Grrrrrr, you deleted my post!

It's title was: FELLUJAH, how do you spell W-A-T-E-R-L-O-O?

The question is, "Why would you do this?!" :mad:

You seem to have this Bushitis whereby the power flows through your veins like some Mt. Vesuvias of ages past. You seem to want to "hammer the square peg in the round hole" and you don't seem to "give a care," (to put it mildly) what a new poster thinks or sez - or even feels <different> about things in Iraq than you probably do.

I accepted the fact that I have posted essay's that reflected my feelings without crediting the writer. Well, often the writer remains anonymous for political or unannounced reasons. In the end, who gives a caca, the post is not placed there for pecuniary reasons anywho, so "what's-it-to-ya?"

In my post I remarked about the massive loss of life our US soldiers are experiencing because we have a group of pro-Israel neoCon(men) Judenrats in the Bush administration (Rummy, Wolfowitz, Feith, Wurmser and Perle), and Israel's 5th column in the US Congress (The Joe Liebermans, Tom Lantos, the Carl Levins, the Feingolds, Boxers, with a few AIPAC/ZOA Harlots and Poster boys, like our John McCain-R, Mitch McConnell's-R, Jon Kyles-R, the Sessions-R, the Warners-R, et. al.) thrown in for flavor.

People that have helped shift America's gears into the WHY DON'T YOU AND HIM FIGHT MODE a technique that has been used with great success by the ZioNazi's of Israel to PERSUADE (gulp) the US to eliminate and/or disarm Israel's many Arab enemies in the Middle East, while arming Israel to the gills with the best in the US' armory and overlooking its Nuclear weaponry and Israel's refusal to sign the UN Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty and thus opening up its Nuclear, Jericho I & II IRBM cach and the larget stores of Chemical, Bacterialogical and Radiological weaponry in the Middle East to UN inspectors.

You have forgotten one thing Coffe Clutch, and that is that: OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES, EVERYONE HAS ONE and that is a fact of life that drives my opinion, Re: Fellujah, America's Waterloo....

While you would probably "normally" have a cup of java and digest what I have written before blowing your top :eek: I suggest that instead you have yourself a half dozen Kosher Chicken Tacos and a couple of ice cold Corona's and chill out with an industrial sized :m: because if this battle of wits continues someone is going to be embarrassed.

Yes, yes, you can cut me off, but indeed this would be the cowards way out - (besides, what would your fans say - you do have fans I suppose, si?)

Interesting, but to me it all seems so similiar to the current Viceroy of Baghdad's recent closing of the Shiites newspaper in Fallujah because its editors were "opining" (as Bill O'Reilly like to say) thoughts and feelings that cut across the US efforts in Iraq to rape the country out of its oil, Communications, Construction, Banking and Misc. industries for the benefit of the coalition membership in general and the US/English ROBBER BARONS in particular.... not to mention an inability of Viceroy Bremer to accept world criticisim over the US' attempt to place Ahmed Chabali (an indicted embezzler and rabble rousing Iraqi con man who has collected millions in US taxpayer dollars for feeding the US bogus intelligence and political disinformation) and who has been placed in a position of trust by the US as head of the US' puppet government in Iraq.

Tis true, the Middle East is exploding and I assure you that it isn't for the reasons our Whitehouse terrorist suggests: "THEY HATE US BECAUSE WE'RE FREE. It actually hinges on one pathetic fact and that is about the US' not so EVEN HANDED POLICIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

Maybe your politics are different than mine and you feel that America is not currently POLORIZED and that everything is HUNKY DORY, Ha!

Note: I was an F-15/F-16 fighter instructor pilot in Israel in the late 1970's whereby we taught the Israeli IAF pilots how to FLY, FIGHT & WIN, but then came 1982 (the invasion of Lebanon by the LIKUDNIK mass murderers Menechem Begin & Ariel Sharon) and I learned what these Jewish killers would be doing with our training: Murdering, Cluster bombing, Maiming, Wounding, while leaving 500,000+ Lebanese and Palestinian civilians homeless and in utter dispair.

