Assassination Tactic Against Suicide Bombings?

Discussion in 'World Events' started by AmishRakeFight, Jan 28, 2006.

  1. AmishRakeFight Remember, remember. Registered Senior Member

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    Humor me for a minute, I'm merely throwing this idea to the crowd for opinions. As we all know, a large problem for many countries (among other things) is suicide bombings by radical Islamics. Now most suicide bombers do their duty with two things in mind:

    1) They will be rewarded by Allah in the afterlife
    2) Their families will be taken care of by the organization they are affiliated with (terrorist, state, religious, ect)

    Now to tackle the problem of suicide bombings, I analyzed the situation and came to a conclusion: If suicide bombers commit the acts they do with the thought that their families will be safe and taken care of, why not eliminate that possiblity?

    Here comes the controversial part:

    What if states put together assassination teams and, after a suicide bomber's body has been identified, their family is targeted for assassination? This will most definitely make potential suicide bombers think twice about their decision to eliminate the "infidels". Although I'm aware there is the possibilty that less drastic action can be taken to prevent suicide bombings, it most certainly is a problem around the world.

    Suggestions and comments are welcome. I don't exactly agree with my conclusion, to be honest. But I do think that it would weed out the ranks of suicide bombers considerably.

    AmishRakeFight

    EDIT: After furthur research, I discovered that this is not an original idea. Colonel John B. Alexander, U.S. Army (Ret.) suggested this in 2003.
     
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  3. Happeh Registered Senior Member

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    Humor me for a minute, I'm merely throwing this idea to the crowd for opinions. As we all know, a large problem for many countries (among other things) is takeover by Israeli World Domination thru economic means, infiltration of the government, terrorist acts and open warfare. Now most politicians do their duty with two things in mind:

    1) They will be rewarded by the Israeli Masters with higher political position, money and status
    2) Their families will be taken care of by the organization they are affiliated with USA government, Israel Government, Israeli World Domination organization

    Now to tackle the problem of Israeli World Domination, I analyzed the situation and came to a conclusion: If politicians commit the acts they do with the thought that their families will be safe and taken care of, why not eliminate that possiblity?

    Here comes the controversial part:

    What if states put together assassination teams and, after a politician has been identified as selling their country to Israeli World Domination, their family is targeted for assassination? This will most definitely make potential traitors think twice about their decision to work for Israel instead of the USA/Britain/Germany/Canada/Australia. Although I'm aware there is the possibilty that less drastic action can be taken to prevent Israeli World Domination, it most certainly is a problem around the world.

    Suggestions and comments are welcome. I don't exactly agree with my conclusion, to be honest. But I do think that it would weed out the ranks of politicians and neo cons considerably.
     
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  5. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    Certainly some action should be taken against their families, simple deportation of all relatives of suicide bombers might be sufficient. If that doesn't work, perhaps bombing their homes. It has a nice symetry to it. You bomb our families, we bomb yours.
     
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  7. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    madan + amish:

    LOL. You are both ignorant myopic dumbfucks. Typical of neo-con retards. "Hey, I know how to combat terrorism! We'll kill more of the innocent civilians that are under our occupation! I'm sure that after we do so, angry citizens won't even think about retaliating". Yeah, that's worked great in Israel. Collective punishment hasn't exactly pacified Hamas, has it now?

    God damn. How do you fucking retards manage to manipulate a keyboard? Doesn't sciforums have bouncers to get rid of dumbshits?

    Here's a better idea... why not attack the cause instead of the effect? A country could help curb terrorism by...

    1. Stop engaging in imperialism.
    2. Stop engaging in the occupation of foreign sovereign nations.
    3. Stop bombing someone because they 'hurt your feelings' when they laughed at Sept. 11.
    4. Stop supporting corrupt regimes in many countries.
    5. Stop breaking treaties.

    Before trying to change the behaviour of others, why don't you alter your own fucking shocking foreign policy.
     
  8. Cottontop3000 Death Beckoned Registered Senior Member

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    Exactly, mountainhare.
     
  9. AmishRakeFight Remember, remember. Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not the first person to suggest this, and I already said at the fucking beginning that I didn't agree with my conclusion. Stop scanning my posts for mistakes and read the damn post. I had already spent some time thinking about it, so I posted it on SciForums.

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    Is that not the point of an internet forum designed to facilitate scientific, logical thought? And no, America cannot curb terrorists that are bent on destroying America because their RELIGION TELLS THEM TO. We are the infidels described throughout the Koran, you ass spelunker. God damn, it seems that thinking something through and coming to a conclusion that I don't agree with is fucking criminal. "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle. I thought, I concluded, I didn't agree. Jesus christ, I swear Happeh's love of ad hominim is contagious.

    AmishRakeFight
     
  10. Cottontop3000 Death Beckoned Registered Senior Member

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    The Koran is not the only good book that tells its adherents to do questionable things. You're scared of terrorists? You think they are a huge problem? You dignify their actions with your thoughts. Terrorism is nothing. Will amount to nothing. Will be remembered as nothing. Unless the neo-cons have their way. It would be best to treat it no differently than you treat serial killers or drive-by shootings here in the USA. In the USA, we deal with serial killers and drive-by shooters with police and the FBI. Terrorism should be dealt with by the CIA and the NSA, not armies of imperialism or assassination squads. If American justice isn't good enough for terrorists, it isn't good enough for Americans, and vice versa.
     
  11. AmishRakeFight Remember, remember. Registered Senior Member

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    When was the last time a drive-by shooting took down the World Trade Centers?

    Although you make a good point.

