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A Canadian 10-25-04, 06:00 PM I just cannot seem to connect with anyone...
You can meet so many poeple on the internet, but localy, I just cannot connect with poeple.
I find girls that are hot, but I just can't connect with them, thus there is no future relationship... so I break it off.
Am I alone in the world, or do I just not belong where I am?
Quite the pathetic thread, don't you agree? ;)
Ideas? Thought? Or your own personal relationship problems...
Let it all out here.
You're probably
a) ugly
b) a loser
c) thinking too much
So, what to do?
Drink first, then search for a connection.
Insanely Elite 10-25-04, 06:12 PM The western worlds system has all but broken down the traditional concepts of society. Neighborhoods hardly exist. Families are not a traditional unit. Coming of age is rarely commented upon. Our information age strongly supports an isolated consumer, bound by a mock tv inspired sense of community.
Getting bummed out won't help. Since you ask for advice, I'd say just be yourself around others, and be around others. And don't worry so much about outcomes. You are not alone in the world, yet you and you alone are responsible for the life you have.
Good Luck.
I find girls that are hot, but I just can't connect with them, thus there is no future relationship... so I break it off.Poor boy. Never underestimate the power of sex.
A Canadian 10-25-04, 06:25 PM You're probably
a) ugly
b) a loser
c) thinking too much
So, what to do?
Drink first, then search for a connection.
A: By the standards of celebrities and magazines, YES.
B: What really definds a loser anyways? Loser can be used as an insult, but can it really define a person?
C: I do think alot, but I keep my toughts to myself for the most part, unlike most poeple I know, who won't shut the heck up, wether they are right or wrong.
"Drink first and search for a connection....?" Sorry, I am not a male slut.
I do not go to loud bars where a buncha drunken fools go to for a good time or a one night stand.
I enjoy a fun night out... but I do night expect to find the right person in some club.
I rather talk to poeple, rather then drinking at a bar, dance like a fool, and make-out in the backseat of some car.
Even getting to know the gals at work, I cannot see myself being in a real relationship with them.
Ok... honestly, in this day and age... it is not hard to find someone inwhich you can have meaningless sex.... but to really find that ONE person that makes you happy and enjoy life...... why is it so hard?
dixonmassey 10-25-04, 06:43 PM You are far from being alone in being alone. It's better to be alone alone than to be alone in ego saving relationships.
gendanken 10-25-04, 06:43 PM Truthseeker:
Poor you.... You will be shred to pieces by some people here, even if you actually have a valid point.......
Oohhh.
Shut up.
Now:
A canadian:
I just cannot seem to connect with anyone...
You can meet so many poeple on the internet, but localy, I just cannot connect with poeple.
I think you are disillusioned because you are wanting it, for one.
Take a marriage- when spouse cheats and comes back, the feeling has changed and the relation suffers because now both are wanting to want it.
Also, I believe most people fail to connect because of insecurity or presumption.
You sound like a hybrid of both- around people you become conscious of yourself and those standards your reason has you dragging around, to the point of it being a hindrance, and any one step forward with people is met with three steps behind.
No?
All your encounters with people become their audition.
No?
I may be wrong, but I find the hardest thing for people to do around others that wish to know you, or connnect, is the overcoming of their vanity.
Why is it so hard? Simple probability.
There are plenty of people looking for sex, compatibility be damned.
However, the number of compatible people is far less than the total number of people.
Half the people you meet are incompatible because they are male (I'm assuming you're not bisexual). Then you seem to be paying too much attention to "hot girls," who may not be compatible, simply personalitywise.
That was rather convoluted, but I'm sure you understand me.
The standard of beauty has been pretty much the same in the Western world since the Greeks, and probably before. It has something to do with wealth, environment and leisure time. The media is a purely consumer oriented business, so what's good-looking is determined mostly by the consumer; otherwise it wouldn't be bought.
You misinterpreted what I meant by drinking. When slightly drunk, (hopefully) one becomes more personable, thus a connection can be more readily established.
A Candadian:
I find girls that are hot, but I just can't connect with them, thus there is no future relationship... so I break it off.
So you basically find physically appealing women, lie your ass off to get them into bed, then dump them without compunction when you realize that (suprise!) they are boring and vapid whores.
And...what precisely is wrong with that?
Admit that you're worthless. Your ego will probably get in the way, so you should cut the word "worthless" into your forehead with an exacto knife.
Just to remind yourself.
Be sure to drink plenty beforehand, it numbs the pain significantly.
dixonmassey 10-25-04, 06:54 PM There are two definition of a loser:'
Consumerism definition: you do not have cool car, house, girl with big tits to fuck, a job paying big bucks
True definition of a loser (as for me): you've invested so much time/efforts into something and than realized that all you've done is just a worthless BS; or, you've realized that your efforts were misdirected; or, you've realized you are not good at all despite all the efforts.
