Another SARS? PRRS Pig Flu Emerging in China

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by valich, May 14, 2007.

  1. valich Registered Senior Member

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    When this first emerged last month, farmers quickly sold off their livestock as soon as possible. No doubt some of the infected pigs have already made it into the human food supply. The infected pigs develop lesions, then hemorrhage, then die. In this article you can see how farmers just dump the infected pigs in a local river. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18597469/site/newsweek/
     
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  3. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not sure what to think. Part of me just groans, "Ah, f@ck! Here we go again." And that's the part that wonders if humans are ever, as a society, going to figure out a few things about how to relate to the rest of nature. There's another part, though, that reminds me that things in nature are always getting sick, and if we're seeing more of it now, how much of that is simply because we're actually looking for it?

    Err ... or something. That sentence is a hemorrhaging lesion. I ain't touchin' it again, though, lest it die.
     
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  5. phonetic stroking my banjo Registered Senior Member

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    What the fuck is going on in Asia that creates all of these things. That's what I want to know.

    I've took the bait the media offered for mad cow disease, sars, bird flu and all the other shit. I'm past caring. If it becomes enough of a problem to affect me then I'll stand up and take notice, or hug my knees and start crying. Until then, why bother wasting energy on it?
     
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  7. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    And stack that up beside the bad news about the bees, the fish, and the frogs, (unknown cause, bleeding disease, and fungal infection respectively), and I'm suddenly not nearly as worried about global warming. Not that it's any less important, but I'm starting to get the feeling, as I said in a different topic, that humanity may well be on notice.

    Which reminds me to reiterate, "Ah, f@ck! Here we go again."
     
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  8. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    They figured out that part long, long ago. It's because it's common practice in much of Asia to raise pigs and fowl (ducks, chicken) together. That creates a perfect environment for viruses to mutate and move between different types of animals. (Pigs are much closer to humans biologically than birds are.)


    And because of that, the CDC sends teams to Asia every single year to detect and locate the viruses that have made to jump to infecting humans and then decide which of those are most likely to spread globally. That's exactly how they determine which vaccine to produce for the next flu season.
     
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    ... and then there were none
    & then there was SAR'S CoV-2
    & african swine flu
    & bird flu
    CDC zombie apocalypse advice & decades of modelling by scientists
    all quickly dumped by the previous administration

    & here we are ...
    those lucky enough to be still alive
     
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  10. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    This thread is 14 years old.
     
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  11. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    I have heard that pig physiology is surprisingly similar to us humans so...... in your opinion is this variation quite likely something that some humans may catch?
     
  12. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    Damn necromancers...
     
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  13. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    No wonder I usually stay over in the Parapsychology forum Eh?
     
  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    have you done some basic reading on African swine Flu ?
    its REALLY BAD !

    has around a 75% kill rate over roughly 2 weeks
    the infection rate is shocking also something like 60 to 80 % of pig populations wil catch it
    to piggery's with e.g 1000 pigs will get 400 pigs die in 2 weeks
    almost 100% total infection & probably lose half the remaining herd & left with very sick pigs some of which may not recover or are too costly to treat.

    i have eaten a lot of pork, i know how to cook it in many different forms
    but i do not eat it any longer & have not eaten it for many years
    i do not eat it for dietary belief reasons(i believe the human body functions at a much higher rate by not eating red meat most of the time)
    i also prefer not to kill mammals & marsupials unless i really have to & food is completely 100% optional & so i do not need to kill living animals to survive in a very good level of human nutrition
    i am lucky enough to be able to afford to buy or obtain any type of food i want & i can cook(unlike the vast majority of American males[disgraceful])

    but if it was me or the pig
    the pig gets it & i would be gutting it & cleaning it and chopping it up & cooking it & eating it

    stopping Asia from eating pigs is like stopping USA from cattle ranching & growing corn
    good luck


    NOTE
    there is 2 different swine flu period outbreaks
    the 1st recorded primary global event in 2008

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_pandemic

    and the current new wide spread sudden outbreak around 2017 to 2018 which saw swine flu run through Asia forcing millions of pigs to be killed
    wiping out roughly 45% of the entire worlds pig population in 18 months
     
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  15. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    Wow!!!!

    What do you think of this sentence?


    "The difference between Ebola and influenza is that inflammatory response" (Dr. Joseph Ahrens after the 5:50 mark in this video:





    An Interview with 2015 Nobel Prize Nominee Dr Joe Ahrens

    You guessed it..... I am thinking that that particular statement is relevant to more viruses than merely influenza and Ebola!
     
  16. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    1.


    RNA polymerase

    but you've also got to stop the inflammatory response
    the difference between Ebola & influenza is that inflammatory response
    so IF you Do get some invasion
    replication
    & then leaving the body
    you get that inflammatory response
    you've gotta stop that because that's
    LIKE the difference between influenza & Ebola


    what you think he may be saying
    may not be what he really is saying & meaning

    he is not only simplifying his language terms & words, but also breaking it down to allow for English as a limited second language


    you will need to be more specific with your question regarding what you think you are saying and thus asking


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    stopping an immune process that causes chronic & fatal outcomes is a dominant theme in most forms of medicine
    its not church choir stuff
    its science
    there is a vast amount of background knowledge required

    interrupting a part of the process can make a big difference
    like i commented on some weeks back
    you could potentially
    jack people up on cocaine to help prevent death

    but eventually the partial interruption(cocaine) may become a larger problem than an alternate partial long term mediation


    you could run about south America like the Easter bunny handing out free Meldonium & cocaine & it would save lives
    you could do the same for india

    send me some free trial packs please


    interesting how he talks about dengue
    you see how poverty in South America ends up creating dengue in Florida & Texas
    also nile river virus


    to the casual reader ...
    you want me to make some type of personal comment about him ?
    im not going to
    so you can shove that where the sun don't shine

    Joseph goes on to mention

    "but you actually dont melt"
    you would need to do some personal research to understand what he is talking about specifically around hemorrhagic fever


    "never the less its identical in its severity"

    what is the church choir listening for ?
    the dumb sheep words that dont have any real science meaning
    that are repeated over and over ?

    he explains at the start of the interview he is a USA biological weapons consultant contractor
    with years of industry experience & works in level 4 often


    so i should mind your manners if i were you
    mess with these people and you get real dead real fast
    & depending on which country he is currently assisting at the time you mess with him
    may mean the difference between your entire family(& likely all your friends or business associates involved) being taken out by someone
    just to make a point
     
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  17. arfa brane call me arf Valued Senior Member

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    I predict a future in which biotech companies get extremely wealthy.
     
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  18. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    you confuse me
    there is a biotech company that is not extremely wealthy ?

    a real risk of tin pot capitalist dictators setting up their own non scientific profit formed biotech to steal government tax money which is intended for the real biotech producers of medicine.


    usa & australia are set to make a lot of money from clean safe pig production for the asian market

    but their right wing politicians may not be able to control their own greed & corruption and then allow african swine flu to take hold

    the ability to allow china to invest in USA & Australian pork farming would be highly advantageous
    equally work visa student animal farming science development programs with Vietnam Laos Cambodia to have their students study on those USA & Australian farms

    building towards global eradication where they can then diversify their learning and knowledge to growth globally.


    etc etc
    good solutions are not liked by greedy capitalists & war monger psychos
     
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