A liberal advocacy group plans to spend $8.5 million in a drive to ensure that President Bush's public approval doesn't improve as his days in the White House come to an end. :(

Americans United for Change plans to undertake a yearlong campaign, spending the bulk of the money on advertising, to keep public attention on what the group says are the Bush administration's failures, including the war in Iraq, the response to Hurricane Katrina and the current mortgage crisis.:(

In selling the plan to fundraisers, the group has argued that support for President Reagan was at a low of 42 percent in 1987 but climbed to 63 percent before he left office....

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hn-3whd3le0ScEW3eW45MmCqs7twD8UCCPMG0

Gee, what a surprise. Not. :(

so?

this is free speach, its YOUR choice to ignore it

People DON'T ignore it. They believe it and then spread it like wildfire. Then half the country believes it. Then the rest of the world believes it. See my point?
We have these morons here who hate the USA/Bush SO much that they will say/do anything to make them look bad. I wish W would deport all of them.:(

Sandy there is a difference between someone who dislikes a president who has taken you into TWO wars and driven the economie into the ground and hating the US

Good, he deserves it. I would prefer impeachment, but oh well.

Waste of money though. Who needs 8.5 million to make Bush look bad...? I'll offer to do the same job for 4.25 million.

People DON'T ignore it. They believe it and then spread it like wildfire. Then half the country believes it. Then the rest of the world believes it. See my point?
We have these morons here who hate the USA/Bush SO much that they will say/do anything to make them look bad. I wish W would deport all of them.:(

Why deport them? Deport them to where exactly? You are sounding very similar to Mugabe and those of his ilk.. Don't like what someone is saying.. make them disappear through either deportation or imprisonment.:rolleyes:

You do realise the world and people in the US don't need these advertising campaigns to tell them just how much of a failure the Bush administration has been, don't you? He doesn't need anyone to make him look bad. He does a good job of that himself.

People DON'T ignore it. They believe it and then spread it like wildfire. Then half the country believes it. Then the rest of the world believes it. See my point?
We have these morons here who hate the USA/Bush SO much that they will say/do anything to make them look bad. I wish W would deport all of them.:(

Ah yes, Karl Rove's theory that if you disagree with the Admin, you must hate America..... and Freedom.

What a crock. :rolleyes:

Sandy, you are the most clueless individual I've ever had the displeasure of encountering.

People DON'T ignore it. They believe it and then spread it like wildfire. Then half the country believes it. Then the rest of the world believes it.

Let's hope so.

Because as an American Citizen, I've been embarrassed by the leadership in this nation for 7+ years.

Wait, the sole purpose of this multimillion dollar study is to lower Bush's approval rating??? I can think of many more important things that money can be used for.

its like limbo:p
they want to know how low he can go:p

People DON'T ignore it. They believe it and then spread it like wildfire. Then half the country believes it. Then the rest of the world believes it. See my point?
We have these morons here who hate the USA/Bush SO much that they will say/do anything to make them look bad. I wish W would deport all of them.:(

-Maybe they got something against Bush for a good reason, those cheaters.
-The elite is elite, one the cheaters get awarded with a new job after
getting kicked out from world bank, nepotism, naaah, just business as usual.

"This comprehensive examination of top Bush administration officials’ statements over a two-year period shows how top officials galvanized public opinion in the run-up to the March 18, 2003 invasion of Iraq. The project’s chronology provides a framework for examining how the administration’s false statements led the country into the war in Iraq. The results of this analysis question the repeated assertions of Bush administration officials that they were merely the unwitting victims of bad intelligence."

"Center founder Charles Lewis and researchers helping him write a forthcoming, new book, were instrumental in identifying 935 false statements by eight top administration officials that mentioned Iraq’s possession of weapons of mass destruction, or links to Al Qaeda, on at least 532 separate occasions. The false statements included in the analysis were made by President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Secretary of State Colin Powell, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, and White House press secretaries Ari Fleisher and Scott McClellan."

http://www.commondreams.org/news2008/0123-01.htm

-A quote from Wolfowitz...

“Iraq is literally floating on a sea of oil. We’re talking about a country that can finance it’s own reconstruction, and very quickly.”
“It is inconceivable that it would require more troops to occupy and secure Iraq than it would take for the invasion.”


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"Former World Bank president Paul Wolfowitz has joined the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), a Washington think tank, as a visiting scholar."

"Wolfowitz, who left the post of the World Bank chief on June 30, had been forced to step down after a special bank panel found he broke bank rules when he arranged a hefty compensation package in 2005 for his girlfriend, Shaha Riza, a bank employee.

Before taking over the World Bank, Wolfowitz had served as U.S. deputy defense secretary and played a key role in mapping out the U.S.-led war in Iraq.

The AEI says its purposes "are to defend the principles and improve the institutions of American freedom and democratic capitalism." The nonprofit institution was founded in 1943."

http://english.people.com.cn/200707/03/eng20070703_389592.html

-Those lies did indeed spread like rapid bush fire lol.
-And still just one convicted in 911 case and he get caught because he
was in prison already back then :D lol

It's BlueMoose! I'm always so glad when you stray out here from the Religious part of town. We always need someone fresh to land a few good ones on our "hotty" punching-bag. You oughta get out more- Great Post!

Moose! Moose! Moose! Moose!

Bush isn't a good leader, sandy.