So, if after hunting for big titted sweety of your dreams for 10 years, you'll realize you cannot cut it; you'll be a loser (provided it'll be your life goal). BTW, you being "ugly" does not mean shit. There are plenty of beautiful women stuck with butt ugly men.
A Canadian 10-25-04, 07:12 PM So you basically find physically appealing women, lie your ass off to get them into bed, then dump them without compunction when you realize that (suprise!) they are boring and vapid whores.
NEVER have I lied to get a girl into bed and NEVER was Me Or She Drunk when we had "our moment." I want a girl who is physically good looking but also smart, and not a slut or self centered. And NEVER have I dumped a girl RIGHT after having sex with them! OK, me looking for one of the better looking girls is a bit shallow... but I honesly cannot see myself any other.
I always tend to get to know a girl, but as much as our relationship furthers, I just cannot see myself having a TURE relationship with them. Thus, the relationship ends...
Afraid of commitment you say? No.... I want commitment, but I cannot find anyone to commit with....
Either My standards are too high, I am doomed to be a loner for life, or I really just cannot find someone where true love will bloom.
eep.!
NEVER was Me Or She Drunk when we had "our moment." Never? Ever?
A Canadian
NEVER have I lied to get a girl into bed and NEVER was Me Or She Drunk when we had "our moment."
True. You're honest enough to say straight out it only takes "a moment"
Either My standards are too high, I am doomed to be a loner for life, or I really just cannot find someone where true love will bloom.
Atta boy. Now take one for the gene pool and go get a vasectomy!
Closet Philosopher 10-25-04, 07:33 PM A Canadian, I can understand your loneliness. I went to the school in the city, I had lots of friends, a good boyfriend, I'd go out every weekend and I was having a great time. THen graduation came and we all had to part our ways... I decided that I wanted to do science in university so I have to stay behind a year and get the proper credits. I'm not going to the locak hick town high school. I figured that I would meet new people since I always connected with people. It is not so. I have only been invited out once. It seems to be getting better though. The best way to meet people is to join groups and activities that you enjoy. Many of my friends in university met friends by joining study groups, skydiving clubs and varsity sports. If you have the opportunity to do that, I suggest you go for it. SOnce I do live in the middle of nowhere at the moment, it's also hard for me to find a good boyfriend.... oh well.... I don't want to put "bad" ideas into your head but certain substances will make you feel good temporarily when you really feel bad. If I do so on the weekend, discover the meaning of life, have an interesting conversation with my wall, and chat on MSN with people, I will usually feel good enough to last another week. Anyway... I'm not sure of the details of your situation. I'm sorry to inform you, but almost all men want a good looking smart woman. Being a woman myself, I can honestly tell you that that is hard to come by. The best way to meet people is to put yourself out there. Join clubs, learn something new (like karate or something), go to the beach, talk to people, be flamboyant, unleash yourself. If that diesn't work then say "fuck this, I'm moving". and them move to a better place. In my situation, I don't care anymore because I will never see the people I am around again when I go to university. I'm kind of having a "fuck it" attitude right now. The only peopson that had invited me to their house for a couple of joints and a beer was a teacher at my school. I went to his house even though it was a bit akward (actually, very). Me and my frinds used to go to the teachers houses (the hot twentysomething guys at my old school) but that was different. ANYWAY keep your head up, start something new. I'm sure that you will find someone and then through them, more people. Even a bit of a makeover or freshening up might help. I'm not telling oyu to change who you are, but you could make adjustments to how you express yourself. Women love thinkers. THe problem ios that they are usually cave dwellers. Things may look bleak now, but go for it! You have nothing to lose.
gendanken 10-25-04, 07:55 PM Whoa.
Got a little too caught up in mischief to realize he said 'hot' women.
Ergo:
Canadian, forgive my taking you for something other than horny, incompetent mold.
And say to you what I should have:
So you basically find physically appealing women, lie your ass off to get them into bed, then dump them without compunction when you realize that (suprise!) they are boring and vapid whores.
Tatum.
You are 'doomed' to be a loner, because you are here bitching about women in the 'real world'.
Five bucks says your keyboard is sticky.
c20H25N3o 10-25-04, 08:51 PM I just cannot seem to connect with anyone...
You can meet so many poeple on the internet, but localy, I just cannot connect with poeple.
I find girls that are hot, but I just can't connect with them, thus there is no future relationship... so I break it off.
Am I alone in the world, or do I just not belong where I am?
Quite the pathetic thread, don't you agree? ;)
Ideas? Thought? Or your own personal relationship problems...
Let it all out here.
