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anonym0us
03-24-08, 06:22 PM
This message is brought to you on behalf of Anonymous,

The reason why we made this topic is that we want to spread awareness about Anonymous and its fight against Scientology.
This post also is here to inform you about Operation Reconnect, April 12th.

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Film about Scientology if you are not familiar with it:
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What do YOU think of the Church of Scientology?

We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not Forgive.
We do not Forget.
Expect Us.

ElectricFetus
03-24-08, 06:27 PM
Go Anonymous Soldier and fight... at the #chan and the ebaumworlds, we have no Scientologist here.

cosmictraveler
03-24-08, 06:32 PM
Why not fight poverty or cancer or for better paychecks instead?

ElectricFetus
03-24-08, 07:46 PM
Why not fight poverty or cancer or for better paychecks instead?

Because Anonymous fights the battles that equal the most WIN (laughs)

FOR THE WIN Anonymous (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Anonymous)!

Stryder
03-24-08, 08:23 PM
In all essence your posts should really be deleted, however I'm only letting it live out of respect for 2600. Since to be honest, I'm sure the Scientologist's are Phreaked out.

All I can suggest though about the Campaign is it's a waste of Time and Effort, which in turn will more likely raise you as a pip on someone's radar. Not because of the influential status that Scientologist's professed to have but because most *CULT* groups tend to be watched by the authorities very closely, who have more than likely collected evidence about yourself from your 'Attack'.

So.... the real question would be.... How Anonymous is Anonymous? I know first hand with the right equipment it's possible to not just trace people but see what they've done, how they've done it and even know what cologne they are wearing.

ElectricFetus
03-24-08, 08:31 PM
In all essence your posts should really be deleted, however I'm only letting it live out of respect for 2600. Since to be honest, I'm sure the Scientologist's are Phreaked out.

All I can suggest though about the Campaign is it's a waste of Time and Effort, which in turn will more likely raise you as a pip on someone's radar. Not because of the influential status that Scientologist's professed to have but because most *CULT* groups tend to be watched by the authorities very closely, who have more than likely collected evidence about yourself from your 'Attack'.

So.... the real question would be.... How Anonymous is Anonymous? I know first hand with the right equipment it's possible to not just trace people but see what they've done, how they've done it and even know what cologne they are wearing.

True, but Anonymous think that if they put enough rank in they can "epic win" on anyone, considering their last successful attacks I would say they could, but attacking a multi-million dollar cult is not going to be the same as attacking a relatively unknown racist conservative radio talk show host, or some random weeaboo, or a stupid internet 2.0 site.

Primeval Beauty
03-24-08, 08:33 PM
Go Anonymous Soldier and fight... at the #chan and the ebaumworlds, we have no Scientologist here.

Not since we sacrifaced them all to Tarhunt any way.

Avatar
03-24-08, 08:40 PM
My favourite video on Scientology is this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRe0e-Vr0-U&feature=related
The Southpark part, that is.

:D

Roman
03-25-08, 12:32 AM
dood ur links arnt werking!!

EntropyAlwaysWins
03-25-08, 05:00 AM
Im not sure i agree with their (Anonymous) methods, at least not the DoS attacks part, but i can see the point in this.

Poink
03-25-08, 03:48 PM
All I can suggest though about the Campaign is it's a waste of Time and Effort, which in turn will more likely raise you as a pip on someone's radar. Not because of the influential status that Scientologist's professed to have but because most *CULT* groups tend to be watched by the authorities very closely, who have more than likely collected evidence about yourself from your 'Attack'.
Yet this cult is tax exempt (in America their tax exemption is better than any real religion too). They are not watched by authorities, if they were they wouldn't get away with half the stuff they do. As for authorities collecting information on us? I don't know why they would, the most I've done is used my constitutional right to hold up a picket sign for a few hours.

If there is decent discussion on this, I'll likely stick around, and hopefully the original poster will too, but I'm not so sure they will.

Best Wishes.

draqon
03-25-08, 03:57 PM
Im not sure i agree with their (Anonymous) methods, at least not the DoS attacks part, but i can see the point in this.

