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Is there any Know PLaces,Maps,Sites with maps to where you Can See the Base, I Have herd of some that are Still around that the Gov has takin over?

[This message has been edited by chad (edited January 20, 2001).]

you can see some sattelite images at www.fas.org (http://www.fas.org)

There's a picture of Area 51 at http://www.terraserver.com, if you just search for Area 51 you should be able to find. The website is ran by Microsoft so i am unware of the quality of the picture, its probably not all that good, but its a picture.

If you watch The Discovery channel at all they have a special on Area 51 where they show pictures of the base.

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-Lynx

I've heard alot of interesting stories about many people seeing strange objects
over this non-existant base.In early March, I'm going to travel on 375, the extraterrestrial highway, so I can spend a day or so in Rachel. I can't give out too much info yet. If I get any exciting video or photo's I'll be sure to post them. If you don't hear from me then you know what happened.

So basically it flies like this people...........A51 was closed down in favor of another military base, which has less notoriety..................supposedly somewhere else in the USA...................??????????????????????

NOW THAT'S A KICK IN THE COD'S PEOPLE!!!!!!

WHERE IS THE "NEW" AREA 51???????? THE MIL/GOV DOES A PRETTY PATHETIC JOB OF HIDING IT'S SECRETS.........

................besides, Bill Clinton, & his brother Roger, & all those coke Traffikers probably use the old A51 as a drop point for the Pardoned few.......anyhow....maybe one could just pay a $15.00 subscription fee to a Russian "authenticated cold war secrets' site" & FIND OUT what the normal US citizen (censored) internet sites are devoid of. ...............

All hell Col........I'm just talking out of my ass..ANYHOW!

It's not like a few crazed, hell bent, amateur investigators might actually be able to uncover Airforce Secrets.

Besides, even if they do, it's good practice for the AIRFORCE to realize the relative, present day capabilities, of the average American Citizen! Might give the AIRFORCE a point of understanding regarding the intelligence....or stupidity......& tenacity, of the Average American.................... (the above passages were for nsa computers(snoopers).............hey I called them first people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

S N O O P E R S (slang: resistance movement of 2106)..............: A first generation type of artificial semi conductor intelligence, used primarily by the US military to discover plots, conspiracies, and threats toward the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT in the early to mid part of the 21st century. _-See also NSA Surveillance systems. WEBSTERS DICTIONARY copyright 2741. all rights reserved.

High detail .jpg!

http://www.psychicspy.com

this site has all you want.

Aussie, you are a fuckin nut!

And I mean that!

Your're starting to read almost as badly as Boris!

Good God ! ! ! !

Um, i have a few sites that have a lot of information and im pretty sure that some of them have pix. www.ufomind.com/area51/, www.area51researchcenter.com/area51.html,
www.fas.org/irp/index.html
i hope that these help. :)

http://psychicspy.com/

http://psychicspy.com/

http://psychicspy.com/

http://psychicspy.com/

<b>I found this site while surfing a little while ago.</b>

<i> Haven't had the nerve to actually go to some of the more ????????...... ones ! ! ! !</i>

<font size="4">If one is into the AREA 51 stuff, then this has to be the best site that I've seen so far! ! ! !</font size>

OOPS! I SEE THAT MALCLYPSE HAS ALREADY LISTED THE ADDRESS. NEVER MIND.....

Detailed files on alien government cover ups for the past 50 years.

if interested,

email

jandjinformation@yahoo.com.

for more info.

hey bobby lee
keep your head down!
i dont want you to dissapear!
how can we develop a means of communication that cant be interfeard with by misinformation people.
i think the psychicspy site is a misinformation site that is run by military intelegence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
soo howard your feelings are prob true!
just my opinion anywho
******watch your connection info to see how much data is coming in or out when you go to some of those sites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
groove on all

In a past issue of Popular Science or Mechanics they ran an article on the moving of the skunkworks and base to another site. Several reasons were stated from too much in the public eye to better launch and security setup. In the past they have also ran articles on new theories for stealth planes, ect. Of course the government’s not going to let them publish any state secrets or military one’s either. But it is fun to speculate and chances are good that if they’ve put something into print then something else is there that is better. When it comes to state secrets then they are a closed-mouthed bunch. Need to know and all that rot.
I’m sure that someone on this forum will be able to give a little more detailed info.

hey wet1 i like the fish :)
i think its all too possible thatr the usa govt has reptilian or grey techno so they prob have the ability to cloak things with using perceptive transfer of image and reality distortion.
so they could have a hole city hovering over your house and only a true "good" psychic could know!
:D
just a little thought forom a little thought guy :)
dont belive everything you see and it might give you the vision!
but dont talk to people over the net if you see something because you can garenty that nsa or the real MIB are monitoring it!
be vauge if you can and dont shout about it too much!
groove on all
:)
peace ...love ...and missery to all gred merchants!

