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zonabi
04-23-04, 01:53 PM
hi friends

not having proper equipment or access nearby to any, i have to post this question here to gain some answers.

the simple question is:

have there been any wierd or unusual occurences in the regular sky patterns as of late ?

how about the position of the sky ?
is it consistant with previous years?

i hope some of you can actually provide some useful information.

thanks in advance

eburacum45
04-23-04, 03:23 PM
There has been plenty of interesting things to see recently, but nothing that you would call wierd; everything has been in the right place and so on; but it has been an interesting few months.

About a month ago all the main planets and the cresent Moon were in the sky together; I call this occurence the 'Full House' and it doesnt happen very often.

Also a week ago I saw a flare or reflection from an Iridium satellite; these happen at predictable times and are well worth seeing.

In a month or so we may have one, or even two naked eye comets; an unusual occurence in itself.

But weird;
depends what you are looking for.
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cosmictraveler
04-23-04, 05:02 PM
About a month or so ago an asteroid came withing 250,000 miles of hitting the Earth. It was large enough to wipe out millions of people if it were to have hit.Were we lucky again! :eek:

FieryIce
04-24-04, 09:21 AM
Well the sky seems in the same place it has been for years...j/k

Actually there are some anamolies in our sky that were not in our sky 35 years ago, such as
http://epod.usra.edu/archive/images/cirruscloud.jpg

On a personal note, a few years ago (and somewhat lately) I have gone out my back door to call the kids in for bed and noticed the setting sun was going down past the hill in the distance in the wrong place, totally setting in the wrong place. I remember standing there with my mouth open thinking, what the heck? But it was not something that was documented, just one of those everyday life occurences one notices when keeping theirs eyes open and being observant.
:D

Communist Hamster
04-24-04, 01:29 PM
There is a flashing light in the sky, its always in the same place, and it flashes white, green and red. any ideas?

FieryIce
04-28-04, 09:10 AM
or how about these:

http://epod.usra.edu/archive/images/pararctang_amp_circum9072003sombre2.jpg
Halo Complex Above Belgium (http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=151072)

or

http://epod.usra.edu/archive/images/circumzenithal_arc_020703.jpg
Circumzenithal Arc Above Memphis (http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=165024)

:D

craterchains (Norval
04-28-04, 09:22 AM
There are many strange anomalous atmospheric conditions that are scientifically explained as to how they form,,, but no answers as to WHY we never saw these anomalies till just a few years ago.

That is the interesting part.

zonabi
04-28-04, 12:51 PM
i saw an EXTREME rainbow-halo around the sun 2 days ago, i noticed it because of my Polarized Sunglasses, which brought the Rainbow Colors out.

i was amazed, so i took my shades off, and i could see a faint halo around the Sun.
with the glasses on it was much clearer, i could see the entire halo around the Sun.

the Halo's radius was bigger than my open hand (with an outstreched arm)

that means it was pretty friggin huge.

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also, anyone else reporting strange cloud formations in their areas? i sure have, coupled with those fucking chem trails left and right.

TruthSeeker
04-28-04, 01:35 PM
I've seen huge halo too, a few days ago...

FieryIce
04-28-04, 08:27 PM
TruthSeeker, don't you call that a doughnut?
LOL

TruthSeeker
04-29-04, 12:10 PM
Well... it didn't look like a doughnut.
Besides, I'm restraining myself from eating doughnuts.... it's not so healthy :p :D

eburacum45
04-30-04, 04:45 AM
These halos and parhelia are not unusual at all; all that is changed is that people are more aware of them, thanks to such sites as Earth Science Picture of the Day http://epod.usra.edu/about.php3
and Sundog/clara
http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/halo/halosim.htm

these things are marvellous, and worthy of detailed study; however they are not anything to be concerned about. For instance there are no such things as chemtrails.
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craterchains (Norval
05-02-04, 05:18 PM
Didn’t I just state that it is known HOW these strange phenomena can occur, but WHEN were these strange light shows first noticed and recorded?

That I think will shed some more “light” on the subject if that were known. It will probably be discovered with some research and investigations that many of the “modern times” atmospheric phenomena are only recent developments.

JUDGECAL
05-09-04, 08:04 AM
Greetings all,

Ok....I need some expert opinion.

I frequent several BBS's and I have now seen this topic posted on 3 different boards. (see attached posts from one of those boards in blue)

The topic being that the moon isn't rising or setting on time and also the orbit seems to be shifting in the wrong direction for this early in the summer.

I would like to know,

1. Is this true? (is the moon late?)
2. Is the sun rising, setting, and traversing the heavens properly?
3. What could cause such perturbances? (a large mass coming into the gravitical sphere of influence on our respective orbits?)

Anyhow, I'm just really confused and don't know enough of the subject to know if this is actually occuring or not and would apreciate anyones help i clearing up this matter.

I mean, when was the last time you went out with a watch and a list of moonrise timetables and checked if all is well in our corner of the solar system?

Thanks,
JC :)




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MAD MAX MOON WANTONLY WANES WOEFULLY LATE AGAIN!

Posted By: CliffMickelson
Date: Friday, 7 May 2004, 2:43 p.m.

They say that there is virtue in regularity.

I say then, that this moon of our is proving itself to be virtually always, regularly late! (of late, that is!)

