All religions should be banned.
The only positive about religion is that it pacifies the stupid and ignorant.
This obviously is not religions purpose at the moment.
So stick all your religions and beliefs up your arse.
:bugeye:

How does one outlaw stupidity?

p.s. We have T.V. to pacify.....and when you say up your arse, does this include all the writings....Ouch! Thats got to hurt!

Damn right!
Religion with its "loving Gods" only caused humans pain and suffering and brought thousand of years of ignorance. Religion is racism.

Go HonkyDick!

Ban Religion... Don't you dare!! :p :D

No no no, Don't ban religion! It may seem stupid to some (myself included) but it does exactly what you say it does, pacifies it's believers. We don't need a bunch of people running around not knowing what to do with themselves b/c they no longer have a god to control them. Some people need the control...
Of course, we could just line 'em all up and shoot 'em execution style..:D
-Belle

Ban religion?

Go for it. I'd really like to see you try.

That might actually bring extinction ....

:m:,
Tiassa :cool:

Of course, we could just line 'em all up and shoot 'em execution style..
I think burning their churches would be less harsh.;)
I don't have a problem with their beliefs, but why do they have to push it on everyone else. Seems like every other week some nut is knocking on the door trying to sell me god.
I'm gonna chase the next one off with the garden hose:D

Past attempts to prohibit something without popular support have resulted in driving the activity underground, and/or creating abnormal and artificial conditions.

Banning religion will be much like trying to cure a disease by treating the symptoms, i.e. the problem always comes back, and often much worse than before.

The ultimate solution is to remove the root cause of religion, which is obvious.

Fight fire with fire.

Religion at its core is ideas. Use the power of ideas.

Gentle persuasion is the only way to extinguish religion's dark ways. Banning religion could never work. Convincing people through careful debate and thoughtful discussion is the only cure.

Religion is a very shaky concept at best, more powerful ideas abound by the bushelful.

"a frog thrown in hot water jumps out, a frog put in cold water left to boil (here it comes) croaks"

"a frog thrown in hot water jumps out, a frog put in cold water left to boil (here it comes) croaks"It helps if you don't look at such large ideas as religions in such an immediate context, but that point is actually beside the point because the whole of your post is absolutely right. In fact, the only thing people have to worry about is that it's not a case of out of the frying pan and into the broiler oven. Not so much in an eternal-condemnation sort of way, but by my abuse of your metaphor it helps to point out the fact that we're not actualy trying to cook the frogs.

:m:,
Tiassa :cool:

"Fight Ideas with Ideas" reminds me of Ben Hur?

:p forget ideas, just drive all the religious folk into the ocean and let their god(s) handle them.

"But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth and swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out of its mouth."

If the religious persons who travel door to door have really got you bothered, just do what I did. Answer the door in the nude one time and invite them in to the orgy you say you are hosting. For some reason, that was the last time the Jehovah's Witnesses came to my house.... I kinda miss them, they always brought a good laugh.

If the religious persons who travel door to door have really got you bothered, just do what I did. Answer the door in the nude one time and invite them in to the orgy you say you are hosting.
Not bad, or I could tell them they're just in time to witness me sacrifice a virgin for satan:D

So, just out of curiosity, once you've banned everything, what will people do?

You are a moron sir, you do not know what you are talking about. you are just like all the hitler loving faries out there today. have a nice life, peace be with you

Religion is a product of human imagination and perhaps lack of intelligence.

We create these "supreme beings" to explain what we cannot explain through observation. Banning religion would require you to ban human imagination and enforce thought control.

Besides, there are some good things to learn from every religion.

The world is my Country and science my religion. :D

Originally posted by tiassa
Ban religion?

Go for it. I'd really like to see you try.

That might actually bring extinction ....



Tiassa,

extinction of .... ? :D

Originally posted by Jeremy
How does one outlaw stupidity?

"There is nothing in the world that can
give a man a sense of the infinite like
human stupidity." -Unknown

Originally posted by kazakhan
Not bad, or I could tell them they're just in time to witness me sacrifice a virgin for satan:D

Alternately you can bring them in, take a box out of your closet, and as they talk to you, start slowly taking parts of a hand gun out of the box, polish them, and slowly start putting it together. They'll get the idea.

