:cool: This might sound a little like starwars or startrek. If you can use antinitrogen and nitrogen in a collision the gamma rays being produced will provide the thrust. Supergravity collector devices will condense and collect the gamma rays and provide them for the splitting of the electromagnetic energy using proton collisions to create miniature black holes and form positrons and electrons, recreating anti matter providing the thrust once again. There will be many layers of CO2, H2O, C, PB, H2, O2, shielding the crew from radiation.

please note I am not insulting your intelligence in anyway whatsoever, but allow me to be blunt.

That's a bunch of garbage. For now...

Most of what you said is just impossible physically. There's no such thing as "minature" black holes. there is a black hole, a huge black hole, or there is no black hole. Its kind of like Critical Mass, you can't make a tiny nuke. it will always be a minimum size explosion, which is very large in that case. The only problem with anti-matter as a fuel, is that it releases to much energy to be contained by anything (A penny could get you to Alpha Centauri and back). It is also hard to produce, as we have only been able to make positrons so far. (positive charged electrons) Making negativly charged Protons is a feat that not only is hard, but dangerous. What happens when it touches its container after all.

Perhaps, however. Some of what you said is possible. It's hard to imagine such things when little has been researched so far on it. Anti-matter is one thing, but when you get into anti-elements, then its gets sticky.

In terms of production, humanity has so far produced sufficient anti-matter to light a lightbulb for a few minutes.

Unfortunately, from what I understand of your idea, even your basic physics is flawed... utterly flawed... as what you suggest is like thinking that you can stand in a boat, blow into the sails and expect to move...
The emission of the gamma rays might produce your thrust, but the collection of those same gamma rays will give you an equal amount of thrust in the other direction - and all you will have is a stationary machine / ship.

And if you think: "well, only collect the gamma rays that don't go in the direction of thrust that you want" - then all you're doing is a rather complex means of focusing thrust in a certain direction - using excess amounts of anti-matter to do it and using the excess energy created to produce more anti-matter.
Why not just use less anti-matter each time but focus ALL the thrust in the direction you want. No need to re-create it.


And this is just commenting on your basic physics.

please note I am not insulting your intelligence in anyway whatsoever, but allow me to be blunt.

That's a bunch of garbage. For now...

Most of what you said is just impossible physically. There's no such thing as "minature" black holes. there is a black hole, a huge black hole, or there is no black hole. Its kind of like Critical Mass, you can't make a tiny nuke. it will always be a minimum size explosion, which is very large in that case. The only problem with anti-matter as a fuel, is that it releases to much energy to be contained by anything (A penny could get you to Alpha Centauri and back). It is also hard to produce, as we have only been able to make positrons so far. (positive charged electrons) Making negativly charged Protons is a feat that not only is hard, but dangerous. What happens when it touches its container after all.

Perhaps, however. Some of what you said is possible. It's hard to imagine such things when little has been researched so far on it. Anti-matter is one thing, but when you get into anti-elements, then its gets sticky.

Can I just say, that you statement, ''There is no such thing as a miniature black hole,'' may not be completely true. In fact, electrons by Greene have been posited as special micro-black holes.

The first post in this thread didn't make any sense, but almost everything here is wrong.
please note I am not insulting your intelligence in anyway whatsoever, but allow me to be blunt.

That's a bunch of garbage. For now...

Most of what you said is just impossible physically. There's no such thing as "minature" black holes. there is a black hole, a huge black hole, or there is no black hole. Its kind of like Critical Mass, you can't make a tiny nuke. it will always be a minimum size explosion, which is very large in that case.
Black holes require a critical density, not a critical mass. Any amount of mass, no matter how small, could become a black hole if it is compressed enough. The only problem with anti-matter as a fuel, is that it releases to much energy to be contained by anything
The energy can be contained/captured with magnetic fields, or other tricks.

(A penny could get you to Alpha Centauri and back).
Not really. Even with antimatter, a large fraction of the mass of your ship will need to be antimatter fuel if you want to travel to another star in a short amount of time. And by "short" I mean a few years. Suppose you had a ship that whose mass was 50% structure and 50% matter/antimatter fuel. Assuming the best possible efficiency in your engine, it would still take you about 8 years to get to alpha centauri. And you would blow through the system at half the speed of light. If you wanted to slow back down when you got there, you would need a ship that was something like 75% matter/antimatter fuel by mass.

