Since so many people seemed confused about how to vote in the other poll I started trying to gauge where sciforums members sit on the political compass, here's another similar test, which I hope will be less confusing:

Instructions:

1. Go to http://www.moral-politics.com.
2. Take the Long test.
3. When you get your results, answer the poll, look under Matches, and answer the poll according to what is listed next to Ideologies.

For interest, here is a map of all the different political idologies:

Ideology map (http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.aspx?menu=Political_Ideologies&action=Draw&choice=PoliticalIdeologies.All)

If you like, also post your Variation.

My results: Social Democratism, Moderate Socialism.

Came up with pretty much similar, however my variation was different:
Social Democratism, Economic Socialism

I did it! I was -6.5 on Moral Order axis
7 on Moral Rules axis

System: Socialism
Variation:Extreme Socialism

Ideologies: International Socialism. Activism. International Communism

2% of participants scored Left of me.

Interesting and a more revealing test I think than the first.

Viva Partido Comunista!

My Results:

Your Score

Your scored -3 on the Moral Order axis and 1 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Moderate Socialism
3. Ideologies: Social Democratism

Now these results are absolutely perfect for me:

Your scored 0 on the Moral Order axis and -1.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Conservatism, Liberalism
2. Variation: Moderate Conservatism, Moderate Liberalism
3. Ideologies: Capital Republicanism, Capital Democratism


Lean neither to the left nor right but lean slightly down towards capitalism vs socialism.

- N

Here's what I got:

System: Socialism
Variation: Extreme Socialism
Ideologies: International Socialism

http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.aspx?menu=Home&action=Test&choice=Long

Your Score

Your scored -2 on the Moral Order axis and 0.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Moderate Socialism
3. Ideologies: Social Democratism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (90.89%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (88.10%), Ralph Nader (82.18%), George W. Bush (60.66%)

Statistics

Of the 232922 people who took the test:

1. 1.6% had the same score as you.
2. 36.2% were above you on the chart.
3. 52.2% were below you on the chart.
4. 48.4% were to your right on the chart.
5. 30.7% were to your left on the chart.


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Lame.
I don't believe that Sam is so close to me on the 'moral map'.
The test is flawed.

They didn't even ask if I thought if Moloch worship should be resurrected and that children should be tossed into the fire.
I mean, come on.
Seriously.

Now these results are absolutely perfect for me:




Lean neither to the left nor right but lean slightly down towards capitalism vs socialism.

- NI need Kleenex. :(

Not perfectly accurate. I don't give that much importance to moral rules.

Here's what I got:

System: Socialism
Variation: Extreme Socialism
Ideologies: International Socialism

http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.aspx?menu=Home&action=Test&choice=Long2 Thumbs Up! Or I mean right fist raised!!

So, Truthseeker, didn't understand how the poll works, eh? I see you chose your ideology rather than the one that the test provided for you.
It's pretty difficult reading opening posts before firing your guns, eh?
I guess you really don't give that much importance to moral rules... or any rules?

Not perfectly accurate. I don't give that much importance to moral rules.

Truthie, did you vote correctly?

No wonder I love Buddhism...
http://www.moral-politics.com/xPolitics.aspx?menu=Political_Maps&action=Draw&choice=PoliticalMaps.Religions

Your Score
Your scored 0.5 on the Moral Order axis and -4 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches
The following items best match your score:
System: Conservatism
Variation: Moderate Conservatism, Economic Conservatism
Ideologies: Capital Republicanism
US Parties: Republican Party, Democratic Party
Presidents: Gerald Ford (95.06%)
2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (82.18%), George W. Bush (79.63%), Ralph Nader (63.76%)
Statistics
Of the 232931 people who took the test:
1% had the same score as you.
74.7% were above you on the chart.
20.4% were below you on the chart.
28.4% were to your right on the chart.
59.7% were to your left on the chart.



I got essentially the same position on the chart as the last test;
towards the bottom and about dead center.

