View Full Version : Another sign of the coming fascist dictatorship


jandt
12-07-02, 12:38 PM
Like your new stamps??


http://www.thememoryhole.org/eagle-stamp.htm

Adam
12-07-02, 01:39 PM
Scary scary. :eek:

Mr. G
12-07-02, 03:02 PM
So, thinking as you two do, you'll also have to say that Buddha (http://www.prometheus-imports.com/buddhaBULB01.gif) is/was a Nazi/fascist???

:rolleyes:

Adam
12-07-02, 03:12 PM
***

That cross symbol has always been a sun and good luck symbol, and also represents the turning of the seasons and time. It was used by the NAZIs, but never represented specifically those ideals.

The eagle banner has represented "empire" for more than 2,000 years. The eagle banner was used by Rome and by NAZI Germany to represent thei soaring ambitions of empire and supposedly noble purpose. First Rome, then NAZI Germany, now the USA.

It is the common thread of the desire for such empire that is scary, and that is what the symbol represents in this thread and in the examples shown.

The cross, however, only spoke for what you might call "evil" for a few years; for the rest of its history, it has been quite a positive symbol.


* Moderator edit - insulting other members is unnecessary

NightFall
12-07-02, 03:18 PM
-dumb american in the back with a question-

umm... wats so scary about it? its an eagle. everything is a flippin eagle.. they're ugly little birds but they're on everything already... what is so wrong with the stamp? i mean.. those are optional... (in fact, mine are snowmen stamps) what you REALLY aughta be worried about is those quarters!! with eagles on all of 'em!! and to think.. for the last 50 years... no one has even noticed.. 0shakes head-:rolleyes:

Captain_Crunch
12-07-02, 03:20 PM
Wow, buddha was a nazi? Just when i thought the world was a safe place.. :rolleyes:

Mr. G
12-07-02, 03:24 PM
Adam:

Then you already understand why the insinuation that a postage stamp is certain evidence for jack-booted American Empire is really idiotic.

Where do you guys come up with all this stuff? At your secret meetings?

Adam
12-07-02, 03:36 PM
Now, I've already given you a quick history lesson. Now you tell me precisely why it is idiotic to see a link between Rome, NAZI Germany, and the USA through that eagel banner. Please do.

jandt
12-07-02, 03:47 PM
Goofball is it?

Geopolitically confused maybe?

The parallels between the latter days of the Roman empire and amerika today are frightening to say the least.

The innercities decay as the empire is expanded to the point where it all falls down...........

Mr. G
12-07-02, 03:48 PM
It's not idiotic to see such a connection, it is idiotic to purport that that 'connection' is the only possible reason for that symbol's stylization.

Adam
12-07-02, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by Mr. G
It's not idiotic to see such a connection, it is idiotic to purport that that 'connection' is the only possible reason for that symbol's stylization.
Did anyone do that?

A link for the curious:
http://www.electronicorphanage.com/negri/empire.htm

Mr. G
12-07-02, 03:52 PM
Jandt:

Still flapping those arms?

Mr. G
12-07-02, 03:53 PM
Jandt did, as did whomever created that linked visual.

Adam
12-07-02, 03:57 PM
Jandt did not say that. I do not see that in his posts at all.

Are you sure you're not really BradRules (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13828)?

Mr. G
12-07-02, 04:05 PM
Yawn....

Adam:

"Another sign of the coming fascist dictatorship" --jandt

"US Naziesque...." --from the link.


US Naziesque = fascist dictatorship = US --you two

:rolleyes:

Adam
12-07-02, 04:09 PM
Yes, in reference to a webpage, and in drawing very obvious comparisons. However, he did not say what you claimed.

Mr. G
12-07-02, 04:12 PM
Adam:

Parse it however you like.

Adam
12-07-02, 04:19 PM
Amazing. Once again, Mr G has bitched and moaned through a thread without posting any facts, relevent statements, or logical discussion.

