Job interviews....is there anything more perplexing and absurd about human sociolization than job interviews?

You sit there, your interviewer sits there...you both know the truth, you both know that you are completely pretending to be something you're not, you both know how resumes are B.S to high heaven to get attention, you both know the responses you'll give are complete and utter, baseless lies wrapped in ficiticious smiles....


you both sit there knowing full well what people do to get to and at job interviews and yet......both of you go on with the lie like it completely doesn't exist....like you don't even have any recollection of the farce swimming around you.

We all give the most cliche, retarded answers and the interviewer pretends like this is the first time he/she has ever heard this nonsense.

I don't get it, I really don't. The whole enigma of job interviews puzzle me. Why can't people just admit to each other the horrendous lies going on and give job interviews like normal humans....you know, the ones who don't smile till their face hurts.

I sit there watching job interviews or giving them and an amazed at how incredibly foolish this behavior is yet it is so acceptable like nothing about it is wrong or moronic. We shake hands, say goodbyes and leave...how fast that smiles falls off the face and we start recounting word for word the answers we gave like trained monkeys....incredible.

I don't get it....I really don't.

I've never lied at a job interview.
There are also no lies on my resume.

Seems stupid to me to lie about it.

Job interviews....is there anything more perplexing and absurd about human sociolization than job interviews?

You sit there, your interviewer sits there...you both know the truth, you both know that you are completely pretending to be something you're not, you both know how resumes are B.S to high heaven to get attention, you both know the responses you'll give are complete and utter, baseless lies wrapped in ficiticious smiles....


you both sit there knowing full well what people do to get to and at job interviews and yet......both of you go on with the lie like it completely doesn't exist....like you don't even have any recollection of the farce swimming around you.

We all give the most cliche, retarded answers and the interviewer pretends like this is the first time he/she has ever heard this nonsense.

I don't get it, I really don't. The whole enigma of job interviews puzzle me. Why can't people just admit to each other the horrendous lies going on and give job interviews like normal humans....you know, the ones who don't smile till their face hurts.

I sit there watching job interviews or giving them and an amazed at how incredibly foolish this behavior is yet it is so acceptable like nothing about it is wrong or moronic. We shake hands, say goodbyes and leave...how fast that smiles falls off the face and we start recounting word for word the answers we gave like trained monkeys....incredible.

I don't get it....I really don't.

Trained monkeys, thats just it. In a way, they know you're lying, but thats good. Chances are, you're going to have to do it in your job anyhow. In a way, its the most important thing for them to test. The better your forced smile, the more you get ahead. The better you will be able to fool the customer. You'll make the workplace cheerier. Never underestimate the value of a good liar.

I've never lied at a job interview.
There are also no lies on my resume.

Seems stupid to me to lie about it.

I find that hard to believe. My resume is so fluffed that it hurts for even me to read it.

I've never lied at a job interview.
There are also no lies on my resume.

Seems stupid to me to lie about it.
You really can't lie in a job interview if you think about. If they ask you do this thing that you bullshited on but can't, you are screwed.

You can only lose the job that you wouldn't have gotten in the first place if you hadn't lied. So you can't really lose.

My last job interview was by a committee. The usual one one is bad enough, but having a roomfull to face (I think it was five) is really intimidating. But I got the job.

I've never been one for inflating myself in my resume, or in the job applications I have filled out. I think I have suffered for it in the past. It is such a standard practice that is expected. Employers then figure in a sort of BS factor to try and arrive at a more accurate approximation of your qualifications. If you do not inflate your qualifications, then you really suffer once the BS factor is applied to your resume. C'est la vie (or so it goes for fellow Vonnegut fans).

I've never lied on my resume or at an interview. Most people find it hard to believe as it seems most people do it. Perhaps that's why I have difficulty finding work. Especially if you add to the fact that I refuse to suck up to anyone. Bosses love that load of tripe.

I haven't lied on a resume either. But being an actor, they're more concerned about the audition.