It is also hard to produce, as we have only been able to make positrons so far. (positive charged electrons) Making negativly charged Protons is a feat that not only is hard, but dangerous. What happens when it touches its container after all.

Anti-hydrogen (with positrons orbiting around antiprotons) has been produced at CERN labs in Europe.

Most people have an inflated impression as to how powerfull an antimatter explosion would be. That antimatter penny would have a yeild much smaller than most of the nuclear weapons in the US arsenal. Half a gram of antimatter would be in the neighborhood of 20KT, iirc. That's a Nagasaki size fission warhead.

E=MC²

1 kiloton of TNT=4,2TJ

a penny weights 3,56 grams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_one_penny_coin)* speed of light²= 320TJ
And will annihilate a equal amount of normal matter so times 2= 640TJ

So your penny would have a destruction capability of 152,57 killoton,

I gues your right with the 2OKT for half a gram but don't underestimate small sizes. A penny's worth more then you think

The first post in this thread didn't make any sense, but almost everything here is wrong.

Black holes require a critical density, not a critical mass. Any amount of mass, no matter how small, could become a black hole if it is compressed enough.
The energy can be contained/captured with magnetic fields, or other tricks.

Not really. Even with antimatter, a large fraction of the mass of your ship will need to be antimatter fuel if you want to travel to another star in a short amount of time. And by "short" I mean a few years. Suppose you had a ship that whose mass was 50% structure and 50% matter/antimatter fuel. Assuming the best possible efficiency in your engine, it would still take you about 8 years to get to alpha centauri. And you would blow through the system at half the speed of light. If you wanted to slow back down when you got there, you would need a ship that was something like 75% matter/antimatter fuel by mass.

Anti-hydrogen (with positrons orbiting around antiprotons) has been produced at CERN labs in Europe.

Did you read my post, or just skim it?

I never said you needed a critical mass for a black hole, I was using critical mass as an analogy to the density thats required for a black hole.

I am talking about the energy released by an antimatter elimination, not by holding it.

you think that antimatter is not incredibly powerful? when I say a penny of anti-matter, I mean all the electrons AND protons in a penny. if I was only talking about a penny of anti-electrons then no, it could not get you there. You do know how much bigger than an electron a Proton is right?

as far as your anti-hydrogen. I had not heard of that.

Learn to read, and don't skip words that determine the entire meaning of what i'm saying.

how much bigger than an electron a Proton is right?
I haven't got the foggiest idea what yout talking abouyh

A gram of antimatter is still confined by E = MC^2, regardless of composition.

And you still haven't responded about your supposed "blowing into the sails of a ship to make it move" - which is still a flaw in just your basic physics.

I am talking about the energy released by an antimatter elimination, not by holding it.

you think that antimatter is not incredibly powerful? when I say a penny of anti-matter, I mean all the electrons AND protons in a penny. if I was only talking about a penny of anti-electrons then no, it could not get you there. You do know how much bigger than an electron a Proton is right?

You have no idea what you are talking about. All that matters is the mass of the antimatter, not what form it is. A kg of antimatter gets you 1.8x10^17 joules. That's something like 40 megatons of energy - quite a lot, but it could be matched by large nuclear bombs. A penny would only be about a gram, which would be much less - maybe a very small nuke. Do the math yourself and check, if you can. In any case, it certainly wouldn't get you to another star any time soon. My numbers about how much of your ship would need to be antimatter stand.

Learn to read, and don't skip words that determine the entire meaning of what i'm saying.
Or maybe you should learn some science, so that people don't have to correct you.

E=MC²

1 kiloton of TNT=4,2TJ

a penny weights 3,56 grams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_one_penny_coin)* speed of light²= 320TJ
And will annihilate a equal amount of normal matter so times 2= 640TJ

So your penny would have a destruction capability of 152,57 killoton,

I gues your right with the 2OKT for half a gram but don't underestimate small sizes. A penny's worth more then you think

Yeah, I was too lazy to look up the weight of a penny. It's a little more than I thought. But the point I was trying to make is that it won't push a starship across the galaxy, or blow up the earth. Which is what many who have never bothered to do the calculation seem to think. ;)

150 kt is actually on the low side for thermonuclear weapons. Iirc, most of the US designs have a nominal full yield of ~350 kt or greater. (some of those are 'dial a yield' designs, that supposedly can be set for 100 t, 20 kt, or full yield)

150 kt is actually on the low side for thermonuclear weapons. Iirc, most of the US designs have a nominal full yield of ~350 kt or greater. (some of those are 'dial a yield' designs, that supposedly can be set for 100 t, 20 kt, or full yield)
still whe're speaking of something the weight of a penny, little boy (one of the first abombs weighted 4000kg that would give a blast of 1714269,63 Mt.

