Many people follow astrology to guide their every day lives. Many others read the atsrology columns in newspapers and magazines. Does anyone here believe any of that drivel? And if so then why? Cris PS. If you want to view my horoscope then my data is 17/Sep/1952, 8pm GMT, 0E15 Long, 51N26 Lat. EDIT to add Chart link from strGrl - Astrology Chart Follow the link and run your own analysis. Have fun.
Cris Can you give your birth place and state? I cant for the life of me find where to convert the longitude, latitude... If you can provide the exact time you were born - I can get a better profile. I think its more for entertainment, but my profile is me to a tee. And every profile Ive done for people, is always exactly like them. Groove on
Well i fit being a leo perfectly and i warn EVERYONE never to take my sister shopping (shes a libran and acts it to) I don't know wether to belive it or not cause i always thought they were crap but i keep seeing istances of the daily ones fitting my life. I just think there funny and im not going to hid under the bed if it says im going to die
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stRgrl, Longitude 0 and latitude 51 = London England. Exact time is not known. It is estimated to be within +-10 mins of 8pm GMT. Have fun Cris
Asguard Ahhaaaahaaaa.... Thats pretty funnyPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Do you know when I go to a restauraunt - I literally have to make someone else choose what I order. Unless Im in the mood for something. Gosh were thee most undecisive peoples on this planetPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Cris - Im running it now - Ill post it a little later on Groove on
Heck no By all gods no. Primarily (as I understand it anyway) because it goes about saying that anybody born on a certain date has a certain behavior or personality characteristics. Example (not that it may say this, but from everything I've read of it), saying that someone born in March is a hyper and talkitive person no matter what - and after meeting 500 people born in March, you might find 497 that are talkitive, and 3 that are relaxed and quiet/shy. The Zodiac Brave Story. Shall we have a cup of tea? If they want to say people who are generally born on certain dates behave in certain ways, fine. But I would never jump to a conclusion or make an assumption without knowing, of who someone is because they were born on a certain date. Oh, and BTW, I don't believe in "gods" - just another phrase from a good ole place. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I believe in a creator, but not gods. Gibberish? Uh, don't you mean rubbish? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Astrology is made up by humans. It is a very smart 'system' though. If you take every single human being, their birth time, place, and date of birth, there can be made a personal horoscope. It looks at your Zodiac sign, your ascendant, which is located in opposite of your Zodiac/birth sign, and your descendant and a lot more. It is a complicated calculation system, which gives often a clear vision of the one for who the horoscope is calculated. Horoscopes in newspapers, magazines and so on, are not accurate. The general meaning of the Zodiac signs, have a touch of base-truth in them. Often people are different from what the general meaning gives in this. A personal horoscope may surprise you, it can say a lot about your personality. Now-a-days, the calculation is easy, because of the computers in which you can put the information and it calculates in a jiffy. I used to do it by hand, worked pretty well. Keep in mind please, that it is a made up thingy, not always true and/or accurate...Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
It is a very smart 'system' though. If you take every single human being, their birth time, place, and date of birth, there can be made a personal horoscope. So if a group of people from around the world are born in the same instant they would have an identical horoscope. Especially if the mothers of everyone of these people happened to be traveling to the same place and their children were born in the same hospital and then the very next day they all returned to their place of origins and lived out their lives. What astrology infers is that this group of individuals have exactly the same horoscopes, hence exactly the same future. It is a complicated calculation system, which gives often a clear vision of the one for who the horoscope is calculated. Impossible. The example above completely disproves that theory. Horoscopes in newspapers, magazines and so on, are not accurate. The general meaning of the Zodiac signs, have a touch of base-truth in them. What base-truth? There is no truth whatsoever in astrology. The Zodiac signs are simply made up of distant