2 Thumbs Up! Or I mean right fist raised!!
Yeah man! Right on, commarade!! :D

:m:

I clicked on all the poll options on the poll at top but only one shows: Activism. What's up with that?

So, Truthseeker, didn't understand how the poll works, eh? I see you chose your ideology rather than the one that the test provided for you.
It's pretty difficult reading opening posts before firing your guns, eh?
I guess you really don't give that much importance to moral rules... or any rules?
Yeah... I don't agree that much with rules and regulations...

Yeah man! Right on, commarade!! :D

:m:Death to US Imperialist Warpigs!!

Truthie, did you vote correctly?
I would think so...

Btw, according to the test, you are more compatible with Buddhism.... :eek:

Check it out...
http://www.moral-politics.com/xPolitics.aspx?menu=Political_Maps&action=Draw&choice=PoliticalMaps.Religions

Yeah... I don't agree that much with rules and regulations...

You mean you don't agree with rules and regulations that hinder you, but agree with rules and regulations that help you out.
Typical. :rolleyes:

I would think so...

Uhm..
No. You actually voted incorrectly. Which is the point I made earlier as well.
Oh well.
It's ok, little Truthy, we all know this is a lot for you to take in at one time. Maybe in a couple of years your brain will mature to the point where you can understand such things. You have shown considerable improvement already in your time here. We can only hope that someday you can reach the level of average human intellect.
We're all rooting for you.

Check it out...
http://www.moral-politics.com/xPoli...lMaps.Religions

That's even lamer than the test. There's not even a space for Moloch worship. What gives?

I believe Judaism would be the closest to Moloch worship. I hear they bake Christian babies into their matzah :eek:

I would think so...

Btw, according to the test, you are more compatible with Buddhism.... :eek:

Check it out...
http://www.moral-politics.com/xPolitics.aspx?menu=Political_Maps&action=Draw&choice=PoliticalMaps.Religions

Haha I doubt many posters on this forum with agree with you!

You mean you don't agree with rules and regulations that hinder you, but agree with rules and regulations that help you out.
Typical. :rolleyes:
That's not what I said....

Oops, I just noticed I messed up my vote, d'oh!

It's alright, I guess since I don't see my option on the list. Where's independant capitalist?

- N

But that's what you meant.

Haha I doubt many posters on this forum with agree with you!
I didn't say it. They did! ;)

Haha I doubt many posters on this forum with agree with you!

Actually, I think you should have a bodhi tree named after you. You're surely patient enough to be a buddhist.

But, again, Truthseeker seems to not comprehend something vital.
Your place on that map would place you at the edge of protestantism. Not in Buddhism.

Ain't he special though? We should all chip in and get him a bicycle helmet for Christmas.


I believe Judaism would be the closest to Moloch worship. I hear they bake Christian babies into their matzah

Mmmm.
Christian babies....

But what about blood orgies?

There's not even a space for Moloch worship. What gives?
And what did you say about me? :rolleyes:

But what about blood orgies?

Oh, you'll be wanting Catholicism, then.

What's your problem? You got a problem with sacrificing children in the fires of the cow god?
Blasphemer!

Your Score
Your [sic] scored -4.5 on the Moral Order axis and 6.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

The following items best match your score:
System: Socialism
Variation: Extreme Socialism
Ideologies: International Socialism
US Parties: No match. :rolleyes:
Presidents: Jimmy Carter (71.19%) :confused:
2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (74.81%), John Kerry (61.85%), George W. Bush (34.08%) :confused:

Statistics
Of the 232938 people who took the test:

0.2% had the same score as you.
1.2% were above you on the chart.
93.4% were below you on the chart.
77.3% were to your right on the chart.
16% were to your left on the chart.

Suck on that.. cursed, reactionary dogs..

