Australian government 'Flog them' "gas them with the exhaust of your car"

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Last Updated: Saturday, 18 March 2006, 09:13 GMT


Australians hunt down toxic toads


By Phil Mercer
BBC News, Darwin



The toxic toads have wrought havoc on indigenous animals

Residents in Australia's Northern Territory are staging a day of action to stop marauding cane toads.

They are being encouraged to hunt and destroy these toxic pests, which have spread in plague-like numbers across tropical Australia.

The cane toads were introduced from South America 70 years ago in a failed attempt to eradicate cane beetles.

They are big, ugly creatures and their advance has taken them to the outskirts of Darwin.

Residents are being urged to defend the front-line on "Not In My Backyard Day", which is sponsored by the Northern Territory government.

'Flog them'

Federal MP Dave Tollner says that the toads deserve no mercy.

"I suggested that people should hit them with golf clubs or cricket bats or, you know, lumps of wood - whatever was at hand.


The only fun bit about them is squashing them and killing them



Schoolgirl


"Other people have suggested that you should put them in a box and then gas them with the exhaust of your car. The RSPCA also suggests chemical euthanasia.

"You know, to me it seems far easier just to flog them over the head with a lump of wood," he says.

The toads have become a serious hazard to local wildlife.

Crocodiles have died after eating their toxic skin, while lizards have been no match for them either.

Humane alternative

Safe to say that cane toads have few friends in Australia's lush tropics.

"I think they're really disgusting and the only fun bit about them is squashing them and killing them," a schoolgirl says.



Asked whether she thinks that is a bit mean, she replies: "No, not to me... Because cane toads are disgusting!"

Australia's RSPCA believes that these warty creatures are a menace and should be destroyed.

It recommends that they be smeared with haemorrhoid cream.

It contains a local anaesthetic that induces a coma.

The toads are then placed in a freezer and the job is done humanely.

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"You know, to me it seems far easier just to flog them over the head with a lump of wood,"



"Federal MP Dave Tollner says that the toads deserve no mercy.

"I suggested that people should hit them with golf clubs or cricket bats or, you know, lumps of wood - whatever was at hand. "


"Other people have suggested that you should put them in a box and then gas them with the exhaust of your car"





"Australia's RSPCA believes that these warty creatures are a menace and should be destroyed.

It recommends that they be smeared with haemorrhoid cream.

It contains a local anaesthetic that induces a coma. "



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Even the rspca is getting in on these acts of cruelty it say haemorrhoid cream induces a coma, come on here fuck we have all known disturbed kids at school pulling the legs off insects, but we are talking about a government sanctioning murders, gas chambers for frogs, give these hermits a break, i take it the muppets were not a big thing in oz.

Cruelty encourages more cruelty that is a fact, kids that pull daddy long legs off, will often turn out to be serial killers.

 

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I have no doubt they can do major damage, my problem here is the federal government telling people, which also means kids to go on a killing spree, and that is wrong totally, children should not be encouraged to kill anything, it fucks there brain up.

There are paid environmental inspectors or pest control to handle pest matters, the same way they handle rats, all this can be done without involving kids in this killing spree, take the kids out of the equation, like it or not, when some people steal they get a first for it, and make it a fulltime thing, killing is the same thing some individuals will develop a fist for it, after only one killing.

Never encourage or involve kids with any form of killing, thats what adults do, and its what we are very sick & good at doing at.

 

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Cane toads arent native to this country Vincent , they are a pest , I live in queensland where these fucking things thrive they are gross .

 

jeez those Aussie school girls are brutal.

Brian Foley - Toad Hunter

 

And what idea do you have james?
Have you witnessed first hand ecosystems destroyed by cane toads?
Maybe cane toads have made it to your university campus and had a serious impact on the house gecko population?

I don't think there's actually any proof that they cause significant environmental damage. It's more a case of it seeming like they should.
They're slow moving, not the least bit stealthy and they're toxic, so it seems like every lizard and snake should be going extinct. But the thing is they aren't.
In my neighbourhood there are millions of cane toads, but there are also countless adult snakes, the pond over the road is filled with cranes and egrets searching for little critters. They couldn't miss cane toads, they couldn't be easier to catch.
Not one snake could have avoided bumping into a cane toad before reaching it's first birthday so what are all these big snakes doing alive and well in my neighbourhood? Obviously native animals are adapting to this invader, and somehow learning not to eat them.
Frogs are said to be the most negatively affected, and I think there may be some truth to that as cane toads compete with them directly for resources, eat them and their tadpoles. They produce far far more offspring which are generally just hardier competitors. So I do believe frogs have copped a bit of a flogging from cane toads, but still there are frogs in good numbers around here, so it's really being blown out of proportion.

Regardless, encouraging people to think up cruel ways to kill cane toads is undeniably in poor form. For starters it won't ever actually affect their numbers, and secondly it's still animal cruelty. People seem to use their "pest" status as an excuse to try out horriffic methods of maiming and killing and get a thrill out of it. Not every person soaking cane toads in petrol and setting them alight before hitting them with a golf club is an environmentalist, in fact most of them are just sick depraved individuals who are then applauded for satiating their darkest perverted desires.
This alone should worry us.

