Hi people...

Banshee and I are starting a thread for astral projection learning.
Here is where we will explain Astral Projection, what it is and how to do it.
Lets say this is more reading lessons.
Probably mostly posted by Banshee, because she's definetly more experienced in this then I am.

For tips en techniques about learning other psychic powers, drop by 'Learning Psychic Powers *free-4-all*'...

But stick to this one if you are interested in Astral Projection...

Greetz...

The one thing that I have most problems with, is to let go of breathing when you are about to project. Do you have any tips on how to overcome this?

:)

Continue to exhale until you reach the surface!

Ooops ... I'm thinking of free ascent. ;)

Take care.

Maybe by distracting yourself whit the astral projection...
Don't try to worry or think about the breathing in the end...
It should be that your body will naturaly take over the main tasks if needed.

I can only give small tips, not the actual things yet, but it'll come in time :)

Bebelina, meditate and let your breathing come from out your belly. Try to breathe equally. Breathe in and out in 10 seconds and keep on doing so. Your body will take over this breath rytme by itself eventually.:)

Then it is no problem any more. If your breathing is in one and the same rythme, you do not have to pay attention to it any more and focus your Inner Self on the Astral Projection.

Let the Energy to do so come from the top of your head.

More information in next reply about the Chakra's. If I can find the words in good understandable english...;)

Patience with me here please....thank you.

Thanks for the tips, I have to exercise a bit until Saturday, because I haven´t been astrally projecting regularly lately, so I´m a bit rusty. :)
Before I had no problems with the breathing, but now I´m very conscious about it. I can feel the exact moment when the astral body is about to leave the physical body, and that suffocating feeling of your throat closing. It´s like you have to give up breathing for a while until you´re out. And that´s hard, because it feels like dying.
So for me it has also become a task of mastering the fear of dying.

What´s free ascent, ogre?
:D

Every human has 7 Chakra's located in his/her body which are connected with their hormon system.

To make it easier to find and feel these Chakra's they all have a color and an Element or "subject' to go by.

There we go, let's hope it will be a good explanation in english...:)

1. located at the bottom of your body (Tail Chakra)...just above the hair of your sexual equipment: Element is Earth, color is Red.

2. located ca. 10 centimeters below your belly button ( Belly Chakra)...Element is Water, color is Orange.

3. located ca. 10 centimeters above your belly button (Mid rif Chakra)...Element is Fire, color is Yellow.

4. located in the middle of your chest (Heart Chakra)...Element is Air, color is green.

5. located in the middle of your throat (Throat Chakra)...Subject is Communication, color is Light Blue.

6. located between your eyes (Head Chakra)...Subject is Light, color is Dark Blue.

7. located at the very top of your head (Crown Chakra)...more about this one in a later reply.

The Chakra's you can feel if you hold your hand a little above them. They are all in the middle of your body.

Lay down, close your eyes, keep one hand above the location and think of nothing but the color and Element/Subject. For instance 'Red Earth'...

It is not hard to do if you concentrate a little and be serious in finding them.

You know it immediately when you feel a Chakra. Like a 'warmth' coming up from inside your body.

This is a very good 'technic' to meditate also. Go by every Chakra and stay a little while at each of them.
Try to breathe from out your belly and breathe in and out every 10 seconds. Breathe til deep in your belly. Feel the breathing in your belly...

Try it out and be patient. Most of the times you can find them in a little while.

Don't fall asleep...;)

That was my problem with meditating-I fell asleep.

I'll see if I can try the chakra thing out later on. But what about astral projection? Explain to me how to do it, how it works, and how I could get to the Eiffel Tower once I'm in the 'spirit world.' I think to prove the existence of astral projection each of us should think of a two digit number, and then if we actually do get there together we could unite the numbers into one and post them here, to see if we were correct.

I know its hard to believe I'm skeptical. I want Mr. G to embrace at least this whole idea for awhile as I have, just experiment with it. Nothing's going to hurt anyone, just try it out.