Glaucon,

So, just out of curiosity, once you've banned everything, what will people do?Learn how to think clearly and objectively.

Originally posted by Cris
Learn how to think clearly and objectively.

Ironically, Cris, believing that this should be a fairly simple thing for people to do makes us wild idealists, with delusions of our own.

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Bow down to their new god, "CC" aka cosmic coincidence

Ever read the book 1984?

They replace religion with a totalitarian society, which controlled every aspect of their life. The primal instincts were controled through the public hating.. the need to belong to something that everyone else does. William James states that we have as many social selves as the company we keep, or we have one for each situation we're placed in. That to ignore a person, not one person, but a society ignoring them, would be the same as condemning them to death. So using this you could say that everyone needs a way to be recognized, and religion is one of these ways. People satisfy thie psychological need to belong by joining a group of "believers" and professing their belief. Give something else to believe in together, and you no longer need religion

Alternately you can bring them in, take a box out of your closet, and as they talk to you, start slowly taking parts of a hand gun out of the box, polish them, and slowly start putting it together. They'll get the idea.
If only I had a gun:)

Originally posted by HonkyDick
All religions should be banned.
The only positive about religion is that it pacifies the stupid and ignorant.
This obviously is not religions purpose at the moment.
So stick all your religions and beliefs up your arse.
:bugeye:

I completely agree.

Originally posted by Cris
Glaucon,

Learn how to think clearly and objectively.

Completely agreed,Cris.

I'm gonna chase the next one off with the garden hose :D :eek: , kinky! :rolleyes: .
Yeah people who try to sell me religion annoy me too. I think beleiving in God does pacify people, because Generally God is associated with an afterlife. However what harm does it do to beleive in God. Surely one will only live a happier life, and belief in an afterlife, while pacifiying the person, only means that that person will live a more productive life: If we assume that a Beleiver in God will 'calm down' (relax), and take a good look at life, then the life will be appreciated for what it' is worth! Even if there is nothing after death (i.e. the brain switches off; game over) then what there was of existence was good! It's as simple as that. There is nothing after, so all that does exist, is what we make of it (sounds a bit corny I know).

Fight fire with fire. People say this Jeremy but It cannot work!! You will just add to the flames!! Surely Fire should be fought with water, and this is why the elementals can be seen as part of the circle of life: Earth, Wind, Fire and Water:

Earth can stop the wind (Physical barrier),
Wind can put out the fire (or fan it?!),
Fire can boil away the water,
and Water can erode the Earth.

There are probabaly other variations (actually there are) but this is how it can work in my mind.

Forest fires are often fought with fires. Many little fires can stop a big one. But I'm nit picking. I was just using it as (perhaps a poor choice) a figure of speech. Ideas, I believe, can only be effectively fought with other more powerful ideas.

As far as believing in God, I do not think this is an issue (or following the thread). Religion is, and has, been very harmful to thousands of people. It's exclusivity and rejection of others religion (ideas) is the crux of the problem.

religion practice was unofficially barred in the Soviet Russia.
all the churches were "under construction" for years.

but what-do-u-know.. after the fall of the Soviet empire, ppl resumed practicing their religions.

i think that faith and worship is a human need. before, it was God. now ppl worship DJs, rock stars, book authors, politicians, athletes, chess players, porn stars... etc.

humanoid primates believed in a higher power or "next world" from before the Homo Sapiens period. bones were found burried with tools and decorations.

u can ban religion but u can't ban faith. and with faith, it's inevitable that eventually some sort of system of rituals will emerge, along with a philosophy.

Originally posted by HonkyDick
All religions should be banned.
The only positive about religion is that it pacifies the stupid and ignorant.Keep Religion, ban the stupid, and teach the ignorant.

Religion is not problematic in those who are capable of free reason and compassion.
Religion’s single greatest error lies in its absolute claim to truth for there it becomes a bulwark for petty and malicious intent.