DOS attacks have proved their worth.

Jozen-Bo
03-25-08, 04:21 PM
In all essence your posts should really be deleted, however I'm only letting it live out of respect for 2600. Since to be honest, I'm sure the Scientologist's are Phreaked out.

All I can suggest though about the Campaign is it's a waste of Time and Effort, which in turn will more likely raise you as a pip on someone's radar. Not because of the influential status that Scientologist's professed to have but because most *CULT* groups tend to be watched by the authorities very closely, who have more than likely collected evidence about yourself from your 'Attack'.

So.... the real question would be.... How Anonymous is Anonymous? I know first hand with the right equipment it's possible to not just trace people but see what they've done, how they've done it and even know what cologne they are wearing.

Cool!!!

What Cologne am I wearing?

draqon
03-25-08, 04:22 PM
Cool!!!

What Cologne am I wearing?

your own body cologne.

Neildo
03-25-08, 06:15 PM
Because Anonymous fights the battles that equal the most WIN

Heh.

- N

Stryder
03-26-08, 05:30 AM
Yet this cult is tax exempt (in America their tax exemption is better than any real religion too). They are not watched by authorities, if they were they wouldn't get away with half the stuff they do. As for authorities collecting information on us? I don't know why they would, the most I've done is used my constitutional right to hold up a picket sign for a few hours.

If there is decent discussion on this, I'll likely stick around, and hopefully the original poster will too, but I'm not so sure they will.

Best Wishes.

For the most part they wouldn't actually be that interested, except when some of the activities that occur are potentially "too clever". That's why the emphasis on protests following legal patterns, after all achieving something legally is more of a victory than just being seen as a bunch of Cyber Vandals.

The problems I emphasise though is that a lot of time and effort is put into dogging their CULT, but there are corporations and Country leaders that get away with a lot of more and those complaints are usually silenced.

Stryder
03-26-08, 05:33 AM
Cool!!!

What Cologne am I wearing?

Like I mentioned such surveillance costs money and there would have to be a reason. I personally don't run such systems, so I wouldn't have the foggiest. I'd hazard a guess though that you don't wear a Cologne and for the most part protestors don't either. It costs money and potentially is tested on animals, maybe deodorants, perhaps an aftershave if you are after the ladies.

Poink
03-26-08, 05:43 PM
For the most part they wouldn't actually be that interested, except when some of the activities that occur are potentially "too clever". That's why the emphasis on protests following legal patterns, after all achieving something legally is more of a victory than just being seen as a bunch of Cyber Vandals.

The problems I emphasise though is that a lot of time and effort is put into dogging their CULT, but there are corporations and Country leaders that get away with a lot of more and those complaints are usually silenced.

I agree there are a lot of things that need to be fixed/exposed, but just saying we shouldn't do anything about this because there are other problems is quite silly. You're basically saying, there's other things that need to be done, so why start at all?

Anyway I found this video that does an excellent job of pointing out that their tax exemption is unconstitutional. I mean if a federal judge says it is, that has some weight, doesn't it?

vimeo.com/824772 (it won't allow new posters to post links... so just copy/paste it)

pjdude1219
03-26-08, 06:38 PM
This message is brought to you on behalf of Anonymous,

The reason why we made this topic is that we want to spread awareness about Anonymous and its fight against Scientology.
This post also is here to inform you about Operation Reconnect, April 12th.

Our Message:
hxxp://youtube.com/watch?v=JCbKv9yiLiQ

Operation Reconnect:
hxxp://youtube.com/watch?v=NSSgwD-9PS4

For more information about Anonymous check out:
hxxp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Chanology

Film about Scientology if you are not familiar with it:
hxxp://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=2196573959887248236

hxxp://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4575/anonymousbecause2jq3.jpg

What do YOU think of the Church of Scientology?

We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not Forgive.
We do not Forget.
Expect Us.

i hope you defeat those crazy bastards

Stryder
03-26-08, 11:00 PM
You're basically saying, there's other things that need to be done, so why start at all?