Shrike, to get to the Eiffel Tower , once out of your body, you must simply imagine being there, or follow the road that in your mind leads you there. In the astral body you can travel very fast and often instantly from one location to another.
I think the number experiment will not work, it demands too much extra concentration, when one has to focus on the projection. But we can try. I think it will go better if we make an habit out of it, then it could even classify as a "scientific experiment". :D
From now on I will be at the Eiffel Tower, in my astral body, every first Saturday of the month at 12.00 am, anybody who wants to join the experiment can meet me there. :)
I will let you know if my schedule changes.

Great...See you in the next city...Don't be late...(wink smilie)

Rotten computer!

I've decided to remain mostly moot on this topic as anything I might say would no doubt be characterized as Ass_troll Rejection.

"What´s free ascent, ogre?"

When you're at depth (diving, etc.) and you have to do an emergency surface
using only the air in your lungs, you have to keep exhaling so as not to tear your
lung tissue apart (otherwise known as an air-embolism).

I love you too, witch. ;)

Take care.

I should never have mentioned the flirting, now should I...:rolleyes: I think Mr.G feels a bit left out here...;)

Diving is a very similar experience to astral projection. The same feeling in the ears. And when you move, it´s almost like in water. So maybe that was not such a bad idea, to exhale until you´re out, or up, I will try that.

:)

Left out? Of what? What did I miss?

You just focus your attention on Banshee (you old psychic, you)

Take care. :D

i need help with this astral projeting stuff i think i might be trying to hard or sumthin is my head supposed to start shaking by itself and my eyes start opening and closing like twicthing or sumthin this happends with every method i try

my gf can do this like nothing also all she dus is think of a empty room with nothing but a chair in it and sits down focuses on the wall and it happends it usally take her like 1 to 3 minutes and she can do it with noise and she just started like 3 days ago and it happend by accdient

Hi Master_Chief, welcome at Sciforums.

A/P does work most of the time if you are not forcing yourself. If you try to hard you won't get a Projection. What you describe are reactions of your body on your will power. (mindpower)

If your girlfriend can project herself that easily, there must be something more she is capable of.

It is a good way to clear your mind and to let yourself into another dimension, by thinking of an empty room with 1 chair in it. Often it helps to think of something like that or something you feel comfortable with. (waves of the Sea, place you like to be)

You don't have to do it in absolute silence. You can try to project at any time. With Music, other noise, it is just what you feel most comfotable with. That way you have to use.

And don't force yourself, for then nothing will happen.

Take your time with it, take it easy, relax and think only of that what you feel comfortable with. And watch your breathing, calmly...

Let me know what happens with your A/P and if it works out for you.:)

Have a nice day...

I´m simply crap at astral projection :D
I just go to the lodge and mess around with starclusters. Compress reality and stuff it inside. I tried to go to the Eiffel tower and instead just took the form of it :)
I cannot project and simultaneously mantain time/space continum. It just becomes the pinkish goo of nukleoid momentum... it´s nice though :)

Ouch, I let the Lucid Dream Technique by me.

In lucid dreams you are able to control your dreams and even start Astral Projection or OBE.
IF I dream or remember the dream I have these weird combinations.

I just discovered 10 minutes ago that I let it slip by, And the dream was about an hour or 2 ago.

I was walking outside and It was a cloudy but light and worm summer day. <- That's a tip
I walked outside whitout my NY cap <- That would be new, so that's a tip
I was in a place like The Amsterdams rivers <- Dutch, yeah, but I live about 25 to 30 kilometers away from is, That's a tip
I was passing an open air techniligie store, whit glass cases where Rain could leak through <- That's definetly a tip

What do I do, Ignore it...
So that's dissapointing that at the moment I'm blinded by it...

I'll be able sooner or later to get it

Yesterday we had a snow day! And we'll probably have one on friday too! All right!


But that's besides the point. I think, but don't fully believe, that I almost left my body two nights ago. My technique that I use is just imagining my body parts outside of my body. Needless to say I tried this when I went to sleep and it didn't work, so I went to sleep and woke up in the middle of the night to find myself screaming and being shoved down a small pipe. I realized that I was about to have an OBE and chickened out-I had the feeling that my consciousness was at my torso. It was terrifying! Tell me it was a bad dream! I was awake while this was happening-arr it was so scary. I couldn't breath-I was drowning or something and was very cramped.