Oh yes... a penny is worth, a very lot.

still whe're speaking of something the weight of a penny, little boy (one of the first abombs weighted 4000kg that would give a blast of 1714269,63 Mt.

Little boy had a yield of something like 12-16 kt. Fission only converts a small percentage of the fissile mass into energy, plus the little boy design was 'not so good'. The gun assembly method was only used for the bomb on Hiroshima. There were parts for about five more but they were never assembled, the uranium was diverted to other designs.

still whe're speaking of something the weight of a penny, little boy (one of the first abombs weighted 4000kg that would give a blast of 1714269,63 Mt.
Although to be fair, not much of that was the mass of the uranium that powered the bomb. Almost all of it was the mass of the rest of the bomb - the casing, detonator, etc. Your penny of antimatter would probably need a lot of heavy equipment to store it and keep it from detonating.

Your penny of antimatter would probably need a lot of heavy equipment to store it and keep it from detonating.

I'm sure your right. Theirs no tech that could store such a large amount practicly and no tech that could produce it in the first place practicly

Antimatter is just electric-acids... There are many antimatters: "Nitrogen Electric Acid".. "Neon Electric Acid".. "Argon Electric Acid"... get the picture..?

Easy to make too.. all you need is a regulatable liquid electricity source... If I had use of a lab I'd build one...

Cosmic-

What?

If you can use antinitrogen and nitrogen in a collision the gamma rays being produced will provide the thrust.
You can use whatever antimatter you like, they all produce gamma rays.
Supergravity collector devices will condense and collect the gamma rays .Simply using buzzwords doesn't make you right. You might as well have said "Magic collector devices" because 'supergravity collectors' is nonsense. 'Supergravity' is a physics term but nothing to do with what you're talking about.
and provide them for the splitting of the electromagnetic energy using proton collisions to create miniature black holes and form positrons and electrons, recreating anti matter providing the thrust once again.At no point do you actually produce thrust there! You use antimatter to make antimatter. It's like burning hydrogen to make electricity to split water to make hydrogen. Conservation of energy says you get nothing out of it. Practical limitations say you waste energy!
as we have only been able to make positrons so far. (positive charged electrons) Making negativly charged Protons is a feat that not only is hard, but dangerous. What happens when it touches its container after all..Making any kind of antimatter is dangerous, antiprotons or antielectrons.

And we've made antiprotons. We've even controlled them enough to combine them with positrons to make antihydrogen.

cosmicbrat, you're completely wrong.

Can I just say, that you statement, ''There is no such thing as a miniature black hole,'' may not be completely true. In fact, electrons by Greene have been posited as special micro-black holes.

First of all, electrons are considered to be miniature black holes because of the distortion of the symetrical balance of electromagnetism hindering electromagnetic fields emiting what could be called miniature hawking radiation. thankyou reiku. and second of all, this is supposed to be a science fiction discussion mr. philosophy doctor.:shrug:

a science fiction discussion is independent of scientific postulates, theories, and laws. a science FICTION discussion.

It would have helped if you said that before you know. You just started up this whole thread, with little introduction, and stated something that sounded like you meant it as a fact.

besides. Why did you put this in with Chemistry anyways? this is physics!

Try to picture this.. Lets say for this argument, that you managed to crack light... And lets view light as particles... Damaged light particles, in this reaction, will instantly automatically bind (self-heal) with the nearest molecule, thereby synthesizing a very powerfully chemically active molecule, which would react extremely violently with any matter it came in contact with... This compound could be viewed as an "electric acid"...
Collect these new compounds, electric acids, in the midst of a series of magnetic sprays, and you've got an extremely powerful fuel cell...

Damaged light particles, segmented into bits and pieces, now incapable of bonding with matter molecules, will instantly decay into its half-life, being "liquid electricity"... LE in turn will evaporate very fast... Thus is the 17,000 pounds thrust from a single "plazma-engine", 14-inches long, by 4-inches in diameter...

