View Full Version : Bass Guitar. why does noone want to play?


Captain_Crunch
07-02-02, 08:12 AM
i'm proud to say that i play bass guitar. it is a dying art-form. Now a days everyone wants to play guitar. why? because it is cool?
the bass is the foundations to any band. Does anyone out there play bass or am i the only one?

Tyler
07-02-02, 10:06 AM
I can play, but I choose guitar. Why? I enjoy playing lead. I use to play drums and I sucked because all I wanted to do was lead the song. Guitar allows me to do that in awsome ways. I'm not great at bass, so I was never too good at leading a song by bass. Also; Leo Kottke, Jimmy Hendrix, CCR......

fadingCaptain
07-02-02, 11:31 AM
Some people can naturally play bass, some guitar. Go with what you are good at. My bro can play bass, I can play guitar. Of course, we both can play either instrument....but he is a much better bass player & I am better at guitar. I think it has something to do with rhythm vs. melody. He is also a good drummer...you have to be able to keep time to play bass.

Everyone wants to play guitar because you can sing a song & play an acoustic all by your lonesome and it sounds good. Nobody else is needed.

Captain_Crunch
07-02-02, 02:58 PM
Everyone wants to play guitar because you can sing a song & play an acoustic all by your lonesome and it sounds good. Nobody else is needed.
i agree with you here.
this means there are a shortage of bassists and drummers so if i get really good it means i'll not find it difficult to get into a band. :D

fadingCaptain
07-02-02, 05:04 PM
Absolutely. My band is looking for a bassist or a drummer!

Tiassa
07-02-02, 05:09 PM
Actually, there's something about musical roots there. Certes, the guitar has become more glamorous than the bass guitar, but something to consider:

• Rock and roll does not require a tremendous amount of talent or skill to equal glamour. Example: say what you want about Nirvana, but considering their drummer, for instance, is one of the best in the game (Dave Grohl) and that Herbie Hancock has covered Cobain's "All Apologies" on his album New Standards should help the point. Look at Nirvana, and look at the flood of often-talentless imitators that rushed to their garages to bang out three chords after hearing "Teen Spirit".

• Bearing that in mind, what does this say about the bassist, whose job sometimes seems easier?

However, truly good bands always have a rock-solid rhythm section; the passing of John Entwistle gives us a moment to consider that. In the wave of platitudes rising in the wake of his death, many people I know said, "Who?" and I said, "Well?" People don't like to play the bass because they don't think of it as glamorous. When VH-1 noted that he "may be" the "best bassist in rock history", everyone I know chuckled, but there was a scary number of people who were really confused.

For instance, Pink Floyd. Even those of us who adore albums like Dark Side and such know that Roger Waters was never a particularly great bassist, but as we see him building his musical repertoire over the years, we see him (A) getting that much better, and (B) making the bass that much more relevant to the growing complexity of the sound. When I heard Roger play Money on the In The Flesh Tour (I do recommend the CD) I looked at a bassist friend of mine and said, "That sounds wrong." He laughed and said, "That's because for the first time in your life you're hearing the song played in time." Schaffner's Saucerful of Secrets points out somewhere (no page citation at this time) that Roger Waters was always ahead of the beat, and Nick Mason was always behind the beat; Richard Wright had no beat, and David Gilmour was the only real musician in the group. I am,in fact, listening to Money at the moment, from the Lp, and there is a lack of precision that does, in fact, contribute to Pink Floyd's musical attractiveness.

But really, really good bassists are usually bassists of necessity. That is, most of the bassists I know are classically-trained 'cello players, and all are relatively good with other instruments. A couple of them are performing all instruments on their own albums. It's really hard to be a good bassist, and I think what happens in the rock world is that young players don't like the idea of standing there counting out 4/4. Look how many people were impressed by Les Claypool. How many of the spastic bassists that I've seen come since can keep time? Dexterity is one thing, but timekeeping is more important when you're a bassist. The exception to this seems to be Rob Wynia, of Floater, who, during the shows supporting Glyph, would frequently open songs with improvised bass tantrums, some of which put Claypool to shame. Rob can also keep time like a demon if he needs. But Rob has also learned to pull the bass away from the rhythm-keeping (though it does still serve that function) and make it a melodic contributor.