This was the straw that broke the camel's back (excuse the pun) and this created the end of my GREAT ADMIRATION for the Zionist killers and unmitigated trespassers of Israel

C 'est le Vie!

The Whirlwind....

Four things:

1. This is being moved to Site Feedback where everybody can join in on the hate-fest.
2. I don't like Corona, I like real beer.
3. I don't smoke pot.
4. I didn't delete your thread and it appears that it never existed in the first place. Maybe an error on your part?

Grrrrrr, you deleted my post!Before making such an assertation, you might review your list of posts (http://sciforums.com/search.php?searchid=57587) to see if it is actually true.

:m: Peace.

How embarrassing

I could delete it for you, Whirlwind, but only if you want me to. This way you won't look like a complete fool.

Doesn't this count as overriding a mod edit? Can't we tar and feather him for this?

Where I come from we hang people like Whirlwind. But that's just us.

Where I come from we hang people like Whirlwind. But that's just us.
Know any cheap real estate there? How's the job market in the Aerospace industry?

Before making such an assertation, you might review your list of posts (http://sciforums.com/search.php?searchid=57587) to see if it is actually true.

Peace.

Whirlwind responds....

Actually true, huh?

Hahahahahaha, I looked and the file is empty! :rolleyes:

But reading the responses from the Sciform Mad hatters I am not surprised.

This group (I have been to hundred's) acts like some immovable force created in some Alice-in-Wonderland Mad Hatter (deep thinkers :eek:) laboratory there at Sciform.com/land and all I can do it to let their COMMENTS roll of my back "like water off a ducks back."

Meanwhile, a special thanks to GOOFYFISH, for a foul smelling (clothes pin to nose) fellow who sez little but impresses MUCHO, I must say, you "show a lot of class." I am sure that you are not a cough-cough-cough pro-Israel zealot (like "someone" I know on Sciform) even if you smell like Gifilte soup.

OK, Coffee clutch, you got away clean (this time :mad: ) and my post: "Fallujah, how do you spell W-A-T-E-R-L-O-O" is now lost in cyberspace, but don't be surprised if is reappears serendipitously and bites you in the arse one day!

Whirlwind....*

* "Read and grow wise or ignore me and die stupid!"
(Whirlwind has spoken).

The link to the search expired recently.
Click on your own name, look at posts by you.
Then come back and apologize to everyone.

Turd.

I tried finding it in his post and thread listing... if it was deleted, shouldn't you be honest about it?
Your observational skills are lacking.
Here's a screen shot (http://users.adelphia.net/~goofyfish/images/whirlwind.jpg). Here's the post (http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=550290#post550290).

Whirlwind:
OK, Coffee clutch, you got away clean (this time ) and my post: "Fallujah, how do you spell W-A-T-E-R-L-O-O" is now lost in cyberspace, but don't be surprised if is reappears serendipitously and bites you in the arse one day!

It's not lost. Goofy just posted a link to it, and a screen shot. Keep acting like a jackass though, it's cute.

-- The Grand Dragon Gizzrad

It's not lost. Goofy just posted a link to it, and a screen shot. Keep acting like a jackass though, it's cute.

-- The Grand Dragon Gizzrad

Whirlwind....

OK, so FISHMAN has located (a piece of my missing post) so how do I recover "all" of it? :confused:

"Terd," then "Jackass," huh?

Hey Fishman and Coffee Clutch, did you two graduate from Princeton?* Like Rumsfeld, navigating through your vernacular tells me you did! (bottom feeders, huh Fishman? )

*Just kidding, I would guess high GED achievers, jajajaja :D

"Terd," then "Jackass," huh?

No... "turd".

The name I use for some one who crashes into the forums for a few weeks, makes a bunch of unsubtantiated accusasions and proclaims themselves wronged - and when they are shown to have been mistaken, continue to lash out at others rather than apologize.

And in this instance, I have apparently used it correctly. Turd.

Whirlwind:
Hey Fishman and Coffee Clutch, did you two graduate from Princeton?* Like Rumsfeld, navigating through your vernacular tells me you did! (bottom feeders, huh Fishman? )

*Just kidding, I would guess high GED achievers, jajajaja

I'm not the one posting articles and trying to pass them as my own. How about you break a bone so that an original one will grow in its place?

