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Roman
03-02-07, 07:06 PM
I just noticed tor and valich were banned.

Not that I don't mind, at all, but what were the reasons? Give me that lovely soap.

Genji
03-02-07, 07:31 PM
Neither of them seemed banworthy:confused: Why aren't the trolls like Baron, Mr G, IAC and predator109 banned? I hope it wasn't permanent.

Roman
03-02-07, 07:40 PM
Because they're harmless. You may not agree with what they say, but what they say is all pretty topical. Except IAC, but he's so clearly a nutjob.... I figure he'll get a banned in a year or two, if he hangs around.

Valich was a real troll. He couldn't admit he was wrong. Ever. He edited his posts. He once tracked spuriousmonkey down, and guess he could have done some really bad stuff to spurious, IRL, career-wise. Or so I hear. He was also notoriously intellectually dishonest. He claimed to be a scientist, but his sources were often completely bogus.

Genji
03-02-07, 07:59 PM
Because they're harmless. You may not agree with what they say, but what they say is all pretty topical. Except IAC, but he's so clearly a nutjob.... I figure he'll get a banned in a year or two, if he hangs around.

Valich was a real troll. He couldn't admit he was wrong. Ever. He edited his posts. He once tracked spuriousmonkey down, and guess he could have done some really bad stuff to spurious, IRL, career-wise. Or so I hear. He was also notoriously intellectually dishonest. He claimed to be a scientist, but his sources were often completely bogus.Interesting. The trolls I noted though degrade the world events and politics fora to a drunken hillbilly bar brawl. Kills all the things we could be discussing. Instead we hear the same mantras about how gross gays are, how evil all who aren't Republican losers are, baiting to wreck discussion and they embarrass Americans with their grumpy old woman philosophies claiming to represent the country's attitudes toward issues. We could add Buffalo Roam and a few others to that list too.

Roman
03-02-07, 08:10 PM
The liberals aren't much different.

If you want to sit around and agree with people who think the same as you, why not go elsewhere? Maybe somewhere less tolerant.

S.A.M.
03-02-07, 08:12 PM
WEP has become utterly boring.

Roman
03-02-07, 08:15 PM
Remember that time you called me an ass?
I really liked that thread. I'm going to put a link to it in my 'best post' thread.

Genji
03-02-07, 08:18 PM
The liberals aren't much different.

If you want to sit around and agree with people who think the same as you, why not go elsewhere? Maybe somewhere less tolerant.I don't like liberals. They cling to capitalism and the corrupted Democratic Party. SF needs to fumigate though. Exterminate the roaches and tolerate textbook conservatives and libertarians instead, not just trolls attaching to a mostly Lefty site just to piss people off and derail thoughful discussion.

Though for myself at least I do detest people that disagree with me.

S.A.M.
03-02-07, 08:18 PM
Remember that time you called me an ass?
I really liked that thread. I'm going to put a link to it in my 'best post' thread.

You are an ass. Doesn't make you less smart, but you're young.

You'll probably be much worse 20 years on.:p

Genji
03-02-07, 08:19 PM
Remember that time you called me an ass?
I really liked that thread. I'm going to put a link to it in my 'best post' thread.:confused: I've called you worse than that!

Roman
03-02-07, 08:23 PM
Yeah, but I don't find you nearly as attractive as I find sam.

Genji
03-02-07, 08:24 PM
Yeah, but I don't find you nearly as attractive as I find sam.:bugeye: :(

invert_nexus
03-02-07, 08:39 PM
Valich got a temp ban for sending me a nasty little piece of pornography in pm.

Tor got banned because she was about to go on a post deleting spree. (She was already on her last chance after her last flareup, and had been raging about the forum in a huge drama queen fire.)


Instead we hear the same mantras about how gross gays are

Well. Maybe 'gays' aren't necessarily gross. But gay sex is. Especially gay mansex. Lesbians are a little better, but still in need of a bit of hetero action.

Roman
03-02-07, 08:45 PM
He sent you porno!?
You lucky dog.

leopold99
03-02-07, 08:46 PM
Valich got a temp ban for sending me a nasty little piece of pornography in pm.

holy shit! you're joking right?

i love you spurious i really do!

invert_nexus
03-02-07, 08:50 PM
It was some kind of inverted vagina or something. Very foul.
And, I hadn't even been mean to him yet in the thread he got all defensive in.
I bet he'd been sitting on that piece of porn for weeks waiting for me to bite.