Very often, in bands of legitimate talent, the bassist is the best and most diverse musician of the bunch. When you are a young bassist just grabbing your instrument to bang out 4/4 in your garage, it doesn't seem like an attractive prospect compared to other things you could be doing in the band. But no truly good band can rise without a truly good bassist, and even if that's all you ever learn to do, well, your band can't make it without you.

Which shows a certain distress among musicians. At an all-ages concert in Seattle last year, when Floater played Milk of Heaven, the reaction among the youngsters was different. At restricted shows, people usually hollered in approval at the first tones of the song, but the kids were reduced to silence. It was awe. They'd never heard and known they were hearing what Dave was doing before, which was simply using an e-bow (http://www.ebow.com/) on an electric guitar. Standing directly in front of me was a trio of punks who had bragged to girls before the show about being in a band. One turned to the other with this astounded look on his face and said, "What the hell is that?" His bandmate replied "E-bow." The amazed boy turned and said, "Do you know where to get one?" Later discussions revealed that hte amazed boy was the band's bassist. His world had changed. Having watched a good bassist live, from fifteen feet away (as opposed to a functional bassist at an arena show from hundreds of feet away), he suddenly understood that his life was not dull and boring and a curse of counting 4/4 for the rest of his life. The young bassist even said to his band, "We can do this." One of his mates said, "Right, with three people and some fuzzboxes." The bassist just stopped, right in front of me, gently begged my pardon--for he was about to make a point--and turned around to face the front of the club we were exiting. He just held out his hand in a sweeping gesture that I greatly appreciate seeing in youth. He reminded his bandmate: What did we just see and hear? The bassist suddenly understood that life was not merely keeping time while the drummer plays the insane man and the guitarist prances around like a queen.

Jack Blades, of Night Ranger, once told Circus magazine (anyone remember Circus?) that he was originally a guitarist, but in his school there were probably 100 guitarists in 100 bands, and not a single bass player. He took up bass, got himself a gig, and spent the rest of his life keeping bad time; the last I heard of him, he penned a song for Tommy Shaw's (former Styx guitarist) 1998 album 7 Deadly Zens. The song was a throwback of about ten or twelve years at that point. Blades, a practical but lesser-skilled (comparatively) bassist, spent his life keeping drudgery time.

Listen to the bass lines in radio-popular rock and roll. They're mostly bland, dimensionless, and intended to be more cool than to have a musical purpose.

But things are changing; the rise of Les Claypool (Primus), and the undeniable force of Ben Shepard (Soundgarden), among others, showed that Jason Newstead (Metallica) was not the highest aspiration of bassists.

Mudhoney, Soundgarden, Floater, Nirvana ... we've been blessed in Seattle with good bassists. What young or new bass player really wants to do the line from AiC's Man in the Box? On the other hand, what new or young bass player is capable of playing the bass line from Stevie Wonder's Superstition?

As more and more truly good bass players rise to the forefront (especially in the coming decline of major labels and their fad bands) means that there will most likely be a greater number of aspiring young bassists, which will also result in more good bass players rising from that flock.

And one of the positive things is that anyone can pick out their own list of good bassists. You'll note I've invoked no less than five bands from the Pacific Northwest; these are the most immediate examples to mind.

When we stop to think about truly good bassists, they are, in fact, out there. We just don't see or hear them as often as we would like because the bulk of music broadcast to the masses is talentless and shallow.

How many absolutely awesome bassists got lost in the progressive soul movement that eventually resulted in disco and the rise of hip-hop? We tend, when drawing the line of "black music" to think in terms of inane 808 kickdrums and overriding bass tones, but the rhythmic heritage of that "black music" (I'm not a fan of the term) includes some stellar bassists who I don't ever hear about in the domestic music press. That is, I need Mojo or Q magazine before I can read about Sly & the Family Stone and other such bands with any reliability or regularity. Check in with the Motown and Decca bassists; there are some gems buried there.