~Raithere

Very nicely put, Raithere ;)

Originally posted by Raithere
Keep Religion, ban the stupid, and teach the ignorant.

Religion is not problematic in those who are capable of free reason and compassion.
Religion’s single greatest error lies in its absolute claim to truth for there it becomes a bulwark for petty and malicious intent.

~Raithere

By keeping religion we are making people stupid and teaching them ignorance.
Religion is the root of all the worlds problems.
Religions idea of compassion is to take your money, screw little boys and make you feel guilty about how shit your life is.
I have compassion, I would like for all you feeble minded BELIEVERS to see the light.
:bugeye: :bugeye:

Originally posted by otheadp
u can ban religion but u can't ban faith.
Faith has nothing to do with religion.
I have faith my car will start and I can tell you now god has never serviced my car.
:bugeye: :bugeye:

Originally posted by Mr.Ant
You are a moron sir, you do not know what you are talking about.

WHY? PINHEAD
:bugeye:

Mystech,

Originally posted by Cris
Learn how to think clearly and objectively. Ironically, Cris, believing that this should be a fairly simple thing for people to do makes us wild idealists, with delusions of our own.Yes but there is no reason to believe that is a simple thing to achieve and neither was that my implication. Learning how to think, just like learning most things takes time and effort.

What religion offers and falsely promises is a short cut where people don’t need to think at all. It is therefore little surprise that a large number of people in the world are religious, since it seems to be human nature to look for short cuts to save effort.

Do you know for with absolute certainy that Religion is wrong?

Originally posted by HonkyDick
Faith has nothing to do with religion.
I have faith my car will start and I can tell you now god has never serviced my car.
:bugeye: :bugeye:
Faith has everything to do with religion. Faith, being firm belief without proof, is fundamental to the definition of religion. Faith can, however, be utilized in non-religious situations as well.

Note that if your car has always started with no problem, then it doesn't require faith to believe it will start again, since all the evidence you have indicates that it will. But if your car hasn't started in years, then it would require faith to believe that it will start the next time you try.

Maybe we should ban atheism instead.

In the last century there have been more citizens murdered by officially atheist governments than by any religious theocracy.

Originally posted by Galt
Maybe we should ban atheism instead.

In the last century there have been more citizens murdered by officially atheist governments than by any religious theocracy.

US is the number one killers of civilians in the last century. Save maybe japan, but they mostly raped and pillaged. Was japan athiest? I don't know. I don't think so. How much thought you put into this statement? Any facts to support this? I find this thought interesting, see this thread

This Thread (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24215)

In the last century there have been more citizens murdered by officially atheist governments than by any religious theocracy.
Are you being sarcastic? Do you have any evidence?

Originally posted by HonkyDick
All religions should be banned.
The only positive about religion is that it pacifies the stupid and ignorant.
This obviously is not religions purpose at the moment.
So stick all your religions and beliefs up your arse.
:bugeye:

I agree, down with religion, up with atheism. We should group together, get organized, declare a manifesto, and promote our ideology. I nominate Honkeydick for a leader. Long Live Honkeydick.

Maybe we can erect a couple statues of Honkeydick and built a couple meeting halls. Heck, I can really get into this Honkeydickism.

Athiesm is just as bad as Theism. Both groups claim that they know the "truth" yet both cannot prove this. You cannot prove there is a god yet you cannot disprove there isn't a god. The only way to go is to give both sides and accept them, accept them by admitting we do not know. Agnosticism is the way to go. "True knowledge lies in knowing that you know nothing."
That is one philosophy we should all live by. We can't just look at things from one perspective anymore, we must look at all sides. That is the only way to making a better society. And to ban anything is just foolish. Nothing should be banned, or outlawed. Education is societies cure.

Stalin killed 43 million
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/RM1.STALIN.KILL.HTM

Atheism was one of the major ideas behind communism, which caused the Vietnam and the Korean wars. Also systems of goverment where the ruler declares himself god and immortal should be seen has atheist since the ruler is only using his "godship" to control the people.