Install four to six such engines to a sheet of strong plywood.. add computerized system's controls, cover the plywood with carpeting, and you now have a flying carpet that'll do 400-miles per hour... Add an aerodynamic shell, and you might get the thing to fly at 1200-mph...

Bathe, with regulatable liquid electricity, a pyrex manufacturer's lab assembly, containing sodium citrate and neon.. you will synth neon citrate, a compound which when ingested in barely visible quantity will cause the average human, or mammal, to instantly spontaneously orgasm in their pants, or down their leg, right where they stand, sit, or lay...

Do this manufacturer's assembly with every primary base and acid compound, and you will now have the means to synthesize approximately 700-million new chemical compounds, 200-million of which being immediately useful in todays world...

Mr. Flemming discovered that the urine of green penicillium mold, on oranges, inhibited infection... When he announced to the medical profession that infection was caused by tiny invisible bugs, the medical community laughed at Flemming's "ridiculous science fiction claims", and continued on with their "bleeding practices", and their tapping infectious wounds with filthy alcohol soaked turkey tail feathers dipped in bright colored rock powders to frighten away infection...

Look what happened to the poor-fellow who first claimed he had proof that the world is not flat...

Everything you cannot understand you label "crazy", only because you don't have the capacity to grasp anything the new.. same as they did to the great inventors...

Look what the apes did to the Wright brothers after they claimed they could build a flying machine...

Look what the apes did to Tesla's lab after he plugged a light-bulb into the ground, and it lit up... They trashed his lab...

Read what the apes said to Goddard after he claimed that his new liquid fueled rocket would one day have men walking on the moon...

Caution! that what you label "FICTION", just might be a brand new science...

I hold in my memory-rivers, 14 brand new sciences, each with its own 100+ untapped technologies... This liquid electricity emitter is technology 1 of 1400, science level 1 of 14... With technology 32 of 1400 I could engrave a poem on a lunar cliff face from here...

Technology 201 of 1400 is "alpha particle sampling"... It could make an electronic nuke, among many advancements...

Technology 301 of 1400 is the science of harnessing and processing raw momentum.. like the harnessing of the momentum of the melting and forming of the crystals in liquid water in motion...

Technology 401 of 1400, you don't even have one word in the English Language to begin to describe any of it... Processing thought on this level would be fatal to you...

Technology 1400 of 1400 is a Rush!..

Bottom line is: If this human race doesn't see it to provide me with a lab, soon, I will have taken all these new sciences and technologies to the grave...
I'm 60 now... I doubt I can maintain these memories much longer... It gets built in Canada, in a safe-lab, in the fresh granite new mountains between Calgary and Banff, or none of it gets built in my life time, nor in yours...

Your species doesn't have the capacity to grasp any of these new sciences, given that cellphones are baking brains, alcohol is dessicating brains, medicines, meth, and coke, abuses are melting brains, poor nutrition is devolving brains, high power hydro lines are collecting and concentrating cancer causing radon released by careless mining, TV provides humanity with its daily opinions and fears...
Humanity doesn't have the capacity to process thought in these areas, and never will...
30-years ago I attempted to relay the workings of a plazma engine to a visiting nuclear physicist... 60-seconds into the description his face went pale, he struggled to speak, he accused me of "speaking in the 4th-dimension", he barely managed to stand, he barely managed to walk three paces, he fell flat on his face...

The Problem is that religion gave its two greatest enemies, Science and Art, a roof and a home.. Now religion owns Science and Art... Religion believes that New and Change means that there wont be a place in the future for religion, so religion stifles all new and change... Religion has essentially put the brakes on evolution in defending itself from Truth and Reality...

Mr. Flemming discovered that the urine of green penicillium mold, on oranges, inhibited infection... When he announced to the medical profession that infection was caused by tiny invisible bugs, the medical community laughed at Flemming's "ridiculous science fiction claims", and continued on with their "bleeding practices", and their tapping infectious wounds with filthy alcohol soaked turkey tail feathers dipped in bright colored rock powders to frighten away infection...
No. Flemming discovered penicillin in 1928. Everyone by then knew that bacteria caused diseases. That had been proved (and accepted by everyone) way back in the 1800s, before Flemming was born.