The Devil Inside
03-02-07, 09:23 PM
that sucks...i just tried to sent invert something terrible....fucking stingy webmasters wouldnt let me snag their image.
:(

Genji
03-02-07, 09:49 PM
It was some kind of inverted vagina or something. Very foul.
And, I hadn't even been mean to him yet in the thread he got all defensive in.
I bet he'd been sitting on that piece of porn for weeks waiting for me to bite.:eek: That is offensive. Vaheenas invert?? No. Nevermind. I don't want to know.

Genji
03-02-07, 09:51 PM
"Well. Maybe 'gays' aren't necessarily gross. But gay sex is. Especially gay mansex. Lesbians are a little better, but still in need of a bit of hetero action." invertnexus

So two muscular, tanned, wellhung young paratroopers gettin it down is more gross than Janet Reno and Camilla Parker Bowles munching on eachother's stench trenches?

Bells
03-02-07, 11:30 PM
So two muscular, tanned, wellhung young paratroopers gettin it down is more gross than Janet Reno and Camilla Parker Bowles munching on eachother's stench trenches?

:eek:

Oh god the mental pics begin.:(

Eeewwwww..

Damn you Genji.. Damn you!!!!

:mad:

Repo Man
03-03-07, 01:00 AM
Interesting. The trolls I noted though degrade the world events and politics fora to a drunken hillbilly bar brawl. Kills all the things we could be discussing. Instead we hear the same mantras about how gross gays are, how evil all who aren't Republican losers are, baiting to wreck discussion and they embarrass Americans with their grumpy old woman philosophies claiming to represent the country's attitudes toward issues. We could add Buffalo Roam and a few others to that list too.

If you really feel that way, cough up $10.00 and join the SomethingAwful forums http://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=46 . The Debate and Discussion section will not tolerate flaming. The usual group of trolls here would last days at the most before getting banned. Not because of their positions, but because you have to be able to back it up with facts and trusted sources, not flaming and personal attacks. No WorldNetDaily and Newsmax. Take a look at the rules, http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1181862

But, be ready. That forum has thousands of members. From that large of a pool, some very intelligent people are drawn to D&D. There will almost allways be someone who knows more than you do about just about anything. Actual MDs, PHDs in many fields, etc.

Some of you will remember Stokes Pennwalt. He was also a member of both forums. I think he came here to engage in the sort of flaming behavior that would not have been tolerated in D&D. And because in D&D, there are sometimes people that you disagree with, but you come to the humbling conclusion that they are better debaters than you are, and you would lose if you tried to take them on.

GeoffP
03-03-07, 01:05 AM
Some of you will remember Stokes Pennwalt. He was also a member of both forums. I think he came here to engage in the sort of flaming behavior that would not have been tolerated in D&D. And because in D&D, there are sometimes people that you disagree with, but you come to the humbling conclusion that they are better debaters than you are, and you would lose if you tried to take them on.

Usually, in D&D, when there was someone I disagreed with, I would try to slay that person with my +6 vorpal disintegrator sword.

...oh. Oh, right. Never mind.

Geoff

spuriousmonkey
03-03-07, 01:48 AM
that sucks...i just tried to sent invert something terrible....fucking stingy webmasters wouldnt let me snag their image.
:(

Must have been a dutch porn webmaster. They don't give away anything for free.

Plazma Inferno!
03-03-07, 03:41 AM
I just noticed tor and valich were banned.

Not that I don't mind, at all, but what were the reasons? Give me that lovely soap.
You have the reason besides his name on the ban list.

invert already told you.

That was pretty nasty picture of 'prolapse' or downward protrusion of uterus, also called 'prolapse of inverted uterus'.

Pupose of that picture was to insult and that's why valich got three days ban.
Not because I'm nazi or because that was fad of mine.
Just simple disregard of rules.

The Devil Inside
03-03-07, 05:44 AM
"Well. Maybe 'gays' aren't necessarily gross. But gay sex is. Especially gay mansex. Lesbians are a little better, but still in need of a bit of hetero action." invertnexus

So two muscular, tanned, wellhung young paratroopers gettin it down is more gross than Janet Reno and Camilla Parker Bowles munching on eachother's stench trenches?

equally disturbing, for varying reasons. :)

invert_nexus
03-03-07, 09:58 AM
Repo Man,

That sounds an awful lot like spam, yes?
Isn't the reason you left the forums because of a bitter episode with a certain sex slave/cluster lizard?

Seems a strange way to stop lurking. To spam us with some other forum. Especially one that apparently needs no advertising or new members.

In other words.