Incidentally, if you need an argument to show the damage of pop culture, bassists are a great example. As a young metalhead growing up in the 80s, Led Zeppelin was the best thing to grace the earth, and that was the paramount of rock and roll. Think, for instance, of the band Godsmack. Any band treating a similarly-established distinct sound in such a sycophantic, imitative manner used to be condemned. (How many people remember Kingdom Come, ridiculed in fame because they sounded like Zep rip-offs, or Havana Black who never really broke despite decent songs because people thought they sounded like Bad Company?) Many of the rock bassists playing today came from that environment, and it is only in the age of digital information exchange that musicians are able to break en masse the bonds of localization. I have to admit that when I started reading Mojo, I laughed at it. Over time, though, the prejudices toward certain music forms which invoked that laughter has disappeared. The point has been made, so to speak.

I'm listening to Radiohead's OK Computer for bass lines now. Young and new bassists, I would assert, have much, much more information available to them.

Myself, I know a few instruments. I played trumpet for a number of years in school bands, which killed my enthusiasm for performing music. A tragedy, that. In the meantime, I know a handful of disparate, overused guitar chords, and can play some basic bass lines (including, given a moment to gather myself, Boston's "Long Time"), but since the "band" that lives in the house is more interested in playing a certain form of pop that doesn't quite interest me, I never do spend any time with them. I haven't gotten the hang of a drum kit, yet. Walking and chewing gum.

In the meantime, Carol Kaye discusses Brian Wilson and other topics (http://abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/carolkay.htm). Enjoy.

thanx,
Tiassa :cool:

NightFall
07-03-02, 12:25 AM
ive always wanted to learn bass.. i had a few lessons from a friend of mine.... but i never had enough money to buy one of my own.... i begged and begged my parents for a bass for christmas.. they bought me an acoustic. and a really lousy one at that. i dont think they even understood the difference. :(

Captain_Crunch
07-03-02, 12:10 PM
i've only been playing bass for about a month, i know this guy who has been playing for a year and everyone that ive talked to says i'm better than him already. Although i have always been good at keeping beat. Its not the most exciting instrument out there and probally guitar would be much more 'fun' but i love bass (thats all that matters :D ) and the benefits of playing bass will arive once i try to make into a band. I havnt tryed any other instruments.
When people see the bass guitar they are like: "wheres the other 2 strings?" and stand there in amasement "that aint a guitar", little do they know it plays a big part in maintaining rythm and sound of all those bands out there. They act as if they have never seen one or indeed heard one ever before. (they probally havnt i dont know)
Its really hard to find drummers too.

goofyfish
07-03-02, 01:14 PM
John Entwistle (The Who), Les Claypoole (Primus), Jeff Berlin,
John Taylor (Duran Duran), Cliff Burton (Metallica)... who else?

You Killed Jesus
07-03-02, 03:20 PM
Dan Lilker (Brutal Truth/Nuclear Assault/SOD), Tony Choy (Atheist/Cynic/Pestilence, plus a bunch of other bands), Roger Patterson (Atheist as well)

Great bassists there. Yup.

Tyler
07-03-02, 03:20 PM
Entwistle's my fav. The Who were just great musicians. Daltry had an awsome voice, Thownsend was one of the best guitarists, Moon was a wild drummer and Entwistle was an extremely talented bassist.

Anyway, Captian you might want to try your hand at something like Cello. I played for a while and it's an excellent, excellent instrument if you know how to play it.

fadingCaptain
07-03-02, 03:41 PM
i'd have to say paul mc. listen to the bass in 'something'! incredible. of course, he took after carol kay who was also great. theres a song called 'turn down day' by an old band called cyrkle that has the coolest bass lines.

ratbat
07-03-02, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by goofyfish
John Entwistle (The Who), Les Claypoole (Primus), Jeff Berlin,
John Taylor (Duran Duran), Cliff Burton (Metallica)... who else?