Shrike, you are telling two things here.

First you want to develope psychic abilities and you are trying it out.

Second, if it works a little, you freak out.

What do you want now? Don't understand you. If you were awake then it was no nightmare...

Afraid it will work for you? Then stop trying. Or give in and let it work for you. You can't have both at the same time.

Good luck with it.;)

Was what I felt normal?

I'd like to know if I really was on the verge of having an OBE rather than a dream. I'm pretty sure I was awake but my memory is clouded.

If you are trying to have an OBE before you fell asleep (or A/P), then there is a good chance you take it with you in a dream and from out the dream you can get an OBE. That is called a Lucid Dream.;)

If you woke up because you were frightened, your Inner Self did not want to give in and let you wake up. Then you can feel pretty shaken up yes...

Ask yourself if you really want to have an OBE or a A/P and listen good to yourself. If you are not sure it will work, it works against you.

Talk to you later...:)

Okay if this can be done succes fully without any cheating etc,then astral projection is a truth...

choose a remote area first, then take a book from that place,..

now when person is in process of doing astral projection ask him that while during the process to go there and learn about the book details viz name of author etc.the book off course should be placed at an inaccessible area for the person demonstrating astral projection...after the process ask him about the details of the book...if he answers corrctly then this process exists...else not.

this type of experiment was once conducted on a man named charles in Colarado University,under controlled conditions...the person was given a place just couple of blocks away a house specifically,to give detailed description of its kitchen's crockery,he was actually 67.2% accurate...still not convincing...

bye!

Hello all- I am new to the group and very excited about polishing my astral projection abilities. All that I have read so far from you is both entertaining and educational. I thank you. Here is my main problem- I would like to project a few hours or few days into the future and am having trouble , any advice?

The future does not exist. You will visit a future that is extrapolated by your mind based on the experiences you have. So what you see may not be the future when it happens. On the otherhand, you SC mind may prevent you from viewing - if it is damaging you in the present which could alter the future.

Hi zion:

One of the conclusions we made doing numerous experiments in telepathy is that, if the information is present in someones mind and that person is nearby, the test subject can pick it up. So, unless that contamination is avoided, the result of remote viewing, astral projection etc. may not be accurate.

Hi Km,

For the experiment i have stated will be a laboratory controlled stuff,all the necessary precautions including the one that you stated will be taken care off so as to avoid any kind of inaccuracy of results...

bye!

Hi everyone - First post - I just want to say Its great to see so many veterans here! I worked with my guide a number of years ago about this A/P thing and scared myself silly back then - I asked and I recieved so to speak. A few paralysis states later and I didn't feel so keen! Now I guess I'm back and ready for some action can anyone tell me what actually happens when you wake conscious in the paralysis state and actually let yourself slide into it? I've been there many times but always hold myself 'up' - or with a tremendous will pull the use of my body back to use and then feel like a real coward! and wished I had more faith or balls!
Thanx

A very late reply, way to late. Apologies for that.

Welcome at Sciforums, hope you are still around here. Can imagine the two of you are disappointed in the reactions here at Parapsychology. Haven't been around here much lately. Again, my apologies.

Miamaximus, are you serieus? Projecting to the future? Well, I should say, go for it, why not? I don't know if it's possible, guess not. Guess you know it too. What is that about the future that everybody always wants to know what is going to happen in the future. You live in the here and now, not in the future. No advice for that, I am sorry.;)

Jaames, your body wants to hold control over you, so your brain will tell you not to slide. Only thing you can do is trying to let yourself go, steady and easy. I don't get the idea you are afraid of the sleep paralysis. The paralysis is just a fragment of bringing your body in a state of rest for the upcoming experience. OBE, Lucid Dream or so. So try it, just let yourself go, don't think.:)

A/P is something different, no sleep paralysis there. A/P you do on purpose, very awake...