-- The Grand Dragon Gizzard

It's not lost. Goofy just posted a link to it, and a screen shot. Keep acting like a jackass though, it's cute.

-- The Grand Dragon Gizzrad


Whirlwind......

You did it!
You did it!
You did it!

You blocked me out huh?

"Cabron!"

Whirlwind......

What was that supposed to mean?

I blocked you out of what? I have no ban power; I have no power beyond World Events, Politics, and Scifi.

What the heck is your problem? Maybe you have a screwed up computer? Or maybe you don't know how to read and recognize your own posts? Either way you're wrong on all counts.

-- The Grand Dragon Gizzard

Goofy, do you have ban power?

No... "turd".

The name I use for some one who crashes into the forums for a few weeks, makes a bunch of unsubtantiated accusasions and proclaims themselves wronged - and when they are shown to have been mistaken, continue to lash out at others rather than apologize.

And in this instance, I have apparently used it correctly. Turd.

Whirlwind replies: :o

"Shown to have been mistaken?" :rolleyes:

OK, so a "piece" of this so-called UNSUBTANTIATED post was finally located by myself. See, no one was day dreaming, :mad: so what apologies are due and to whom Fishman and who is the real "turd" that deleted it, YOU?

Whirlwind,
"the truth needs no memory."

Goofy, do you have ban power?

I worry about a guy that has "Jesus" loving him all night long.

BTW: Why would you suggest someone get banned just because he has his post deleted without due justice?

Think about it... :rolleyes:

Where you from, Israel or Rawanda?

Whirlwind

You just wish you had Jesus under your thumb like I do.

Besides, I think you should be worrying about yourself right about now.
You are the one intent on vilifying the mods and demanding apologies for a nonexistent misdeed, are you not?




Xev, do you have ban power? :rolleyes:

CounslerCoffee,

Where I come from we hang people like Whirlwind. But that's just us.

I thought you guys beheaded by handsawing? In any case, I think a crucifixion would be much more appropriate.



Whirlwind,

You sound a lot like that hopeless military reject, what's his name - abdullathebomber, or whats-his-face - the original before you got banned, only to return again? I almost forgot about you dammit.

And right when proud_muslim was beginning to show some signs of sanity...stupid exists in an equilibrium on sciforums, and you've come to fill the vacuum..

Whirlwind,

BTW: Why would you suggest someone get banned just because he has his post deleted without due justice?

Your post is still there!

Whirlwind, have you ever wondered why some of your threads (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=34617) are not closed? Could it be that they go by the rules... No, I'm just messing with your mind!

-- The Grand Dragon Gizzard

Hey Whirlwind, that thread definitely seems to have entered la la land and where goofyfish came up wth the little data he did is beyond me (goofyfish?)but I think his and that ChokingonCoffee dude's behavior is just more of what is addressed in http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=34762

Online public forums don't work. The irrational and illogical gravitate to positions of authority. There are exceptions though. I know of at least one moderator on this forum who seems like a very reasonable sort but I wont name him in hopes that he lasts awhile. In general though, the fowl rule the roosts. Couple that with the inevitable "you said what about who? me?" infeasibility of lengthy serialized communications and you got the recipe for lots of misunderstandings. Just a whole barrel of fun...

WTF, CounslerCoffee? What does that last URl you gave have to do with anything? Weee, ah, take a break from that coffee dude. Have you ever seen people strung out on that stuff? They get real crazy sometimes...

No reason to get so mean spirited. That's immoderation, man. I see you've been growing a real vile attitude towards Whirlwind and I really wonder what the hell is your problem.

Why not help figure out what happened? Sheesh, maybe he (and me too as far as I can tell so far about that thread I remember seeing too at one time) are just overlooking the thread somehow.

Something sure smells fishy, goofy?

Whoa, click on Whirlwind's name and then the list of threads he's started http://www.sciforums.com/search.php?searchid=58138 and see how many CounslerCoffee (sure looks like he misspelled his own name) has locked down and his stated reasons. Sure looks like you are just flying CC.