Fuck off.

spuriousmonkey
03-03-07, 10:04 AM
Some of you will remember Stokes Pennwalt. He was also a member of both forums. I think he came here to engage in the sort of flaming behavior that would not have been tolerated in D&D. And because in D&D, there are sometimes people that you disagree with, but you come to the humbling conclusion that they are better debaters than you are, and you would lose if you tried to take them on.

There is only one truth that is more true than all others. This is independent of the skills of the debater.

The Devil Inside
03-03-07, 10:12 AM
There is only one truth that is more true than all others. This is independent of the skills of the debater.

zotte kaaskop.

Repo Man
03-03-07, 10:19 AM
Repo Man,

That sounds an awful lot like spam, yes?
Isn't the reason you left the forums because of a bitter episode with a certain sex slave/cluster lizard?

Seems a strange way to stop lurking. To spam us with some other forum. Especially one that apparently needs no advertising or new members.

In other words.

Fuck off.

Nice to see you too.

Genji was asking to get rid of the trolls. I don't believe this will happen at Sciforums. Debate and Discussion is the closest to a troll free forum I've ever seen. Informing Genji of the existence of this forum is hardly spamming. It exists, and Genji is now aware of it. He may do as he pleases with the information.

Zakariya04
03-03-07, 10:22 AM
wHY WAS |tor BANNED

i CANT BELEIVE IT WAS JUST COS she was trying to delete here posts?

and what tirade was she going into which started it off.