Look what happened to the poor-fellow who first claimed he had proof that the world is not flat...
You mean Ptolemy? He proved that the world was round (and even calculated its size) back around the year 120. As for "what happened to him," he became very fameous and became a distinguished scholar at the Library of Alexandria. Were you supposing that something bad happened to him?

Everything you cannot understand you label "crazy", only because you don't have the capacity to grasp anything the new.. same as they did to the great inventors...
The mating call of the crackpot.

Cosmicbrat- I can imagine anything I like, up to and including your computer spontaneously combusting.
That does not mean it will happen, or is even possible...

Why fantasise about splitting light?

antimatter comes from the understanding that there is unseen mass in some galaxies (some galaxies experience more gravitational pull than the mass that is visible).

Physicists have formed postulates about antimatter and tried to observe it on earth. There was a topic on science about this.

From what I know, antimatter has not been proven and remains only in our imaginations.

Personally, I think we're stretching out our fundamental theories too far in predicting properties of something that we don't know exists yet :P

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antimatter comes from the understanding that there is unseen mass in some galaxies (some galaxies experience more gravitational pull than the mass that is visible).

Physicists have formed postulates about antimatter and tried to observe it on earth. There was a topic on science about this.

From what I know, antimatter has not been proven and remains only in our imaginations.

Personally, I think we're stretching out our fundamental theories too far in predicting properties of something that we don't know exists yet :P

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I think you're confusing dark matter with antimatter.

I'm talking new technologies... You are talking antique speculation...

You quote only from old books, written by those who didn't have a clue about reality...

Antimatter is electric-acids... There's an antimatter for every element...

Light can be cracked, to decaying into liquid electricity even if it's not in your obsolete school books... Seems you all can't grasp anything new...

I'm talking new technologies... You are talking antique speculation...

You quote only from old books, written by those who didn't have a clue about reality...

Antimatter is electric-acids... There's an antimatter for every element...

Light can be cracked, to decaying into liquid electricity even if it's not in your obsolete school books... Seems you all can't grasp anything new...

:m::shrug:

I'm talking new technologies... You are talking antique speculation...

You quote only from old books, written by those who didn't have a clue about reality...

Antimatter is electric-acids... There's an antimatter for every element...

Light can be cracked, to decaying into liquid electricity even if it's not in your obsolete school books... Seems you all can't grasp anything new...
It seems your fantasising. Have you tried stopping the drugs for a few days and seeing what happens?

Even better- have you tried building something using your speculations as base? If you can build your own anti-gravity drive, we'll all be instantly converted to your way of thinking.

Seems everything to new for you to fathom, you label fantacizing", and/or "is presented by those high-on cerebral enhancement herbals"...

Contrary to your belief structure, there are those of us who can process new thought without cerebral enhancing particulars...

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I don't want you to be converted to my thought processing... You would serious damage yourself if you attempted to process thought on these levels...

I have tried three-times to build this engine on a basement workbench, with basic tools... I was near completion of a crude prototype, when one evening pops failed to heed my warnings to not touch what is on the bench... He shone a penlight into the barrel of the engine core, a gold liquidish light blasted two holes clean through the back of his eye... I was forced to shelf the project 28-years ago because of safety concerns... It requires a safe-lab to be developed in, or I take it to the grave, and the only flying cars you will be piloting will be the ones on your dreams and in your interactive-cartoon video-games...

I have tried three-times to build this engine on a basement workbench, with basic tools... I was near completion of a crude prototype, when one evening pops failed to heed my warnings to not touch what is on the bench... He shone a penlight into the barrel of the engine core, a gold liquidish light blasted two holes clean through the back of his eye... I was forced to shelf the project 28-years ago because of safety concerns... It requires a safe-lab to be developed in, or I take it to the grave, and the only flying cars you will be piloting will be the ones on your dreams and in your interactive-cartoon video-games...
Okay, now I think it's safe to say that you are either a lying prankster or really, deeply insane. Personally I'm betting on the former, but I guess you never know.

Contrary to your belief structure, there are those of us who can process new thought without cerebral enhancing particulars...

No, really? Unfortunately, you aren't talking about yourself here...



I don't want you to be converted to my thought processing... You would serious damage yourself if you attempted to process thought on these levels...

Only someone who is trying it on or who has genuinely fallen for new age woooo talks like that. Which one are you? Have you had a phsychiatric assessment lately?