That's not what I'm saying, what I'm saying is if you are going to do a job at least do it properly. Scientology is a crazy cult religion, however ALL other religions are just as full of shit. So why pick on JUST the crazy cult religion, Purge the lot of them.

pjdude1219
03-26-08, 11:08 PM
That's not what I'm saying, what I'm saying is if you are going to do a job at least do it properly. Scientology is a crazy cult religion, however ALL other religions are just as full of shit. So why pick on JUST the crazy cult religion, Purge the lot of them.

ON NO SCIENTOLOGY IS ON A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL THAN OTHER RELIGIONS

Stryder
03-26-08, 11:15 PM
ON NO SCIENTOLOGY IS ON A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL THAN OTHER RELIGIONS
SCIENTOLOGY vs RAELISM
WAKO's on both teams, both with a late 1970's inauguration, both with bizarre wako related "belief's", Both pulling Tax exemption. So why are the RAELIAN'S ignored with the current attack focused on just Scientology, after all if they were truly being pursued by a "Legion" it could handle more than one front alone.

EntropyAlwaysWins
03-27-08, 01:55 AM
That's not what I'm saying, what I'm saying is if you are going to do a job at least do it properly. Scientology is a crazy cult religion, however ALL other religions are just as full of shit. So why pick on JUST the crazy cult religion, Purge the lot of them.

Its very simple, regardless of whether you think religion is the answer to everything or complete rubbish, or anywhere in between for that matter, you have a constitutional right to believe this, just as everyone else has just as much a right to believe whatever the hell they want.

The problem is when one group tries to take things too far, e.g., the unfair tax exemption, illegal imprisonment, etc, etc, Ad Nauseam.

pjdude1219
03-27-08, 02:18 AM
SCIENTOLOGY vs RAELISM
WAKO's on both teams, both with a late 1970's inauguration, both with bizarre wako related "belief's", Both pulling Tax exemption. So why are the RAELIAN'S ignored with the current attack focused on just Scientology, after all if they were truly being pursued by a "Legion" it could handle more than one front alone.

probably because the Raelian's are not miltant and aren't a scam for money

Avatar
03-27-08, 02:30 AM
Scientology is not a religion, it's an enterprise. There are only 10 countries crazy enough to give it religion status.
They're under gov surveillance in Germany.

ElectricFetus
03-28-08, 07:49 PM
I tried to watch this again all the way though, but I can't stop laughing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0

Xelios
03-29-08, 09:30 AM
Scientology is being attacked because it's one of the only "religions" that actively suppresses dissent in its followers, scams people out of money and sues/stalks/threatens anyone who works against them. And because they pissed off a bunch of internet geeks when they DMCA'd the leaked Tom Cruise video. Most religions are shady in my opinion, but Scientology really is on a different level.

I saw this on /. the other day, sums up the process pretty well I think:

Belief Systems Classified by Time Since Inception

0 - 0.5 years : Eccentricity

0.5 - 10 years : Scam

10 - 100 years : Cult

100 - 5,000 years : Genuine theology that reflects the true nature of being and the foundation of our civilization

5,000 + : Myth

I'm a fan of Anonymous, not so much because they're attacking the CoS, but because they're actually getting people off their asses and into the streets. If it works people will take notice, and maybe we'll finally be on our way to putting an end to the apathy that's been running rampant since the 60's. March 15th was their last protest,

Over 800 people showed up in London
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKnCpDCcjuo

Several hundred in Sydney
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jA46ljkfTA

And thousands more in cities all over the world. Next one is on April 12th, and you can bet there will be even more.

Avatar
03-29-08, 09:38 AM
I'm just wondering about the people who fall for that scientology crap,
you'd have to be braindead to believe it.

ElectricFetus
03-29-08, 10:18 AM
I think a good question is to ask if Anonymous its self is a cult? (or because of it's age according to Xelios it would be an more of a "Eccentricity")

I think Anonymous is more of an anti-cult: their is no leader, no order, nothing is being ask of you, you join and leave if you want without reprisal, your not even ask to reveal your identity... is that how the KKK functions too?