You find it this way because you are not looking for some meaningless rubbish relationship. Good people are hard to find. You know, those that are not self serving, shallow, fickle etc etc. Most people on the net are out to show how 'clever' they are but they too are usually nothing more than egoists when you scratch the surface. My advice is, just keep your strength up and give people the benefit of the doubt whether they seem shallow or not. Don't lose patience with people. Even though people are generally shallow when you scratch the surface, you might find a whole heap of treasure if you keep digging down. I usually do.
Good luck
c20
My Sexy Blue Feet 10-25-04, 09:54 PM Ok... honestly, in this day and age... it is not hard to find someone inwhich you can have meaningless sex.... but to really find that ONE person that makes you happy and enjoy life...... why is it so hard?
You'd be surprised about how many people don't follow the steriotyped one night stand theory. I mean, a fair few people do, but they're the ones that are always talking about it, so that's all you hear. Not many people initially talk about they're morals unless they're prodded to. but there's many more people out there then you would suspect.
How about joining a club? or an association or something? It's easier to connect with someone at first when you have a common interest. Don't go looking for that one person, look for people you can associate with, for acquantences, or friends, because the world is small, and through your friends you will meet more and more people.
Fraggle Rocker 10-26-04, 06:18 PM Happiness is very hard to find these days. Chalk it up to the Paradigm Shift, to our bad luck to be living at the turnover of an Era, when all the rules are changing and everyone feels insecure. The people of the Western world today, and probably all the world, have no inner peace, have lost their center, are disconnected from themselves and others, don't know where they are going... you can phrase it any way you want, but we all feel, to a greater or lesser extent, like losers.
It's no wonder so many of us appear to be losers when you get to know us. We look that way to ourselves. Some of us have had enough therapy or are otherwise gifted and realize it, others carry it around in their unconscious.
You're not alone in this. I know that's not much solace, but it's about all I can say. I have some friends who I think are truly wonderful, and they can't find anybody to hook up with. Occasionally they actually meet someone who doesn't have a ton of baggage, nothing festering inside them waiting to spring out when they let their guard down, but, to use the word I hear most often in describing these encounters, "There's no chemistry between us."
What is going on around us saps our energy, saps our spirits, drains us of the power to be happy, to give happiness to others, to take chances including chances on people. We all so desperately need, that it's hard to give.
What I recommend to a man is very simple. We have a wonderful gift. We tend to fall in love with a woman who will have sex with us. That's a cheap, crappy thing to say, but sometimes it can save your life. I suppose in your own words I am indeed giving you the advice you say you don't want to hear, to "lower your standards," which really is a cheap, crappy thing to say. But what's the alternative? Spend your life alone, being a dysfunctional family of one?
Find some happiness. Grab it. Stop thinking about the long term, and give fate a chance to deal your hand. If you're a good person it will rub off on your companion. She will blossom under your care. For the goddess's sake, women have been doing that to us for thousands of years, seeing the jewel buried deep inside the pile of crap and spending years scraping off the crap so one day we look in the mirrorourselves and realize that's actually a rather fine human being staring back at us. Nothing wrong with returning the favor. Except of course the fact that we don't have the natural talent to do that the way women do, we are not nurturers.
So work on your nurturing skills. The next time a woman is attracted to you who is kind of nice, who turns your head, who isn't a complete basket case and seems to be basically honest, consider that the alternative is that life as a dysfunctional family of one. See what you can do with her. Everything you do that helps her will also be helping yourself. You'll both grow. Maybe one day you'll look in the mirror together and see two people that were always there and just needed to have the crap scraped away.
Life is too short to be worrying about forever. You really do have to live it one day at a time.
You seem like a really nice guy to me, and I'm old enough to be the alpha male of this entire website so coming from me that's a real compliment. You deserve to be happy. I can't tell you how to go out and find perfect storybook happiness, or even the kind of happiness that you may have seen older people find. (If you don't follow them home and discover the dysfunctionality in their lives.) But I can tell you that there is happiness out there and it's better than no happiness.
What you have to do is make a choice.
Frisbinator 10-26-04, 06:59 PM Think about how big of a pool you're taking from when on the internet. Just between you and me (and the people who are reading this post lol) I've met a couple of girls through Hot or Not and totally hooked up w/ 'em (hook up= not sex but kissing and other stuff) hot girls too. It's so much easier, actually a lot of people do it. Haven't really done it in a while tho'.......
I'll let you in on a big secret tho'.....the best way, to learn on how to make women/girls (depending on your age) look at you as a potential lover/boyfriend, is to find a book and read about it.
That is what made the biggest difference in my love life. A really good book is entitled "How to Succeed With Women". You surely can find it on Amazon. If you want to know a couple of key points that I have used personally and find effective, feel free to PM me, because I probably won't be checking back on this thread, but I'm always happy to help a brotha out.
cosmictraveler 10-26-04, 08:43 PM I just cannot seem to connect with anyone...