Your Score
Your [sic] scored -4.5 on the Moral Order axis and 6.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

The following items best match your score:
System: Socialism
Variation: Extreme Socialism
Ideologies: International Socialism
US Parties: No match. :rolleyes:
Presidents: Jimmy Carter (71.19%) :confused:
2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (74.81%), John Kerry (61.85%), George W. Bush (34.08%) :confused:

Statistics
Of the 232938 people who took the test:

0.2% had the same score as you.
1.2% were above you on the chart.
93.4% were below you on the chart.
77.3% were to your right on the chart.
16% were to your left on the chart.

Suck on that.. cursed, reactionary dogs..LONG LIVE RED ARMY 11!!

I've always been a fan of Father Dagon and Mother Hydra, but I guess that's because I'm a Pisces.

redarmy11:

You're an international socialist???

I've always been a fan of Father Dagon and Mother Hydra, but I guess that's because I'm a Pisces.Leo Rules. :D

You two suck!

Long live to Buddhists!! :D

:eek:

I was talking with Roman and invert...

You two suck!

Long live to Buddhists!! :DThat doesn't sound very Leftist to me. Don't flame out already!

:eek:

I was talking with Roman and invert...Oh. Now I feel better. Nevermind.

That doesn't sound very Leftist to me. Don't flame out already!
It's called "sarcasm" and "irony"... ;)

It's called "sarcasm" and "irony"... ;)Both are banned in the People's Republic of Genji so out of unfamiliarity I took it seriously.

redarmy11:

You're an international socialist???
Hmm..

A few years ago I was so sure about these things.

Do I think capitalism is wonderful? No.

Would I like to see capitalism replaced by something more equitable? Yes.

Do I think it will happen? No - and certainly not until we have the political means to control the excesses of international corporations. Logically, that means the system must have freedom to operate across national borders, just as the corporations do. Does that make sense?

But don't ask me what I am and what I'm not, as I'm not entirely sure any more.

Your Score

Your scored -3 on the Moral Order axis and -2.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Liberalism
2. Variation: Moderate Liberalism
3. Ideologies: Capital Democratism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party
5. Presidents: Bill Clinton (95.58%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (97.79%), Ralph Nader (79.63%), George W. Bush (62.96%)

Your Score

Your scored -3 on the Moral Order axis and -2.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Liberalism
2. Variation: Moderate Liberalism
3. Ideologies: Capital Democratism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party
5. Presidents: Bill Clinton (95.58%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (97.79%), Ralph Nader (79.63%), George W. Bush (62.96%)Hmmm....We can rebuild you. We can re-educate you. Join me on the Red Side.

System: Liberalism
Variation: Economic Liberalism
Ideologies: Progressive NeoLiberalism
US Parties: No match.
Presidents: Bill Clinton (85.18%)
2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (79.04%), George W. Bush (70.52%), Ralph Nader (61.35%)

(:eek: Man, it sure sucks at picking your favorite presidential candidates.)

I cannot take this test. I tried it. Got to question 8 and I mostly could not find an answer that fits my political ideas.

I had the same thing somewhat in the other test but then I could always just say agree or disagree although in reality the whole question was fake and pointless.

I think i am too radical for this world.

Ah but Spurious the systems of Politics is about "Compromising"... especially when you realise that you don't actually have any real choices when it comes to voting, they made them for you by only supplying 2-3 candidates :)

Spurious' from a weird country where they have more than two parties. What sort of decadence is that? :confused:

I didn't like the test. I was often saying 'Yes' to more than one option:


Your Score

Your scored 0 on the Moral Order axis and 2.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

System: Socialism, Authoritarianism
Variation: Moderate Socialism, Moderate Authoritarianism
Ideologies: Social Democratism, Social Republicanism
US Parties: No match.
Presidents: Jimmy Carter (79.15%)
2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (76.10%), Ralph Nader (72.67%), George W. Bush (60.16%)

Here's my score:

Your scored 5.5 on the Moral Order axis and -7 on the Moral Rules axis.