I agree, down with religion, up with atheism. We should group together, get organized, declare a manifesto, and promote our ideology. I nominate Honkeydick for a leader. Long Live Honkeydick.

Maybe we can erect a couple statues of Honkeydick and built a couple meeting halls. Heck, I can really get into this Honkeydickism.
Cool, I second that!:D
The spread of organised religion is the detriment of us all. Why are churches needed? Why do they usually require so much money? What are they doing with that money? Why do they need to "spread the word"? How can they all be right? Religion looks to me like a product for profit.

Stalin killed 43 million
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/RM1.STALIN.KILL.HTM

Atheism was one of the major ideas behind communism..
Another health hazard of religious faith:) My dictionaries definition of communism doesn't mention atheism!
Also systems of goverment where the ruler declares himself god...
When someone claims this, how is it you know it is not the truth?

Another health hazard of religious faith My dictionaries definition of communism doesn't mention atheism!

Yes. A case could be made that the early christians practiced communal living. However present day communism clearly is associated with atheism. Communism is associated with disregard for traditional religious institutions. Also Stalin was an atheist.

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When someone claims this, how is it you know it is not the truth?
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We watch them die.

We watch them die.
How does that proove they are not?

God is all powerful. If they do not show the attributes of God then we should not even consider them to be God.

"True knowledge lies in knowing that you know nothing"(quote by philosopher)

If there's hope for an afterlife it lies with ignorance. The fact that we can never know everything gives us hope that maybe an afterlife does exist. I find life excruciatingly meaningless without a hope in some sort of higher scheme of things.

The universe allows us a brief observation of it , a little teaser so to speak. I like to believe there's a bigger show down the line.

Agnostic by nature

God is all powerful. If they do not show the attributes of God...
If god is to be taken as described then is not god responsible for everything? How would you know what god would and wouldn't do?

Philosopher,

There are only two positions, theism and atheism, i.e. one believes there is a god (theism), and the other is where such a belief is absent (atheism).

Agnostics must either be theist or atheist. There is no middle position.

Okinrus,

Yes. A case could be made that the early christians practiced communal living. However present day communism clearly is associated with atheism. Communism is associated with disregard for traditional religious institutions. Also Stalin was an atheist.You are quoting Christian propaganda again.

Here are a few facts concerning atheism and communism.

http://www.atheistalliance.org/library/nelson-atheism_communism.html

Regarding Stalin - A short extract -

……….There are no elements of freethought (the foundation of atheism) in Soviet philosophy. Stalin most certainly was unfamiliar with the humanistic underpinnings of atheism; they contradicted his goal, which was to create a totalitarian state in which he became the new god, whose dictates were not to be questioned. Individual rights, so central to freethought, were unknown in Soviet Russia.

The massacres of Stalin's reign were committed in the name of statism, not atheism, and statism is a by-product of the fundamentalist religious mindset.

Every government since time immemorial has recognized the role religion plays in stifling dissent and keeping people quiet and submissive. Charles I of England, for example, once said "religion is the only firm foundation of power."

Stalin did not want to share his power with anyone. Recognizing the church as the only significant rival to his supremacy, he attacked it. His attacks had nothing to do with ideological differences; it was a simple question of his stamping out a perceived threat.

Final proof that Stalin was not acting on atheistic principles could be seen during the opening salvos of the Barbarossa campaign during World War II. Things were not going well for the Russian armies at that point and Stalin, facing a possible revolution on the home front was searching for ways to amass a broad base of support for the war effort. To achieve this, he reinstated the Orthodox Church hierarchy to serve 'Mother Russia.' This shows that Stalin was by no means averse to promoting religion if it suited his purposes to do so. Clearly, Stalin's tyranny was based on the totalitarian premises that he learned from religion: Unquestioning obedience, reverence for a deity-figure (in human form) as well as a pie-in-the-sky utopian vision. His government never tolerated freedom of thought. Stalin's policies were the antithesis of atheist philosophy…………..