You can meet so many poeple on the internet, but localy, I just cannot connect with poeple.
I find girls that are hot, but I just can't connect with them, thus there is no future relationship... so I break it off.
Am I alone in the world, or do I just not belong where I am?
Quite the pathetic thread, don't you agree? ;)
Ideas? Thought? Or your own personal relationship problems...
Let it all out here.
Sometimes it is far better to be alone in life rather than be lonely. So many times the people that you think are who they say they are turn out to be quite the opposite.
Closet Philosopher 10-26-04, 09:47 PM Take 10 dried grams of shrooms, discover the meaning of life, then go out and look for people. Your perceptions will have changed. You will have more of a "fuck you" attitude. Sounds bad, right? Wrong. You'll be happier than ever. There are other ways to discover the meaning of life but.... I'm just giving an example.... Fuck it. Life is just a dream. Look at the palm of your hand and see your consciousness connecting with oters. The peoblem with that is that they are unaware of your collective identity. THat's when you look at them and say "fuck you".
From personal experience, I found mr. right once. He was intelligent (the #1 thing for guys in my mind). Before I continue, did you know that it is difficult to maintain a relationship with someone that is ten points lower or higher than you on their I.Q. score? I don't want to brag but I have a healthy I.Q. which will make it hard to connect with others on the intelligence level. Moving on... he was a kind of philosopher. We were both on a similar journey to be happy and figure out what life, our lives and the world is all about. We would talk for hours about the meaning of life, about sociological issues, about religion, faith, what was bothering us... everything. We were also very physically attracted to eachother which helped us have a very... plentiful sex life. Oh those were the days. Unfortunately, we had to part. I have the same kind of emptiness that you have, A Canadian. It's an amazing feeling to share everything with someone. You'll find it. Your standards ARE high. Never lower your standards for a relationship. It's what society want you to do so that you hook up with some hill billy whore and you spawn to feed the consumer fucking society. You're still young. Like I said, PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE. If you're unhappy, then you have nothing to lose. FUck your job. Fuck your living quarters. Fuck your parents. Fuck your friends. FUck it! GO OUT THERE. BE HAPPY. I'm not telling you to give everything up, just fuck it. Keep what you like. DOn't become a slave to society. If you're happy living in a dump having orgies with 5 60-year-old then DO IT. GO FOR IT. You only have one life, make the most of it. Befor you know it, you will be 25, the 30, then 35 and then eventually, it will be too late. You won't find a girlfriend on your death bed. I am asking you to go outside right now and run as fast as you can and scream as loud as you can. SCREAM, Yell "FUCK IT", yell whatever you please!!!!! THen start over. DO IT, NOW THrow everything you hate away. Take a deep breath, find your voice, your purpose, and recover the oh-so-lost spirit you used to have. Don't lower your standards. Make everyone else raise theirs. Evolve. Make others evolve. Make this work a better fucking place.
phlogistician 10-28-04, 05:15 AM I want a girl who is ... smart
That's your problem. You believe in aliens. No smart chick is going to ever going to take you seriously while you suffer delusions.
You might find a well qualified chick who seems to understand you, but it won't be a perfect relationship either, as you should never fuck your therapist.
(hmmmmmmm).......i kinda partly agree with some posters here...example, i like 'I LikeSalt's' advice to take some shrooms, and explore, but i dont like the 'fuck off' insight she got, nor the IQ rubbish. IQs dont mean jack shit. they were invented by middleclass psychologists to make middleclasses look smart. theys a pile of shit....my opinion
good adive you got about joining certain clubs....a good one would be a healthy pursiuts type of club. that way the girl you may find will be FIT, and into Nature--ie., something outside...walking, bicyclin, anything healthy. plus she may be a natrual looker. not wearing too much make up
YOU, stop mpoing and find interests yourself. guitar.....DJin, emmmm, get yourSELF fit. girls love fit lads..!
explore being funny. that is one big turn on. this is where shrooms come in very much too. with right set&setting, they will greatly enhance your sense of humour. help you see the funny side of a host of situations. so try that. start watchin standup comedians....humourous books whatever
but i say all this tentatively. i personally HATe adivce! i can find it dis-empowering. like when someone criticizes how you dress etc
so, take what i said or leave it. FIRSt TRUST yourself. what do YOU wanna?....and all this shit about being a loser cause you are on your won is complet crap. ther's nuthin wrong being on yer own. in fact, see it that you have more freedom. ther's nuthin worse than being lonely IN a relationship where you feel trapped, and constricted......
just be cool, keep fit, see funny side, but also be intouch with ALL how you feel....
cool
phlogistician 10-28-04, 09:06 AM [QUOTE=duendy this is where shrooms come in very much too. with right set&setting, they will greatly enhance your sense of humour. [/QUOTE]
Nope, you just think you're being funny, but laugh at stuff that just isn't funny. So he'd have to give them to his date, but he might have more success with Rohypnol.
