Okay, as a Canadian I am officially becoming both offended and disgusted. Every time a Canadian hockey squad goes to the U.S. the Canadian anthem is booed by the American fans. And I don't mean a little boo, I mean a big huge boo. I mean a situation where I'd say 70% of Americans there are booing it. Now, the original comment by Canadians was 'well let's boo their's back'. And that was what a good 50% of us said. The rest came up with a better idea. We'll show that we have at least a little class and cheer their anthem. So Canadian fans have started loudly cheering the American anthem. Especially since the U.S. just killed four of our troops, this is really disgusting and dissapointing from a nation that use to speak of how much national pride it has. To think that a nation could be filled with so many people with no class, respect or even decency is filthy to me. And personally, when the Vancouver fans did it back that one game, it disgusted me equally. How does everyone feel about this?
I feel that a hockey arena, filled with people with no class, respect or even decency, is not a representative cross-section of my nation, or yours, as a whole. So why judge an entire country based on the actions of a few hockey "fans"? Peace.
Love your neighbor especially on the game field. Now I don't know about you, but I was taught to play nice as long as their wasn't part of the game that condoned pulling a jersey over ones head and bashing the poor fool with a stiff forearm. Why don't you just go skate as fast as you can into a wall. It has about the same effect I believe.
As there are no tonal or facial expressions to consider, the above statement could, in fact, be interpreted that way. If it was not your intent, then it's just a mix-up. Peace.
Pathetic eh. Like I said, Canucks fans did it with Detroits first game in Vancouver as retaliation. First two game in Detroit for Vancouver. First two games for Toronto Raptors in Detroit. All games on Long Island for Leafs. Senators games in Philly. And none of the games in Boston. What surprises me most is the Long Island ones. First two games they do it, it becomes a huge complaint, then the next game back they do it again. Now a morning talk show guy in T.O. and a guy in Detroit are having a war. The T.O. guy sent an e-mail because the Detroit guy said on air that it doesn't matter about booing the anthem. It demoralizes the other team, which is what fans are suppose to do, and it's not like Canada matters anyway. T.O. guy read the Detroit guys e-mail over the air and about 20,000 Torontonians (I hate that word) have phoned or e-mail the station, causing their website to crash. "Frankly, and I'm not just saying this because I'm American, you're seeing the actions of a small minority of assholes, getting in the papers because they are assholes. Murders are front page news, ja? Does this make murder common? No, it's relativly rare." That's a lot of fucking assholes if you ask me. I had yet to see something like this. As large a group of people as the 14,000 Americans in the stadiums for so many games is kind of disturbing to me. The fact that Wings fans have done it surprises me a lot too. You guys have had pro hockey as long as we have. And the Wings have been a great, professional organization over the years with heroes like Howe. "For the record, we've had Blue Jays fans boo our national anthem - in OUR FUCKING STADIUM" I maintain that baseball fans are losers, period. "Sports, all sports, can be a haven for losers who obsess about their favorite teams." Obsessing over a team is one thing, and something I'm okay with. Actually booing a country that aids you in trade, supports you in politics and is exactly north of you is a little more.
I really wish they wouldn't play anthems at sports games. Who the hell wants to listen to them, anyway?
And what's wrong with a friendly exchange of handshakes? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I like the anthem playing. Though, for hockey it's kind of out of place. There's more Russians than Yanks in the NHL. But they play the American anthem because the teams are in America. If they wanted to be real, they'd play Canadian, American, Russian, Swedish, Finnish and Czech. And in 10 years, the Swiss.
this could be the anthem of the USA (no irony, just my thoughts) Democracy It's coming through a hole in the air, from those nights in Tiananmen Square. It's coming from the feel that this ain't exactly real, or it's real, but it ain't exactly there. From the wars against disorder, from the sirens night and day, from the fires of the homeless, from the ashes of the gay: Democracy is coming to the U.S.A. It's coming through a crack in the wall; on a visionary flood of alcohol; from the staggering account of the Sermon on the Mount which I don't pretend to understand at all. It's coming from the silence on the dock of the bay, from the brave, the bold, the battered heart of Chevrolet: Democracy is coming to the U.S.A. It's coming from the sorrow in the street, the holy places where the races meet; from the homicidal bitchin' that goes down in every kitchen to determine who will serve and who will eat. From the wells of disappointment where the women kneel to pray for the grace of God in the desert here and the desert far away: Democracy is coming to the U.S.A. Sail on, sail on O mighty Ship of State! To the Shores of Need Past the Reefs of Greed Through the Squalls of Hate Sail on, sail on, sail on, sail on. It's coming to America first, the cradle of the best and of the worst. It's here they got the range and the machinery for change and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. It's here the family's broken and it's here the lonely say that the heart has got to open in a fundamental way: Democracy is coming to the U.S.A. It's coming from the women and the men. O baby, we'll be making love again. We'll be going down so deep the river's going to weep, and the mountain's going to shout Amen! It's coming like the tidal flood beneath the lunar sway, imperial, mysterious, in amorous array: Democracy is coming to the U.S.A. Sail on, sail on ... I'm sentimental, if you know what I mean I love the country but I can't stand the scene. And I'm neither left or right I'm just staying home tonight, getting lost in that hopeless little screen. But I'm stubborn as those garbage bags that Time cannot decay, I'm junk but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet: Democracy is coming to the U.S.A. © by Leonard Cohen
I find it rather obvious that a sport like hockey, which is basically just an excuse for brawls, is bound to lead to people acting aggressively and offensively. These are people who are paying money to see a bunch of people beat each other up with sticks, so to expect them to behave in a civilized manner would be ridiculous. If they weren't going to be aggressive and offensive, they wouldn't be there. If Blue Jays fans somewhere booed the anthem, it's likely because they were Maple Leaf fans in disguise, who just root for all Toronto teams on the side... as a large percentage of Jays fans are unfortunately. Although, those I've seen around at Jays games in Oakland, even including ones who had Canadian flags and were obviously of Canadian origin, weren't like that. Go Jays. (Even though we're in last.)