Talking of speculation and what is read in a common nationally issued mag is hardly something that the government or folks from MIB would come see you over. It would create more hassels than it would be worth to let be. After all, it’s just some spook rattling through his mouth. Besides it’s not like we’re passing photos and specs around. I just don’t think there is anything to fear from that kind of post. If there was, you couldn’t get a webmaster to put such an entry into his site. They’d be dealing with everything from IRS calling to power outages and unexplained viruses showing up.
Anyway, it would be easier to not say anything and watch such a site for any signs of leaks on what is a reality. If you really know something and want to blab about it where else would you go? It was common at certain military training installations where sensitive subjects were taught, to let the trainees go into town on pass. But in town, at the more popular bars, would be those listening for any sign of leaks from the trainees. Those that kept their mouth shut never heard anything about it. Those that didn’t found they were no longer assigned to deal with the sensitive equipment, may have faced jail or worse.
So, I’m not gonna hold my breath and jump at the next shadow. I’m sure that those who do such can separate who are in the know from those who are guessing. No matter how shrewed that guessing might be.
Thanx for the acknowledgement of the avatar.

cool...as a nitros swimming-pool :D
not trying to sound too heavy just passing a thought more than anything.
and i guess the size and make-up of bugs ... these days are far past any current populus understanding or comprehension.
groove on all

whos "dave" and why have i got a message in my email saying he replied but theres no reply?
M.I.B-boys, i hope your sticky fingers arnt interfearing with my idol gossip! :D
makes a good 'mis-tory' though.
:)

I am Dave and I deleted my message hence no message in thread.

hunky dorry... :D
no prob-lemmoe

Infected by the horrid e-mail bug, no less! And what symptoms shall we look to appear? We certainly hope that it is not contagious. We do not believe that one good bug deserves another. By we I mean me and my symbiotic partner

Damn Wet!!! It's good to know that someone else had read such magazines........Pop SCI, Discover, SCi American....



I feel as though I am again in the presence of informed peoples.

PLEASE CONTINUE, SIR, AS I AM INTERESTED IN A WIDE VARIETY OF SUBJECTS REGARDING SCIENCE.

I will attempt to stretch and elaborate.
When Groom Lake was originally chosen for a test bed it was in a relatively unpopulated area. Further, the names like Area 51, were developed to designate areas for nuclear tests. Security was so tight for the tests that no name with any kind of information was given. Just a nondescript designations. When requesting this site it was figured that the radiation threat would keep most away, especially at that time when not much was known of radiation and it’s effects. (other than it was bad) But it was not figured that it would become a tourist attraction for those trying to figure what secrets the government was hiding and what it was developing. So they left a large area out that had line of sight from the mountaintops! When it was finally figured out that people were going there and camping out looking for whatever might fly out a night, security devices were put into place. Everything from roving armed patrols to ground sensors and signs warning that intruders could be shot. The patrols had orders to ensure that all intruders were hassled to as to discourage all but the most determined. This included destroying any film, whether it had been exposed or not. Also vehicles were targeted for flat tires (usually more than one).
The salt flat or dry lakebed made an excellent area for a runway. All that was needed was to pave it.
So this is the basic history as I remember it . A lot of secret and experimental craft were tested and developed for this facility. Including the U2 spy plane, SR71 Blackbird Spy plane, and the B1 bomber. However, problems had developed because planes could not file flight plans when out of the restricted air space surrounding the facility. After all they were secret! California started see unexplained tremors showing up on seismograph from sonic booms. Air line pilots reported seeing strange craft of no known configuration. Some people just happened to be in the fight spots. This made the folks in charge of the skunk works security very uneasy.
It is now speculated that cryogenics are required to cool leading wing surfaces to keep control of heat generated from the passage through the atmosphere. This also requires large areas of security in air space to allow ever-faster craft the long approaches needed. It is thought that the base has been moved into a mountainous area, allowing for easier reach into rarefied atmosphere, better control over the secrecy of viewing the base and greater isolation. Yes they did close the loophole of view from afar.
… I find that time has allowed no more time for thoughts and speculation so I’ll leave this post for a later time.
(timed out)

I totally agree with wet1. When faced with the Area 51 mystery, the only fact you have to work with is the fact of the Government's total secrecy and a few sightings of aircraft. these two basic facts can become roughly two conclusions.

(1) that aliens are being held at the base, the need for secrecy being the precept that any knowledge of aliens will cause mass hysteria amongst the public.

OR


(2) that new technonolgies are being tested there that, because of standard military policies regarding developing technologies, must be kept secret.


I'm not saying there is sufficient evidence going to either side. the fact that this base and its contents are kept classified helps only in speculating and leaves most of the doors open. The question, then, pertains to the sightings.

It's up to you whether or not you want to believe that the lights in the sky surrounding area 51 are aliens or top secret planes. But, ask yourself: What makes more sense, having US military planes flying in the vicinity of a US base, or having alien planes flying in the vicinity of one. In a case with (seemingly) so little facts, simple logic seems to be the best tool.

I'm no expert, though. I dont know much about area 51 or all pseudoscience in general. However, I do like to think on my own values and morals and be free from the traps of conformity. NEVER trust eyewitness accounts over hard facts!


:)

hey all :)
well now that i have read several doven reports and observations crossmatched with medical reports and missing person reports i can honestly say that i personaly belief that the USA military have anti gravity devices that are used to monitor people and places!
they look like hovering balls of light but they are just recon devices that have anti personal devices attached to stun or kill people close by!

hows that for a flight of fancey :D

groove on all :)

I don't know why you're pretending to be a future man, but I can tell you that Area 51 is probably an AFB with no actual name, where secret aircraft are tested. They keep it secret because of aliens? NO, because they don't want other counties to know what type of multi-billion dollar aircraft we have.
You are a very paranoid person that has been watching too much X-files and Discovery Channel programs.

P.S. AIRFORCE ISN'T SPELLED AIRFORCE, ITS TWO WORDS, AIR FORCE!

hey all
thnx for the grammer lesson!
I will try and take more care while i'm typing in paranoid terror.
:D
thecurly1-
so which government agency do you work for?
the secret face on the end of the nose?
or maybe the "i'll never believe it cos i aint seen it with my own elbows" club?
or maybe you are a scientist that believes in god for the answers to the big questions?

maybee............"schmoo"

:D

are you constructing or destructing?

"how can i help"..." or should i stab? how much fame can i grab?"


groove on all :)
peace... love... and vegetables for fuel! :)