Xelios
03-29-08, 10:40 AM
I laughed when ABC news reported on the March 15 protests and called it a "war between two area churches", they actually called Anonymous a rival church. :shrug:

They hide their identity because the CoS actively employs private investigators to dig up dirt on anyone who speaks against them, then uses that dirt to sue them or blackmail them or what have you. There's lots of videos on Youtube of Scientologists photographing protestors, following them home, photographing the plates on their cars and so on. Hence the masks.

Not to mention the bomb threats Scientology fabricated to make it look like Anonymous is a bunch of terrorists, something they've been caught doing red handed (http://home.snafu.de/tilman/krasel/cooper/frk.html) in the past.

BTW why is this in pseudoscience? Shouldn't it be in world events or free thoughts or something?

EntropyAlwaysWins
03-29-08, 10:56 AM
... is that how the KKK functions too?

What....?

the KKK is an openly racist Paramilitary group.

How are the they connected?

Avatar
03-29-08, 10:58 AM
The question is about the structure of organization.

ElectricFetus
03-29-08, 01:25 PM
What....?

the KKK is an openly racist Paramilitary group.

How are the they connected?

just wondering if they are structured the same, although Anonymous is rather racist, with all their "nigger stole my bike!" and "This nigger looks presidential" memes.

EntropyAlwaysWins
03-30-08, 02:51 AM
Well, the KKK is a paramilitary group, which implies leadership and a more rigid structure.
Whereas Anonymous (as they repeatedly point out) has no leaders and presumably no rigid hierarchy.

Poink
03-30-08, 04:04 AM
just wondering if they are structured the same, although Anonymous is rather racist, with all their "nigger stole my bike!" and "This nigger looks presidential" memes.

I don't actually think most of the people currently calling themselves anonymous are actually racist. People just like to push boundaries. In the end words like "nigger" are just words. They lose their offensive value if they're constantly used in a satirical manner. "Yankee" was once a word used by the British to insult the colonists in the song Yankee Doodle Dandy, but we all know how that turned out. The meme "This nigger looks presidential" actually comes across as generally supportive.

It is my firm belief that it is not the words used, but the intention behind them which is important.

Challenger78
03-30-08, 04:58 AM
This message is brought to you on behalf of Anonymous,

The reason why we made this topic is that we want to spread awareness about Anonymous and its fight against Scientology.
This post also is here to inform you about Operation Reconnect, April 12th.

Our Message:
hxxp://youtube.com/watch?v=JCbKv9yiLiQ

Operation Reconnect:
hxxp://youtube.com/watch?v=NSSgwD-9PS4

For more information about Anonymous check out:
hxxp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Chanology

Film about Scientology if you are not familiar with it:
hxxp://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=2196573959887248236

hxxp://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4575/anonymousbecause2jq3.jpg

What do YOU think of the Church of Scientology?

We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not Forgive.
We do not Forget.
Expect Us.

Good luck. Any religion that forces people to disconnect from families, has to change.

Not saying that scientologists should be persecuted, just that they shouldn't force families apart.

JDawg
03-30-08, 01:23 PM
I'm glad Anonymous is doing this. Scientology is a proven scam. L. Ron's own manuscripts on the subject are public domain, so we have the proof that it is nothing more than a money-making enterprise.

There was a sign being held up by a protester at the Sydney rally, and I think it was perfect: "Finding Jesus: $0; Finding Lord Xenu: $159,160; Faith Should Be Free".

No matter what others say about Christianity, no one has to pay a dime to have faith in God. If I wanted to, I could attend church, and even go to Confession, at no cost. More than that, I could decide that Christianity was not the answer, and abandon the religion with no fear of persecution. I could even go on TV and say that Christianity is a sham without fear of a church member following me around trying to discredit me. None of this is true in Scientology.

Even though the Christian/Catholic churches have been guilty of many atrocities in times past, they got with the times and stopped doing those horrible things. They figured out that murdering non-believers isn't the way. Even Islam, which tends to breed hatred among the oppressed and poor, does not teach hatred and murder and the harassment and destruction of those who do not believe. Yes, the blueprints are there, but only the desperate practice those things.

