In an age of smart missiles and suicide bombers it seems the word "terrorist" can be applied to anybody who chooses not to share your point of view. The UK home secretary David Blunkett sees those terrorists everywhere (something of a suprise considering he's blind).
Here's the obligatory link.
"http://www.guardian.co.uk/armstrade/story/0,10674,1039353,00.html
Quote.
"However, protests were muted and caused no serious disruption to the event, which did brisk business yesterday, according to firms involved."

One question remains for those of both the left and right.
Could I, one day, be a "terrorist"
Dee Cee

Definately, maybe some people already think you are for even considering such a question, you might need pre-emptive treatment

you might need pre-emptive treatment
I'm beginning to think that about my government.
:D :D
Dee Cee

I would be entierly unsuprised if given the current definition and broad application if i was put under the category of terrorist but like i give a (insert explecetive here)

Its the case anywhere when they go to far and push on too many people more and more people find themselves being labled criminal or terrorist or being harrased and thats the barrier.
Once you've been labled why keep trying to avoid it, when they go to far a lot of people will decide enough is enough whats left to loose and start fighting back and then they will have all the terrorists they wanted so badly only i dont think they will be able to handle what they get.

*damn i need a spell checker - my english grammer gets so bad at the end of a working day*

You say "In an age of smart missiles and suicide bombers it seems the word "terrorist" can be applied to anybody who chooses not to share your point of view." Why not look up the definition of Terrorist to see what it really means before you make a new definition of it?

Here is the real definition of the word:

violence (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands <insurrection and revolutionary terror>
synonym see FEAR


WHERE DOES IT STATE ANYTHING ABOUT NOT SHARING YOUR POINT OF VIEW??????
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"WHERE DOES IT STATE ANYTHING ABOUT NOT SHARING YOUR POINT OF VIEW??????"

Where the police are empowered to use anti-terrorist legislation as justification to arrest protestors and subject them to searches etc etc. This means that you are being prevented from protesting, becasue you are suddenly under the aegis of an anti terrorism law, ie they think you are or might be a terrorist.

Will you please show where , in America, people have not been allowed to protest against something because the police thought they were terrorists. There are protests everyday in America. In Ft. Lauderdale just yesterday there were over 1000 protestors outside the building where the President was speaking at.

I don't think so, unless maybe my opinions strike terror in the hearts of America hating left wingers and French.;)

Ohh! A hornets nest..
First Cosmic
You say "In an age of smart missiles and suicide bombers it seems the word "terrorist" can be applied to anybody who chooses not to share your point of view." Why not look up the definition of Terrorist to see what it really means before you make a new definition of it?
Hey! I don't disagree with your 'dictionary' (who writes those anyway?). Seems the sec of state does however.
For Pyscho
I would be entirely unsuprised if given the current definition and broad application if i was put under the category of terrorist but like i give a (insert explecetive here)
Lets see if you give a shit when your in custody and denied right to council. (You gotta be a terrorist to get those kinda perks). This goes for Guthrie too. Gettin' picked up on the ATA (anti terrorism act) gives the state several days to do whatever they want with your sorry ass. They don't even have to tell your folks your nicked!
Finally for the Fudd
This really isn't a left/right issue. Imagine marching for your personal cause. (Anti gun control sounds good for you Fudd) You really wanna get banged up by the state as a 'terrorist'? What would your mates down the local 'Rod n Gun' have to say about that?
The beauty of the ATA is that the plod need nothing more than the idea that your a pain in the arse and wham! bam! your nicked without benefit of council. If this is how they use the ATA then God help us when blind Blunkett introduces compulsory ID cards.
With all that in mind do any brave souls still wanna defend the use of the ATA against non violent demonstrations?