so. you recommend him shrink med do you. is this why your name sounds like one??
and you are SO wrong. when what you see on shrrooms Is the source of funny, and you really are funny. what i feel from you is this.......dont mean to cause offense here, but i am being frank: i find it REALLY sad when people underestimate hallucinogens--and that is straihts. when the underestimators are the ones who HAVe experience it is doubly sad. it is something which intrigues me. personlly (and i dont want to derail thie subject of this thread....)right from my very first experiences they have had a profound influence on my worldview and encouraged loads of researches into their history etc., so i can nev er understand when people dont grokk em like me and others os a similar respect,
You will have more of a "fuck you" attitude.
Ah yes...the 'fuck you' attitude. :) The #1 motivator. But you forgot to mention one thing: theres a tendancy to become complacent once you've satisfied a few goals. I'd know because I've always drifted in and out of this fuck you attitude. It turned me into more of a pessimist than a better person.
Don't actively trying to not waste your life out of desperation. Instead of saying 'fuck you', say 'fuck myself'. Take responsibility for your decisions in life, but don't take the world on your shoulders. And don't try to control everything, because you can't. Just laugh when something goes wrong.
TruthSeeker 10-28-04, 03:38 PM (hmmmmmmm).......i kinda partly agree with some posters here...example, i like 'I LikeSalt's' advice to take some shrooms, and explore, but i dont like the 'fuck off' insight she got, nor the IQ rubbish. IQs dont mean jack shit. they were invented by middleclass psychologists to make middleclasses look smart. theys a pile of shit....my opinion
Soooo true! Altough I don't know about the "middleclass psychologists" part.... The test seems pretty biased, actually. If you give it to someone in Africa that knows the names of hundreds of birds and herbs to cure all sorts of sickness, that person practically "fail" the test... :rolleyes:
Just laugh when something goes wrong.
Best piece of advice someone can give.... :cool:
phlogistician 10-29-04, 05:56 AM Duendy, are saying that he should take hallucinogens and _imagine_ he has a girlfriend then? ;-)
BTW, I thnk you need to go look up what 'Rohypnol' is famous for, to get the humour in my post.
2 choices just sprung in my head....either for a fine hard on...or, a date rape drug..? hope not the latter. might as well go get a blow up doll
Balder1 10-29-04, 12:19 PM I feel the same way, but I want a girl who is both hot and smart.
TruthSeeker 10-29-04, 12:50 PM I feel the same way, but I want a girl who is both hot and smart.
Maybe you are a little bit to optimistic... :D
I mean.... there ARE girls that are like that. But finding one.... and that has no boyfriend....... :eek:
Well... at least you are not as optimistic as I am! I want one that is hot, smart and funny! :D
Why do either of those qualities really matter so much? I seriously don't get how you can 'be your true self' around your complete opposite, TS ;)
TruthSeeker 10-30-04, 12:34 PM Haha.... so funny....
I could have much higher standards if I wanted. But I guess that would be a waste of time...
gabrial 10-31-04, 05:11 AM Turn your computer off, and take a good look around, in the real world.
I doubt that would be to your benefit. Like they say-- you're a 5 asking for all 10's. Possible, but so damn ackward if you ever hooked up...
c20H25N3o 10-31-04, 11:39 AM Truthseeker, you forgot how far away 3 years time is.
Ten zillion things could happen in that time! Now I might be being a dumbass here but I rarely find that I find what I am looking for without a bit of frustration first. Love is patient and kind. That means it is patient and kind to you as well as patient and kind in you
Just be patient. You will meet her!
be well
c20
TruthSeeker 11-01-04, 02:38 PM I doubt that would be to your benefit. Like they say-- you're a 5 asking for all 10's. Possible, but so damn ackward if you ever hooked up...
What are you basing your grading on? :bugeye:
I'm both logical and spiritual. I represent about 1% of the population (according to the Myers-Briggs (http://www.haleonline.com/psychtest/index.php) test<sup>1</sup>). Finding someone that valorizes both sides of their brains is extremely hard.
Logical people usuallly completely deny any spiritual part of themselves or the world. they deny that half of their brains actually exist, ort that has any validity whatsoever. :bugeye:
As for spiritual people, they are usually either not used to logical argumentation or, like the logical ones, deny half of their brains.
It is hard to be both spiritual and logical at the same time. It is practically impossible. It is like reading two books at the same time.
As a result, my personality often splits itself into two different opposite positions. Oxymorons and paradoxes are the natural result of this primary chracteristic of my personality.
With this primary characteristic in my personality, even if I have low stardarts, I'm unlikely to find someone that I can actually identify with (doesn't mean it is not going to happen).
<sup>1</sup>I actually took the real complete one, in college.