It's time to put an end to Scientology. Having the right to believe what you want is quite different than allowing yourself to be extorted and blackmailed by a money-hungry cult. Persecute the hell out of Scientology, I say.

ElectricFetus
03-30-08, 04:11 PM
I've been try to define anonymous for some time now, I think it is something new brought on by this internet generation, just random jack-off-alots who are brought together by their shared internet experience and their shared infection of internet memes, somehow it may be the purest from of anarchism yet: no leader, no order, just a mental virus that is at present focused on an altruistic calling (bring down a cult) but usually strikes at anyone simply for a joy of it.

Xelios
03-30-08, 08:54 PM
Should be pointed out that the Anonymous who started this campaign and the Anonymous that're doing it now aren't really the same group of people. The old Anonymous (though its still around) is a group of people from the 4chan message boards with way too much time on their hands who screw around with people for laughs (hacking websites, prank phone calls, black faxes, that sort of thing) and start internet memes.

The new Anonymous is a much bigger group of people who've joined in on the fight against Scientology. These are random people on the internet who show up at the protests partly because they believe Scientology needs to be stopped, and partly because it's fun. Most have no connection to the 'old' Anonymous, they've just adopted the name because it symbolises the movement very well. There are no leaders, there's no core group of people running the show, anyone and everyone can take part and because Scientology forces people to wear masks everyone remains anonymous, so Scientology has nobody to target.

JDawg
03-30-08, 10:49 PM
You know, if you bash this Anonymous group, you actually forward Scientology's cause. You're doing their dirty work for them, so to speak.

Regardless of what Anonymous has done in the past, why they came to be, or even what brings folks to the rallies, they're working on the side of good. They may have been brought to action by the Church of Scientology stepping on their self-assumed right to have information, but that doesn't make Anonymous any less just in their cause.

ElectricFetus
03-30-08, 10:51 PM
Should be pointed out that the Anonymous who started this campaign and the Anonymous that're doing it now aren't really the same group of people. The old Anonymous (though its still around) is a group of people from the 4chan message boards with way too much time on their hands who screw around with people for laughs (hacking websites, prank phone calls, black faxes, that sort of thing) and start internet memes.

The new Anonymous is a much bigger group of people who've joined in on the fight against Scientology. These are random people on the internet who show up at the protests partly because they believe Scientology needs to be stopped, and partly because it's fun. Most have no connection to the 'old' Anonymous, they've just adopted the name because it symbolises the movement very well. There are no leaders, there's no core group of people running the show, anyone and everyone can take part and because Scientology forces people to wear masks everyone remains anonymous, so Scientology has nobody to target.

I disagree, after watching the videos of the protest, after seeing their
"looooong cat" posters and listen to them spout memes like "DO NOT WANT" I think that most of them are the same people, it's just now they are getting active IRL, which is something very new and unpredictable, and perhaps benefital. Last time 20 year olds got active and protested stuff it was the 1960's.

JDawg
03-30-08, 10:53 PM
SCIENTOLOGY vs RAELISM
WAKO's on both teams, both with a late 1970's inauguration, both with bizarre wako related "belief's", Both pulling Tax exemption. So why are the RAELIAN'S ignored with the current attack focused on just Scientology, after all if they were truly being pursued by a "Legion" it could handle more than one front alone.

For one, I don't know if you can compare a group of mostly harmless wingnuts to a paramilitary organization with cultural and political influence. The CoS has everything that the Raelians don't; huge amounts of money, enormously famous and influential celebrities to spread their word, and the ability to infiltrate government. While both are laughably stupid in premise, only the CoS poses a real threat. I think the main difference lies in their founders; Hubbard wasn't just crazy, he was pissed.

Neildo
03-31-08, 01:58 AM
after seeing their "looooong cat" posters

Hey, it's kind of fitting considering one of the messages Scientologists send to "suppressive persons" is to poison their pets. :\

- N

Xelios
03-31-08, 08:25 AM
I disagree, after watching the videos of the protest, after seeing their
"looooong cat" posters and listen to them spout memes like "DO NOT WANT" I think that most of them are the same people, it's just now they are getting active IRL, which is something very new and unpredictable, and perhaps benefital. Last time 20 year olds got active and protested stuff it was the 1960's.
The thing about memes is they spread like wildfire on the internet. LOLcat started on the 4chan board, but nowadays it's all over the internet. Same with longcat. Rick rolling is another example.