Fear is a inhibitor for sure. On every vision quest I first go through a state I call the judgement. This is where you see yourself as you truly are. The ego, its fears and preconceptions. It feels as a bouncer at the door.
Checks you and then pushes you away or lets you in.
The bouncer is you, and you are scrutinizing yourself.
Here one must come to terms with one self. See what baggage one brings along for the ride.

All emotions take tangible form. Accepting what one meets and feels is key.
When moving within a spiritual realm nothing can be avoided and trying to do so only brings fear and panic. Shame, anger or sorrow are hard things to deal with on all planes. But encountering these emotions as real entities is the real killer. Try to flee and you´ll be messed up for sure.
A vision quest should not be interupted. The messages can be cryptic as they are, and bailing out before the whole story is given means you´ll be carrying along some pretty sinister images and half-told truths that could haunt you a long time.

The fear-factor involved in all mental and spiritual excercises is there as a warning. This is real stuff. You are meta-programming. And you should do it with caution :)

My visitations to the future only created paradoxes. There was this horrible, horrible situation waiting(wont go into details). Trying to avoid it, I made it.
The lesson, see but don´t touch.

MuliBoy is right. I don't go into stuff about projecting into the future. First try to project yourself in these dimensions. Problems will be on your way. It is up to you yourself to deal with them.

MuliBoy said it so right. His English is much better than mine. Thank you MuliBoy...:)

No, thank you Banshee for starting the parapsychology forum :)
Religion?! Bahh. I like it much better with these topics :)

I think everyone who can do remote viewing or astral projection has there own technic of doing so. I do know that it is a process of conditioning as are most things.


bjl

Well, I don't think so...

Most people use one of the most common techniques...
When I tried it, I used the very, very, very most common technique.
Just lay as still as possible, release the tension off your muscles.

Consentrate on your body and try to get out whitout using a muscle by staying awake whit your mind, and let your body fall asleep.

I almost got out...
I think the reason is that I thought my body was asleep but not completely...
I felth the 'vibrations' they said that most commonly would come, but a complete seperation didn't work...

I'll try it again sometime soon :)

I had a good link about Astral projection, there are about 20 techniques there, whit all of the most used...

Greetz.

BANSHEE

Thanx for the reply - although I'm a bit confused now - could you clarify for me the difference between A.P and O.B.E - I assumed they were the same thing ??

Scrap that!!!!! I ve just read another of your posts that answer that question nicely! guess i should look around before asking stupid questions. DOH!

There is a lot going on in a thread sometimes. It is easily overlooked sometimes. No stupid questions what so ever.;)

Good to see you are on the boards again...

What is astral projection anyway?

By now you have to know... I gues...

Astral Projection is commonly compared whit OBE...
OBE = Out of Body Experience...

Astral Projection is similar to it, but more versatile...
You can be at some other plane, not just our standard physical plane...

Do you understand it now?

There is a difference between A/P and OBE's. :)

A/P is projecting your Astral body to another place. Somebody else can actually see you then, like a kind of hologram. It's not entirely correct, there are more ways of projecting yourself. It's always in a more or less visible way.

An OBE is something you do only with your mind, your Inner Self is going 'out' then. Not visible for others. OBE's are often connected with Lucid Dreams. Not always, you can go out of your body whenever you like if you have the ability to do so... ;)

there are as many methods of getting out of your body as there are, well, bodies, i think. and while i'm in total agreement that, like anything else, you need to work at it to get results, that doesn't mean it won't happen when and how you least expect it.
for example: i tried (admittedly, off and on) for years to astral project - all sorts of different methods and processes, to no avail. then one day shortly after meditating i dozed listening to ben folds five, and...just sort of danced out of my body (kind of twirly, as i recall). it might be that you need to envision a giant astral pogo stick or something. keep at it.

Easy way to produce out of body experience is LSD,MARIJUANAS...isnt it?




bye!

Oh Zion, now you disappoint me! You really believe that?

LSD can make you more aware of other humans real feelings and a lot of other things. I can't say it is easier to project with LSD, nor with Marijuanana.

