Maybe not the best thread to be in but since there is a lot of east/west in here...


What do you have for comments on the attack on the UN headquarters in Bagdad?

I mainly target this question to the arab people in here.

Murder.

These must have been some confused amature terrorists, what the heck had the UN done so far except try to administrate the reconstruction... they havnt even really goten down to that yet.

Originally posted by SpyMoose
what the heck had the UN done so far

Maybe you should ask, what the heck had the UN not done so far.

Originally posted by Flores
Maybe you should ask, what the heck had the UN not done so far.


*clap*

Lets blow up people that doesnt please us

Originally posted by Judas
*clap*

Lets blow up people that doesnt please us

Perhaps you should start with yourself, simply get your head out of the gutter, and apply your lack of prudence in treating others comments and blow me personally up for asking an innocent valid question on giving an account on what have an organization not done so far?

Originally posted by Flores
Maybe you should ask, what the heck had the UN not done so far.

Flores, would you please enumerate for us the things that the UN has not done so far?

I honestly dont know why somone with a terrorists point of view would want to attack the UN HQ when they are currently bairly involved in all the things in the middle east that have been sturing up all the bad blood recently.

Originally posted by Flores
Maybe you should ask, what the heck had the UN not done so far. Do you really think so? What level of 'not doing' justifies the attack in your eyes? What subset of infidels are you willing to take out for inaction? Or is your inaction simply cowardice?

Early speculation is that it has something to do with Iraqi resentment toward the UN for the years of sanctions.

Unfortunately, it turns out they blew up the guy who had the wherewithal to save them from the Americans, or so it goes.

:m:,
Tiassa :cool:

Shit happens. Maybe the lack of brain on the terrorists can cause some not-so-well-thought actions...

I can't believe that the news here make any deal out of any bombing in Iraq. For god sake, Iraq is a war zone, you don't expect to have nightly concerts in a war zone do you? Or is it only the US with the right to bomb and not make news and when a non US fire happens, it's damn terrorism. So Mr. Bush's double standard is completely accepted by everybody? When we kill the Iraqis, it goes like, today our heros accomplished and killed more terrorists, and when one of our soldier dies, it's the damn terrorist who killed our hero. Mr. UN headquarter dude job description was just like any soldier. He was in a war zone providing aid. Shit happens, people die in wars by millions, it's crazy to make a big deal about one person....Actually it's flat out disrespectfull to lower a flag for one person, while hundreds die daily and not even get the midnight news. This is disrespectfull to all veterans.

Does anyone of you know what is going on today? The US government is renovating the plane that was used to throw the bomb on Heroshima......We are honoring the darn plane that killed millions.....Politics make me sick....

In Japan they have musuems and merchandise about being bombed. They act like it was an honor.

Originally posted by ScrollMaker
In Japan they have musuems and merchandise about being bombed. They act like it was an honor.

Any other way and they would be called terrorists or worse communists.

Originally posted by Flores
Perhaps you should start with yourself, simply get your head out of the gutter, and apply your lack of prudence in treating others comments and blow me personally up for asking an innocent valid question on giving an account on what have an organization not done so far?


Perhaps YOU should start with YOURself. Simply get YOUR head
out of YOUR ass.

Are you that ignorant that you cant tell the differnce between
bombing people responsible for genocide and bombing civilians?
If we lived in the 1940`s, would you say it would be wrong to bomb Berlin?Why cant democrasy bre imposed with bombs?
It worked for Germany. DO i need to remind you that Germany
were responsible for 2 ww`s? Take a look at Germany now!
Take a look at Japan now. Read some Japaneese history.
Se how the Japaneese were before WW2.And look at em
now. they were nuked TWICE, and now they are the strongest
echonomy in Asia. How bout that? They learned the hard way!

Puts things in perspectie.....doesnt it?

Judas, here we go again. Once again you impress me with your incredible way of express yourself.

My post was directed toward peope who are interested in a reality check and you are not remotely associated with that list. You need to get your nose out of the monkey's butt in the future, and yes I'm the monkey, or I might just crap all over you.

PS... It would help if you stopped showing your ignorance for once and started looking at life real data instead of the stupid made up nonworking models that you are fed from first grade....What's next, are you going to tell me that Washington DC is recieving thank you letters from the native indians for showing them what civilization is all about....

But, afterall, little innocent donkeys grow up to be bigger louder asses and I really have no good news or hope for your case.

