Yay. Attacks by insurgents and rival sectarian militias have fallen up to 80% in Baghdad. Lieutenant-General Abboud Qanbar said the success of a year-long clampdown named "Operation Imposing Law" had reined in the savage violence between majority Shi'ites and minority Sunni Arabs dominant under Saddam Hussein:

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL1880448320080216?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

You will not hear about this in any of the drive-by media. Guaranteed.

Guess the ethnic cleansing is over.

yeah, I was wondering if there was anyone left to kill. I know I would have moved.

When Sadar comes back into his power trip he will be a force to reckon with. He will wait until the Americans leave before he starts his violence up again as he once did but was let go because he "gave up". But he really didn't, he went to Iran to get more information as to what to do by his "handlers".:(

Yay. Attacks by insurgents and rival sectarian militias have fallen up to 80% in Baghdad. Lieutenant-General Abboud Qanbar said the success of a year-long clampdown named "Operation Imposing Law" had reined in the savage violence between majority Shi'ites and minority Sunni Arabs dominant under Saddam Hussein:

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL1880448320080216?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

You will not hear about this in any of the drive-by media. Guaranteed.

Great. maybe the drive by media will now focus on the unmetered oil, the corruption amongst CPA officials. The lack of compensation to any family. Oh, and why we invaded in the first place.

Yay. Attacks by insurgents and rival sectarian militias have fallen up to 80% in Baghdad. Lieutenant-General Abboud Qanbar said the success of a year-long clampdown named "Operation Imposing Law" had reined in the savage violence between majority Shi'ites and minority Sunni Arabs dominant under Saddam Hussein:

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL1880448320080216?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

You will not hear about this in any of the drive-by media. Guaranteed.

Lets be honest here does anyone bat a eyelid when we here 100 killed in bomb attack in afghan or iraq, we are all numb to it, well most of us with a brain, the fanatics are doing it just foe laughs now, there is no effect to be gained anymore, there is effect to be gained if they bomb the uk again thats headlines, but iraq or afghan, we all figure hey they all enjoy to live like that, or else why would they hide these terroists in there homes.

Its like the boy who cried wolf to many times, all the muslims know the amercians and others want out of iraq and afghan & they all know if they could keep the peace for long enough we would all be out, but they dont want us out, thats why they keep blowing things up.

As soon as the IRA stopped blowing people up in ireland guess what the uk troops started to go home, gee whiz thats a suprise, UN troops are over the world & guess what wherever there posted as soon as peace and security is the norm they all go home.

So it seams to me and anyone with any logic, all you have to do is say hey fellow muslims lets stop blowing up our funeral processions & food markets & try for once to behave like normal humanbeings, & gee whiz all those infidel soldiers might piss off back to there wife & kids, or do you honestly believe they enjoy your company that much.

The reality is they want us there, and the want israel in palestine, in order for these despots in iran & afghan & other oil states leaders to stay in power they need a common cause for all muslims to hate be it israel or america.
Muslims cant seem to see there all puppets of these leaders.

Interesting theory.

Down 80% after it went up how much after the illegal invasion?

http://www.longwarjournal.org/images/weekly-attack-trends-12072007.gif

Basically we're back to where we were in 05/06. Mission Accomplished?

Heh, violence down in one city, big whoop. I love how the people in power try and make Baghdad the only thing in Iraq, the same with Kabul in Afghanistan. Secure those two cities and it's all good, while the rest of the countries are in turmoil.

- N

Very true Neil, the main problem is in the small towns, where the mass of the supporters come from. Hell they used to have training camps less than 50 miles away from fobs they'd make em' and send em' out within days.

It's not hard to teach some one how to shoot, run, and hide. It's not effective at all though. They are just another form of a kamikazi.

It's nice to hear some good news out of all the chaos though. I guess it's a ripple in the pond, if anything. I'll be lucky to be in baghdad for more than a week...

The violence being down is great news but not to liberals. They have a vested interest in seeing us lose. They hate W that much. Too bad for them we're doing so well. Too bad for us they will cut and run if they win the election and all our work will have been for nothing. The demonic terrorists will take over the country. Then they'll come here and take over this one since no democrat has any interest in fighting terrorism. They think it's a law enforcement
problem. :mad:

Reducing violence was supposed to allow for political settlement and reconciliation to happen. As far as I can tell, that part is just as hopeless as ever.

The violence being down is great news but not to liberals.

No, it's good news, it's just that it isn't the OMG THIS FRIGGIN ROCKS LETS SPREAD THE WORD AND PARTY kinda news that conservatives get hard-ons for. As I mentioned in my previous post, cool, violence is down 80% in one city in Iraq, but that's pretty meaningless on the grand scale. How about we Surge the whole country with a soldier to civilian ratio like in the days of WWII so we really secure it, otherwise big whoop. Once the whole country's violence is down 80%, then I'll join ya and have a beer, otherwise I'll just yawn and let the political hacks politicize it.

- N

Heh, violence down in one city, big whoop. I love how the people in power try and make Baghdad the only thing in Iraq, the same with Kabul in Afghanistan. Secure those two cities and it's all good, while the rest of the countries are in turmoil.