Can the rest of you imagine that?

I can imagine "thespian" being the gayest word in the english language.
It's just built for lisping.

I had to do some serious rewording for my college applications. Not exactly padding, but not entirely truthful, either. We'll see.

I find that hard to believe. My resume is so fluffed that it hurts for even me to read it.
It's true.
Pretty much for the same reasons Psycho said.
That, and I try to be as honest as I can as often as I can.

What's the use of getting a job that I can't do?
I want to be challeneged in a job, and I will say that in an interview, but I don't want to be going in blind.

I will say, "No, I haven't had the chance to get my hands on that yet, but I have been hoping for the opportunity."
I will also make sure that I point out at least once during the interview that my record shows that I learn fast.
Getting something like:
"Nearly every job offer I have accepted has been beyond my experience level, and I have worked hard to prove that none of them have beyond my capability."
out there early in the interview will set you up nicely.

(something similar to that sentance is actually in my standard cover letter.)

I tend to be honest when it comes to anything testable, like skills, experience and stuff like that, but anything they ask that isn't related to how well I can do the job, like interests/hobbies, I just exaggerate to make ,myself more interesting.
My last job interview was by a committee. The usual one one is bad enough, but having a roomfull to face (I think it was five) is really intimidating. But I got the job.
My worst interview was a mock interview I did when I lived in Cambridge, because the university like to train their interviewers. I was interviewed by three people, while an audience of about thirty was watching. :eek: Even though you know it's not for real, it's still very nerve-wracking.

I tend to be honest when it comes to anything testable, like skills, experience and stuff like that, but anything they ask that isn't related to how well I can do the job, like interests/hobbies, I just exaggerate to make ,myself more interesting.

What if your new boss ALSO likes to skydive, hanglide and swim with sharks on the great coral reef and wants you to come with him the next time he goes snake wrangling in the Amazon?

this whole system you are havin to give your taxes to, work for, and so on..is A lie!

the fkers at the top of it are blatantly lieing. they dont even CARe anymore you know this....gives me the image of the naked emperor givin the middle finger type of thing

it is a LIE. it is a shoddy pile of corrupt lies. of people pretedning, hidsing behind images. worshipping images. haveing their boobs plasticified fror the plastic image plastic men love

get out yer old Zappa album and play the tack 'plastic people' again....

it is a lie

I think its all to do with patterns and conditioning.

I remember the complete derision I gave to the job interview process (mentally) when I first encountered it. The more and more we do it the more and more we forget the farce. I guess after 20 years or so we get conditioned and numb to the bullshit and stop rebelling. (well pressure of family and kids stop us rebelling more like)!

I tend to not lie on my resumé either.

I realize that if one were to lie to get a job, and then be fired for not knowing how to do certain things, it appears to be no big loss, but it really is. When updating your resumé, one would wonder why you couldn't hold a job longer than a few months, and if you lied and just didn't list your shortlived jobs, then employers would wonder why you weren't working at all during those periods.

I've only had three different jobs during my short time in the workforce, but every one of them was begat legitimately.

All and all we're all just bricks in the wall.

you both sit there knowing full well what people do to get to and at job interviews and yet......both of you go on with the lie like it completely doesn't exist....like you don't even have any recollection of the farce swimming around you. We all give the most cliche, retarded answers and the interviewer pretends like this is the first time he/she has ever heard this nonsense. I don't get it....I really don't.I've never given or taken an interview like that in my life. What kind of work do you do, anyway? Remind me never to hire anyone in your line of work!

i have no lies on my resume either trust me if I lied on mine they would know since it gets investigated fully in law enforcement.

it never pays to lie when on a job interview because if you get caught so long job, I would rather get the job on my crappy truthful awnser then a bogus one off the top of my head that i know is false

Job interviews....is there anything more perplexing and absurd about human sociolization than job interviews?