    AmishRakeFight
     
  12. Cottontop3000 Death Beckoned Registered Senior Member

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    Just a matter of degree. The more people you have, the more will die. I really don't think too many Americans are actually, honestly scared of terrorism, they are just a little pissed off that we got taken. Get over your indignation America, wake up and see that the neo-cons are using your indignation to their advantage and furthered corruption, and go on with your lives. Not that you aren't anyway. Furthermore, take more of what you hear in the media with a little more healthy skepticism. Especially what government officials spew at press conferences and weekly radio addresses.

    P.S. Remember Timothy McVey and the Oklahoma City bombing? Amazingly, he wasn't Muslim. Or Arab. Or from over the sea. Homegrown and homespun.
     
  13. AmishRakeFight Remember, remember. Registered Senior Member

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    Again, good point. So if there had been a couple secretaries in the WTC, and only pilots in the planes, then it would have been regarded as the same as a serial killer slitting a few hookers throats here and there?

    And your 100% correct, most Americans aren't scared of terrorism at all.

    AmishRakeFight
     
  14. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    Seriously the reason why there is suicide bombings is that is the only way Palestinians can hit back , the fact is Gaza and The West Bank are shut tighter than a steel drum . The Palestinians have no Airforce , Navy nor an Army just a lightly armed Police force . For a young human being to strap explosives around their bodies and pack it tight with shrapnel and to walk into a crowded shopping mall and detonate himself is an extremely desparate act . That shows you the hate that has been bred due to the squalid life the Palestinians lead as in comparison to the first world affluency of Israelis . Honestly why does this act garner such an emotional response as compared to when an Israeli F-15 jet drops a 500kg bomb into a crowded Palestinian neighbourhood we act different .And why punish their families ? Are they not innocent ! As for this story of each suicide bomber getting 15 virgins on entering heaven what do the female suicide bombers get , 15 dicks !

    Honestly how would you react Amish if you were born into the Gaza strip , which has 70% unemployment , racked with crime , locked down with curfews daily searches . How would you behave Amish if you were a Palestinian .
     
  15. AmishRakeFight Remember, remember. Registered Senior Member

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    If I grew up as a Muslim, in a Muslim family, in a Muslim culture, in a predominantly Muslim area of the world, with the knowlege that I cannot legitimately fight back, I would most likely become a terrorist and either: a) Do the things they are doing now or b) Organize a larger attack that will make more of a difference. That's my personality, I suppose. But if I knew that my innocent family would be punished for my actions that would turn it into another situation. Am I selfish enough that my blowing myself up in a market will result in me receiving 15 virgins but my family recieves nothing for their death? But again, I don't think that that is the correct way for a civilized culture to approach the problem. When (if) I think of something, you can count on me to InForm SciForums.

    AmishRakeFight
     
  16. Cottontop3000 Death Beckoned Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not saying it would have been regarded the same as a drive-by,even with fewer deaths, I'm saying it should now be regarded the same. If you think about it, there is very little difference. Drive-by shooters, serial killers, and terrorists are all out for the same thing. Payback. No matter what the motivation: religion, pride, squalid existences, poverty, hunger, desperation, racism, sexism, etc. For either wrongs committed or perceived to have been committed against their selves, or their views, payback. Sadly, most of the time, there is a kernel of truth and justification behind their actions, though it is definitely easier and more socially acceptable to just label them crazy or evil.

    Nonetheless, you don't go out and take a vigilante approach in dealing with them, as we have done in Afghanistan and Iraq. You stay within the law (international laws in these cases) and you don't overreact. You stay calm, reasonable and think before you act. Something bush either doesn't do, can't do, or chooses not to do. Personally, I think it is the latter in his case.
     
  17. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    Amish:
    You claimed that you 'don't EXACTLY agree', which hints that you think that the idea has a lot of merit, but is not perfect.

    The idea has no merit.

    A war on terrorism is absurd... you might as well have a war on submarines. Terrorism is merely one method of warfare the oppressed and occupied use to fight against imperialists.

    Stop the occupation and imperialism, and you will stop a LOT of the terrorism.

    BTW, you seem to characterize terrorists as Muslim fanatics, who kill civilians because Allah told them to.

    Have you ever heard of the PLO?
    Have you ever heard of the Tamil Tigers?
     
  18. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    If I grew up in Gaza in 5th world squalor being daily humiliated by the Israeli army of oppression and occuapation I would like to see someone stop me from strapping a bomb to my person and doing the deed . As I said it is a desparate act derived from a desparate situation , the perpertrators are not thinking in a rational way and I dont think the threat of killing their families will solve it , just intensify the struggle .
     
  19. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    Brian:
    False.
    Terrorism is a highly effective military tactic. Terrorists are thinking rationally, which is why there are noticable 'campaigns' of suicide bombings.
     
  20. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    A short essay by the poster Sauron sums up the logistics of terrorism quite nicely in his post here:
    http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showpost.php?p=2025742&postcount=150

     
  21. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    Not so sure , I read the story of that 23 YO Palestinian girl who became a suicide bomber . Apparently she was an ambulance medic and one day while attending casualties from the aftermath of an Israeli helicopter missile strike . She was heard to say " this has gone to far " 2 days later she detonated herself in a shopping mall . As for the campaigns they are described as waves , they intensify when Israel provokes the Palestinians . I have yet to see evidence where HAMAS plans suicide bombing campaigns .
     
  22. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    Brian Foley:
    Which is a rational response, if you want Israel to pull out of Occupied Territory.

    Israel will never be inclined to deal fairly with the Palestinians, if the Palestinians don't apply a bit of pressure, and have some leverage.
     
  23. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    You'd better hope not.

    Your use of obscenities and ad homs does little to bolster your arguments.
     

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