- N
Petraeus sent a majority of the surge brigades to Baghdad because he and his staff know that the government's inability to accomplish just about anything needs to be fixed before anything meaningful can happen nationwide. A year or so ago, it was thought that a safer capitol would enable the government to go on with its work. A year later, violence is down, but the government still pretty much sucks ass. So while more security is an axiomatically good thing (as you said) it hasn't yet triggered what we hoped. Additonally, the brigades that were part of the surge are going to start rotating home around June or so, so there is some concern about whether the security gains made over the last year will hold once they pull out.

Iraq died a long time ago. The occupation is just ghoulishly playing string-puppet with a bloated corpse. Makeup and costumes won't keep it from falling apart.

The papers say al Sadr has omitted extending the truce he began voluntarily observing six months ago.

So the Shia under his purview (maybe the largest single militia in Iraq) are now free to take up arms again.

We can hope for the best - - - .

The violence being down is great news but not to liberals. They have a vested interest in seeing us lose. They hate W that much. Too bad for them we're doing so well. Too bad for us they will cut and run if they win the election and all our work will have been for nothing. The demonic terrorists will take over the country. Then they'll come here and take over this one since no democrat has any interest in fighting terrorism. They think it's a law enforcement
problem. :mad:

why do you have a mad need to attack liberals?

why do you have a mad need to attack liberals?

Because their thinking and actions are embarrassing. Half of my country is anti-bush, anti-America, anti-war on terror, anti-self-responsibility, anti-sane...

They support terrorists, adultery, baby-killing, laziness, stupidity, welfare, and everything against God.

They are like whiny little brats who are never happy, never satisfied, and contribute little to society. They fill jails/psych wards, ruin neighborhoods /schools/hospitals...They have entitlement mentalities which suck up my tax dollars. They are ungrateful, unpatriotic, and godless.

Because their thinking and actions are embarrassing. Half of my country is anti-bush, anti-America, anti-war on terror, anti-self-responsibility, anti-sane...

They support terrorists, adultery, baby-killing, laziness, stupidity, welfare, and everything against God.

They are like whiny little brats who are never happy, never satisfied, and contribute little to society. They fill jails/psych wards, ruin neighborhoods /schools/hospitals...They have entitlement mentalities which suck up my tax dollars. They are ungrateful, unpatriotic, and godless.

i now clearly see the difference between me and you.
you feel the need to utterly destroy those different than you while i can coexist with people of a differing viewpoint. you are a sad person. i pity you unable to understand the need for those different than our selves. you can use hyperbole to mock the liberal viewpoint and continue to be the problem in this country or you can learn to talk and work with them like an adult.first off iam a liberal and yes i am anti bush but i am pro america i believe we should work to combat terrorism i beilive in self responsibilty and i am perfectly sane. i do not support terrorists, adultery, laziness or stupidity. although i am not a chirstian i do believe in god and i do let my faith guide my morals. i am relatively happy. frequently satisfiedand contribute much to society. there are a roughly equal number of right and left wing people in jail and pych wards. we work to improve neighborhoods, schools, and hospitals. we liberals believe that those with the means should be required to help others as this is the foundation of civilazation. we are gratful and patriots and many of us are religious. we are grateful and patriots and have gods. your hatred diminishes you and in diminishing yourself you diminish us all.

...you feel the need to utterly destroy those different than you while i can coexist with people of a differing viewpoint. you are a sad person. i pity you unable to understand the need for those different than our selves. you can use hyperbole to mock the liberal viewpoint and continue to be the problem in this country or you can learn to talk and work with them like an adult.first off iam a liberal and yes i am anti bush but i am pro america i believe we should work to combat terrorism i beilive in self responsibilty and i am perfectly sane. i do not support terrorists, adultery, laziness or stupidity. although i am not a chirstian i do believe in god and i do let my faith guide my morals. i am relatively happy. frequently satisfiedand contribute much to society. there are a roughly equal number of right and left wing people in jail and pych wards. we work to improve neighborhoods, schools, and hospitals. we liberals believe that those with the means should be required to help others as this is the foundation of civilazation. we are gratful and patriots and many of us are religious. we are grateful and patriots and have gods. your hatred diminishes you and in diminishing yourself you diminish us all.

I'm not interested in destroying liberals--just their idiotic thinking. We've been talking/working with them for years. They still don't get it. You say you support combating terrorism yet you support the terrorists' rights but not our troops.:confused:
You defend adulterers, baby-killers, laziness/stupidity. How do you work to improve schools/neighborhoods/hospitals? By letting/supporting criminal aliens/losers destroy them? :eek:
Those of us with means ARE supporting most of the damn country. We pay most of the taxes paying for the losers. I have never met a liberal patriot. I think that's an oxy-moron.

You have "Gods". :rolleyes: I rest my case.

I'm not interested in destroying liberals--just their idiotic thinking. We've been talking/working with them for years. They still don't get it. You say you support combating terrorism yet you support the terrorists' rights but not our troops.:confused:
You defend adulterers, baby-killers, laziness/stupidity. How do you work to improve schools/neighborhoods/hospitals? By letting/supporting criminal aliens/losers destroy them? :eek:
Those of us with means ARE supporting most of the damn country. We pay most of the taxes paying for the losers. I have never met a liberal patriot. I think that's an oxy-moron.

You have "Gods". :rolleyes: I rest my case.

i used gods because not every liberal is of the same faith. i tried to help you open your mind but it has become clear your to blinded by hatred to work to improve humanity. to destroy a group you destroy there way of thinking and their ideas. if you have never met a liberal patriot than you don't know what a patriot is