Yep, were all just sleezy classless ingrates!Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Dude, dont take it personal, it is - after all - just a game! I know every game Ive been to, I boo the other team. Thats the fun part!
Liek I said - booing a team is okey-dokey with me. Booing a nation? Showing disrespect to a nation like that? Consider this. The Americans go to the Olympics in Turin. In Turin an American wins gold. As his flag is raised and the anthem plays, the people in Turin boo your anthem. How would you feel? "I find it rather obvious that a sport like hockey, which is basically just an excuse for brawls, is bound to lead to people acting aggressively and offensively. These are people who are paying money to see a bunch of people beat each other up with sticks, so to expect them to behave in a civilized manner would be ridiculous. If they weren't going to be aggressive and offensive, they wouldn't be there." Aw, a low shot Hoth. Hockey, to people who haven't played the game, can appear as an excuse for rough-and-tough. In fact, it's largely the exact opposite. In Canada and the U.S. junior or semi-pro ranks there are lots of fights. In the rest of the world, the concentration is PURELY skill and finesse. I play a tough game myself, but that doesn't mean I get in fights gamely. I hit hard, play hard and play fast. Hockey is the fastest game on earth, and in my opinion, the best! Baseball I can't even classify as a sport. Any activity where you literally spend most of the time doing nothing, is not a sport. It's a game. Though a fun game to play, I'll admitt. "If Blue Jays fans somewhere booed the anthem, it's likely because they were Maple Leaf fans in disguise, who just root for all Toronto teams on the side... as a large percentage of Jays fans are unfortunately. Although, those I've seen around at Jays games in Oakland, even including ones who had Canadian flags and were obviously of Canadian origin, weren't like that. Go Jays. (Even though we're in last.)" What Jays fans? They have fans? Hockey fans truly don't care about baseball here. We have the best lacrosse team 4 years running and a hockey team which is always good and fun to watch. Jay fans are probably just Argo fans who are too depressed because the Argoes suck now.
While I don't know diddly about hockey, I think it a shame that either teams fans should do such. That is not exactly team spirit nor does it reflect anything good about the fans. It has been a problem with rowdy fans in Europe, forever it seems. (soccer) Unruly crowds have toppled spectator stands (with the spectators on them) and it seems that there are those who go to the games with the sole purpose of creating mayhem. It is a sad reflection upon those teams who encourage such behaviour. That is not sport. It become bad enough in the American Football that new rules were instituded that penalized the team that the fans were in favor of. Maybe it is time for such to be implented in Hockey.
I have a solution Stop watching baseball and hocky and start playing Aussie RulesPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! The you can see how good we are and chear our notional anthemPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
But .... Aussie Rules Football? You mean this Aussie Rules Football? I'll pass, for the obvious reasons. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!, Tiassa Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
In the Vancouver games it was only a couple dozen fans, by the end of the Anthems' all of the cheering had drowned that out because most people who aren't drunken or rowder understand that booing is an extremely childish behavior. Personally, I don't really care it's just the timing that bothers me... As well, Hockey is not an excuse to have brawls and that's just a very uneducated comment to make. Out of the nearly 2000 games played in the NHL this year I can't think of one single 'brawl'. It's a sport where skill and finesse is encouraged and thats why they always send the guys with the most points too the olympics and not the guys with the most penalty minutes... while the booing doesn't bother me, this kind of does... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- New York mob torched anthem singer's Maple Leaf Bruce Arthur National Post Days after being cheered as he sang the Canadian and American anthems before an NHL playoff game in Toronto, Robert Pomakov watched, horrified, as unruly New York hockey fans burned his Canadian flag in the parking lot of Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum. Mr. Pomakov, an opera singer, saw both his Canadian and his Toronto Maple Leaf flags torn from his car and set on fire by a crowd chanting "U.S.A! U.S.A!" in the moments before Sunday's Game 6 between the Leafs and the New York Islanders. "We lost four of our soldiers and they were basically defending these idiots," said an outraged Mr. Pomakov. "If patriotism is what drives these people and their ignorance, then I am ashamed to have our soldiers defending them." Four Canadian soldiers were killed in Afghanistan on April 18 when a U.S. fighter plane mistakenly bombed them. Mr. Pomakov, 21, is working on his masters of opera degree at the world-renowned Curtis Institute of Music in Philadelphia, from where he drove to Long Island for Sunday's game at the Coliseum, which is named in honour of U.S. war veterans. He and fellow Torontonian Patrick Magee, also 21, decked themselves in Team Canada and Leafs jerseys and attached one regular-size Canadian flag and one Maple Leafs flag to broomsticks on their rental car. After being heckled as they pulled into the parking lot before the game, they could only look on as both flags were set alight. "I was just shocked," he said. "There's a line that needs to be drawn, and this was so far across. You can't believe that you're watching the Canadian flag burn. "There wasn't much we could do. There were a lot more of them than there were of us." Mr. Pomakov felt the Americans' treatment of the Canadian flag was disgraceful. Mr. Pomakov said the flags incident has not soured him on life in the United States. Still, he was pleased to see Toronto's Game 7 win on Tuesday, which set up a second-round Battle of Ontario series with the Ottawa Senators that begins tonight in Toronto. Whatever the feelings of Torontonians toward the seat of federal government, or of Ottawans toward the seat of national commerce, the anthem is quite unlikely to be booed during the series. ------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