Originally posted by Cris
Philosopher,

There are only two positions, theism and atheism, i.e. one believes there is a god (theism), and the other is where such a belief is absent (atheism).

Agnostics must either be theist or atheist. There is no middle position.
_________-

That's one opinion. But there are others.

Atheism can be defined as the belief that there is no such thing as a God. Some people (including myself) consider atheism to be a religion entitled to protection under the US constitution. (The government cannot "establish a religion, or interfere with the free exercise thereof." So, if I choose to be an atheist, the government cannot compel me to say a Pledge including the words "Under God" because doing so would interfere with the free exercise of my right to believe as I choose.)

Agnostics come in several varieties. Some agnostics believe they lack any answers about whether God exists or not, and thus are unwilling to take a stand on an issue without certain knowledge.

Some agnostics believe it is impossible for humans to know whether God exists or not. If God does not exist, how would you know the difference between "no God" and "a God who created the universe but does not interfere with physical laws."

So, if

a theist believes God does exist, and

an atheist believes there is no such thing as God,

it would be possible for an agnostic to be neither theistic or atheistic, by believing it is impossible for him to know whether a God exists or not until and unless (a) God exists AND (b) God chooses to reveal himself.

There definitely IS a middle position.

Originally posted by Jade Squirrel
Faith has everything to do with religion.
Religion is based on faith.
My point was that faith and religion are seperate words and one doesn't always come with the other.
:bugeye:

I think there is some confusion over the strong and weak definitions of atheism.

To state that atheism is, at minimum, the simple lack of a god belief is called the weak definition for the word atheism (sometimes called negative atheism). Those who use the weak definition tend to include even infants and imbeciles as atheists, based upon the fact that these people are unable to comprehend a god claim and thus lack a god belief. This definition naturally includes those who strongly assert that no gods exist -- and everyone in between.

The strong definition says that atheism is the assertion that no gods exist. Those who advocate the strong definition tell us that an atheist is "a person who maintains that there is no God, that is, that the sentence 'God exists' expresses a false proposition." [18]

The strong definition, however, requires that we come up with another term to describe those who simply lack a god belief. Many atheistic philosophers prefer the term nontheists. [19] Strong atheists, theists, and agnostics describe a middle category, agnostics, though this does not address the simple lack of belief. With the weak definition, nontheism equals atheism, and agnostics are either theistic agnostics or atheistic agnostics.

http://www.positiveatheism.org/faq/faq1111.htm

Originally posted by Galt
In the last century there have been more citizens murdered by officially atheist governments than by any religious theocracy.

What if you don't count the 500,000,000,000,000,000,000 jews Hitler killed.

George W is doing GODS work in the middle east, along with a whole heap of other countries.

Originally posted by Philosopher
Both groups claim that they know the "truth" yet both cannot prove this. You cannot prove there is a god yet you cannot disprove there isn't a god. The only way to go is to give both sides and accept them, accept them by admitting we do not know.
We can't just look at things from one perspective anymore, we must look at all sides. That is the only way to making a better society. And to ban anything is just foolish. Nothing should be banned, or outlawed. Education is societies cure.

The BIG BANG. Evolution.
It is a lot harder to prove that something that isn't there and doesn't exist, just doesn't exist.
Obviously it would be hard to ban religion, but what about banning children up to a certain age?
Accept nothing, especially the brain washing of the kids.

The BIG BANG. Evolution. I'll bite.

What about them?

:m:,
Tiassa :cool:

Originally posted by HonkyDick
By keeping religion we are making people stupid and teaching them ignorance.
Religion is the root of all the worlds problems.
Religions idea of compassion is to take your money, screw little boys and make you feel guilty about how shit your life is.
I have compassion, I would like for all you feeble minded BELIEVERS to see the light.I would suggest you spend a little more time reading my posts before you call me feeble minded or a believer. You also need to spend a bit more time trying to understand what religion is and how it works within individuals and societies. Yours is simply a knee-jerk response that demonstrates little to no understanding of the human condition that religion does address.