Truthseeker, you forgot how far away 3 years time is.
It is not going to take that long.
Ten zillion things could happen in that time! Now I might be being a dumbass here but I rarely find that I find what I am looking for without a bit of frustration first.
20 years are enough, don't you think?
Just be patient. You will meet her!
Whatever. I have plenty things to distract myself while I wait. Just my list of books is already enough :eek:
phlogistician 11-02-04, 10:28 AM I represent about 1% of the population (according to the Myers-Briggs test<sup>1</sup>). Finding someone that valorizes both sides of their brains is extremely hard.
The 1% that uses the word 'valorizes' out of context?
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=valorizes
Logical people usuallly completely deny any spiritual part of themselves or the world. they deny that half of their brains actually exist, ort that has any validity whatsoever.
I think you'll find that the hemisperical split in the brain is between logic and creativity, not login and spirituality, unless you admit, that spirituality is purely a human invention, and has no external reality.
As a result, my personality often splits itself into two different opposite positions. ...
With this primary characteristic in my personality, ..., I'm unlikely to find someone that I can actually identify with .
Have you thought about dating yourself? Your split personalities should get on like a house on fire, after all, allegedly, opposites attract!
Closet Philosopher 11-02-04, 10:55 AM You guys just want Britney Spears with a degree in philosophy to walk by. It's not going to happen.
No, I want an Eva Herzigova with the soul of Mother Teresa and the wit of a regular Audrey Hepburn. Just friends though, I hate to sound like a stereotypical wuss, but I'd rather not be "worthy".
I'd also kill for a Jessica Simpson that knows how to fill the gas tank on her car :p
TruthSeeker 11-02-04, 10:48 PM The 1% that uses the word 'valorizes' out of context?
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=valorizes
It is not out of context. That's the sad part of it.... :eek:
I think you'll find that the hemisperical split in the brain is between logic and creativity, not login and spirituality, unless you admit, that spirituality is purely a human invention, and has no external reality.
Creativity is a function of spirituality. pirituality is bigger than creativity. Creativity comes from spirituality, not the other way around. For example, God created the universe. Spirituality is creative power.
Have you thought about dating yourself? Your split personalities should get on like a house on fire, after all, allegedly, opposites attract!
What's the point of that? :bugeye:
sargentlard 11-02-04, 10:55 PM You guys just want Britney Spears with a degree in philosophy to walk by. It's not going to happen.
Why not?....
TruthSeeker 11-02-04, 11:05 PM Oh! Now I understand your little joke, sargentlard... LOL :D:D:D
i.e. ( . )( . ) + BEER = FUN
sargentlard 11-02-04, 11:07 PM Oh! Now I understand your little joke, sargentlard... LOL :D:D:D
i.e. ( . )( . ) + BEER = FUN
Yeah...boobies rule don't they...so warm, so inviting. Golden orbes of joy I tells ya.
yesemina 11-02-04, 11:08 PM I just cannot seem to connect with anyone...
You can meet so many poeple on the internet, but localy, I just cannot connect with poeple.
I find girls that are hot, but I just can't connect with them, thus there is no future relationship... so I break it off.
Am I alone in the world, or do I just not belong where I am?
Quite the pathetic thread, don't you agree?
Ideas? Thought? Or your own personal relationship problems...
Let it all out here.
I haven't read this entire thread, but I'll post my opinion anyhow.
First of all, there are a lot of guys out there I might look at as "hot," but I guess for me, being "hot" isn't what I look for primarily. Looks help, but they shouldn't have any direct connection to whether you will connect with the person or not. So, there is no reason to fret about that. Maybe you will find a girl one day who is attractive to you and that you also connect with, or maybe you'll find a girl who you just connect with which makes you enough attracted to her as is.
Are you alone in the world? The world is a vast place my friend. I highly doubt you are alone. Somewhere there will be somebody who you can connect with. I connect with many different people but on different levels; and those who end up being really long-term good friends are those who I can relate to on the deepest levels, and they are usually few in number.
Aside from that, worrying if you are "alone" or not in a world full of infinitely different kinds of people won't get you anywhere, as long as you are true to yourself you should find satisfaction in that.
TS,
Even if you do represent 1% of the population -according to meyer briggs- that doesn't make you a unique person. Do you follow?
By accepting the fact that you are 1%, you're voluntarily restricting yourself. All of this psychology is a crock. Its not in cement. They're guidelines. You should know, there are as many different types of people out there as there are genetic combinations, and you will NEVER get along perfectly with a single person. You may find somebody great, but statistically, it will not last: Its called entropy.
I will say it again: You should work more on bettering yourself than desperately trying to find someone that 'brings out the best in you' based on silly profiles.. This applies to everyone.
sargentlard 11-02-04, 11:41 PM Xerxes...will you marry me? I want to have your kids.
phlogistician 11-03-04, 04:27 AM It is not out of context. That's the sad part of it....