But like I said, the old Anonymous is still around, and I'm sure some of them are at these protests too, but by and large the rallys are made up of people with no connection to the old Anonymous, other than using some of the memes they started. I think a lot of them come from Youtube after seeing the various videos of protests and Anonymous' message to Scientology.

ElectricFetus
03-31-08, 09:10 AM
The thing about memes is they spread like wildfire on the internet. LOLcat started on the 4chan board, but nowadays it's all over the internet. Same with longcat. Rick rolling is another example.

But like I said, the old Anonymous is still around, and I'm sure some of them are at these protests too, but by and large the rallys are made up of people with no connection to the old Anonymous, other than using some of the memes they started. I think a lot of them come from Youtube after seeing the various videos of protests and Anonymous' message to Scientology.

And you don't think after youtube and after looking into anonymous they go to 4chan, ebaumsworld, ytmnd, etc and get mind raped and come out of it both "new" and "old" anonymous?

Avatar
03-31-08, 09:12 AM
Fascinating! An interesting subculture I didn't know exists.

ElectricFetus
03-31-08, 10:33 AM
Fascinating! An interesting subculture I didn't know exists.

Warning:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/chaeinmael/4chan%20moar/4chan.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o137/anonigra/stages.jpg

Avatar
03-31-08, 10:36 AM
lol, thanks for the warning.

Xelios
03-31-08, 11:49 AM
And you don't think after youtube and after looking into anonymous they go to 4chan, ebaumsworld, ytmnd, etc and get mind raped and come out of it both "new" and "old" anonymous?
That's like saying people are going to become anti-semites after reading Mein Kampf. No, I don't think that because someone watches some Youtube movies and attends a protest against Scientology they'll start defacing websites and attacking random people for fun.

ElectricFetus
03-31-08, 01:44 PM
That's like saying people are going to become anti-semites after reading Mein Kampf. No, I don't think that because someone watches some Youtube movies and attends a protest against Scientology they'll start defacing websites and attacking random people for fun.

That was not at all what I was saying, I was saying they would get infected with all the internet memes on those sites, start laughing at demotivation posters, and start making fun of weeaboos, and when an internet raid or some particularly moron gets s/he site gets hack they will participate in cocking the place up... Hum i guess that is what I was saying.

EntropyAlwaysWins
04-01-08, 02:42 AM
Most Internet memes by definition spread far beyond their original foundations.
Also sites like icanhascheezburger.com are now more associated with the lolcat meme than the 4chan message board.

ElectricFetus
04-02-08, 10:35 AM
I'm getting more and more turn on over this that I already purchased my Guy Fawkes masks and and so going to protest on April 12 (and probably freeze my ass off). EntropyAlwaysWins you should join us, your laughing man avatar sort of strikes me that e tu also a revolutionary.

EntropyAlwaysWins
04-03-08, 02:23 AM
I really am tempted to go, but where abouts does one get Guy Fawkes masks from?
Also nice to know someone recognised the avatar.

ElectricFetus
04-03-08, 04:38 AM
I really am tempted to go, but where abouts does one get Guy Fawkes masks from?
Also nice to know someone recognised the avatar.

Well if you recognized my avatars I'm a big GitS fan.

Just pump in "Guy Fawkes masks buy" in google.

Poink
04-04-08, 08:05 PM
Speaking of a stand alone complex. These are probably highly relevant.

cydeweys.com/blog/2008/01/28/scientology-sac/
animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=546757

ElectricFetus
04-04-08, 09:55 PM
Well to complete my anoymousification, after year of auto-mindrape and trolling all the anonymous forums, I just today read "V for Vendetta" It was a little contrived but alright. Now I totally understand the reasoning for the Guy Fawkes masks, it has less to do with Guy Fawkes any more to do with "V", "V" is anonymous, anarchist immortal. You can kill "V" but there will always be another "V" or is it the same person? "V" is one, "V" is mean, "V" is legend.