LSD can work against you rather easy. I suggest nobody tries it out...

And Defenestrated, you are right. There are many ways to project yourself and unexpected OBE's do occur yes. Once it happened to you, you know what to expect, then you can do it by will power easier...

lsd and marijuana might make it easier to imagine you're astral projecting...

defenestrated,

lsd and marijuana might make it easier to imagine you're astral projecting...

What do you want to imagine it if you can really experience it?

I've learned an easy technique some time ago...
If I find the link, I'll post here... :)

Love,
Nelson

Here it is... :

http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/Alfred.Ballabene/english/obepart3/johnb3.htm

Love,
Nelson

- Hey guys, after practicing and mostly find information...
(just say gathering information only for almost 2 years)
I have an announcement to make...

- Probably not all of you psychics are open about your powers, but a lot of you appeared to open up thanx to Banshee...
This post wil be posted in more then 1 thread...

- A few days ago, I seriously started to try telekinesis again, and very seriously...
Even whit a method (seeming boring and dificult) so simple and fun to try...
--- The psi-wheel technique ---
and I did it, whit more and sooner results then I even expected after long last...
I don't want to mis-guide people here, but I did it in even the first session...
Not on a big scale, but at least noticable...
Te day after went 3 times as better...

So I now pronounce myself, as Psychic controlled...

I'll practice more, to get very good, and try to encourage people to open up for it, and to learn it if they can be trusted whit it...

Cheers to you all and your sucesses on the same goals as I have...

Reply to "Truth Seeker"

I'll check that link out for my self after spreading the news till Mr,G's crazy, if he still lives on the forums...

Hi guys,
Im new in here and ive been always interested in astral projection. I've tried it myself, but it seems that im forcing myself to much and im not going anywhere at all. Hope you can help me guys to just even start OBE. I've already prepared myself with lots of articles about this, and always been meditating. I really feel I could do this, but i need your help guys to start with!

Am i in the right place?Is this the cesspool ?

Slotty you're lucky - I ended up in Tescos.

ive read about astral projection but i am wondering how do u get back to ur own body once u want to leave

You simply think, 'return' and concentrate on the thought of returning. Getting back is extremely easy and will happen wether you like it or not.

The hard part is staying out there.

k im gonna try it tonight hopefully i do it right

Sounds like those Indians wanted you to remember something!

That's a common theme in books I've read: The person in the family who has the best ability to communicate with the dead is the one who has the dream. The typical communication is along the lines of "I'm fine, don't worry about me."

I had lots of dreams about my dad after he died, even though we weren't close in life. In one of them, he was a lot healthier than I knew him. He said, "It's so beautiful here and full of love!" In the dream I felt love emanating from him.

I tried to project last night. I finally got to the point where i felt something float over my head/shoulders (i was laying on my stomach).. it was difficult to maintain for long, as it gradually began to weaken over time. Are there any suggestions to keep maintaining this, to make it easier?

I've had a real hard time staying out lately. The times when I've had the most success were after plenty of sleep when it's quiet (like go to bed at 9pm and get up at 4am when it's nice and quiet). Also when I've been reading a lot of spiritual stuff. You can also try demanding what you want. One book recommends to say "clarity now" right after you get out. I tried it and immediately my vision cleared (it's often blurry initially). It's a thought realm so any thought you have tends to quickly manifest. That's why a lot of people can't stay out--because they think about their body and before they know it, they're back in it. The best way for me to get out is from lying on my back. I've read that is true for many others.

My mother-in-law was in the hospital after a heart attack. My wife and daughter were with her in the critical care room while I was in the waiting room in the middle of the night. I felt a sudden air rushed around me, I felt a presence for about 5 seconds and looked up at my cell phone time display to be 2:25 AM. That is the time she passed away....weird feeling....difficult to describe....

Just wanted to make you all aware of this free course.
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If you can't understand reality when you're awake, what makes you think you'll gain an understanding when you're asleep?

If you think granpa science has reality neatly packaged for you hung up in a stocking over the fireplace I'm affraid you are mistaken.