No, the sad part is you can't have bothered looking up the definition of the word, and couldn't be bothered to explain how you feel a monetary term is applicable to your supposed intellect.
Creativity is a function of spirituality. pirituality is bigger than creativity. Creativity comes from spirituality, not the other way around.
So says you. But most accept the hemispherical split between logic and creativity, and 'spirituality' isn't mentioned in this context. So you are just twisting definitions to suit yourself. This makes your posts meaningless. We need common terms of reference to communicate, and you a devaluing them. (you know about value, right?)
For example, God created the universe.
Oh really. I think you'll find that's heavily disputed. Again, if you base your arguments on this opening premise, you aren't going to get very far. Well, certainly not amongst anyone who really does value logic.
What's the point of that?
Dating yourself? Maybe I was being too subtle. I was implying you are a wanker, and a schizophrenic. You know, creative use of language?
TruthSeeker 11-03-04, 12:24 PM Even if you do represent 1% of the population -according to meyer briggs- that doesn't make you a unique person. Do you follow?
Ahhhhh.... nope. It's a psychology test and it tells a whole lot about me. It means that I am an INFP (Introverted Intuitive Feeling Perceiving).
By accepting the fact that you are 1%, you're voluntarily restricting yourself.
Well... I actually like being 1% of the population. The values of this society are so rotten and selfish that I wouldn't stand being like everyone else. Guess what is the type most people are in North America? This is it: ESTJ. Which are very often much colder and judgemental people. Yuuckk...
All of this psychology is a crock. Its not in cement. They're guidelines.
Oh yeah, sure. But they are a base for accurate perception.
You should know, there are as many different types of people out there as there are genetic combinations,
Ahhh.... no. There are many variations of each type, but those types actually represent most of the population.
and you will NEVER get along perfectly with a single person. You may find somebody great, but statistically, it will not last: Its called entropy.
Of course it can last. I've seen many couples together for decades.
I will say it again: You should work more on bettering yourself than desperately trying to find someone that 'brings out the best in you' based on silly profiles.. This applies to everyone.
I'm not basing it on silly profiles, I'm providing evidence.
This is really hilarious. If I say that I'm unique, nobody believes me and ask for proof. And then I give the proof and they say that now I'm basing myself on that proof. How hilarious... :bugeye:
Funny thing that a silly profile is actually used world wide, often cost more than $100 to make and it is used in behavioral research world-wide... :rolleyes:
geodesic 11-03-04, 05:18 PM TruthSeeker:
For example, God created the universe.
Maybe, but God isn't spiritual, as he has no faith.
It is not out of context. That's the sad part of it....
So exactly how are you increasing the value or status of your brain in an organised way?
TruthSeeker 11-03-04, 05:41 PM Maybe, but God isn't spiritual, as he has no faith.
Of course He has faith. How do you think He created the universe!?!?
Besides, He is a "spirit" (i.e. non-physical).
So exactly how are you increasing the value or status of your brain in an organised way?
By not neglecting half of it.
No, the sad part is you can't have bothered looking up the definition of the word, and couldn't be bothered to explain how you feel a monetary term is applicable to your supposed intellect.
Try this (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=valorize) site....... :rolleyes:
"2. To give or assign a value to: “The prophets valorized history” (Mircea Eliade)."
You probably don't have a very broad vocabulary.... :rolleyes:
So says you. But most accept the hemispherical split between logic and creativity, and 'spirituality' isn't mentioned in this context. So you are just twisting definitions to suit yourself.
Most accept such definition because they are the logical people who deny spirituality!
But in a way, you are right. Logic vs Creativity is better to define the hemispherical split. God is both logical and creative, and so is spirituality.
As I said, creativity comes from spirituality.
This makes your posts meaningless. We need common terms of reference to communicate, and you a devaluing them. (you know about value, right?)
You don't even know what that word means. You just looked it up after I said it. You probably didn't even know it before. I've known that word for years because I used a similar one in Portuguese (as your site rightly points out). You see.... people that know quite a few languages have larger vocabularies simply because they know the semantic variations of words throughout the languages. It's, then, hard to communicate with you... :rolleyes:
Oh really. I think you'll find that's heavily disputed. Again, if you base your arguments on this opening premise, you aren't going to get very far. Well, certainly not amongst anyone who really does value logic.
This thread is not about that.
Dating yourself? Maybe I was being too subtle. I was implying you are a wanker, and a schizophrenic. You know, creative use of language?
That's simply ignorant. What can I say?
phlogistician 11-04-04, 05:05 AM Try this (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=valorize) site.......
"2. To give or assign a value to: “The prophets valorized history” (Mircea Eliade)."
You probably don't have a very broad vocabulary....