Originally posted by Robban
Judas, here we go again. Once again you impress me with your incredible way of express yourself.

next time, stick to religion, this thread have no place on this forum, or are you too chicken to discuss politics in politics forum with politics posters.

And while you are at it, wipe that brown spot on your nose, Judas is leaking again.

Originally posted by Flores
yes I'm the monkey

What's next, are you going to tell me that Washington DC is recieving thank you letters from the native indians for showing them what civilization is all about....



I knew you were a monkey all along. Yes, i do belive Washington
Dc receives thank you letters from the Native Indians.

I do not wish to lower myself to your level, involving name
calling and labeling. I suspect youre nothing more than a mere
child. That doesnt receive enough attention from mom and dad.

You bore me.


Kind Regards Judas.
Resident Bad Guy.

Originally posted by Flores
next time, stick to religion, this thread have no place on this forum, or are you too chicken to discuss politics in politics forum with politics posters.

And while you are at it, wipe that brown spot on your nose, Judas is leaking again.

Isnt this topic located in the religion folder?
Im not afraid in having a serious debate with you.
As long as you explain the reason for your opinions.


Try me, and ill slapp you so hard you would like it.

Originally posted by Judas
I suspect youre nothing more than a mere
child. That doesnt receive enough attention from mom and dad.


Thanks for the compliment. A US governmnet employee, MS, in environmental engineering, working happily mother of two loves to hear such compiliments regarding her age. And, don't worry about my parents, my PHD ex-mehcanical engineer professor dad has purchased the house next to me to dedicate himself as a full time nanny to my children. I can't ask for more.

Here's some photos courtesy of the happy flores family, now go grow up, get a career and make some babies.
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=5756&perpage=20&pagenumber=59

aah.. quite a cutie i must say:cool:

Originally posted by Flores
Thanks for the compliment. A US governmnet employee, MS, in environmental engineering,


With stats like that,one could expect better spelling.
And thats coming from me, and English isnt even my native tounge.

Judas: Stop bein such a pain in the ass and try to be constructive in your posts. You just had you look up a missspelling in the posting.

Originally posted by Judas
With stats like that,one could expect better spelling.
And thats coming from me, and English isnt even my native tounge.

Perhaps you should stop expecting and assuming and consider the fact that it's not my native language either along with 4 more languages that I speak....plus the fact that my keyboard is flying while my typing and I'm not about to go back and check for stupid errors because Mr. Judas have a thorne in his butt.

flying?

Originally posted by Flores
Perhaps you should stop expecting and assuming and consider the fact that it's not my native language either along with 4 more languages that I speak....plus the fact that my keyboard is flying while my typing and I'm not about to go back and check for stupid errors because Mr. Judas have a thorne in his butt.

Perhaps you should just stop beeing so damn millitant, then
perhaps life will be better. Its obvious to me that you have some issues.

Dont bother to reply. My opinion about you is stated above.

Originally posted by Judas
Perhaps you should just stop beeing so damn millitant, then
perhaps life will be better. Its obvious to me that you have some issues.

Dont bother to reply. My opinion about you is stated above.

YOUR OPINION ABOUT ME.......I'm laughing my heads off right now, this is fuckin hilarious. I suggest you wet YOUR OPINION ABOUT ME, squeeze it hard, and drink the extracted water, for that's how much it's worth....carefull to squeeze all the water out, you don't want to loose worth here.

oh, how convineant for you. You personally attack me, and when I give you your medecine back, you immediately gag. Perhaps next time you'll think twice before initiating a discussion with me.

And funny you say militant, would you start with yourself and stop giving me orders on whether I should reply or not. I reply when and to whoever I want, and on this instance I prefer to continue sticking your thorn deeper in your ass.

Flores, you should consider that people only start attacking you in cases like these because you say very stupid stuff.

Your point is well taken persol.....Do I assume that you are trying to take Judas place here, or do you wish to reconsider?

Originally posted by Flores
YOUR OPINION ABOUT ME.......I'm laughing my heads off right now, this is fuckin hilarious. I suggest you wet YOUR OPINION ABOUT ME, squeeze it hard, and drink the extracted water, for that's how much it's worth....carefull to squeeze all the water out, you don't want to loose worth here.

oh, how convineant for you. You personally attack me, and when I give you your medecine back, you immediately gag. Perhaps next time you'll think twice before initiating a discussion with me.