I'll be here if you want me.
Dee Cee

I'm waiting for that link to a site that confirms your story, where is it?

hey DeeCee of course i would actually give a shit when they come for me but when that happens it would mean things have gone so far down mr Orwells predicton (Ironicaly under capitalism rather than socialism) that it wont be just me it will be hundreds if not more that are being rounded up and at that point i wont be the only one trying to head underground and give them all the terrorism they want.
They want to advance their goals whoppedee do, they want to disapear the people trying to stop them good for them they will get a fight, they want to start rounding up innocent people and making examples they will have more shit on their hands than they can ever clean off.

Cosmictraveler, whilst your up on your high horse, some of us in the UK here have to sleep.

I specifically am talking about the guardian article here, which is about a specific UK problem we have, evidenced in the article, not anything that is going on in the USA.

The UK Police arrested a load of peaceful protesters at the Arms Fair in London using the Terrorism act as an excuse and that caused a lot of outrage, thats what i think he was on about ^_^.

Thats just what I was on about. Well spotted Psycho
Trouble with new laws is some fucker always want to use them.;)

Off to brave Crib Goch (http://www.mountains-snowandrock.org.uk/Wales/crib_goch.php) This weekend
http://graphics.worldweb.com/PhotoImages/DaveNewbould/SunriseoverCribGoch.jpg
Fair the well thread.
Back Monday (God willing):)
Dee Cee

always happy to help bro ^_^.

Crib Goch? Im sooo jealous. Guess Id better find myself a walking group, the Peak district is getting rather boring, and I dont fancy trying some of the welsh peaks on my own.

Yea, I'm with Psycho Cannon on this one.

Originally posted by DeeCee
One question remains for those of both the left and right.
Could I, one day, be a "terrorist"
Dee Cee [/B]
Hi
Hurray, Hurray, Hurray for "terrorism" in which no innocent person and no child get killed. Thanks

Fucking loser terrorists fuck get lives all of you don't you have anything better to do? go get a job, make some money, by a television commercial and change the world, stop whinging and get lives all of you. fuck man dude duy what's up?
terror is for losers, but change is good, peaceful change.

Terrorists are rightly reviled for doing exactly what "lawful" citizens too often encourage and support armies in doing for them.

We'll always have random psychopaths, but we can deny all organized mass killers their support, and end large-scale senseless slaughter and suffering on every side.

To advance this process, the motivations and grievances of "terrorists" and governments must be given fair exposure and consideration on all sides. Suppression and distortion of information and understanding is causing terrorism and war.

Given sufficient objective information, majorities understand the folly of demanding the unreasonable. This is the only way that the war on terror on war will end.

Dear me Jolly you really are a fuckwit.
The purpose of my original post was to perhaps suggest that the UK government are using the 'terrorist threat' to silence legitimate non-violent protests. This cannot be good for 'democracy' regardless of your political pursuasion. As for the substance of your post I can only claim confusion about what it is your trying to say.
I mean
Fucking loser terrorists fuck
:confused:
go get a job, make some money, by a television commercial and change the world,
Err.. WTF?
fuck man dude duy what's up?
Whats up indeed.
terror is for losers, but change is good, peaceful change
Hooray (some) sense at last! Keep that thought in mind Jolly when the police arrest you and the politicians brand you a terrorist for sitting in the road and stopping traffic.

BTW You folks may be interested to know that 'axis' state Syria attended the London arms fair at the invitation of the UK government.
Still, it seems the real 'terrorists' were outside chaining themselves to the rails of the Docklands light railway.

Go figure
Dee Cee

yeh me so dumb dumb silly wacky
sorry you smart man
where you come from?

Manchester UK

Have I just opened the door to an insult?;)
Dee Cee

Um your country is fine i just think your a bit of a loser. Haven't you anything better to do?

Haven't you anything better to do?
Well after spending yesterday climbing a 3,000 foot spine of sharp rocks I find that today I'm too fucked to do much more than sit at my computer typing messages to dipsticks like you.

Whats your excuse?
Dee Cee

whereabouts can i go to climb those rocks? sounds cool.