American Jew wins Arab "Nobel" Prize

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  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1078687.html
     
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  3. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    "Throw the Jew a bone" does beat "throw the Jew in a well", I admit. As a visitor. Now let him get a Saudi citizenship.

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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Sometimes a Jew is just a Jew.
     
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  7. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    out of interest, what did he actually win the award FOR?
    i mean not to get in the way of a venom spitting match waiting to happen but the prize is for med, not for religion
     
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  8. Aerika Registered Senior Member

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    Why couldn't he just be Ronald Levy, a scientist and researcher from Stanford.
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The Haaretz did not specify. Wait I'll look it up.

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    http://news.stanford.edu/news/2009/april8/med-levy-040809.html



    Btw, I find it offensive that treating a Jewish American no different from anyone else is interpreted as "throw the Jew a bone". I've never once heard an antisemitic comment from a Saudi in the almost five years I lived there. Now "throw the Jew a bone" is an antisemitic comment to me.
     
  10. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Sure. Now get one in there as a citizen, and let him talk about Judaism in public, and see what the pundits of officialdom have to say about it.

    Asguard, there's no venom-spitting match to be had.
     
  11. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Clearly, one must talk about Judaism before recognising the accomplishments of Jews. Can't possibly treat them like everyone else. I mean, he couldn't possibly have been recognised for his work.
     
  12. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Heh. Nice backwards criticism of liberal process. A bit transparent, if you ask me.

    Anyway, again: let him hold up a Star of David as a citizen in downtown Riyadh, and see who the first to "recognise" him for being Jewish is.
     
  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Its called missing the point.

    He was not recognised for being a Jew.
     
  14. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    sure, this is about his work rather than his religion right

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    Thats aimed at BOTH of you
     
  15. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    You don't miss the fact that he was the first Jew ever to be so recognized by a country with kind of a long-standing dislike of them? (Call it their officials if you prefer.) That's news. Obama has been recognized similarly as being the first African-American president.
     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    He's the fist Jew to win the award in 30 years. Thats a point of pride for Jews but its not relevant to the Saudis. After all, they still omitted his Israeli post-doc from the resume published on the Prize website.

    I just think its an interesting insight into the way Arabs think. They appreciate the work and give the credit even if they have issues with the ideology. As a "hindi" with five years work experience [and several certificates of recognition from the Ministry], I can attest to that.
     
  17. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    A bit of both, Asguard. He's the first Jew to be recognized for his work by the Saudis. That's news. :shrug: I don't expect it as a real liberalization - again, let him apply for citizenship and see what happens - but as a media ploy. Then again, I'm a cynic.
     
  18. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    :shrug: Most people think the same way, if they're fair-minded. Are you saying that the Saudis are representative of all Arabs when they give fair credit, but not when they practice religious discrimination? That's a bit hypocritical.
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I'm saying that you don't perform pogroms on people you appreciate and credit. Its why there have never been Arab pogroms. Its against their basic mindset. They are not jealous of other people's achievements and never take credit for other people's works.
     
  20. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    HAW! Funny.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom

    Palestine, 1917, 1929, and on and on. Plenty of historical examples too.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farhud

    Shall this discussion be a pointless one also?
     
  21. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Like I said, they don't have pogroms and don't kill people for ethnicity or religion.

    All their major wars are political.

    I'd look more closely at that hasbara if I were you.
     
  23. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Wow. That is some amazing cognitive dissonance.

    "Major wars" related to your assertion how, exactly?

    Maybe you could start instead with reading some of the links.

    Ah well.
     

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