objects that have absolutely nothing to do with each other and nothing to do with us. Their coordinates in the universe are ever changing. Those "pictures" that are the Zodiac signs will not be there in the future. What of astrology then? A personal horoscope may surprise you, it can say a lot about your personality. What a load of crap. I've yet to see anything that can accurately describe someone's personality. They are simple generalities inherent in all humans. Keep in mind please, that it is a made up thingy, not always true and/or accurate... Exactly. It is a complete crapshoot. I could tell you more about you're personality in 5 minutes just by asking a few simple questions. Astrology is little more than mild mindless entertainment for the rational. As for the irrational.... Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Cris, here goes... General Personality Characteristics At heart you are modest and humble, and you rarely strive to be in the limelight or in a position of power. You have a sharp analytical mind, a keen eye for detail, and you prefer to observe, dissect, and study life from a distance. Conscientious and conservative, you can be relied upon to be careful, efficient, and thorough in your work and you take pride in doing a job well. What you may lack in self-confidence you often make up for in skill - developing expertise, technical knowledge, and competency in some specialized area. You are adept at using your hands to create or fix things, and meticulous attention to detail and careful craftsmanship are your forte. Some would say you are a little TOO meticulous, for you can be extremely critical and petty if everything is not done exactly as you think it should be, and you worry about things that other people consider trivial and unimportant. You like to organize, categorize, and arrange everything into a logical system, and you are often distinctly uncomfortable when something does not fit into a neat category. Disorganization vexes you. You probably wish that you were not such a perfectionist, for besides being a stickler for details, you can be mercilessly self-critical as well. Whether in your environment or in yourself, you tend to focus on the flaws, with a desire to improve, refine, and perfect. You are strictly factual, truthful, and scrupulously honest in your self-estimation, and you often do not give yourself enough praise or credit. You are also highly discriminating and may be especially particular about your diet, hygiene, and health habits. You have high aesthetic standards and refined sensitivities, and will be bothered by elements in your surroundings (such as disorder, cigarette smoke, etc.) that others overlook. Your tastes are simple, understated, but refined. Coarseness, bluntness, and vulgarity really offend you. You can be difficult to live with sometimes because of your fastidiousness, your sensitivity, and your idiosyncrasies about food and cleanliness. Though you seem rather cool and self-contained, you have a very helpful nature and you enjoy serving others. You are content to be in a supportive, assisting role rather than in the lead. You are quietly devoted to the ones you care for. You are careful and cautious in your approach to life, realistic, practical, and disinclined to gamble. You analyze before you act. You are too serious sometimes. Allowing yourself to play and to make mistakes would be HEALTHY for you! Mental Interests and Abilities You are an exacting perfectionist with a clear, logical, analytical mind and an aptitude for work that requires meticulous attention to detail and efficient organization. Well-grounded and pragmatic, you tend to develop specialized skills and technical expertise in some practical field. Knowledge, ideas, and theories don't really interest you unless they are useful in a tangible way. You are inclined to analyze, measure, and dissect everything and to miss nuances, subtle shades of feeling and meaning. Your strengths are in your precise thinking, careful craftsmanship, and mastery of technical skills. You tend to be very good at what you do and critical of others' work if it does not meet your high standards. Soo.... is it anything like you??? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Hey, what site did you get that profile from, strgrl? just curious what it has to say about me. I dont really believe in it, I dont really not believe in it, but I cant disproove something until I find proof that it doesn't exist. Stranger things have existed. Take edgar cayce for example. I dont believe everything he says......but you cant deny that he has done some pretty amazing things.
Elbaz This is the one I got it from, its free and you have the option of buying a more detailed version. Im sure theres other places on the web to get em. Astrology Chart Have fun!