Stanley Clarke & That guy from Man-O-War ( I forget his name. )

Captain_Crunch
07-04-02, 07:35 AM
Anyway, Captian you might want to try your hand at something like Cello. I played for a while and it's an excellent, excellent instrument if you know how to play it.
you mean those big things that look like violins but bigger? :D
i dont know if i could afford one of those, i'm out of pocket from buying my bass at the moment. Ibanez GSR200. i love ma bass.
http://64.95.118.51/images/ext/inst/385/instElectric_BassesGSR200.jpg

BloodSuckingGerbile
07-04-02, 02:32 PM
Cliff Burton is definitely the greatest bass player the world has ever known... too bad he's dead. He had a music degree, you know.

I play guitar but when I tried to play Burtons' Pulling Teeth bass solo at school I got it pretty good.
It's a great solo. Learn to play it, all the bass players out there!

P.S. Did you hear that John Entwistle died? :(

The world is loosing bass players!!! :mad:

eli81k
02-26-03, 03:39 AM
No one mentioned Matt Freeman (of Opp Ivy and then Rancid). A lot of people snub him because he commits the sin of playing with a pick. If you've never bothered to get around to it, the Rancid song Detroit is a good standard of Freeman's playing.

And also the Pixies' Kim Deal does more with less than most bassists I can think of. How many times has the bassline from Gigantic been stuck in my head? And everyone knows the bassline to the song Cannonball from her side project the Breeders.

I too, referencing past posts, started playing bass because every I knew played guitar. It was an easy way to make sure I was always in a band, and my services were appreciated. However, the longer I play, the more I like it.

Bass and drums, the rhythm section, is where it is at. Guitars are just ambient noise, and if you don't believe me, listen to how great Q And Not U are.

wet1
02-26-03, 04:11 AM
It is harder to play a bass without accompanyment. It is far easier to play a six string without the same.

For whatever reason, the bass never appealed to me. Give me the six or twelve and I am a happy camper.

RDT2
02-26-03, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by wet1

For whatever reason, the bass never appealed to me. Give me the six or twelve and I am a happy camper.

I once played bass in a band - and wish I'd kept it up. This from 'Guitarist' magazine:

Letter to editor: 'My mate Steve is an ace guitarist and I'm shite. What should I do?'

Reply from editor: 'Buy a bass guitar and a 'Beatles' songbook - you'll never be out of work.'

Cheers,

Ron.

http://www.mech.gla.ac.uk/~rthomson

blocalsteve
02-27-03, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by fadingCaptain
Everyone wants to play guitar because you can sing a song & play an acoustic all by your lonesome and it sounds good. Nobody else is needed.

True, but I did see the female bass player who plays with Paul Weller do a solo spot once, singing to her own bass guitar accompaniment. Somehow less was more on that occasion.

ralph nader
02-28-03, 04:42 PM
i agree. the bass provides the rumble in the back. in addition to that, it is good for accenting the drums.

Nightpoet
02-28-03, 07:07 PM
I don't play bass, I play acoustic guitar really really badly and I just picked it up cause i missed playing flute. But I do know four bassists! They are out there!

valentino
03-01-03, 11:51 PM
Given the choice between a guitar and a bass, most will choose the guitar for the glam factor. If you're the lead guitarist, you ge all the chicks, am I right? Hell, I wanted to play guitar for the longest time cause they're just sexy. However, I ultimately chose the bass because I can be in my pick of bands. Everyone needs a new bass player. And drums . . . well I think more people would play them if they weren't such an expensive instrument.

JOHANNsebastianBACH
03-03-03, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by Captain_Crunch
i'm proud to say that i play bass guitar. it is a dying art-form. Now a days everyone wants to play guitar. why? because it is cool?
the bass is the foundations to any band. Does anyone out there play bass or am i the only one?