Mr. Chip's,

WTF, CounslerCoffee? What does that last URl you gave have to do with anything? Weee, ah, take a break from that coffee dude. Have you ever seen people strung out on that stuff? They get real crazy sometimes...

It shows that I'm not closing his threads because I dislike them; I'm closing his threads because they violate the site rules.

Why not help figure out what happened? Sheesh, maybe he (and me too as far as I can tell so far about that thread I remember seeing too at one time) are just overlooking the thread somehow.

Something sure smells fishy, goofy?

Yes, something smells awfully fishy. I'm being accused of deleting a post (Not a thread) that can still be found (http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=550290#post550290) on sciforums. Goofy even posted a picture of the post in question.

Here's a little fact for you: I have not edited one of Whirlwind's posts, I've just closed some of his threads.

Whoa, click on Whirlwind's name and then the list of threads he's started http://www.sciforums.com/search.php?searchid=58138 and see how many CounslerCoffee (sure looks like he misspelled his own name) has locked down and his stated reasons. Sure looks like you are just flying CC.

Give me each thread title and I'll tell you why I closed em'. I already explain in most of them why I did so. Really, you cannot be this freakin' paranoid.

And about my name... Don't tell me not 'to get so mean spirited' and then point out that I misspelled a name, even though you can spell names however you want. Really, if you’re here in this thread, to represent tolerance and understanding; you aren’t doing a very good job by insinuating that I’m a jackass that doesn’t know how to spell. That's really 'mean spirited' of you, Mr. Chips.

-- The Grand Dragon Gizzard

Y'all wanna know why nine of Whirlwind's thirteen threads (http://www.sciforums.com/search.php?searchid=58198) have been closed? It's simple: violations of forum rules. Read on to find out what his various offences were.

The Threads:

Bush & Blair: Walking barefooted on the hot Iraqi coals - ouch! (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=34725) -- The thread was created just to get my attention. Goading, baiting; call it what you want. Also, when posting a thread, you have to offer some type of commentary.

American Empire, This too will pass...... (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=34527) -- Whirlwind, this time, does credit the aurthor; but he posts the entire text of the article without a link, and with no commentary.

Back to basics: Bush -vs- Hitler's "War on Terrorism." (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=34687) -- Whirlwind "forgets" to post a link, again, and attempts to pass it as his own work, again. In the real world this is known as plagiarism. Plagiarism is also a violation of the site rules.

Geore W. Bush's resume. (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=34516) -- Plagiarism again, and the full text, again. Not only that, but he posted this thread twice (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=34290). This is also a violation of the site rules. Plagiarism, full text, no link, and cross-posting.

Bush/Cheney siamese twins confess: Rice did it! (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=34515) -- Full text, again. No link, again. Plagiarism, again.

Bush: How Chicken Little became Chicken Hawk. (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=34350) -- Full text, again. No link, again. Plagiarism, again.

George W. Bush's Resume (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=34290) -- This is the same thread that I had closed before. Once again: Cross posting, plagiarism, full text, no link, etc.

The last two threads, titled Whirlwind (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=34235) and They kill men in wheel chairs, huh? (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=34236), are the same thread. That's cross posting, again.

By my count the following violations have occurred:
Five counts of plagiarism.
Five counts of posting the full text of an article.
Two counts of cross posting (Four threads).
Four counts of posting a thread with no commentary (I'm not counting the articles that he tried to pass as his own).
One count of goading/baiting.
One count of off-topic posting (This thread was originally started in Politics).
That's 18 violations of the New Forum Rules (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=34522).

The real question that everyone should be asking is why I haven't requested his banning yet.

-- The Grand Dragon Gizzard

That "post" wasn't the "thread" I saw. Wow, guess you got nothin' else to do this day, CC. Knock yourself out, why don't you.

Jackass? Did I call you a jackass, CC? Wee, me thinks someone here is wanting to take offense even if they have to create reasons. I got no explanation about the name spelling so all I can figure is that you made a mistake when signing up. Hmmm, so you have a been a bit hasty, CC. Looks like maybe "bit" is an understatement.