baron goes into a tirade almost evrytime he posts

~~~~~~~~
take it ez
zak

invert_nexus
03-03-07, 10:26 AM
Repo Man,

So please go off to your oh so wonderful pay as you play forums and leave us troll lovers alone then?

And, yes, it was spam. It read like an advertising circular. All you needed was some catchphrases: Super. Wonderful. Amazing! You can even cut a tin can with it!!

In other words.

Fuck off.

Repo Man
03-03-07, 10:36 AM
You must have a serious inferiority complex about Sciforums. You feel threatened by the idea of members here being made aware of another forum? Guess what, it's a big internet out there.

I think you can relax. The $10.00 fee will prevent any massive exodus from Sciforums. I seriously doubt that anyone from here will join there because of my post.

And this wasn't addressed to you, it was addressed to Genji.

invert_nexus
03-03-07, 10:41 AM
I'm not worried about a mass exodus. Just annoyed that an old member who ran off because of a hissy fit sees fit to make a grand reentrance to the forums by advertising some other forum.

By the way, the new owners really frown on that sort of thing. Just a heads up.

And this wasn't addressed to you, it was addressed to Genji.

You must mean 'that' wasn't addressed to me, because 'this' certainly was.
Anyway, there may be a rule that you can only speak when spoken to on your perfect little forum, but we're a rude bunch here and don't even have to raise our hands to speak.

We can fart too.

S.A.M.
03-03-07, 10:43 AM
By the way, the new owners really frown on that sort of thing. Just a heads up.




lmao.:D

Repo Man
03-03-07, 11:00 AM
By the way, the new owners really frown on that sort of thing. Just a heads up.


Oh, you had my best interests at heart, how kind of you!

The new owners frown on the mention of the existence of other websites that have political discussions? That sounds somewhat confining.

Genji was complaining about trolls. I posted to inform Genji that he has an alternative (and both the good and bad side of the alternative). You apparently don't want Genji to know he has an alternative. I've seen no complaints from Genji about my post.

Unless and until this is a bannable offense, I'll continue to post here as I please.

invert_nexus
03-03-07, 11:04 AM
I'll continue to post here as I please.

Well, let's hope you post rather than advertise.

The Devil Inside
03-03-07, 11:14 AM
we're a rude bunch here and don't even have to raise our hands to speak.

We can fart too.

hey, i forgot about that!
*punches invert in the balls and runs off, clicking his heels like a leprechaun*

valich
03-04-07, 04:07 PM
Valich was a real troll. He couldn't admit he was wrong. Ever. He edited his posts. He once tracked spuriousmonkey down, and guess he could have done some really bad stuff to spurious, IRL, career-wise. Or so I hear. He was also notoriously intellectually dishonest. He claimed to be a scientist, but his sources were often completely bogus.

What is a troll? When researching and reading late at night, I sometimes "browze" through the forums to see if there's a topic of interest. Is that trolling? Don't you do the same?

Sometimes I edit my posts. Is there something wrong with correcting mistakes or refining what you quickly first post after hindsight? Whether it be minutes, hours, or days later, this is a beneficial refinement that adds clarity. Invert is the one who showed me how to do this and now that I know about this option, I see that many other members do it as well. Editing is part of the writing process that all professionals use.

I once "tracked spurious down"? Now this is genuinely absurd. Forgive my naivety, but I don't even know how one would go about doing this. I suppose the search option could be used for this somehow, but this would be very time-consuming, no? I have no time for something like this and I do not "stalk" people. Spurious and I share common interests in biology and for this reason I'm sure that we frequent many of the same sites.

"Notoriously intellectually dishonest." Please explain. As Invert so obnoxiously points out through his insidious insulting habitual name calling - calling me "Mr. McGoooogle" - "I," probably more than any other member of Sciforums, cite my sources, and this is where and why he calls me this name.

"He claimed to be a scientist, but his sources were often completely bogus." I admit that I did inadvertently cite non-scientific sources, but they were sources nonetheless. I often read the news from many sources and reporyers get a lot of science info straight from the scientific researcher's mouth before it goes into print. Citing a direct quote, or an article that refers to scientific research, or quotes the researcer, is not a bogus source. Where did I ever cite any "bogus" sources?

"He claimed to be a scientist." Where and when did I ever say I was a scientist, but then again, what is a scientist? And why do you think I am not? A scientist is, according to Webster, "A person learned in science: a scientific investigator." I have four degrees, working on a fifth, have active research projects going on in biology, have written over 50 scientific articles for Wiki, substantially edited and updated over 500; have helped profs put together research proposals, write ecology and wildlife management plans, and helped research journal articles; have a 24/7 passion and dedication to reading, researching and studying many and almost all scientific fields, and the only other "distraction" that I can think of that I do is take my dog for a walk/run through the forest. Am I a scientist? If not, why not? On my homepage on Wiki I state that I am a Naturalist: a person who studies Nature. This is what I am, and this is what I do.

No one is perfect. We all make mistakes. We all live and learn by them. And here again, as I have done many times done elsewhere, I say that I also make mistakes. And, unlike some hypocritics, I am not "too proud" to apologize to others for making them or for insulting someone without due cause. Invert, however, deserves to be insulted - and more - for due cause, and he will never admit his mistakes or apologize to anyone because he is too overly proud and hedonistically obnoxious to do so.

leopold99
03-04-07, 04:23 PM
Genji was complaining about trolls. I posted to inform Genji that he has an alternative (and both the good and bad side of the alternative).
you could have sent a PM.
so ah, why did you post again?

invert_nexus
03-04-07, 04:29 PM
and he will never admit his mistakes or apologize to anyone

On the contrary, I often admit mistakes.
And, I also apologize.
In fact, I've even apologized to you in the past.
But, your brain doesn't seem to hold information long before twisting it into some strange and warped version of its previous existence. You know, that whole broken brain thing...

Anyway.

hedonistically obnoxious

What the hell is that?

What is a troll?

Troll.

"I," probably more than any other member of Sciforums, cite my sources, and this is where and why he calls me this name.

No. I call you names because your sources are often crap. And when called on them being crap you come up with some excuse about how that was so long ago that you can't remember or something equally ridiculous.

invert_nexus
03-04-07, 05:10 PM
Hey. Who erased the troll page?
:mad:

Edit: Never mind, I figured it out. I included the period in the link and it didn't work because of it. Oops.

Satyr
03-04-07, 05:58 PM
It was some kind of inverted vagina or something. Very foul.
And, I hadn't even been mean to him yet in the thread he got all defensive in.
I bet he'd been sitting on that piece of porn for weeks waiting for me to bite.I wouldn’t call a picture of my ass, a “vile piece of porn”.
I would call it a breach of trust, since I gave him, her… it…. that picture in confidence and only because I wanted to show him what I was most proud of.

Why hasn’t that asshole Satyr been permanently banned yet?
He’s begging for it.
No, really....he's asking for it.

Roman
03-04-07, 07:14 PM
You should start a thread about it, Psoriasis.

Genji
03-05-07, 05:32 PM
Nice to see you too.

Genji was asking to get rid of the trolls. I don't believe this will happen at Sciforums. Debate and Discussion is the closest to a troll free forum I've ever seen. Informing Genji of the existence of this forum is hardly spamming. It exists, and Genji is now aware of it. He may do as he pleases with the information.
I've been around awhile and been in other forums. I was a member at one that also is heavily moderated and they are quick on the banfinger, permanent ISP bans. I was banished from there last year. Why do you think it can only be a situation where a forum is overpoliced or underpoliced? There is after all a big wide middle space.