Have you ever tried to play bass and melody at the same time. I play classical guitar. mostley bach. i also play blues and death metal, cannibal corpse, deicide stuff. Zake wyild is the greatest electric guitar player in the world, and ANDREAS SEGOVIA is the greatest guitar player in the world.

http://www.medusa.u-net.com/segovia/segovia.jpg http://a1568.g.akamai.net/7/1568/1600/20011206004540/images.launch.yahoo.com/000/003/494/3494923.jpg

Bachus
03-03-03, 02:28 PM
This saturday i will get my 1st lesson in guitar playing :)

Too bad there's not an awfull lot of left guitars on the market it seems :(

(Q)
03-03-03, 04:32 PM
When playing by yourself for your own enjoyment or for your family and friends, a bass just doesn’t seem to cut it. Nor do drums. A guitar or keyboards are more effective and enjoyable.

When looking for work, guitarists and drummers are a dime a dozen. Bass players on the other hand, especially good ones, are very rare. Most good bass players never have trouble finding steady work.

So if you’re a budding musician and you want to work, make sure you spend a few hundred dollars on a decent bass guitar and learn how to play it properly. It will help to keep Kraft dinner in the house when times are lean. ;)

Slacker47
03-03-03, 10:17 PM
Johann,

Do you like Opeth? I truely envy your fusion between genres. Not amny people exist that can transcend the utter differences in music. People always ask me what my favorite type of music is, and I always respond that I listen to every bit of music that I can get my hands on, and I could never choose.

Anyway, thanks for keeping an open mind in music. Segovia is fucking good, although the Romero family kicks out the jams.

JOHANNsebastianBACH
03-04-03, 12:26 AM
thank you slak

I really wish i had time to play the piano. i would like to be able to play Rachmonanov's 3rd piano concerto before I die.

AWC
06-11-03, 12:06 PM
I don't think it's completely accurate that no one wants to play bass. I have have a number of friends that play bass. However, a huge number of people play guitar. Have played bass for a few years now and it is definitely my favorite instrument and, unlike many people, I do not find it boring. I love playing bass! Perhaps this is because I have drawn inspiration from such excellent solo bassists as Jaco Pastorius and Stu Hamm. I don't know about the rest of you, but I will never stop playing bass. By the way, Tyler, I used to play the cello and I agree that is is a great istrument.

AWC
06-11-03, 12:11 PM
Whoever said you can't play bass by yourself? It is a blast to just sit down and rock out, playing some funky slap and cool jazz. It is not difficult make melodies on the bass.

Captain_Crunch
06-11-03, 04:56 PM
man, this thread is so old.
yeh, its easy to get a tune out a bass guitar but is it as easy to keep a rock solid rythem section?

Closet Philosopher
06-11-03, 05:37 PM
Right now, I'm learning the acoustic guitar, but I have really always wantes to play the bass. In a couple of months, when I get enough money, I will shop for a used bass and amp. any suggestions?

JOHANNsebastianBACH
06-12-03, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by Slacker47
Johann,
Anyway, thanks for keeping an open mind in music. Segovia is fucking good, although the Romero family kicks out the jams.

good old Pe-pe

JOHANNsebastianBACH
06-12-03, 02:08 AM
2 other gentleman and I have started playing music together, and all of us play the guitar. Right now we play without a drummer and bass player. Our music is performable without the use of bass and drums, since all of our songs have different guitar parts. I play Lead guitar on a Classical Guitar, Aaron strums his Acoustic Guitar while he sings, and Drew plays hella good rhythms on an Acoustic Guitar. I move to Electric for blues solos and more Rockier music with a light ~~dist~~. We have been looking for a bassist and drummer for a week. So far it looks like we will be going acoustic for a while. I don’t even know anybody that is learning drums or bass as a beginner.

Captain_Crunch
06-12-03, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by ILikeSalt
Right now, I'm learning the acoustic guitar, but I have really always wantes to play the bass. In a couple of months, when I get enough money, I will shop for a used bass and amp. any suggestions?

Ibanez make some good starter basses. I dont even know what amp to get because there are so many amps out there.
If you want a proper bass i recommend a Fender.

