Has anyone here heard of them? What do you think of them??

Their drummer is amazing, their guitarists are amazing, and their singer is terrible.

End of story.

AmishRakeFight

a bit like megadeth then

I think they are extremely talented. I especially love their new stuff. I'm not sure why people hated them because m shadows stopped screaming.
weird. hah.

I think their new stuff isn't anywhere as good as Waking the Fallen or Sounding the Seven Trumpets, but its efficient.

AmishRakeFight

When their Bat Country song comes on the radio I leave it on and enjoy it, but they appear to be just another pop/metal group to come out of the 00's.....I could be wrong though, I've never really listened to them.

Yeah, they get a bad rep just because they don't give a fuck what people think.
yeah, waking the fallen and sounding the seventh trumpet are frickin amazing.
but they made a GREAT change with city of evil.
has anyone ever seen them live?

Technically impressive, can't stand the singer's voice.

I rather like them. I don't have a problem with his voice. I really like the song Bat Country. And I might get to see them in concert! I hope I do.

guitarists are about the only good thing to come out of the eighties...

I only have City of Evil but I like it. I'm going to get their other stuff.

Although they are talented musicans something about the singer and the guitarist just makes me want to shoot them.

to be honest, i have thought they sucked since about '98. they were a ripoff melodic metalcore band when they started, trying to cash in on a trend that about 11,000 other bands were doing better than they were. now they got into a studio with some money and a producer and sound like the bastard child of guns n roses and at the gates, but they look like their gothed -out emo grandchildren. its basically garbage dressed up to look like a treasure.
i saw them about 4 years ago and i was thoroughly unimpressed. however, i am pretty jaded when it comes to the topic of "whether any bands on the radio are actually worth listening to".

to be honest, i have thought they sucked since about '98. they were a ripoff melodic metalcore band when they started, trying to cash in on a trend that about 11,000 other bands were doing better than they were. now they got into a studio with some money and a producer and sound like the bastard child of guns n roses and at the gates, but they look like their gothed -out emo grandchildren. its basically garbage dressed up to look like a treasure.
i saw them about 4 years ago and i was thoroughly unimpressed. however, i am pretty jaded when it comes to the topic of "whether any bands on the radio are actually worth listening to".

So you don't like them?

So you don't like them?

in a nutshell. however, i prefer to give background as to why all the time. it helps me improve my keyboarding skills to type a paragraph long response to a question that could have been answered with two words.

They are crappy pop-punk, and give the genre punk a bad name. Awful American trash.

They are crappy pop-punk, and give the genre punk a bad name. Awful American trash.

i don't think i like them any more than you do, but they aren't pop-punk, and that particular genre gives itself a bad name without needing any help from the new wave of glam metal.

While chatting to an "A7X fanatic" he claimed they were pop punk and metal. I laughed in his face and burned his shitty emo hair.

I didn't really.

But I wish I did.

While chatting to an "A7X fanatic" he claimed they were pop punk and metal. I laughed in his face and burned his shitty emo hair.

I didn't really.

But I wish I did.

hahahaha....good imagery.

While chatting to an "A7X fanatic" he claimed they were pop punk and metal. I laughed in his face and burned his shitty emo hair.

I didn't really.

But I wish I did.

i just pictured a dude in girls jeans and a white belt and makeup running around with his faux-hawk in flames. if it were only true.

They are like wannbe people