The following items best match your score:

1. System: Conservatism
2. Variation: Extreme Conservatism
3. Ideologies: PaleoConservatism, Ultra Capitalism, Conservative NeoLiberalism
4. US Parties: Republican Party
5. Presidents: George W. Bush (90.89%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (90.89%), John Kerry (56.42%), Ralph Nader (38.09%)

Of the 232969 people who took the test:

1. 0.2% had the same score as you.
2. 95.7% were above you on the chart.
3. 1.3% were below you on the chart.
4. 6.9% were to your right on the chart.
5. 91.5% were to your left on the chart. :D
I did it! I was -6.5 on Moral Order axis and 7 on Moral Rules axis

System: Socialism
Variation:Extreme Socialism
2% of participants scored Left of me.

I think we are so far opposite we might back into each other!
Looks like you were right

Took it again and got Moderate Conservatism.

It seems the test has too fine of grades with too few data points.



Your Score
Your scored 0.5 on the Moral Order axis and -3 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches
The following items best match your score:
System: Conservatism
Variation: Moderate Conservatism
Ideologies: Capital Republicanism
US Parties: Republican Party, Democratic Party
Presidents: Gerald Ford (97.79%)
2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (83.91%), George W. Bush (78.24%), Ralph Nader (66.27%)
Statistics
Of the 232976 people who took the test:
1.1% had the same score as you.
69.4% were above you on the chart.
25.2% were below you on the chart.
28.4% were to your right on the chart.
59.7% were to your left on the chart.

Ah but Spurious the systems of Politics is about "Compromising"... especially when you realise that you don't actually have any real choices when it comes to voting, they made them for you by only supplying 2-3 candidates :)
:( My thoughts exactly... the big boys get to play center stage while everyone else's ideas are tossed by the wayside.

System: Socialism
Variation: Moral Socialism
Ideologies: Social Democratism, Activism
US Parties: No match.


Anyway I'm apolitical, I think each problem needs an individual solution, and in a particular case a socialistic, nationalistic, liberal, anarchistic or some other kind of a solution could be best.

Ah but Spurious the systems of Politics is about "Compromising"... especially when you realise that you don't actually have any real choices when it comes to voting, they made them for you by only supplying 2-3 candidates :)

That's why I do not vote.

I sometimes vote when there's a danger of total loonies getting voted in, i.e., vote for the least moronic ones to prevent the biggest morons getting the wheel.

I just switch countries.

Captial Republicanism AND Captial Democratism. I am a "perfect Centrist". Zero on the Moral Order axis and -1.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Hey leo

i have scored the same as you, great stuff

i am

Your Score

Your scored 0 on the Moral Order axis and 2 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

System: Socialism, Authoritarianism
Variation: Moderate Socialism, Moderate Authoritarianism
Ideologies: Social Democratism, Social Republicanism
US Parties: No match.
Presidents: Jimmy Carter (80.24%)
2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (77.90%), Ralph Nader (73.12%), George W. Bush (61.98%)
Statistics

Of the 233002 people who took the test:

0.6% had the same score as you.
16.7% were above you on the chart.
70.9% were below you on the chart.
28.4% were to your right on the chart.
59.7% were to your left on the chart.
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does this mean i have a 61.98% with the Bush man

amazing stuff!!!!!

i never posted my moral scores but here they are:
moral order 2, moral rules 3.5
social republican.

can't remember the rest.

oh yeah, it also said 0.1% scored the same as me

I sometimes vote when there's a danger of total loonies getting voted in, i.e., vote for the least moronic ones to prevent the biggest morons getting the wheel.
Too bad doesn't always work, eh? :D

Social Democratism

(-1, 3) Social Democratism. Some of the questions had more than one good answer, so I tried to balance out which ones I gave preference to...

Captial Republicanism AND Captial Democratism. I am a "perfect Centrist". Zero on the Moral Order axis and -1.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Hey, exact same score as me, heh!

Too bad we're so centrist that there's no option available to us in this poll. ;)

- N