At the end of the day, cane toads will never have the negative environmental impact human beings do. I wonder if these toad hunters think it's a good idea to murder and torture humans because they're the most destructive invasive species of all?
It would seem strange if they didn't, it's apparently the cane toad's tendency to cause damage to ecosystems which makes them a target, not their toadiness, so why wouldn't this also apply to human beings?
Seems like a double standard, and leads me to believe these people just get a kick out of making small animals suffer and they're completely dishonest about their noble intentions.
It's particularly sickening when we consider the hypocrisy of the most environmentally destructive species on earth criticising and viciously murdering a mildly destructive species whose destructiveness they themselves are responsible for causing, on top of the rest of the destruction they're responsible for, which makes the march of the cane toad insignificant.
They've just become a symbol of how terribly we've assaulted the earth and people crush them to ease their own guilt and shame, and achieve an erection in some cases.

 

Brian:

Heh. I could argue that the Cane Toads are native, since they were born here. They've probably been here longer than some human immigrants.

I think that the Cane Toad debacle is overexaggerated.

 

"encouraging people to think up cruel ways to kill cane toads is undeniably in poor form."

Very well worded all your response , & i totally agree encouraging people in anyway to kill anything is wrong.

 

Your family is not native to Australia Brian, you said your parents are from the uk, i am sure you are thriving in Queensland too, and some there may regard you as a pest, although i dont, do you think you should be gassed or hit over the head with a golf club.

I am sure there are better ways to deal with enviromental problems, than to ask your population to run around clubbing things to death, this is caveman mentality, ask the seals in canada about it.

Clubbing things to death resolves nothing, as with the seals of canada & the frogs of OZ, it just shows how little we have developed since our caveman peroid.

 

They were introduced in the early 20th century to supposedly control pests , however they have thrived to a point where they are a pest .

Yeah along with the introduced rabbit plague or the fox’s , get real these introduced animals have almost devastated our fauna . I mean just take feral cats and the damage they have accomplished .

Unfortunately your point I am a human and humans in the form of Aborigines have inhabitated this continent for 40,000 years so I as a human am endemic to the fauna here . However these cane toads are introduced and exist simply on instinct and as such these toads to create an environment suitable for themselves have destroyed the habitat of many other marine life as well as invade human areas and are creating a serious health risk .

In the 1950’s Australia to control the damage introduced rabbits were causing infected the rabbit population with the mixamitosis virus . Seals are indigenous to Canada the Cane toads are native to Ceylon not Australia .

I trust here by your concern that you are a Buddhist convert Vincent , and probably walk around with a face mask so as not to kill a gnat and are a vegetarian . I suppose what we could do is deport all 6 billion cane toads back to Ceylon that should make you happy .

 

"Unfortunately your point I am a human and humans in the form of Aborigines have inhabitated this continent for 40,000 years"

I noticed there brian you see yourself as a man without borders, no mention of your immigrant family history in oz, no doubt on that point then, you will see jews as humans to, & as humans they have inhabitated the middle east for thousands of years??????


The kangaroo is indigenous to OZ, yet i often see OZ farmers in helicopters going on a shooting cull of these kangaroos, even though they are a symbol of OZ now they are considered a pest too, as they roam the outback in there thousands.

Maybe the Oz government should give everyone a club to start clubbing the kangaroos too.

Now the crocodiles are also becoming a pest in Darwin there numbers are the highest ever, maybe we can all start clubbing them to death to.



"I suppose what we could do is deport all 6 billion cane toads back to Ceylon that should make you happy"

no send them to me, i will open up the first world, cane toad nature reserve in bangkok.


Brian put away your club, you are not a caveman your ancestors were.

 

No I see Jews as a religious group who have Fucked over a group of Human beings the Palestininas and evicted them from their lands .

You are a Buddhist arent you Vincent that is why you avoided answeribng that question .

 

I embrace all peaceful religons as my own brian, & you avoided answering the question on the mass cullings of kangaroos in OZ, what is there crime apart from making Oz famous, oh they breeded to fast, time to get the clubs out again or in this case rifles.

Im not for culling anything man or beast, nature takes its own course, & the strong will survive, who are we to interfere in nature, & interference in nature could lead to our downfall, with the knock on effects.

 

Does anyone find it strange that the very people who say we should be blowing up the middle east are the ones who are saying that killing the caine toad is wrong????

anyway they are killing off native frogs and its against the law in a lot of area's NOT to kill them (like carp in that respect) and they need to be delt with.

 

of and b\w vince crocs are a protected species. NO ONE is alowed to kill them, not even the ones that find there way into urban area's

 

vincent:

Well, you could say that we interfered with nature in the first place by importing the Cane Toad. Now we are trying to fix our mistake.

 

they have no choice but to opennly as a country try and reduce their numbers..

i mean come on.... were are talking alot of toads.... alot.

just like the rabbits

-MT

 

Asguard
I am aware of that, my point is there are calls in Oz to cull them, due to there fantastic breeding rate, no doubt from eating dozy tourists who are forever swimming or cat napping around croc rivers.

Although i sometimes i have a aggressive tone about muslims, the reality is i mean them no harm, sensible people learn the value of all life animal or human or insect, as a child we kill bee's, even a bird if where stupid enough, its when you see life dying in front of you, that is when, most learn the value of all life on earth.

My exception are mosquitoes and rampaging electric ants in my home, hell bent on living in my computer or mobile phone, or light switch, we have food ants in thailand & electric ants that seem to have no interest in food, but just love being electrically charged.

 

Who says a Jew must live in Israel to be a Zionist ?
And tell me what do you think of a religion which believes they are a chosen people people and that Blacks cannot be Jews because they are of a cursed seed ?

And as for anti-Semitism .

Its a myth pure and simple /