You sit there, your interviewer sits there...you both know the truth, you both know that you are completely pretending to be something you're not, you both know how resumes are B.S to high heaven to get attention, you both know the responses you'll give are complete and utter, baseless lies wrapped in ficiticious smiles....


you both sit there knowing full well what people do to get to and at job interviews and yet......both of you go on with the lie like it completely doesn't exist....like you don't even have any recollection of the farce swimming around you.

We all give the most cliche, retarded answers and the interviewer pretends like this is the first time he/she has ever heard this nonsense.

I don't get it, I really don't. The whole enigma of job interviews puzzle me. Why can't people just admit to each other the horrendous lies going on and give job interviews like normal humans....you know, the ones who don't smile till their face hurts.

I sit there watching job interviews or giving them and an amazed at how incredibly foolish this behavior is yet it is so acceptable like nothing about it is wrong or moronic. We shake hands, say goodbyes and leave...how fast that smiles falls off the face and we start recounting word for word the answers we gave like trained monkeys....incredible.

I don't get it....I really don't.


Im going to turn you folks on to... like a miracle thing in regarding job hunting/interviews. Its called informational interviewing. Ever heard of it?> Its where you contact companies or businesses in the type of job field you may be interested in with the sole intent being to gather info from the hiring manager and from one or more of the employees. Yeah. Its so cool. Employers are really hip to the concept. You make it clear that the interview is definately not for considering whether you'll get a job with them but its specifically for your investigations of the field and the company in order to determine if it's what you really want to do. It takes all the pressure off the employer, and all the pressure off of you and at the same time you get to become become familiar with one another and youre in control of the game asking the questions etc. Every informational interview Ive arranged and gone to has been great. Employers are really impressed that youd approach the whole thing this way and it makes it sweet and easy when the time comes to arrange for a hiring interview. Youre a familiar face, they already know a decent amount about you.. it's relaxed. There is a specific process with guidlines to follow tho. Im not going to explain. Buy the book 'What Color Is Your Parachute' by Richard N Bolles. Its an excellent job hunting book and details the whole process. You'll be glad you did. I fucking HATED looking for jobs before informational interviews. Now it's cake and I dont mind it in the least. I actually enjoy it when it comes up and it does come up because I still dont know what I want to be when I grow up,. hheh peace

Sounds retarded.

Depending on what type of job you want, the utterly fabricated resume is the best way to go. I have so many resumes for so many various jobs. I'm amazed at people that cannot find a job, but it actually works out all for the better. People pay me once every now and then to write resumes for them. Upon writing a fabricated resume, I cater it to whichever job they are applying for.

People that write honest resumes severely limit their job market. They believe that what is on their resume is the only work they care capable of. The fact is, business do not look at what your capable of. They look at what you tell them you are capable of. Your resume is your ad that tells business what you are capable of.

Take this for example: You apply to be a web designer. You have never taken a class or have had any experience in web design. But you are a better web designer than most that have had education and work experience in web design.

Of course, you could put that you do web design as a hobby, and you are very good at it from learning everything about it on your own. In such case, your resume would get thrown out. If you put in some fake information in like you have work experience and education in web design, you are more likely to be considered for the job.


One thing that cautious people and risk takers have in common is that they never consider the consequences.

Probability takers always consider consequence before considering probability.
When taking any action that involves deception, there are various possible consequences: death, injury, incarceration, or simple rejection.
The probability taker fist considers the conseuence before even considers the probability that his deception will succeed. The first question is always: what is the worst that can happen?

For example: I will attempt to use an expired coupon at the store. I determine that the worst that can happen is rejection. Not death, not incarceration. After that, I determine what the probability is of this attempt failing. Pretend that from my observations, I decide on a 90% probablility that it will fail. Last, I decide if the attempt is worth taking. Will a 10% probability of success be worth the risk of rejection. Most likely, yes. I might loose some time also, but who cares. There is a 1 in 10 chance I will get to use this coupon.