I have tried three-times to build this engine on a basement workbench, with basic tools... I was near completion of a crude prototype, when one evening pops failed to heed my warnings to not touch what is on the bench... He shone a penlight into the barrel of the engine core, a gold liquidish light blasted two holes clean through the back of his eye... I was forced to shelf the project 28-years ago because of safety concerns... It requires a safe-lab to be developed in, or I take it to the grave, and the only flying cars you will be piloting will be the ones on your dreams and in your interactive-cartoon video-games...

aye, right.
Numpty.

Anti-matter. Interesting.

The only serious work going on that I'm familiar with is AIMstar. A very small quantity of anti-protons are used as a clean trigger for a fission detonation. I'd post a picture but I don't have enough posts yet. It would be an extremely advanced starship much more powerful than existing engines but nothing on the order of matter anti-matter annihilation on a grand scale.

Okay, now I think it's safe to say that you are either a lying prankster or really, deeply insane. Personally I'm betting on the former, but I guess you never know.



Correction, It is you who are "really deeply insane"...
I have a new engine, which happens to obsolete fire as a power source... You can't even Begin to grasp it because it's too much new to you.. so you call me crazy because you can't process thought on these levels... As far as your belief structure rests, everything beyond your grasp is considered to be insane... That's insane... Your whole reality is merely just a little-part of what's in a handful of obsolete books...

So.. who is this "nasor guy", who feels he has the right to piss in my face, just because he doesn't know this new science..?

Are you a devout faithful Christian by any chance..?

What does Science mean to you..?

If you can build your own anti-gravity drive, we'll all be instantly converted to your way of thinking.


Sorry!.. I can't build an "anti-gravity drive"... I haven't a clue what it is...

I can build a liquid electricity jet, which calculates to pump out about 20-thou pounds of thrust from a small engine 14-inches long, by 4-inches diameter... This is just liquid electricity evaporating that makes the thrust... but not half as interesting as your "anti-gravity" thing... How does it work?.. What's its fuel..?
What is that "anti-gravity" stuff?.. Is it a chemical? A machine? A force? A fantasy?.. My silly toy is only based on evaporation... What's your antimatter thing based upon?..

Anti-matter. Interesting.

The only serious work going on that I'm familiar with is AIMstar. A very small quantity of anti-protons are used as a clean trigger for a fission detonation. I'd post a picture but I don't have enough posts yet. It would be an extremely advanced starship much more powerful than existing engines but nothing on the order of matter anti-matter annihilation on a grand scale.



More and more it's looking like "antimatter" is actually only an extremely powerful catalyst... And it seems there would be at east one genus of antimatter per element.. but it's likely that some reactions, elementals with liquid electricity, would be extremely unstable, and extremely explosive.. plus there is calculation, that uncontrolled electric acids might event in secondary and triatary series detonations, depending upon conditions, and presence of pollutants, in initial formation reactions... In that, I doubt it's fission, but more like the inverse of fission...

Quoting: "Only someone who is trying it on or who has genuinely fallen for new age woooo talks like that. Which one are you? Have you had a phsychiatric assessment lately?"


Yes I did.. as part of a job application... The Shrink, an interesting intelligent old man, told me I am more sane than he, and asked me to help him diagnose his unsolvable cases.. and asks me to return when ever I am able, and in the big-city.. to share my advice with him...
I am writing a manual on the philosophy of psychiatry.. called "BlueBase Eternity"...
Come zit on zee nice comfy leather couch, undt vee finds out vhy you hated der mummy, undt vee try to fix you up goot as new...

Forceman

Yeh, but these holes are extremal. That means they do not electroradiate away any energy. What i would like to ask is if the electron is a black hole, wouldn't we notice visible temperatures that are very high?

Black Holes have no upper limit. They can be as big as nature wishes. But the smallest black hole must be in accordance with the Planck Mass given as:
(hc/2piG)1/2
Where h is Planck's Constant, c is the speed of light and G is the Gravitational Constant. Mini black holes seem to be the best chance for scientists. There is simply no way we could create a minimum sized hole with a mass of about 22 micrograms because we would need about 10^{16} TeV just to produce it, which is many magnitudes higher than we can produce today. A mini black hole would have a radius of about 2 x 10^{-19}m – very small – with a very large temperature of 1.5 x 10^{14}K, or about 25 billion times hotter than the Sun!

OK, Then what would the residual result be, from fragmented light units having decayed into liquid electricity, which evaporated in air..?