Plagiarism? Show me the proof like the originals and their disgruntled authors.

Full text? Is sciforums running low on space?

Cross posting? You mean that one little thing and the other you locked with no stated reason before it was restarted?

No commentary? Oh how despicable.

Goading/baiting? Of yourself, CC? Is this an unbiased judgement?

Hey, happy holiday.

The real question that everyone should be asking is why I haven't requested his banning yet.
-- The Grand Dragon Gizzard

Okay, Gizzard, why haven't you?



Mr. Chips,

This is the original Nazis Vs. Bush, that Whirlwind plagiarized. (http://c0balt.com/resources/terror/terror.shtml)

The "Resume" bit is common, but I believe this is the original. (http://mindprod.com/bushresume.html)

The old switcheroo, an aritcle written by Tom Engelhardt and plagiarized by Whirlwind. (http://progressivetrail.org/articles/040402Engelhardt.shtml)

I can't be certain that I have the original, but coincidentally enough, someone wrote the exact same thing as Whirlwind's "Chicken Little" spiel, over at Mideast Realities. (http://www.middleeast.org/forum/fb-public/1/2671.shtml)


That's four times Whirlwind copied what was and is obviously the work of other authors.


Oh, by the by, "disgruntled authors" isn't a requirement for 'plagiarism,' Mr. Chips.


However, you look at it, Whrilwind has broken the rules, even overridden a mod's edit, if I am to take Coffee at his word (and I will).

Mr. Chips,
That "post" wasn't the "thread" I saw. Wow, guess you got nothin' else to do this day, CC. Knock yourself out, why don't you.

That's right. This whole thing has been about an imaginary thread. Whirlwind didn't state this in his first post: "Grrrrrr, you deleted my post!" If there was a thread, then you would see a deleted thread marker, the same way that you can see deleted post markers.

Jackass? Did I call you a jackass, CC? Wee, me thinks someone here is wanting to take offense even if they have to create reasons. I got no explanation about the name spelling so all I can figure is that you made a mistake when signing up. Hmmm, so you have a been a bit hasty, CC. Looks like maybe "bit" is an understatement.

I said that you were insinuating that I was a jackass who couldn't spell. I said insinuating. Someone tell this man the meaning of insinuating. And my name is of little importance; I'll spell counselor however the fuck I want to.

On my three years at this forum, no one has mentioned how I've spelled my name. They've always read my arguments, paid attention to what I have too say, and respected me as a member and a moderator. All it takes is one unoriginal... Nevermind, you aren't worth the insult.

Plagiarism? Show me the proof like the originals and their disgruntled authors.

I believe that Rappaccini just did that for me. Thank you, Rappaccini.

Full text? Is sciforums running low on space?

Um, yes. This site cost money to run. Read the forum rules posted at the top of Religion, Politics, and World Events.

Cross posting? You mean that one little thing and the other you locked with no stated reason before it was restarted?

Each thread was started right after the other. I closed both because they offered no real discussion and had no redeeming value. Plus the fact that there were two of them.

No commentary? Oh how despicable.

Goofy and all other mods close threads for the same reasons.

Goading/baiting? Of yourself, CC? Is this an unbiased judgement?

Actually I did take it as baiting, I was going to leave it off the list until someone else on this forum pointed out that it was baiting to.

Rappaccini,
Okay, Gizzard, why haven't you?

Because I'm not a horrible oppressive Nazi mod. And thank you for posting the original works.

-- The Grand Dragon Gizzard

Okay, I stand corrected and better informed. As far as I can tell Whirlwind is responding to an alarming world condition with a fair amount of panic which makes it easier for him to be both rude and rule ignoring. It does seem that he is being met with some of the same but not near as much as I first thought from little knowledge. Still the thing about the "Waterloo" thread is not settled in my mind but I really don't care. I can trust that there is an explanation somewhere. I was under the impression that deleted posts and threads could be removed in such a way as to leave no marker. I really do think I saw a thread that disappeared but, heck, what's important.

It's really of no use attacking mods. In nearly every online forum or chatroom, the 'mods and administrators' group is very often a bit of an "in" clique that has a slight bit of disdain for others that develops from their gradual adjustment to the power they have and how they can abuse it.