Religion, like pretty much every other ideology, is dangerous primarily in its declaration of absolutes. Such declarations are dangerous in that they allow no further consideration or modification. They fly in the face of reality and consequence. For the ‘faithful’ of any ideology, reality takes a back seat. Facts must be reinterpreted, ignored, or altered so that the ideology can remain constant; this can be quite nasty if you’re one of the facts that needs altering.

Besides the logical flaw this institutes (the conclusion becomes the premise), it is quite simply insane (literally). Most people realize this, at least subconsciously, at some point and therefore begin to play games with translation, reinterpreting, but rarely abandoning, their ideological doctrine. Those who are the most unwilling to find some compromise between reality and ideology progress towards literal insanity. From the fanatics who are borderline (religious, political, nationalist, the brand of ideology does not matter) to those who are truly insane (Ted Kazinski, for example).

~Raithere

Originally posted by RileyWins
So, if

a theist believes God does exist, and

an atheist believes there is no such thing as God,

it would be possible for an agnostic to be neither theistic or atheistic, by believing it is impossible for him to know whether a God exists or not until and unless (a) God exists AND (b) God chooses to reveal himself.

There definitely IS a middle position.
No, there is not.

1) A theist believes that God or gods exist.
2) A strong atheist believes that God or gods do not exist.
3) A weak atheist simply lacks an explicit belief that God or gods exist.

Any of these three might believe it is impossible to know whether God or gods exist. A person either has belief (theism) or does not have belief (atheism) that God or gods exist.

I'm sorry to be politically incorrect, but arguing about religion is like competing in the Special Olympics....even if you win you're still a retard.

I say this because the intelligent people of the world need to grow a healthy perspective on the devout. If they don't, they are bound to waste an incredible amount of time on them. So let me try to help you out. Instead of arguing with religious people, try to relate to them. You will soon discover that there is no reason to argue with them.

Consider, if you will, the reality a christian lives in:

1) The Earth is not our home. It is a pit stop wherein we get tested. It is not the origin of all life as we know it, God did that (and made the Earth).
2) Everyone is immortal. Our bodies die, but we all live on in one of two homes, as determined by the aforementioned testing.
3) Most people go to the very nasty place for eternity because they like sex or were born somewhere that people have the wrong god.

I could go on, but the point is made. This is someone you want to have a philisophical discussion with? Why? You don't have to ban religion, it bans itself. The ideas are so stupid! I see nice people like Tiassa arguing all over the place with religious types. Just be grateful that you aren't so terrified of dying that you spend your whole life clinging to comforting delusions of an afterlife. Especially ones that are as whacked out as the Earth's religions! You really have to be quite simple to buy that stuff, so why seek arguements with the deluded? Just tell them, "Yes, of course you know the creator of the universe." and then go find someone who can hold an intelligent conversation.

extinction of .... ?Humanity.

The last living human will believe in God. I can guarantee that. Few things that I have ever realized and asserted are so certain as that.

You can't get rid of God until humans either stop existing entirely or become assimilated into the Borg (stop being human).

:m:,
Tiassa :cool:

Tiassa-

Do you really mean what you say, that the last human alive will believe in god? How can you be so sure? I am a human, and the idea of god is completely ridiculous to me in every way. I'd sooner believe in oat bran. Remember the flat Earth theory? How about the Earth at the center of the universe? Simplicity is the obvious first step, but what about evolution? Do you refute that the human being is still evolving?

Will the last human be a troglodite?

And which god will the last human believe in?

Will she be incapable of perceiving all of them? Will they not cancel each other out in her reckoning?

Originally posted by tiassa
I'll bite.

What about them?

:m:,
Tiassa :cool:

I hope my schooling hasn't gone to waste, but didn't we evolve from the apes.
Morons still seem to think one almighty and powerful being put people here. :bugeye:

Originally posted by Raithere
I would suggest you spend a little more time reading my posts before you call me feeble minded or a believer. You also need to spend a bit more time trying to understand what religion is and how it works within individuals and societies. Yours is simply a knee-jerk response that demonstrates little to no understanding of the human condition that religion does address.
~Raithere
Hey Mr."teach the ignorant"
I will call you what ever I like. If your all for pushing religion on people you are no better than a drug dealer(nothing against drug dealers).
The human condition your looking for is naivety. :bugeye:

Originally posted by HonkyDick
Hey Mr."teach the ignorant"
...
The human condition your looking for is naivety.And I thank you for exemplifying both conditions.