Say I attempt to walk to my store in my neighborhood late at night. An area full of high violent crime. Consequences: death, injury, being robbed, are the main things. Once I determined the consequences, I determine the risk. There is probably a 5% chance that anything bad will happen to me, and a 95% chance that I will make it to the store and back safe and sound. But I do not dare take that chance. The consequences I am facing are too severe. I am not cautious nor am I a risk taker. I am a probability taker.

I find that hard to believe. My resume is so fluffed that it hurts for even me to read it.

Mine contains no lies either. I havn't the skill to lie, which makes it difficult for me to get hired. I figure though, that someone who would hire me based on a pack of lies isn't worth my time. I don't want to work for a company that wants liars working for them.

Who cares. Do the dirt, and take their money.

Who cares. Do the dirt, and take their money.


Yeah lying at job interviews is risky. If its a decent company a lot of the time the hiring person has at least basic psycholinguistic?/visual linguistic knowledge and they know pretty much anyhow,if youre lying. Sometimes it shows a sort of initiative, sometimes its expected, a lot of the time theyd rather you be honest and if you fall short of having the skills inquire about what you can do to get the skills to re-apply. Its just not good to be seen as shifty in general . at least thats what i think. Here too, the informational interview works well. You get to quiz the person about what an employee needs to get hired and after the interview if youre really interested, you do what it takes to get the skills and set up another interview after. Most employers upon finding out what lengths you went to to become hire-able will most like grab you up...

Buy the book 'What Color Is Your Parachute' by Richard N Bolles.I second that! It's an excellent book, no matter what salary range you're looking at.

I came across that book about a decade ago, and looked through it. I never read it though because it seemed to be catered to people that do not know what they want and are searching to find themselves. Meaning they want to know what it is they want and who they are. Being that I have always felt that I've always known what I want, I never took the time to read more into the book. I never checked weather there was more to it than providing answers to questions I already know answers to. It's whatever color I want it to be.

I've never lied on my resume or in a job interview. I am one of the highrest paid students in my town. Lying on a resume is for those that are underqualified.

Sarge, to what job did you apply? Just to remind you, if you lie about your art skills they'll know it after the first sketch they see from you. Better start the good habit of honesty from the very beginning.

Just get to know how to do more things better. Is it really that hard to become a higher qualified employee?

"I've never lied on my resume or in a job interview. I am one of the highrest paid students in my town. Lying on a resume is for those that are underqualified."
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Wrong.
You can be well over qualified, but not have the credentials to prove it.
Therefore, you fabricate them.
The fact that you are the highest paid doesn't mean that you cannot get paid higher or a better job if you feel you are qualified for a better job.
Otherwise, just remain content with whatever those super geniuses decide you are qualified for.

its simple, people want to hire good liars, because good liars are better at lying to aid the company

Alain, that may be true of sales positions. But there are other jobs where a "flexible" attitude towards the truth is actually a grave liability.

I have never lied on my resume either. Though, I am told I make a very good first impression, with confidence and honesty about the things that I don't know. As such I have thus far been offered every job I interviewed for.

These days honesty is a novelty, I would hire someone who was less knowledgeable about the position over someone who has obviously lied to get it. But that is just me. In this respect, interviews are essential and make complete sense, in the judging of ones character.

"I've never lied on my resume or in a job interview. I am one of the highrest paid students in my town. Lying on a resume is for those that are underqualified."
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Wrong.
You can be well over qualified, but not have the credentials to prove it.
Therefore, you fabricate them.
The fact that you are the highest paid doesn't mean that you cannot get paid higher or a better job if you feel you are qualified for a better job.
Otherwise, just remain content with whatever those super geniuses decide you are qualified for.

I do see part of your point. For my job, computer courses would normally be necessary. I am not qualified for anything relating to CISCO or networking at all! I did put on my resume my capabilities in the field that my job is related to. I never had to lie about my qualifications. I received the job and I later found out that one of the applicants had CISCO 1-4 college courses.

Why isn't integrity and self respect enough reason alone to be honest?