A stretch, to use the second definition to justify a clumsy sentence, that could have been phrased so much better.
Most accept such definition because they are the logical people who deny spirituality!
Yep, I deny spirituality, and nobody has proven it. So it's all stinky wind I'm afraid, and so is everything spoken about it.
God is both logical and creative, and so is spirituality.
First prove god exists, before assigning attributes.
As I said, creativity comes from spirituality.
There's merely your assertion, but has no basis in fact.
You don't even know what that word means. You just looked it up after I said it.
Right, I go looking up every word hoping to find fault do I? Or did it's usage stick out like a sore thumb?
You probably didn't even know it before. I've known that word for years because I used a similar one in Portuguese
Know the phrase 'lost in translation'?
You see.... people that know quite a few languages have larger vocabularies simply because they know the semantic variations of words throughout the languages. It's, then, hard to communicate with you...
Well, I speak, English, French, and some German. Sorry, what was your point again?
This thread is not about that.
Then don't bring god into it.
That's simply ignorant. What can I say?
Not ignorant, perhaps you mean insulting? Yes, I fully admit, it was a creative insult. Well, until I had to get blunt and explain it, anyway.
420Joey 11-04-04, 07:32 AM Newsflash : No Pretty Girls Exist in Those Dating Websites. If You Find One, There is Something Definitely Wrong with Them.
TruthSeeker 11-04-04, 11:25 AM A stretch, to use the second definition to justify a clumsy sentence, that could have been phrased so much better.
Oh! So the second definition is a "stretch"? Let's see the second definition of the word.... "definition (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=definition)"!
2. The act or process of stating a precise meaning or significance; formulation of a meaning.
Now, compare it to the first!
1.a.A statement conveying fundamental character.
b.A statement of the meaning of a word, phrase, or term, as in a dictionary entry.
Which one is the better!? Right! The second one! No! It makes no difference!
Duh!
No, it couldn't have been phrased much better. You are just plain not flexible enough with language. "Valorize" have a long history coming from Latin. It is not a little pointless word. It is actually a word used by well educated people. Which is why you won't find much of it in sciforums... :rolleyes:
Altough there are some here that might use the word. But certainly not the majority.
Yep, I deny spirituality, and nobody has proven it. So it's all stinky wind I'm afraid, and so is everything spoken about it.
Argumentum ad ignorantiam (http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#ignorantiam)
"Argumentum ad ignorantiam means "argument from ignorance." The fallacy occurs when it's argued that something must be true, simply because it hasn't been proved false. Or, equivalently, when it is argued that something must be false because it hasn't been proved true."
Once again, I use an atheist website against atheists..... :rolleyes:
First prove god exists, before assigning attributes.
That's ot the point of the thread.
Right, I go looking up every word hoping to find fault do I? Or did it's usage stick out like a sore thumb?
No. You simply didn't know what it meant. Which is ok, you know? Nobody knows everything.
Know the phrase 'lost in translation'?
Doesn't have anything to do with this. I study those words. I know what they mean and I know the origins of them. Have you ever heard of the word "value"? Is that word also "lost in translation"? Because this word that is widely used in English came from the word "valorize". Oh my! So the Englsih language is full of s***! No. Guess who doesn't know nearly 1,000 of the more then 5,000 words in the English language (way more then 5,000, actually)?
Well, I speak, English, French, and some German. Sorry, what was your point again?
Which one you speak fluently, if any?
Then don't bring god into it.
You brought Him.
Not ignorant, perhaps you mean insulting? Yes, I fully admit, it was a creative insult. Well, until I had to get blunt and explain it, anyway.
Yes.... I guess you have a lot of etymological knowledge..... :rolleyes:
I'm sorry... I just have to play with you....
Curious 11-04-04, 05:20 PM I will say it again: You should work more on bettering yourself than desperately trying to find someone that 'brings out the best in you' based on silly profiles.. This applies to everyone.
Sometimes it's good to get slapped with the rough and hairy backhand of reality.
Insanely Elite 11-06-04, 04:28 PM This thread is still active?
Hey A Canadian,
Did you get your answer yet, buddy? Four pages of 'advice' all for you. More or less. Nobody can define you man. Be yourself and it'll work out. If you feel chemistry with someone go for it. I like Salt has some good insights into carpe dium. Blue mushrooms are optional.
The book that was suggested might not be your best bet. 'How to hypnotize hot chicks' or whatever. If you're looking for a good read on women for a real, committed relationship, try 'Letters to Phillip'. I forget the authors name. It was written many years ago, compiled from a marriage councilors notes to his son. Although it is a bit dated, timeless information on the opposite sex abounds. It makes Men are from Mars.... look like a Hackjob.
Anyway post a reply soon, we're down to anal sex and blow up dolls. Soon we might loose the focus of the thread.
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