And funny you say militant, would you start with yourself and stop giving me orders on whether I should reply or not. I reply when and to whoever I want, and on this instance I prefer to continue sticking your thorn deeper in your ass.

Im glad the internet is offering you some joy in life.
Obviously, that is something your hard hitting husband is failing to do. Ohh and please.....spare me the bad metaphor. It just
makes you seam pathetic.

Ill have a burger and fries to go with that.

Judas is a troll
He always wants some more
Judas here, Judas there
That troll is fuckin everywhere.


PS. Use the ring around the rosie rythem for best results.

Originally posted by Flores
Judas is a troll
He always wants some more
Judas here, Judas there
That troll is fuckin everywhere.


PS. Use the ring around the rosie rythem for best results.


And you are the sunlight that will make me burst?
You see, the more you hate me the more entertaining this get.
Your lack of understanding and people skills has gotten this debate where it is now. Creating poems about trolls?

*sigh*


Want me to make a poem and dedicate it to you?

Originally posted by Robban
Judas: Stop bein such a pain in the ass.


*slaps Robban*


Quiet and bendover!

Originally posted by Flores
Does anyone of you know what is going on today? The US government is renovating the plane that was used to throw the bomb on Heroshima......We are honoring the darn plane that killed millions.....Politics make me sick....
and this has what exatly to do with the UN bomings?

QUOTE]Originally posted by Ren
and this has what exatly to do with the UN bomings? [/QUOTE]

I don't know what you are getting at, but I'll give you the benfit of the doubt and assume that you mean acquiring more information from me and not confirming your bias about my opinions.

Robban started a political thread in a religion forum, that is only allowed to survive so far because either Cris our moderator is asleep or because he's laughing his head off at this... Anyhow, I entered this thread because I'm sick and tired of the skewed mind sets regarding the whole war againest terrorism and the was in Iraq issues. it's my opinion that the news is selective, skewed, decietfull, and at best misleading in it's news making, and thus brain washing and subjecting it's citizens to few selected incidents that it chose to call headlines to saturate the minds of the viewers with biased information. I feel that news of the renovation of the plane that hit Heroshema deserves as much highlight as a stray bombing in a war ridden country.

I also feel that the covering of the war on Iraq is overly done for an evil purpose of destracting the people of more important domestic and international news, and my proof of this is that there is currently over hundreds of conflicts happening over the world, in which Iraq is so minute in the amount dead and destruction, yet we only hear what the anti middle east crowd wants us to hear....And people like you don't care or dare question anything else.

Here's just a 2001 list of conflicts, now it's your turn to justify why the big deal and skewed news about 15 dead in a country that the US announced a WAR againest.

List of 2001 World Conflicts

The National Defense Council Foundation's list of the 59 countries found to have endured serious conflicts this year:


Algeria: Internal strife and terror attacks caused by Islamic extremists (such as the Armed Islamic Group and the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat) and Berber secessionists in the Kabylie region.

Angola: Rebellion by UNITA.

Bangladesh: Violence surrounding the election.

Bolivia: Clash between government troops and coca farmers; Charges of government using paramilitary forces.

Burundi: Rebellion by FNL (Hutus) against Tutsi-dominated government.

Cameroon: Secessionist protests turned violent, army called out; border dispute with Central African Republic flared up.

Central African Republic: Failed coup against President Felix Patasse; Rebels under former Army Chief General Francois Bozize fighting the government forces, which are backed by Libyan forces. New to list.

Chad: Rebel group in North (MDJT) fighting government forces, want President Idriss Deby to resign.

China: Uighur Muslim separatists in Xinjiang province; violent suppression of Falun Gong movement.

Colombia: Drug war; rebel groups against government forces and paramilitaries.

Comoros: Violent coup on island of Anjouan, which declared independence four years ago.

Democratic Republic of the Congo (formerly Zaire): Assassination of President Laurent Kabila; civil war featuring government forces (joined by forces from Angola, Namibia and Zimbabwe) against MLC rebel forces (backed by Uganda and Rwanda, who believe Congo was a breeding ground for rebels in their own countries.)

East Timor: Militia violence; election violence; religious violence (Muslims vs. Christians).

Gambia: Violence preceding the re-election of President Yahya Jammeh; Senegalese separatists in Casamance may also be operating there. New to list.

Georgia: Chechen separatists in Abkhazia.