There may be something to it, but ... There may be something to astrology, but hardly in the sense that we get from newspapers or Starscrolls at the supermarket counter. The best way to explain it is with a sidebar. When I was ... about 10, I think, they had a graphology booth at the Puyallup Fair. You merely signed your name and they put it into a "computer" and then gave you a printed card. It was real neat. And, for a minute, I thought it was dead-accurate. And then my brother and I looked at each other, handed over the cards, and guess what? His profile nailed me to a T in the same way mine did. And that's largely how I feel about pop-culture astrology. I do not think much of the most accessible occultisms. There may be something, though, to the deeper discipline of astrology. A local bookshop blows my mind with monographs and so forth on astrology that go way over my head. But, like tarot readers, I've found the best astrologers are generally the ones who know me, and beyond that the ones who get to see me face-to-face. (I can read a mean tarot deck if you're one of my friends--absolutely on-target. But if you're a stranger ... I get just as vague as your newspaper horoscope.) Where astrology may go deeper might somehow link into astronomy. In the past (long past ... Exosci era past) I've mentioned various occult notions like vibrations and so forth that serve as quasi-practical explanations for magick. Such influential vibrations, radiations, or auras, as we well know, have not been documented, and remain as speculative as turning water into wine. But with gravity able to affect quantum encryption systems in the US Department of Defense and humans able to detect it, who knows? Perhaps some day we will have such finely-attuned equipment as to detect specific radiative patterns and document them in relation to human will and specific "magickal" disciplines. At that point, however, they would step out of the supernatural and into the natural, out of the metaphysical and into the physical, and out of the paranormal and into the normal. I'm not holding my breath. I even routinely blow Zener tests, so don't expect me to pioneer the field of vibratory emanations in magick. But what are the quantum (or even smaller) effects of gravitational and energetic interplay in the Universe? Imagine a supernova, however far away you like. How does that event affect us? After all, it does constitute a fluctuation in gravity, and all things in the Universe are connected by gravity. We can see the light; do those changes in radiative frequency and amplitude have any effect whatsoever? Considering chaos theory, we need not be able to measure that basic effect in order to speculate that yes, it will play out and manifest itself in a larger symptom. Of course, speculation won't work when it comes down to figuring out how we go from A to B to C in that process. I'm not claiming its legitimacy, but neither can anyone tell me that the oldest events in the Universe do not affect me on Earth today. In the meantime, and perhaps it is a testament to the nature of astrology, I submit my all-time favorite horoscope, Brezsny's Free-Will Astrology, which comes out every Thursday ... well, in our town it does. On edit: Brezsny, I suspect, employs a more reliable method of pop-astrology. Namely, a bottle of liquor. For instance, my current Gemini horoscope-- • If you're the kind of person who is delighted when the weather changes suddenly, you will love the coming days. If you are skilled at catching your balance in the midst of a stumble, you will thrive. If you know how to inject rich, mysterious truths into soulless dead ends, the whole world will rise up and celebrate you. And if you try to act like anyone other than your original self, you will misplace your TV remote and have to buy a new one. thanx much, Tiassa Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
From what i Concluded many years back from Astro predictions using planets was a study based on Electromagnetics. You can assume this to be very accurate if you look at the olden times,where the intereference due to other Mobile and other communication signals were less.Okay(i have assumed the whole Astro stuff to be true,although i am not sure.)so here it goes: every planet and star has an electro-magnetic field associated with it.so each thing balances the total field of this world.when a child is born he affects this world by adding some electro-magnetic field to it.now,The planets and other stars position determine how Electromagnetic fields of their own will affect childs brain development.(i have demonstrated that application of electro fields on brain affects greatly the brain's response,memory systems,in intelligence and machines forums.)okay so in short the fields affect brain and thus affect a person's life andhis futurisitic plans. The core astro might have been a science.but today it is nothing more than statistics. thanks for time guys. bye!
