Americas latest act of barbarity

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Brian Foley, Jan 15, 2006.

  1. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    US intel sources must of been smoking Grade A Taliban opium again , because the US strike killed only innocent civilians again .

    This has a familiar pattern of deliberate US mass murder to it , remember that The Wedding Party Massacre in Afghanistan which came under massive US air attack ? Followed by an exact similar Wedding party massacre in Iraq that killed 40 . Each attack was said to be done to root out Al qaeda or insurgents . This case the US said they were after an Al Qaeda # 2 man .

    Thing was the Pakistanis say we didn't take out the second highest Al-Qaeda guy after all . I say what has transpired here is an atrocity by US servicemen and this is the cover up story again .
     
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  3. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    How the hell would they know if we got him or not? I'm sure they haven't recovered or identified all the bodies (some will be totally unidentifyable anyway) and the locals would say he wasn't there even if he was. Its the ass end of the world, filled to the brim with tribalism and islamist fanaticism.
     
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  5. QuarkMoon I Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, it's a sad story. The U.S. must stop blindly bombing civilians thinking that they are harboring terrorists. They have been wrong so many times so it looks like ignorant massacres. Pakistan is claiming that the U.S. was acting on incorrect intelligence, however keep in mind all the bodies haven't been identified yet. It could turn up that he was killed, but it doesn't excuse the deaths of women and children. The Bush Administration needs a new tactic, quick. Pakistan is a strong ally, we can't afford to lose them.
     
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  7. QuarkMoon I Registered Senior Member

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    It doesn't justify the deaths of children, which has been confirmed. Blindly bombing civilians to kill a single man is not the way to win this struggle.
     
  8. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    Oh, it would be totally worth it. Look at the old WW2 style of warfare. You sent every bomber you had over the biggest enemy you could find and firebomb every square inch of the place. Then you turn around and firebomb it again to make sure you didn't miss anything. Anything and everything to defeat and utterly crush the enemy, preventing them from ever bothering you again.

    Its war. People die. You try to find ways around killing civilians, but not so hard that you risk losing your own men. A military leader, if he wishes to win, must believe that one american soldier's life is worth a hundred non-american ones.
     
  9. crazy151drinker Registered Senior Member

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    Why are innocent civilians hanging around with the #2 man in Al-Queda?
     
  10. QuarkMoon I Registered Senior Member

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    As much as Bush supporters want it to be so, this is NOT World War II. Not even close. And what American soldiers were in danger in that remote village? Who did the children endanger? Blindly bombing civilians is a despicable act and is not justified, especially in this war.
     
  11. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    Were they ?
    And was he actually their ?
    Or maybe this is some bullshit con job to pull the wool over the eyes of people and cover up a deliberate atrocity ?
     
  12. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    What part of "faulty intelligence" do you not understand? If it's faulty intelligence then no innocent civilians were hanging around the #2 man of Al Qaeda which is why only innocent civilians were killed and which is why people are calling this another U.S. mass murder.

    Now hey, if all these bombings that have happened all to capture these heads of Al Qaeda resulted in the deaths of some actual Al Qaeda leaders, then those would be innocents hanging around bad guys so their deaths are excused, but so far we've been wrong every single time hence the bashing of all our mass murderous airstrikes.

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  13. Stokes Pennwalt Nuke them from orbit. Registered Senior Member

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  14. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    Wow, I didn't know we had drones that could operate off of pure artificial intelligence! That sounds about right though as the government/military is usually 25+ years ahead of everyone..

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  15. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    It was launched by servicemen from an airbase , and shadowed by military aircraft , guided by service men and its payload fired by servicemen .
     
  16. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    Its another argument they will use to distance themselves from this incident .
     
  17. QuarkMoon I Registered Senior Member

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    That some rogue AI fired the missles? LOL, how about this, I will send you $100 USD through Paypal if the U.S. uses that argument. Deal?
     
  18. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    No the missiles are manually targeted and fired from a base by people . The craft is just a delivery system .
     
  19. AmishRakeFight Remember, remember. Registered Senior Member

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    Conspiracy bores me.
     
  20. QuarkMoon I Registered Senior Member

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    Weak argument, I don't see the U.S. using it. The argument will most likely be that they thought the intelligence was reliable.
     
  21. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    No I believe this is a logical conclusion , in light of the LIE's told over Iraq .
    No its not a weak argument , this attack happened in Pakistan and Pakistan say that this man was not on their soil . Why didnt America act in conjunction with Pakistani intel on this , that would be the logical tactic , seeing this is inside Pakistan and Pakistan is an ally . The perpertrators of this attack would of known they were in Pakistan , the CIA was behind this so who were they bombing ?
     
  22. QuarkMoon I Registered Senior Member

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    Pakistan is not that close of an ally. The only other intelligence besides the CIA provided intelligence the U.S. will use is maybe the United Kingdom. Other than that, the U.S. will always use U.S. intelligence. And if the U.S. intelligence said he was there, they will act on it, faulty or not. That's why I'm so against blind bombing such as this. There is no way to be sure, and even if they were right, they took out children as well. That is never justified under any circumstances in my book.
     
  23. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    Says you , Pakistan is a close ally , Pakistan actively co-opearted with America in the invasion of Afghanisatn and was pivotal in the US supply to the Afghans during the Soviet invasion .
    Israel is a main factor in supplying the US .
     

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