Not that I am or like liberals. I tend to like the more patriotic, conservative, and religious people but in this case they are right. What is a single good thing Bush has done? Oh yea.......went to war, increased national debt, great

People DON'T ignore it. They believe it and then spread it like wildfire. Then half the country believes it. Then the rest of the world believes it. See my point?
We have these morons here who hate the USA/Bush SO much that they will say/do anything to make them look bad. I wish W would deport all of them.:(

1 what you have just suggested in, clearly, in every way, unamerican and antipatriotic.

2 bush does not = the USA.

I think what you want is a dictatorship. A capitalism dictatorship.

Sort of like Augustian Rome or Marcos Phillipines. Probably the latter in terms of aesthetics.

sowhatifit'sdark: "I think what you want is a dictatorship. A capitalism dictatorship."

In political science, the term is fascism.

sowhatifit'sdark: "I think what you want is a dictatorship. A capitalist dictatorship."

In political science, the term is fascism.

Yes, but we don't want to scare Sandy away. We can hold the mirror up in stages as she slowly learns what she is.

Wait, the sole purpose of this multimillion dollar study is to lower Bush's approval rating??? I can think of many more important things that money can be used for.

You can think of it as an investment. If it works, Bush's choices will be seen as bad and future presidents may be less likely to invest trillions of taxpayer dollars in poorly thought out wars that benefit rich americans and no one else.

That would depend. If the dictator was a good man who truly cared for his people, there's nothing wrong with that.

Democracy is merely mob rule......where 51% of the people can take away the rights of 49% of the others

That isn't my quote, though, but I don't know who originally said it but it's true.


It's like communism, the worst form of economy. By the way, communism is NOT A TYPE OF GOVERNMENT. It's a type of economy. However, since their is no competition, there is no improvement and the economy slows down.

Capitalism= the best.

That would depend. If the dictator was a good man who truly cared for his people, there's nothing wrong with that.
As long as being in a perpetual childhood and not being considered worthy of self-rule is not a problem for you.

People tend to only look at the most obvious physical effects of causes when evaluating them.

This is naive.

As long as being in a perpetual childhood and not being considered worthy of self-rule is not a problem for you.

People tend to only look at the most obvious physical effects of causes when evaluating them.

This is naive.

As I said, there is nothing wrong if he is a good man.

However, the best form of government does not yet exist. I think it should involve a sort of democracy blended with "dictator ship"

For instance, there is only one leader but the populace will be able to vote on the laws passed. The role of that one leader will be guidance, and he would control funds

... What is a single good thing Bush has done?

I've already answered this:

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1722680&postcount=9

You seem to focus on the left wingnut talking points and not on the great things W has done. History will be kind to him. :)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/25/AR2008012502781.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

His judicial appointments are among his greatest achievements too. :bravo:

But his cons outweigh his pros. He has increased national debt and gotten America in two wars, both of which are miserable failures costing the nation hundreds of billions of dollars.

But his cons outweigh his pros. He has increased national debt and gotten America in two wars, both of which are miserable failures costing the nation hundreds of billions of dollars.

And why did he increase the debt? To fight the evil muslim terrorists who want us all dead. Who gives a rat's @ss about money when it comes to the security of your country? Not me...

We have not been attacked since 911 thanks to his preventing dozens of further attacks with his security. That is priceless.:bravo:

And why did he increase the debt? To fight the evil muslim terrorists who want us all dead. Who gives a rat's @ss about money when it comes to the security of your country? Not me...

We have not been attacked since 911 thanks to his preventing dozens of further attacks with his security. That is priceless.:bravo:

And yet those "evil muslim terrorists" view him as an "evil american terrorist"

Impeach the chimp, and then try at a war-crimes tribunal.

How? :O

And yet those "evil muslim terrorists" view him as an "evil american terrorist"

Of course they do. Duh. He's the only one with the b@lls to go after them and their ilk.:rolleyes:

Of course they do. Duh. He's the only one with the b@lls to go after them and their ilk.:rolleyes:

not really through out history there was ussually some respect shown to the other side once accusations such as terrorist are being used by both sides to label each other it ussually means both sides are using tactics of questionable maorality

Of course they do. Duh. He's the only one with the b@lls to go after them and their ilk.:rolleyes:

No, he is one of the rich men who is willing to let other brave people go after 'them and their ilk'.

You do realise the world and people in the US don't need these advertising campaigns to tell them just how much of a failure the Bush administration has been, don't you?

Maybe the world at large, Bells, but the American attention and memory spans are strange phenomena. Notice how a lot of people are worried about the economy to the point that it has supplanted the war as the primary concern. Notice also, though, how few Americans connect the expense of the war to the economy.

We are a post-postmodern market-based culture. A good marketing campaign will help Americans forget some pretty heinous stuff. After all, while Americans looked to the Democrats in 2006 to restore some measure of dignity to our government, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has turned out to be nothing more than an administration poodle (http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/01/23/reid/index.html). With enemies like these, the Bush administration is doing just fine. The American attention span is around five seconds at best. When I was a kid, it was seven seconds on average, but the state of things seems to suggest a decline. The American memory span falls somewhere in the range between what's happening this week and what happened two years ago.

Americans need reminding.

Americanas should vote other than Rep or Dem, or boycott the election all together,
that would be interesting ;)

People DON'T ignore it. They believe it and then spread it like wildfire. Then half the country believes it. Then the rest of the world believes it. See my point?
We have these morons here who hate the USA/Bush SO much that they will say/do anything to make them look bad. I wish W would deport all of them.:(

It works both ways Sandy ;)