AWC
06-12-03, 09:36 AM
As far as basses go, Warwicks are very good. If you have the money, I recommend the FNA Jazzman. However, I really like Fender Jazz basses.

Mephura
06-12-03, 11:54 AM
I may have missed this, but I didn't see this mentioned in the thread yet.

Yeah, there are some techniques that are used more prevalently on a bass, but learning guitar pretty much means learning bass too.

standard tuning on a 6 string EADGBE
standard tuning on a bass EADG

The notes don't magically move or anything.
Once you learn scales on a 6 string, its a fairly easy transition to bass. You already know how things fit together.

xxdemonxx
07-01-03, 11:28 AM
i use to play guitar but one day i went to buy a new guitar and i started playing with a bass and i ended up leaving with a bass

JOHANNsebastianBACH
07-02-03, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by Mephura
I may have missed this, but I didn't see this mentioned in the thread yet.

Yeah, there are some techniques that are used more prevalently on a bass, but learning guitar pretty much means learning bass too.

standard tuning on a 6 string EADGBE
standard tuning on a bass EADG

The notes don't magically move or anything.
Once you learn scales on a 6 string, its a fairly easy transition to bass. You already know how things fit together.

I completely agree with this statement. I play the guitar and there is nothing that an average bassist can play that I would be unable to learn in a couple of days or even minutes. But the average bassist is unable to play what an average guitarist can play without practicing for months sometimes years. Also I am not talking about bassists that have taken it to extreme levels of performance like Claypool, but just your average bassist.

I personally believe every guitar player should purchase a bass and learn it so they can almost be guaranteed a job in music. Then maybe you can bust out the guitar sometime and show-up the current guitarist. The band just might make you the new lead guitar player and kick the former guitar player to the bass or out on the street.

Guyute
07-02-03, 11:09 PM
I am also proud to say that i play bass.......i love the sound and feel privilaged to be one of the few who play it......it is a dying art and needs to be revived. I predict that in a couple of years it will be the most popular instrument played.well, that is what i think at least:D

JOHANNsebastianBACH
07-03-03, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by Guyute
I am also proud to say that i play bass.......i love the sound and feel privilaged to be one of the few who play it......it is a dying art and needs to be revived. I predict that in a couple of years it will be the most popular instrument played.well, that is what i think at least:D

How the hell does a dying art form become the most popular form in a couple of years?

The bass guitar will never be the most popular instrument. The only way the bass guitar would ever be the most popular instrument is if all of the pop groups eliminate the guitar and use only bass guitars in their songs. Only then will every young newcomer buy a bass instead of a guitar.

Guyute - I Believe, since you play the bass, you would like to think the bass will be the instrument of choice someday. You and I know that will never happen at least in America and Europe. Instead you should state that you "WISH" it would be the most popular instrument not that you actually think it will be the most popular.

I don't mean to sound rude or anti bass guitar but history and music show that bass, especially in classical music, is never the main part nor will ever the main part of a piece of music, unless of course someone composes a bass concerto. I’ve thought about someday composing a bass concerto myself.

Guyute
07-03-03, 01:31 AM
Music is evolving everyday. Bass is being used more, and more frequentally. Unless you can predict the future dont be so quick in your assumptions..........(never say never)anything is possible.
Sorry if i am sounding rude.:rolleyes:

AWC
07-03-03, 09:13 AM
JOHANNsebastianbach
It was very ignorant to say that guitarists can easily learn bass parts but it is much harder for bassists to learn guitar parts. Of course, if a part is easy enough, then anyone can learn easily learn it, but the same is true for guitar. Bass and guitar are less similar than you may think, and guitarists are by no means more talented than bassists.

Also, there was no reason to respond to guyute's comment so harshly. It is not necessarily a ridiculous comment. Besides, it's his opinion and you should accept it. I don't personally think that the bass will be the most popular instrument, but many people are choosing bass or drums over guitar because so many people play guitar.

You seem to have a bad attitude. Just chill.