I have regularly been making that statement of late, by virtue of the lately regular use of the US Navy Moonrise/set chart which can be found at virtually any time by a regular virtual visit to:

http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/

Now, it comes down to this:

Either the US Navy astronomers are suffering from toxic salt-water shock, or our poor benighted Mr. Moon doesn't know how to read his own chart!

Here is last night's data: Read'em and scratch the ol' noggin!

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The following information is provided for Yakima, Yakima County, Washington (longitude W120.5, latitude N46.6): by the US Navy.

USN Chart time of moon rise for May 6, 2004 ......11:28 Pacific Daylight time

***

The following information is provided for RUMOR MILL NEWS Readers, NOT living in Yakima Washington (longitude W120.5, latitude N46.6) by CliffMickelson!

Actual time of moon rise for May 6, 2004 .....12:18 May 7, 2004 Pacific Daylight time!

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Yup! That's right, folks! The moon didn't rise here on May 6! It rose on May 7 @ 12:18 in the AM!
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THERE WAS NO MOON RISE ON MAY 6, 2004!

The total time of tardiness of Terra's errant lunar friend?

50 minuets! That's an increase of 7 min. over last night!

(for last nights info see my post)

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bi....cgi?read=48393

**

Now, here is another interesting little tidbit. As we all know, the waning moon rises after the summer equinox a bit farther to the East each succeeding night, until finally the waning crescent moon is only a few dozen degrees off of magnetic north by the early morning hours.

Now, I can't say for certain, but this pattern should hold true regardless of the time of year. Perhaps not, but since I can't find any information to the contrary, but we will soon find out next month, following June 21.

I spend hundreds of hours outside at night, both winter and summer. Since February, the waning moon has been rising farther in the WEST each consecutive night, instead of farther to the EAST!

Last night the moon rose at this latitude at approx. 120 degrees east south east of magnetic north.

The night before, (May 4, 2004) was the first night of the waning moon. On that night the moon rose 43 min. late (according to the Navy chart) and it rose at approx. 115 degrees east, southeast of magnetic north.

That's a westward drift of 5 degrees to the West in the course of 24 hours. This is in keeping with the recent behavior over the last three months. The Westward drift, SHOULD slow down as the moon increasingly wanes. That would be the pattern it has exhibited since February. The question is: Why is it moving each consecutive night farther west at all?

Stay tuned for more lunacy this evening!

-CliffMickelson
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I've had other people pm me and I've read all over the net people saying the moon AND the sun are not rising in the right spots.

I watch the sky constantly, but am not an astronomer or real student. I just like to watch.

But it did hit me as strange, never noticing the moon deviate as much as I saw months ago. The moon does have an erratic orbit, but not so strange that suddenly hundreds of people on the net notice it for the first time in their lives. THAT is what I find really strange.

Now, I noticed about 2 months ago that SKY and TELESCOPE data did not match The Old Farmer's Almanac per the moon rising and set times. They were off by an hour or so. I thought that was strange cause though only a very casual reader of Almanac, I always was under the impression that you could set your watch by it.

Jed recently contacted me and said he thought the moon was wayyy to far south.

.....................................

Now, I just checked Sky and Telescope. It is showing the moon rising at about 1 am tonight, wayyyy south, from where I am. For a year the moon has been not quite directly overhead. I will keep a close watch IF I stay up that late.

BUT, the Almanac, says the moon should have risen at 12:20 am in my area. 10 minutes ago. Let me go look .....................

No moon yet. And these two sources are off by an hour as to when the moon should rise.

Communist Hamster
05-09-04, 08:39 AM
Can someone please tell me what that flashing light is? its always in the same position in the sky, and it flashes white, red and green.

craterchains (Norval
05-09-04, 01:57 PM
Maybe it’s because people are too busy to notice such common things? As I live on a boat and have to be aware of the tides (we have an average of a 13 foot tide here) it is note worthy that a few times I and others have been caught off guard by odd tides. Yes some here have commented on the suns rise, or set and the moon as being off time and position also.

And NOTHING in the news?!?!?

Hamster, possibly an airport beacon in the distance?

Communist Hamster
05-09-04, 02:03 PM
i dont live anywhere near an airport, and its too far up in the air for that

curioucity
05-09-04, 11:05 PM
Midday halo? Wow, you're lucky..... I only see moonlight halo so far....

eburacum45
05-10-04, 04:19 AM
The flashing light is Sirius, in all probability.
As far as the Moon rising and setting at the wrong time, no, that is not happening.
The Moon is not quite on the ecliptic; sometimes it does not rise exactly where you might expect without looking at the whole geometry of the situation.

Have you adjusted for daylight saving time?

TruthSeeker
05-11-04, 01:49 PM
i dont live anywhere near an airport, and its too far up in the air for that
It's an UFO!!!! :D

Hamster? Are you still there?
Haaaaam...steeeeeeeerrrrrr...!!!!! :D
Oh no! We lost Hamster! He was abducted by the big headed green aliens with antenas on their heads!
Buuahhhaha!!!

Aaaaaaanyways... :D

FieryIce
05-11-04, 02:02 PM
Could this be a reason why there are anamolies in our atmosphere?

http://www.tmgnow.com/IMAGES/GOES8_0206010632.jpg

or this?

http://www.tmgnow.com/IMAGES/texas_cube_clip2.jpg

Interesting Reading (http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/repository.html)
:D

Communist Hamster
05-12-04, 03:19 AM
Dont be stupid, the aliens would not abduct me, for i am one! muwahahaha, oops ive blown my cover.
Seriously, though, what do you think it is?