strGrl, Many many thanks for taking the time to build a horoscope for me. I hadn't expected anyone to go to the extent of publication as well. And yes the analysis is significantly accurate. I have to admit that my interest in astrology goes back some 30 years and I have seen a number of variations on my horoscope created by others as well as myself, although the overall story is pretty much the same. I’ve also created horoscopes for others, especially those I know well. Some conclusions – 1. The generalizations in newspapers and magazines are really just trash. 2. Anything other than a specific horoscope based on time and place of birth is a waste of time. 3. Trying to refine a horoscope by considering the outer planets for example is statistically worse than guesswork – i.e. nonsense. 4. There does appear to be considerable correlation between birth time and general personality. 5. Scientific studies on astrological predictions that try to match compatible personalities for dating purposes show no worthwhile value in astrology. 6. Attempting to use astrology for anything other than generalizations is a waste of time. 7. The practical value of astrology is currently highly dubious. Some other observations – 1. Astrology has nothing to do with stars. The discipline is concerned purely with the planets of which for these purposes the sun is considered a planet. 2. Gravity cannot be responsible for the effects since large objects (e.g. the doctor) close to the infant at birth would have a more significant influence than say the planet mars. 3. All scientific studies (that I have seen) that attempt to show the effectiveness of astrological predictions are inconclusive. I have no idea how astrology appears to work for some people, but I’ll keep an open mind since my chart does tend to be largely accurate and is significantly different from other signs that clearly do not represent me. Cris
I'd be interested to see if the horoscope that purports to represent me, that strGrl has published here, can be matched to anyone else here? Any takers? Cris
Cris Well, I dont match your profile, but Ill post mine... General Personality Characteristics Harmony and balance are your keynotes. You instinctively understand the need to accommodate other peoples' interests and desires, and you are always fair and willing to meet the other person half way. Tactful, diplomatic, and with considerable social awareness, you do all you can to avoid conflict and discord. You express a spirit of cooperation and compromise and often achieve through charm and discretion what would have been impossible to achieve by a direct, forceful approach. Getting along with others and pleasing them may be TOO important to you, for you can be too dependent on others' approval and opinions to make your own decisions. You will rarely act without getting the counsel and feedback of other people. You prefer sharing and doing things together rather than on your own. Being alone feels very unnatural to you, and you have a strong need for a partner and intimate one-to-one relationships. You invest a great deal of your energy in personal love and you are very idealistic and romantic about marriage. You seek a partner who is your equal intellectually, and who is capable of a mental relationship as well as a physical and emotional one. You make a thoughtful, considerate friend or lover, and you enjoy the traditional symbols of love - courtship, flowers, etc. Relationships are like an art to you, one that requires time, attention, and creative effort. You appreciate a partner who is subtle and polished, never coarse or dull or blunt. Fairness and equality, both in your personal life and in the world, are extremely important to you. If you fight about anything, it is often about something you feel is unfair and unbalanced. Balance is very important to you and you believe in moderation in all things, avoiding fanaticism and extremism of any sort. You also have a strong need for beautiful, harmonious surroundings and a natural sense of artistic style and grace, which is reflected in the way you dress, furnish and arrange your home and workspace, etc. Everything must be aesthetically pleasing and appropriate. Either working with people as a counselor, advisor, consultant, or negotiator - or in an artistic field such as design or photography, would be fulfilling to you. Mental Interests and Abilities You are an exacting perfectionist with a clear, logical, analytical mind and an aptitude for work that requires meticulous attention to detail and efficient organization. Well-grounded and pragmatic, you tend to develop specialized skills and technical expertise in some practical field. Knowledge, ideas, and theories don't really interest you unless they are useful in a tangible way. You are inclined to analyze, measure, and dissect everything and to miss nuances, subtle shades of feeling and meaning. Your strengths are in your precise thinking, careful craftsmanship, and mastery of technical skills. You tend to be very good at what you do and critical of others' work if it does not meet your high standards. Well, Im extemely analytic. I love harmony and balance, and I always try to make everyone get along. I hate arguing and fighting. So, it looks pretty accurate. I did read one that said, since I love beauty - I can tend to be materialistic and love the finer things in life. Thats not at all like me, but this one is pretty right on. Hey why dont everyone post theirs!! Neato! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I don't believe in horoscope. It's too general... I do believe in Astrology. It's very accurate... Love, Nelson