Skulls
07-03-03, 01:11 PM
I have recently started playing Bass Guitar and have learned two songs so far. I still need help with tuning the thing and i need to get more song tabs to continue playing. So Bass playing is not a dying art cause i know many other ppl who play bass.

mars2112
07-03-03, 04:27 PM
greatest bassist? GEDDY LEE of course!

AWC
07-03-03, 07:43 PM
I agree that Geddy Lee is awesome, but I do not think he is the greatest. In my opinion, Jaco Pastorius is the greatest bassist.

Some other great bassists are Stu Hamm, Victor Wooten, and Marcus Miller. Check them out.

Wrong Robot
07-04-03, 01:52 AM
Jaco certainly was brilliant, I just picked up the album Portrait of Jaco:the Early years, daaaamn that cat must have been born to play, such a true musician in every sense of the word.

Yeah I'm a bassist, It's what I do.

Here is a clip of me playing "chromatic fantasy" by J.S. bach, Jaco was the first bassist to play this piece on electric.

www.xaqtly.com/Fantasy.mp3

My home on the internet
www.talkbass.com

Great bassists?

Donald Duck dunn, James Jamerson, Alphonso johnson, Jaco Pastorius, Marcus Miller, Victor Wooten, Stu hamm, Michael Manring, Colin greenwood, Paul Mcartney, Randy Tico, Steve Lawson, Stanley Clarke, Marshall Hawkins, Ray Brown, Paul Chambers....ah the list goes on and on and on and on and on....too many to name :D

Wrong Robot
07-04-03, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by valentino
Given the choice between a guitar and a bass, most will choose the guitar for the glam factor. If you're the lead guitarist, you ge all the chicks, am I right? Hell, I wanted to play guitar for the longest time cause they're just sexy. However, I ultimately chose the bass because I can be in my pick of bands. Everyone needs a new bass player. And drums . . . well I think more people would play them if they weren't such an expensive instrument.


you can get a fine drum kit for 400-500 dollars, that's not THAT expensive, then if you are serious about it, you upgrade it every oppurtunity you have, new cymbals, heads, stands, drums pedals...etc.

my friend did this, he got a cheap pearl kit(like the cheapest one) and then spent the next 5 months upgrading it as he needed, now he has a totally awesome kit, built from that pearl.

I was a drummer before I became a bassist, I had a 300 dollar drum kit, and I could still practice and learn just fine.

Wrong Robot
07-04-03, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by (Q)
When playing by yourself for your own enjoyment or for your family and friends, a bass just doesn’t seem to cut it. Nor do drums. A guitar or keyboards are more effective and enjoyable.



I disagree, I think that in the right hands, the bass is a formidable solo instrument, the harmonic and tonal possiblities are near endless. To hear some truly mind bending solo bass music check out:
Michael Manring @
www.manthing.com

if you join his newsletter and get access to "the stash" check out the song "music for armchair funambulists" it will surely make your jaw feel a lot heavier, and likely hit the ground. ;)

that's not even to mention extended range basses, 7 string and more, there is certainly a huge huge huge world of possiblities.

I personally am striving to be a solo bassist, so I take this matter fairly seriously, I mean don't get me wrong, I want to play in a band, but I also want to be able to explore all the instrument has to offer on the side, and believe it, there is a lot this beast can do.

AWC
07-05-03, 11:05 AM
It is nice to see someone else on this message board who has heard to some great jazz bassists.

You say that Jaco must have been born to play bass. I agree that fate must have brought him there. He started out as a drummer, but took up bass when he broke his wrist.

josrey
07-25-09, 06:23 PM
I PLAY BASS!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cool:

PieAreSquared
07-25-09, 06:34 PM
Stanley Clarke ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjXVLCH2W2A&feature=related

Fraggle Rocker
07-31-09, 05:44 PM
Hmm... I don't know how I missed this thread when it started, but I've been a bass guitarist for about 35 years.