Mr. G
12-07-02, 04:36 PM
Adam:

You two hunks of male pulchritude are too funny: opposing opinion and rationale is "irrelevent bitching and moaning."

:rolleyes:

Maia
12-07-02, 05:12 PM
Bah, jealousies over the most powerful nation of the face of the earth...you and what army??

jandt
12-07-02, 05:51 PM
I am so freakin jealous of you.

I am jealous because:

-my kids won't go and die for oil
-my country is not 5 trillion dollars in debt
-we didn't give Israel 4 billion dollars this year and they like you more than us
-we are not hated world wide for trying to control the governments every other country in the world, both overtly and covertly
-i don't pay for healthcare

finally, the biggest reason i am so jealous is that my country doesn't have a secret government intent on taking all of my rights and installing a fascist dictatorship........


Yup, I am sooooooooo jealous I am not ameriKan

Maia
12-07-02, 05:56 PM
Ah, about the debt part. I hope you studied your econ. Debt used to fund capital investment is good debt.

And there there, I'm so sorry you're jealous. But there's nothing we can do, is there? Dearest? :(

Mr. G
12-07-02, 11:27 PM
....my country is not 5 trillion dollars in debt....
Your country has never even had 5 Trillion Dollars. Not even in Canadian Dollars.

:D

Nasor
12-07-02, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by jandt

Yup, I am sooooooooo jealous I am not ameriKan Why do you spell america with a 'k'? Is it some sort of witty jibe? If so, I don't understand it.

Mr. G
12-07-02, 11:59 PM
It's an insult. At least, it's supposed to be an insult. It really just an inconsequential spent wad. ;)

CounslerCoffee
12-08-02, 12:38 AM
Hmm. Jandt you seem contempt on calling america a facist state every chance you get.... Let me guess, your a Upper Class white male in your mid 20s?

I once read in a magazine about how the swastika came around. I just did a quick search on it. Now about the Nazi symbol:

The right-handed Swastika is associated with the goddess Kali-Maya (the mother of Buddha, normally associated with the Moon)

The left-handed Swastika is associated with Ganesha (elephant-headed God, associated with the Sun)

Interesting how the symbol is not evil at all. If you want an evil symbol, something foul, and awful... Then look at Adam's avatar.
:D

jandt
12-08-02, 10:37 PM
here is some real economic fact and theory for you to ponder



http://www.worldnewsstand.net/today/articles/fedprivatelyowned.htm

YoungWriter
12-10-02, 04:21 PM
i don't pay for healthcare

In the USA, it is paid privately. In Canada and many other nations, it is paid for via taxes.

CC: Let me guess, your a Upper Class white male in your mid 20s?

He owns a business, and he is something like 37.

Clockwood
12-11-02, 02:59 PM
America? Facist? HOHOHOHAHAHAAHAHAHEEHEEHEHEHEE!!!!

Yeah right. Our government can barely control a citizen if it tried without public approval. The media is always saying what the government dosnt want anyone to hear, political factions keep the politiciens from unifying one rule, and there would be chaos if a politicien tried to cancel an election.

jps
12-11-02, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Clockwood
America? Facist? HOHOHOHAHAHAAHAHAHEEHEEHEHEHEE!!!!

Yeah right. Our government can barely control a citizen if it tried without public approval. The media is always saying what the government dosnt want anyone to hear, political factions keep the politiciens from unifying one rule, and there would be chaos if a politicien tried to cancel an election.

There would be chaos today if they tried to cancel elections.
Not too long ago there would have been chaos if a politician seized an office in the manner that our current president did.
No, the United States is not facist. Its got a long way to go before it can be appropriately called facist, but it is definitely headed in that direction.

Clockwood
12-11-02, 09:59 PM
There very nearly WAS chaos after the last election.

Illuminatus
12-12-02, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by jandt
Like your new stamps??


http://www.thememoryhole.org/eagle-stamp.htm


Uhh yea, solid design, good use of colors. Missing swastika.