenworth:
animal i see i try to imagine it as if im seeing it for the first time,like ive landed on an alien planet.try it.bees are WEIRD.furry,yellow and black stripes,clear wings,big eyes,kinda round.WEIRD WEIRD WEIRD.
ROFLMAO!
I think that the platypus is far weirder, personally.
kenworth 12-31-05, 04:17 AM this is true.most animals are very very strange when you think about it.especially insects.
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