I've always been into music, picking out melodies to pop songs on a glockenspiel when I was eight and singing in school choruses, choirs and plays. Then in the 7th grade I was in the flutophone band--I suppose that should be Flutophone with a trademark symbol, a plastic recorder. The summer after my sophomore year in high school I talked my parents into buying me a cheap steel-string acoustic guitar. Rock and roll was just becoming popular but there were still plenty of old-fashioned pop songs that were easier to play, and I liked country music then (the 1950s, its heyday) and those songs were even easier. I was a guitar-pickin' folksinger for about twenty years; never really very good but our role model was Bob Dylan so you didn't have to be very good as long as you had good songs, and there were lots of good songs.

Bear in mind that in the 1950s nobody aspired to be a bassist. With low-fidelity recordings you could barely hear it, so nobody was trying to invent interesting bass lines. It wasn't until rock started to take off that people were even playing bass guitars, rather than the bass viol.

But John Entwistle came along, IMO the first virtuoso bassist who played with a big-name band, making us all conscious of the potential of the bass guitar when home and car stereos sounded like concert halls. I'd always had an ear for music theory and structure, so I found bass lines fascinating, especially as they became more substantial. If the British Invasion was rock and roll's adolescence, Progressive Rock was it's adulthood; rock songs became so rich and complex that even the bass parts were sometimes overwhelming. Dave Pegg of Fairport Convention and later Jethro Tull, Chris Squire of Yes, and Jon Camp of Renaissance were inspirations, but the man who planted the idea in my head that I might have been born to be a bassist is John Wetton, who played with Roxy Music and the supergroup UK as well as many other bands. His long solo that ends Bryan Ferry's "Love Me Madly Again" practically steals the show.

By this time I had a serious guitar, a Martin dreadnought twelve-string, an axe you don't really have to be very good to get good sounds out of. But one day in a music store I spotted a Mosrite bass guitar with the Ventures signature logo on it, the iconoclastic instrumental rock band who played one of my favorite songs in high school, "Walk Don't Run," and is often given at least partial credit for inventing Surf Music even though they were from Seattle where nobody surfs. As if under its own power the axe was suddenly in my hands and I discovered that I was, indeed, born to play it.

I still have it, my one and only bass. And I've totally lost my guitar calluses, at least to the point that I can't take the killing pressure of a twelve-string.

The people who are complaining about bassists only vamping 4/4 beats must not have been around in the 1970s when a lot of songs were not in 4/4. Rush liked to play in time signatures that you couldn't possibly tap your foot too. And remember Devo's "Jocko Homo" in 7/4? I play Alice in Chains' "Man in the Box," not an easy bass part to master. Also Velvet Revolver's "Slither," Stone Temple Pilots' "Plush" and the Eagles' "Hotel California," all difficult songs.

But mostly I've played in original-music bands. Some of the songs are simple and easy, but some are as hard as Stone Temple Pilots. I don't do a lot of 4/4 vamping. And with original songs I get to write my own bass lines and add to the group's creativity.

visceral_instinct
07-31-09, 05:47 PM
I play the bass.

I enjoy the feeling of pulling at thick, tense metal strings.

I also love listening to bass for its own sake. I love bass solos in songs.

parmalee
07-31-09, 06:21 PM
If the British Invasion was rock and roll's adolescence, Progressive Rock was it's adulthood; rock songs became so rich and complex that even the bass parts were sometimes overwhelming. Dave Pegg of Fairport Convention and later Jethro Tull, Chris Squire of Yes, and Jon Camp of Renaissance were inspirations, but the man who planted the idea in my head that I might have been born to be a bassist is John Wetton, who played with Roxy Music and the supergroup UK as well as many other bands. His long solo that ends Bryan Ferry's "Love Me Madly Again" practically steals the show.

Ah, but you neglect to mention the late Hugh Hopper with Soft Machine, John Greaves (Henry Cow), Uli Trepte (Guru Guru), and Peter Giles on the second King Crimson album...

I often assume the role of faux bassist with the bass keys on my Farfisa organ channeled through a separate output. With a scale of only one octave, I typically use the "simplicity is the mother of invention" approach.