Simply because granpa science doesn't realy give a shit about you, to him you are just a statistical probability. Because in a sense granpa science doesn't realy give a shit about anyone because he is a bit of a nihilist you see. Those who know him are ever perplexed by him. Quite a character he is. But those who don't know him all that well think that he is wonderfull and caring. They eagerly listen to him spinning his salty yarns about strings and quantum resonance.

As for mad aunt new age, I realy wouldn't pay that much attention to her. They say she's got syphilis. ;)


If you can't understand reality when you're dreaming, how do you think you can understand reality when you are 'awake'?

Delirium is an illusion.

Go back to sleep.

BTW I just like being an asshole, take no heed.

Too much sleep, perhaps?

yeah

To understand Astral Projection, one has to understand first the structure of the 7 Layers and their 7 chakras, in particular the Solar Plexus Chakra.

For those who can read Arabic, they have all the answers in :
http://www.esoteric-lebanon.org

Hi guys I'm silver cloud. I'm trying to work out how to chat with people about sleep paralysis. I'm dyslexic and have never used the net for anything other than sending emails amd it's taken me ages to even figure out how to put this post on.

Last night i got a parallyisis that was SOOOOO scarey i just had to write my 'Symptoms' and put them in a google search. Reason being, since i was ten years old (I'm now 36) I've always thought i was potentially sciztoprhenic or could go mad one night as i was about to go to sleep. I would hear very loud whooshing sound - voiuces and particualarly music. Have you got any idea how tripped out i've been all these, never daring to tell it to anyone.

Thing is, when i kind of breathe hard and call to God (even though i'm not religious) i always manage to get back to the surface but i feel like i'm kind of getting pulled down in to demonic worlds or comrthing that could hurt my soul if i let go to it - and that weird noise, my God - it has totally freaked me out all my life. Today i have been shaking all day as last night it went on for over seven hours of 'insanity'. I have been putting this off for ages - i mean trying to find out what it is 'cause i just did not want to hear i was potentially losing my mind.

So i entered "Weird loud noise - asleep - awake" etc in google and I was amazed and DELIGHTED to read that so many people get the same thing. I an Sooooo happy and so releived and even now possibly excited about it. I can't find my way back to site but or what ever it was i was reading from google but one guy said you leave your body if you chose to and that that was the noise was getting you ready for. He said to read a free book on the net by Robert Peterson.

Look, i'd better stop writing - i guess your not really meant to write this much. I'm dyslexic which really irritates me 'cause it makes understanding written infomation so difficult - that's why i've never even contemplated going to chat rooms before. Look i really should stop talking. But I am so happy SO HAPPY that i'm not the only one who gets this. I have lucid dreams all the time but that is somthing very different from the whooshing thing and i'd like to learn from you guys about how i turn this into a productive thing and not a scarey experience. hope i can navigate my way back here again tomorrow evening. SORRY for big letter - won't do it again. Love from silver cloud.

Good news, silver cloud! The noise scared me too until I figured out what it is about. Now I love the whooshing sound. It's like an invitation to a free trip to Disneyland. I get the other noises and voices too. Also put into Google either "astral projection" or "out-of-body experience", which are the same thing near as I can tell.

I hate the "whoosh". I always see myself doing something, and i usually trip or fall. And the whoosh is me against the air/wind... And i usually struggle to regain balance and let out a humongous twitch in my bed. I am wondering if anyone else gets a similar feeling.

I volunteer at IAC New York, and we train people how to astral project. Our intro classes meet evey first and third Wednesday of the month. I left our contact info in case anyone is interested.


Free Events
7pm
IAC 51 E. 42nd ST., SUITE 419 (Grand Central) New York, NY
Phone: (212)-867-0807
Toll free: (800)-778-3778

I volunteer at IAC New York, and we train people how to astral project. Our intro classes meet evey first and third Wednesday of the month.

Once trained, do students bother to leave their house to attend class?

I volunteer at IAC New York, and we train people how to astral project.


And the results are? Any new discoveries, any new information that you can share with the mortal plane?