*stRgrL* ... What a load of bovine fecal matter! Anyone who knows me knows what a sensitive, caring, unassuming .... Oh hell! Read it for yourself ... How You Approach Life and How You Appear To Others Ferociously proud and somewhat vain, you like to be impressive and to be seen as Somebody Special. You are not timid, meek, or self-effacing, and are rarely content being in the background or in the subordinate position. You are a natural leader, and do not take orders from others very well. You must have something of your own, something creative - be it a business, a project, a home or whatever - that you can develop and manage according to your own will and vision. Whatever you do, you do it in a unique, dramatic, individual way. You like to put your own personal stamp on it. You also have a very strong sense of dignity, self-respect, and personal honor and are deeply offended if someone treats you in a humiliating or dishonorable way. You will rarely confront the offender - you are too proud to do so - but you will lose your affection and respect for them. You dislike pettiness and hate to be snubbed or ignored. You admire others who are strong individuals like yourself. When you befriend someone, you are tremendously loyal, sincere, and willing to go to extraordinary lengths to make that person happy. You are very giving and generous, but your gifts are never anonymous - you expect recognition and appreciation for them. You also expect the intense loyalty that you offer to your dear ones to be reciprocated. However, you often have trouble working with people who are as strong as yourself, for you do not really cooperate or share the leading role very easily. If you are not in the leading role, you aspire to be and will compete with the person who is. You have great heart and courage, and people often look to you for strength, encouragement, and affirmation. You always have your best face forward and rarely allow others to see you hurting, disheartened, or vulnerable. You also have a very strong need for love, admiration, appreciation, and praise, although you don't like others to realize just how important it is to you. Your outlook on life tends to be very personal and rather self-centered. Your own self-expression, self-actualization and self-realization interests you more than anything else. You feel that if you do your best where you are, the rest of the world will take care of itself. The Inner You: Your Real Motivation You are a person who thrives on challenge, and you often feel that you must battle your way through life, depending upon no one and nothing but your own strength, intelligence, and courage. You believe in being totally honest, true to oneself and one's own vision and convictions, even if that means standing alone. Honesty, integrity, personal honor, and authenticity are your gods, and you have no sympathy for weakness of character in others. You crave the freedom to do things in your own way, and you work very well independently. Cooperating with others or carrying out another's will is not your style. You like to be the chief -or to go it alone. You love action and if others are settling down into a nice, comfortable little rut, then you are always ready to stir things up, do something new, make changes, bring in some fresh blood. Routine and sameness are like death to you. You are not afraid of trying something that's never been done before, and even though you may be seen as a fool sometimes, you also discover, invent, and initiate things that others will later emulate. Taking risks and following your own star are the breath of life for you, and you wilt (or get very frustrated and angry) if you cannot do this. You are spontaneous, impulsive, direct, enthusiastic, and assertive. You believe in the power of positive thinking and positive action, and you think of yourself as a strong person -even invincible. You hate being ill or in any way in a position of dependency. Accepting your own human limitations and emotional needs is often difficult for you. You are basically aggressive in your attitudes and have less facility in the receptive arts of relating to others, picking up subtle messages and nuances, listening, nurturing, and harmonizing. Often you are so fired up about your own projects or goals that you inadvertently run over or ignore other people's feelings and interests. Being receptive and appreciative of others' contributions, ideas, and feelings would go a long way in improving your relationships. Your impatience to get on with things causes you to be rather insensitive, and to therefore alienate others unnecessarily. You also frequently try to accomplish your ends by using anger or some version of a temper tantrum. You would gain much by learning to slow down, relax, and just let things be sometimes, but your energetic, restless nature rarely allows you to do this. As I said, it's a load. And you'd better believe it ... or I'll cry. Take care Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
