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CounslerCoffee 12-04-03, 01:25 PM Battlestar Gallacitica returns to TV next week. This monday scifi channel will be airing the first hour of the hour long miniseries. Of course, some fans are horrible upset with this "remake". Below are some differences between the show and the remake.
Well, I was going to list them. But a URL will have to work instead...
http://www.battlestargalactica.com/kobol/primer.php
Actually, cancel that. That website just got slashdotted. If anyone can get to it let me know by posting the differences here.
Ah hell, heres what we know already:
-The Cylons look human and have human feelings.
-The series is no longer about finding a mythical Earth.
-Starbuck is female.
Comments?
Pollux V 12-04-03, 01:59 PM The new one looks like it sucks. The old one really, really sucked.
Need I say more?
pragmathen 12-04-03, 02:29 PM I generally remember watching the old one as a kid in between Gomer Pyle and I Love Lucy.
I did catch SciFi's behind-the-scenes event for Battlestar Galactica just recently.
I'm no expert on this show, but the changes they've made really tee me off to a point. It's like they've taken the easy way out any chance they got.
The Cylons are human? That was what was cool about the original. It left it ambiguousare they human or machine? Both? Now that they're (genetically altered) humans, I just automatically think, "Oh great, another space soap-opera between humans essentially." It looks like these Cylons have a <i>Species</i>-esque nature to them as well. Which is by no means a compliment.
And they're no longer trying to find a mythical Earth. That was what made them (as well as Star Wars people) so endearing. Here's a group of people that are like us, trying to find <i>us</i>. Maybe not specifically but it made you feel like that when you watched it.
Starbuck being a chick is just the ultimate easiest way out of something. They mentioned they wanted to explore the aspect of Starbuck being attracted to Apollo, so they had to make one of them female. This isn't necessarily a bad thing to do, except they chose to do it in the most cliché manner available. Here's a sample brainstorm that most likely took place:
All right, Starbuck is a girl. Now we have to set her apart as being a badass. What do badasses do? They smoke cigars. Done. They participate in bar-room brawls while playing poker with other guys. Done. They wear muscle shirts constantly. Done. They're brunette. Doner....hold on a sec, there. How about blonde?
They've pulled the same stunt which was repeated in Attack of the Clones. Why <i>not</i> have Anakin and Obi-Wan actually be best friends? Wouldn't that make the tension between them and the eventual switch to the dark side be that much more palpable? And so the same with Starbuck and Apollo. Though they don't eventually turn on each other, they have a good enough relationship that would play out on the series as watching out for the other. Has there been a series where two heteros have a tight, tight relationship where one cares for the other's well-being and vice-versa? Of course not.
When it comes to this new incarnation of Battlestar, which part of T & A do you not understand?
BigBlueHead 12-04-03, 03:49 PM Pragmathen: The art of subtlety is so lost to modern cinema that it is hard to believe that any presence of it in the past was anything other than an accident.
Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi would probably have been more convincing Jedi if they hadn't spent so much time throwing tantrums and generally being really frickin' angry all the time.
At the beginning of this last season of Enterprise the makers announced that T'Pol was going to "explore her feelings", which apparently translated in their mind to her rolling around in her underwear a lot... she's nice in her underwear and all, but it was pretty unfair to her character.
If, by your mention of Species, you mean that the Cylons are going to run around raping people with huge, iron penis tentacles, I wouldn't be surprised if you were right... although I guess there might be a ratings problem, I seem to recall that they showed Londo's huge fake penis on Babylon 5, so maybe not.
Subtlety is dead in television.
Clockwood 12-05-03, 02:05 PM I am positive that the new Battlestar Galactica will be no great work of art but with the absolute crap permiating the networks it will seem like it. There are only a handfull of shows currently running that I can bear to watch and unless it makes my eyes bleed Battlestar Galctica will find its way onto my list.
Oh... and only some specially designed infiltration Cylons will look human. Most are quite scary looking.
gnasher 03-11-04, 05:11 PM (Makes sure nobody's looking)
I liked it!
(Runs for hills)
SpyMoose 03-11-04, 05:21 PM Really if you take out all the questing for earth thing why even call it battlestar galactica? The cylons are different, the characters are different, the premise is different, space operas get pretty derivative anyway, why the heck not call it something else. I would prefer to see another crack at Space Above and Beyond, then battlestar Galactica. Maybe its just that im too young and spoiled but the episodes of Galactia I have caught are barely watchable. Also, huge cop out there making starbuck a girl in order to explore the sexual tension between him and Apollo. Why is the future always devoid of homosexuals? Does something happen to us?
2 questions:
1. did "Battlestar Galactica" ever reveal the home planet of the crew? Is it the Earth? :confused:
2. how the hell did they choose "kobol"?
I suppose that comes from the traditional computer language "cobol" back in the Sixties, does it? :D
Uhm...I remember us talking about this some time ago and I remember my shock at finding out that Starbuck is a female now...but now I;ve just found out that Boomer is also a female too! An Asian one at that too...what have they done!! The film or something or other was on Sky Movies here a few weeks back...when's the series out over here anyway?
And all I remember about Earth being the home planet is that they found it and it was 1980 and some guy with a huge neck was one of the main characters...and Starbuck had a son didn't he? The Prodigy...or something. When he was stranded on a planet and he fixed a Cylon who became his only friend and then 'Judgement Day' came. Ye gads that was a while ago. Stop working brain...STOP IT!!!
Uhm...I remember us talking about this some time ago and I remember my shock at finding out that Starbuck is a female now...but now I;ve just found out that Boomer is also a female too! An Asian one at that too...what have they done!! The film or something or other was on Sky Movies here a few weeks back...when's the series out over here anyway?
And all I remember about Earth being the home planet is that they found it and it was 1980 and some guy with a huge neck was one of the main characters...and Starbuck had a son didn't he? The Prodigy...or something. When he was stranded on a planet and he fixed a Cylon who became his only friend and then 'Judgement Day' came. Ye gads that was a while ago. Stop working brain...STOP IT!!!
@Thor
The most logical explanation for Starbuck and Boomer being females now is that they are other characters (next generation) in the now series and fore-names "starbuck" and "boomer" use to be un-sexual in that culture.
Obviously, the authors of the new series want to make it more attractive by adding new female characters...
"Diana Vincent"... what about it:
I guess even a remake of "Invaders" would be more interesting if the main character, formerly David Vincent, became a good-looking "Diana Vincent"... :)
No! Nooooooo!!! Make the bad person stop!!! :'(
Lemming3k 03-18-04, 07:46 PM Im a big fan of some old sci-fi, even though without the repeats i'd be too young to ever know it existed, and i think battlestar gallactica(the original) was great, even compared to some modern sci-fi, it seemed quite simple, and had some action to it, i watched it many times though i dont remember much about characters or anything as it hasnt been on recently and my heads been filled with star trek rubbish.....
Anyway, you may continue to educate the uneducated. :)
OCMORMON 04-07-04, 01:51 PM 2. how the hell did they choose "kobol"?
Had something to do with the writer, Glen Larson, being Mormon and a little nod to "KOLOB" which is in LDS theology.
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