Ghana: Ethnic and political fighting between the Mamprusi and Kusasi in Northeast; excessive violent crime. New to list.

Guinea: Cross-border attacks by RUF rebels from Sierra Leone backed by Liberia; refugee crisis.

Guinea-Bissau: Government forces fight with Senegalese Casamance rebels that crossed the border.

Haiti: Attempted coup against President Jean-Bertrand Aristide and government raids in response; political violence; labor unrest.

India: Dispute with Pakistan over Kashmir; separatists in caste province of Assam.

Indonesia: Separatists in Aceh; ethnic violence on Borneo between Madurese and Dayak; political violence in East Java; religious violence on Sulawesi Island blamed on Laskar Jihad.


Afghanistan: Continuing civil war between northern alliance and Taliban forces; the U.S. military campaign against terrorism; one of the world's leading sources for opium trafficking.

Iran: People's Mujahideen continue violence; drug trafficking and related violence; political unrest due to war in Afghanistan.

Iraq: Air strikes by U.S. and allied aircraft enforcing no-fly zones.

Israel: The new intifada and the Israeli response to it; crackdown on terrorist organizations.

Ivory Coast: Attempted coup against President Laurent Gbagbo; attempted countercoup; mutiny within the army; violent election followed by political and ethnic violence.

Jamaica: Political related gang warfare in Kingston; army accused of instigating further violence when called out. New to list.

Kenya: Ethnic violence in Nairobi slums between Nubian landlords and Luo tenants. New to list.

Kosovo: Continued interethnic violence; drug trafficking; organized crime.

Kyrgystan: Kidnapping and murder by Uighur militants from Xinjiang province of China.

Lebanon: Israel strikes a radar station, shoots down a light plane, strikes Hezbollah operating in Lebanon.

Liberia: Dissidents of the United Liberation Movement fighting the government in North.

Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia: Ethnic fighting between Macedonians and Albanian National Liberation Army; organized crime. New to list.

Malawi: Political violence preceding election. New to list.

Malaysia: Ethnic violence between Malays and Indians; drug and gang violence. New to list.

Myanmar (Burma): Fighting between government forces and the Shan State Army, a guerrilla group seeking independence for the Shan ethnic minority.

Nepal: Maoist insurgency; murder of royal family.

Nigeria: Religious fighting between Christians and Muslims; ethnic fighting between Egon and Tiv groups.

Pakistan: Dispute with India over Kashmir; terror attacks/bombings.

Papua New Guinea: Mutiny by soldiers over army downsizing; violent protests over economic reforms. New to list.

Philippines: Muslim separatists; election violence.

Russian Federation: Chechnya conflict.

Senegal: Secessionist rebels continuing 18-year struggle in Casamance province.

Sierra Leone: RUF rebels and pro-government militias fight in the North; Guinea conducting anti-RUF airstrikes.

Somalia: Warlords undermining transitional government; possible terrorist haven.

Spain: Continuing terror attacks by Basque separatists.

Sri Lanka: Tamil Tiger separatist rebels; election violence.

Sudan: Christians and animists (SPLA) fighting Muslim-dominated government.

Tajikistan: Russian border guards skirmish with Afghans.

Tanzania: Political violence surrounding disputed election; separatist violence by Civic United Front in Zanzibar. New to list.

Thailand: Fighting in Myanmar has spilled over; terror bombings.

Turkey: Underground militant groups; ambush of soldiers; prison riots and related demonstrations; terror bombings; Kurdish rebels resume fight with army.

Uganda: Election violence; rural crime.

United Kingdom: Renewed violence in Northern Ireland.

United States of America: Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. New to list.

Uzbekistan: Repeated terrorist incidents, ambushes, narcotics trafficking. Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan associated with al Qaeda.

Yemen: Violence surrounding constitutional referendum; small arms proliferation; hotbed of Islamic militant extremism.

Yugoslavia: Ethnic Albanian secessionists in Presevo; narcotics trafficking; organized crime.

Zimbabwe: Violent land reform; election violence; violence against journalists; political fighting.

I most humbly appopogize for starting this thead in religion, but I must say it was rather amusing.

BUT I did have a point. Since quite some threads seem to end up in some kind of clash of civilizations between east/west I find it interesting to hear what the east-people has to say about such an event.

And since religion today is politics alot more that teology I thought it was not that missplaced after all.