~Raithere

it happens when someone hates to waste a sunday in church.
all out war becomes the fashion and veterans are called otherwise by claim-jumpers.

Honky Dick

Well enough ... and?

Filibuster Do you really mean what you say, that the last human alive will believe in god? How can you be so sure? If the last human is aware of their condition, the reality of reality will prove ineffable. Once the course is set, one can hardly blame the human if s/he builds a rocket ship to go out and search for other life in the Universe against the improbable hope that other humans exist elsewhere, but why would it matter?

To lie beneath the stars and know that with the coming final breath the whole of humanity will forever disappear ... a sacred moment indeed.I am a human, and the idea of god is completely ridiculous to me in every way. Yet the effect of the idea of god ...?I'd sooner believe in oat bran. Remember the flat Earth theory? How about the Earth at the center of the universe? Simplicity is the obvious first step, but what about evolution? Do you refute that the human being is still evolving?When we evolve past H. sapien sapiens, or whatever it is we classify ourselves, will we cease to call ourselves human? I'm referring to an extinction scenario; a Titus Crow moment in the history of the Universe.Will the last human be a troglodite?Something about evolution?And which god will the last human believe in?I doubt that God has been born yet.Will she be incapable of perceiving all of them? Will they not cancel each other out in her reckoning? Humanity, as a whole, is henotheistic. Remember that gods are human inventions; that might help you figure it out. Whatever the time brings to that last human being will be invested in the connection between reality and ineffable possibility. And that connection is all that any god is.

I would suggest that you're making too much out of what a god is supposed to be.

:m:,
Tiassa :cool:

Originally posted by everneo
Tiassa,

extinction of .... ? :D

Let's hope that as the human race evolves, we will shed our dependence on false doctrines.

My theory is that as we get more knowledgeable about the utilization of stem cells to repair organs in the human body, eventually there will be no disease or death. What will Xians attribute "everlasting life" to then???

i have no problem with religions, its just when people go parading around falunting their religion as superior and praising whoever in your face that pisses me off very much. Those Jehovahs witnesses who come to my door every fucking weekend are examples also the radical islamics going and blowing shit up in the name of Allah.
SO please folks, whatever you believe in is your own business, but frankly, i don't wanna here about

Originally posted by Medicine*Woman
Let's hope that as the human race evolves, we will shed our dependence on false doctrines.

My theory is that as we get more knowledgeable about the utilization of stem cells to repair organs in the human body, eventually there will be no disease or death. What will Xians attribute "everlasting life" to then???

Ladies and Gentelman, we are experiencing a slight change in our air and earth chemical imbalance that interferes with our ability to survive. All stem cells used to repair organs costing billions of dollars and years of research are destroyed due to this slight environmental change and a refund will be available at the airport counter.

At this time, please secure your seat belt, put your head between your legs and kiss your ass good bye....If you wish we have 10 more seconds in which Atheists may whine and Theists may pray.

Originally posted by HonkyDick
I hope my schooling hasn't gone to waste, but didn't we evolve from the apes.
Morons still seem to think one almighty and powerful being put people here. :bugeye:

No we evolved from cavemen,the humans you see today are not the same as what was around 30,000 years ago and before that,theres been newer findings since you went to school it seems.

I think the critical fact is neanderthal man was not human,they were seperate,we bear no relation to them at all,weve changed alot as well splitting into races according to which group went north or south and so on.

An Idea is something that you have,
An Ideology is something that has you!

While the 3 great monthesitic traditions are spiraling downward in our internicene conflicts, the big winner is China.
China is not dwelling on silly arguements about whose god will kill off the other group's god. China is sweating toward the equity that will make them the winner of all this conflict that we variously call, "jihad, the middle-east, etc."