But is that abuse of power wrong? No, it isn't. Reread the 'I agree' portion of the signup sheet again. The mods can move/delete/edit your posts without giving a reason. Technically, he doesn't even need to respond to you, Chip person and Whirlwind person.

Be grateful you're even getting a reply. No rule says they need to explain themselves. If you don't like it that way, then make your own damn forum, gather your own damn people, and begin paying it out of your own damn money.

-- Long live the Female Messiah!

Okay, as soon as I'm finished eating these razor blades...

Whirlwind responds....

Actually true, huh?

Hahahahahaha, I looked and the file is empty! look & you shall find, some of the so-called "lost" posts can be attributed to human error, yours in this case, you are just learning the system, why pretend that you are an expert poster here? :rolleyes:


But reading the responses from the Sciform Mad hatters I am not surprised.

This group (I have been to hundred's) acts like some immovable force created in some Alice-in-Wonderland Mad Hatter (deep thinkers :eek:) laboratory there at Sciform.com/land and all I can do it to let their COMMENTS roll of my back "like water off a ducks back."
mad hatters?, what, you just joined the forum & already you tire of us? what was your former "home"? hundred's? did you get kicked out or are you franchising at Sciforums?

Meanwhile, a special thanks to GOOFYFISH, for a foul smelling (clothes pin to nose) fellow who sez little but impresses MUCHO, I must say, you "show a lot of class." I am sure that you are not a cough-cough-cough pro-Israel zealot (like "someone" I know on Sciform) even if you smell like Gifilte soup.
why can't you just say 'thanks', or nothing, why the insult?

OK, Coffee clutch, you got away clean (this time :mad: ) and my post: "Fallujah, how do you spell W-A-T-E-R-L-O-O" is now lost in cyberspace, but don't be surprised if is reappears serendipitously and bites you in the arse one day!
name-calling, such a good start


Whirlwind....*

* "Read and grow wise or ignore me and die stupid!"
(Whirlwind has spoken).
sounds like a threat, what is your meaning?

look & you shall find, some of the so-called "lost" posts can be attributed to human error, yours in this case, you are just learning the system, why pretend that you are an expert poster here? :rolleyes: Hell, I still sometimes hit REport by accident when I mean to hit Reply.

I worry about a guy that has "Jesus" loving him all night long.

BTW: Why would you suggest someone get banned just because he has his post deleted without due justice?

Think about it...
Where you from, Israel or Rawanda?

Whirlwind
Hey, just stop copying peoples posts as if they are your words, without attributes. its better to just put a little of the quote, then give the link. you are a copy-cat, its illegal:
Example, from:
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=544060
Posted on 03-29-04, 03:52 AM

Re: How Chicken little became Chicken Hawk.

January 29, 2000

Today, I thought I’d start with a brief history lesson on the man who could be President - George W. Bush, Governor of Texas.

A couple of weeks ago, a listener phoned in regarding George W and his involvement in the Savings and Loan Scandal. I promised to do some research and see what I could uncover. Well, folks, I’ve done that and we did find some very incriminating evidence regarding Bush and the Silverado Savings & Loan scandal. However, that research dealt mostly with his brother Neil Bush. Neil’s involvement with Silverado is a different story - but he’s not running for president and George W is. So instead let’s discuss a series of business deals that George W made that may be even worse.


From:
http://www.middleeast.org/forum/fb-public/1/2671.shtml
topic by
rufas salcido
(36 posts)
Tombstone/AZ,
USA
3/9/2004 (02:48)
remove topic edit reply top
January 29, 2000

Today, I thought I’d start with a brief history lesson on the man who could be President - George W. Bush, Governor of Texas.

All from the appearently original source:
http://www.nobodyaskedme.com/monologues/012900mono.htm


hi Rufus!!
:rolleyes:

Whirlwind reminds me of another member. Do mods here have access to the vbulletin control panel? An IP match might be in order.

Stokes man.

Much as I love you, I have to ask....

Why do all of your posts read like Tom Clancy novels?

:p
Dee Cee