ElectricFetus
04-16-08, 11:20 PM
Well it was fun, but really dam cold!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGP0iDSTQqg

Alorus
04-20-08, 08:18 PM
The fact that people are protesting in the real world shows that there is a fairly large movement online because most protests tend to be online today.

If anyone really wanted to hurt the scientologists, the best way would be to find a way to hurt them financially.

Roman
04-21-08, 02:36 PM
Scientology is cool. It makes stupid people give smart people money. How is that not cool?

Stryder
04-21-08, 04:08 PM
Here's something I haven't said before about the whole Anonymous Vs Scientology factor.

It's a fact that Scientology is a rubbish religion based upon a bunch of fiction. The fiction however attributed to how a person or persons could make money by creating a religion, but to be a bonafide religion you require certain things in play.

Firstly you need to be persecuted, This has been identified in every main stream religion with the most recent occurrence during the second world war. In the case of a religion that invented it would make sense to actually invent your inverse, your "anti" and therefore be seen publically as persecuted.

Therefore you can suggest that the very agents of Anonymous that got these particular marches on the go, are in fact Scientologist's. Technically it's a play for persecution and they are manipulating those people that join the ranks of anonymous into playing their game.

After all most mainstream religions have a Duality, a Yin-Yan. In Christianity it's the anti-Christ.

All I can say is: ~Played!~

ElectricFetus
04-21-08, 06:26 PM
Here's something I haven't said before about the whole Anonymous Vs Scientology factor.

It's a fact that Scientology is a rubbish religion based upon a bunch of fiction. The fiction however attributed to how a person or persons could make money by creating a religion, but to be a bonafide religion you require certain things in play.

Firstly you need to be persecuted, This has been identified in every main stream religion with the most recent occurrence during the second world war. In the case of a religion that invented it would make sense to actually invent your inverse, your "anti" and therefore be seen publically as persecuted.

Therefore you can suggest that the very agents of Anonymous that got these particular marches on the go, are in fact Scientologist's. Technically it's a play for persecution and they are manipulating those people that join the ranks of anonymous into playing their game.

After all most mainstream religions have a Duality, a Yin-Yan. In Christianity it's the anti-Christ.

All I can say is: ~Played!~

We are not burning them on stakes or gassing them, we are not the government either, being rioted against by a bunch of kids and old hippies dancing in the street is not persecution.

Stryder
04-21-08, 08:22 PM
We are not burning them on stakes or gassing them, we are not the government either, being rioted against by a bunch of kids and old hippies dancing in the street is not persecution.

Ah but think of it like this Fetus, anonymous is their "Anti" without them they don't have a duality religion. You've just ~played~ nicely into their scheme of things...

It's just there is more important things for people to muster behind and protest about, for instance Human Rights Violations in regards to Clandestine projects that undermine the very essence of the Nuremberg Code. Unpaid Volunteers conducting government experiments without a clue they are being used and not just used but put in Jeopardy from the potential of Foreign espionage agents wanting information on those particular programs.

Of course what I've stated is something that won't be seen and nobody wants to hear, but there probably too busy elsewhere being kept Apathetically and conveniently occupied by other agendas.

ElectricFetus
04-21-08, 09:26 PM
Ah but think of it like this Fetus, anonymous is their "Anti" without them they don't have a duality religion. You've just ~played~ nicely into their scheme of things...

It's just there is more important things for people to muster behind and protest about, for instance Human Rights Violations in regards to Clandestine projects that undermine the very essence of the Nuremberg Code. Unpaid Volunteers conducting government experiments without a clue they are being used and not just used but put in Jeopardy from the potential of Foreign espionage agents wanting information on those particular programs.

Of course what I've stated is something that won't be seen and nobody wants to hear, but there probably too busy elsewhere being kept Apathetically and conveniently occupied by other agendas.

Of course there are far better causes, but anonymous does things for the lolz, fucking with a cult is lolzy. Scientology does not need and "anti", by their "religion" basic premise everyone out to get them and it all being worked by psychiatrist, they already feel persecuted by everyone, real or not.