Red Devil
06-19-04, 06:27 PM
Take a look around this fertile, blue, cosy world we live on, look at all the diverse lifeforms, many more still be be discovered and ask yourselves this question:
Are humans really supposed to be here?
We do not fit into Mother Natures plans at all. There is no place on this planet for the human species. Everything we touch turns to ashes, including ourselves. We destroy thousands of years of natures creation in a matter of days, months, decades. We are poisoning the very air that we need to live and the plants that create it.
Were we dumped here, from somewhere out there, in the backwaters of the universe, in order to keep us out of the way?
The world isn't cosy Red Devil, and nature doesn't have a plan. Human's are one result of the same ~4 billion years of blind evolution responsible for every other living thing on the planet and as far as anything has a right to be here, humans have a right to be here. It seems to be a commonly held misconception among woolly-thinking new age types that nature is fundamentally nice and gentle and caring and kind - something like a 'Love is' cartoon. It's more accurate to say that nature is inherently cruel, but even that's anthropomorphizing too much.
Dreamwalker
06-20-04, 09:42 AM
Well, humans have tried hard to master nature. They did not want to be controlled by something, they wanted to have all control by themself becasue it gave them a feeling of security. We now have mastered nature to some extend, but somehow, the control exerted by humans always draws destruction after it.
We no longer see ourself as subjects under nature´s rule. We are the rulers, that resulted in arrogance, and a certain level uf luxus. Since we do not want to give up anything of that, we happily continue our destructive lifestyle. But we are still part of this ball of rock and water. But that is not keeping us from fucking it up big time.
Red Devil
06-20-04, 06:41 PM
Would any of you subscribe to the slight possibility that we are not natives of this planet then?
I'm certain we're as native as every other creature.
Are Humans Excess Baggage
Yup, in the same way that loose cancer cells are baggage in the bloodstream.
Agent Smith was right.
Dee Cee
the_greenvision
06-21-04, 06:56 AM
I'm certain we're as native as every other creature.
Yep. And I'd suppose that we're the luckiest of the lot in the evolutionary game. We played it so damn well.
Adaptability kept us alive at first, then language and social bonding kept us going. Intelligence made us thrive.
Now we're spreading like cancer cells.
Dr Lou Natic
06-21-04, 07:57 AM
Would any of you subscribe to the slight possibility that we are not natives of this planet then?
We do behave like an introduced species on a global scale. You would have expected the eco-system we evolved in to evolve with us.
Its all very curious and an understanding of ecology does make one scratch their head when they come to humans.
But, its also very obvious we are related to earth's other organisms.
I'd be more ready to consider theories about something interfering with the native species that is homo sapiens than theories suggesting we actually come from another planet.
I do secretly have an inkling that aliens posed as "god" and told us how we naturally behave is wrong and to behave differently in a way that wasn't in harmony with our eco-system which lead to the global epidemic of humans we see today. But I don't have enough evidence to seriously present my theory... yet.
eburacum45
06-21-04, 08:37 AM
Studies of genetic inheritance essentially rule out the possibility that we are an intoduced species.
Far from it; we are the reproductive cells of the great superorganism that is Gaia.
Humanity is destined to carry the ecosphere of the Earth to other lifeless planets, and propagate it there; we will be responsible for the greening of the galaxy using the life of our mother planet.
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