Apple vs intel (http://www.reed-electronics.com/electronicnews/article/CA606589?nid=2019&rid=2004296793&)

Does it mean we can install on our PC the OS of apple like windows?

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=46844

As I understand there has been an internal Apple OSX x86 version for some years now,
but I think that in some 2 or 3 years time - yes, you would be able to (official release).

Alas, I prefer Linux :)

Probably not. Apply likes to keep hardware/software exclusive to eachother.

How will they do it with a x86 chip? Or will it be some fusion or even *gasp* emulation of ppc?
Or is intel going to make ppc chips?

link:

http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3510821

http://news.com.com/Its+Intel+inside+for+Apples+Mac/2009-1006_3-5733937.html?tag=nl.caro

More info, lots of links.

This article made me chuckle...

http://news.com.com/2100-1043-5706658.html?tag=tb

Microsoft and Apple in bed together? Who would have thought?

Having covered this for tha past few days (^h^h^h^h years), and also having a few friends at the WWDC, where the announcement was made, this is how things look:
1)Apple will begin selling x86 based Macintosh computers in 2006, starting with the consumer lines. Power Macs and Powerbooks will switch to x86 ISA-based machines in early '07
4)All versions of OSX have been compiled for x86, Just in Case this switch was ever executed.
3)All existing PPC code that does not use Altivec (also called Velocity Engine) will be able to run on the x86 machines via a binary emulator called "Rosetta". Rosetta is based on Tech from a compnay called Transitive which Apple has dealt with for a while now.
4) All new code will be compiled into "Universal Binaries" - they will hold code that will run on both PPC and x86. This will be made possible by checking off some options in XCode v 2.1 - "Compile for PPC" + "Compile for x86"= Universal binary.
5)Altivec code is now depretiated, and should not be invested in beyond maintinance.
6)The first Intel chip to be used in commercial Macintels will most likely be Yonah, the next-gen P-M version. The Netburst P4 bohemoths will most likely never exisit in a Macintel outside of the dev boxes.
7)The dev boxes are a custom motherboard based loosly on the existing G5 board. They are NOT just a G5 board with a P4 3.6Ghz chip in them. They are different, custom boards, not represetative of any final shipping product.
8) In order to get access to a dev box, you have to be a Select Developer ($500 memebership fee), and then you rent the box for the next year ($999)
9) Apple is developing for x86, while Microsoft develops for PPC (XBOX 360). Crazy.

10) The x86 boxes will not run Open Firmware, but will use a PC BIOS. There is hope that Intel's EFI will replace the BIOS quickly.
11)OSX will not run on non-Apple x86 hardware. How this will be enforced is up in the air, and how long it will take someone to hack the system to allow OSX to install on any machine is also unknown. NO Apple-produced drivers for non-apple hardware will exist.
12)Apple will not prevent, nor will they help, in getting Windows to install on Apple hardware.
13) Leopard, the next version of OSX (10.5) will be available next year, and will run on both arch.


I personally think that once Windows runs on Apple machines, then Apple as a hardware compnay is dead. I've said this elsewhere:
Developers who can program once for Windows and 98%(95%+3%) of the market, are not developers who program for OSX, and it's 3% only.

Steve Jobs brought NeXT through this transition in the early 90's shortly before NeXT became a software-only company, and then was purchased by Apple for the creation of OSX.
Hopefully history will not repeat itself, and Apple can gain ground as an alternate OS for desktop Intel hardware, unlike Linux.

Hopefully history will not repeat itself, and Apple can gain ground as an alternate OS for desktop Intel hardware, unlike Linux.
Thank you for your concerns, but I'm just fine here with my Linux desktop.

:D cool. Which distro are you on?



Hannibal provides more info and speculation;
http://arstechnica.com/columns/mac/mac-20050608.ars

and it seems that the next P-M chip is Conroe, not Yonah

Linux Mandriva 2005 (former- Mandrake)

Mandriva? :confused: I had not heard about that name change.

Yeah, that's because of a France court ruling. One comic book series claimed copyrights on the word Mandrake (the magician). In the early versions MandrakeSoft had used a magician in their wallpapers, so they couldn't say that they had ment the plant and not the comic book person.
So they had to change it. At the same time they bought Connectiva Linux, so they sorta merged both names and made Mandriva.

Further proof that the French are needlessly stupid.

You've got to be kidding me. You can't copyright a name... it's a fucking name.

Are they going to forced people to change their children's names to something other than Mandrake because someone wrote his name in a book? Ugh. How utterly ridiculous.

Well, in the USA one guy named Mike Rowe (~19) was sued into court by Microsoft, because the guy developed software and had made a website named www.mikerowesoft.com
It ended that MS just gave the guy a shitload of their software for free and some free MS training courses so that he stop using that website for his software purposes.
I heard it's a forum now. :D

copyright is for expression of an idea or thought, ergo the name comes under it naturally.If i am not mistaken Apple is basically going to bring a storm in market by its new x86 based PCs. I would say prices will also reduce. But i"ll wait for Long horn still.