Prior to my posting this I contemplated what I will propose in this intended question. Not to be confusing, but Im seeking an answer that I dont know exactly how to ask. I know that this forum is filled with many qualified intellectuals that can readjust my attention to the realties before me if I propose a question in the right way. So this is basically whats been going through my mind. Even though I do dont follow the news/stocks/war/economic projections for America thoroughly I feel that America is on a downward spiral. Rising gas prices, continuation of war, natural disasters, weakening dollar over ambitious budget for Homeland security etc. I believe that America is so in debt and over ambitious that we've finally bitten off more than we can chew. I believe that America will soon lose its footing as the worlds sole super power. I have no concrete evidence to support my theory nor do I even have much of a basis to say what I'm saying but I know somebody out there can either support my theory or refute it. If this is the case what should be recommended for the American attempting to survive its projected downfall and actually benefit from or help prevent its downfall.

i hope not if american falls it's bringing evryone with it.

i hope now if american falls it's bringing evryone with it.

It will because all countries are linked together, when America sneezes the

rest catch the flu! The biggest problem is that only the little guys get hurt

the most, the rich never get hurt. :mad:

plus if america falls who is gona pick up the slack the E.U? but i wonder who would pick up the slack tho

plus if america falls who is gona pick up the slack the E.U? but i wonder who would pick up the slack tho

The EU will be better off I'd think.

hmm i'm not sure but it would be nice not to have america thinking it can police the world.

hmm i'm not sure but it would be nice not to have america thinking it can police the world.

But then the EU will just get into the same predicament because there's

always going to be problems happening. The EU will have to cope with more

problems than there are today in the future so think about that.

Even though I do dont follow the news/stocks/war/economic projections for America thoroughly I feel that America is on a downward spiral. Rising gas prices, continuation of war, natural disasters, weakening dollar over ambitious budget for Homeland security etc. I believe that America is so in debt and over ambitious that we've finally bitten off more than we can chew. I believe that America will soon lose its footing as the worlds sole super power. I have no concrete evidence to support my theory nor do I even have much of a basis to say what I'm saying but I know somebody out there can either support my theory or refute it.
Consider it refuted.
If this is the case what should be recommended for the American attempting to survive its projected downfall and actually benefit from or help prevent its downfall.
Embrace rationality.

Life on this planet is neither fair, just, nor adequately defended against harm by what you feel you believe.

Life is a down-in-the-dirt competition for survival and you're a very real part of the food chain.

There's what you believe could kill you and there's what really can.

Why are you worrying about what you believe could kill you instead of doing what should be done to actually save your from what really will kill you?

But then the EU will just get into the same predicament because there's

always going to be problems happening. The EU will have to cope with more

problems than there are today in the future so think about that.

however the E.u is many countries and never go to war an di dout that they would get involved aswell...plus america goes to war for it's own benifit know one else.

plus if america falls who is gona pick up the slack the E.U?
You mean the ungainly agglomeration that couldn't even manage to build an airplane on time ?

Rotsa Ruck !

:D

however the E.u is many countries and never go to war an di dout that they would get involved aswell...plus america goes to war for it's own benifit know one else.
America's downfall will come from waging war for other than its own benefit.

When America's self-interests coincide with the self-interests of its friends, "Hey, why not?"

When it doesn't we watch our friends lay in the beds they've made for themselves and thank them for not begging us like little girls to save their bacon for them just one more time.

After all, the "E.u." doesn't go to war, doesn't get involved, for its own benefit and no one else.

Why can't America adopt the similar rationale?

America's downfall will come from waging war for other than its own benefit.

When America's self-interests coincide with the self-interests of its friends, "Hey, why not?"

When it doesn't we watch our friends lay in the beds they've made for themselves and thank them for not begging us like little girls to save their bacon for them just one more time.

After all, the "E.u." doesn't go to war, doesn't get involved, for its own benefit and no one else.

Why can't America adopt the similar rationale?

Good question, I don't think any european country, other than the UK has been targeted or bombed by Al Qaeda, It's waging war for its own benefit though, just that the whole nation doesn't get to benefit.

In response to the OP though, The USA's downfall lies in the middle east, ATM, while it still has allies there,(turkey and Saudi Arabia), When enough threats and bombing is done, they'll lose that sympathy.

Good question, I don't think any european country, other than the UK has been targeted or bombed by Al Qaeda,

Unfortunately for Spain, Turkey and France, what you think doesn't correspond to what's actually happened.

Unfortunately for Spain, Turkey and France, what you think doesn't correspond to what's actually happened.

And what was common in All of those countries ? , all of them were at one time or the other involved in invading other countries, France and Algiers, Spain and Iraq, (spain did go to Iraq btw) So you can't say that these countries were truly innocent. Unlike countries such as Germany and Italy. I think that terrorism, corresponds to sending troops to invade a country....

America's downfall will come from waging war for other than its own benefit.

When America's self-interests coincide with the self-interests of its friends, "Hey, why not?"

When it doesn't we watch our friends lay in the beds they've made for themselves and thank them for not begging us like little girls to save their bacon for them just one more time.

After all, the "E.u." doesn't go to war, doesn't get involved, for its own benefit and no one else.

Why can't America adopt the similar rationale?

America goes to war because that is what we are good at. China is for slave labor and America is for mercenary work. Someone wanted the Mideastern oil under corporate control which is why our soldiers are there. Following the logic of the Saudi 911 hijackers, to chasing a former CIA agent who happens to have close family ties to President Bush, to deposing Saddam to free Iraqis just proves how deep and smelly the crap we're being fed is. Wars have always been about power and money. This one is no different.

As for the US going down, I think it will go down like the phoenix and come back as the North American Union. A few eggs will be broke in that omlette. Certainly some gun nuts will fight and die to low level law enforcement. Too many wealthy people seem to have that on their bucket list for it not to happen soon. I think the cover story will be the US can't get more money to borrow so interest rates will go up up and away for government and personal loans. At the same time the dollar will continue to fall in value. That one two punch will blow millions of people out of the water financially. When the Amero comes we may welcome it with open arms. Will anyone remember which people voted for the expensive stuff which bankrupted America? Do they recall how Rome went bust? Do they realize we can print our own money and nationalize everything and start with a clean slate?

That and a dollar or so might get you a cup of coffee.:shrug:

however the E.u is many countries and never go to war an di dout that they would get involved aswell...plus america goes to war for it's own benifit know one else.

The countries that make up the EU will have to decide to fight for their

rights just as America has done. The countries of the EU have fought in

wars before and some of them are involved in wars today. If the EU is

threatened I'd think they would have to stand up for themselves just as

America does now.

And what was common in All of those countries ? , all of them were at one time or the other involved in invading other countries, France and Algiers, Spain and Iraq, (spain did go to Iraq btw) So you can't say that these countries were truly innocent.

So, if you ever invade any other country, it's okay for people to indiscriminantly butcher your civilians?


Unlike countries such as Germany and Italy.

You think Germany and Italy are "completely innocent?" Funny, I could have sworn that both of them have invaded other countries. For example, Italy participated in the invasion of Iraq. Both of them participated in Afghanistan.

America has been hijacked by Religious Redneck Retards. It started thirty years ago when the "born-again" revival began spreading like cancer. Americans as a people have become less rational and downright hostile to science.

Fundamentalist Abrahamic dogma invariably drags a country down. It's anathema to civilization because it reinforces our tribal instincts. Look what the Islamic fundamentalists are doing to the Middle East.

America is doomed unless the pendulum swings back to secularism very quickly. I'm glad I'm too old to worry about what life will be like here in thirty years. If I were younger I'd emigrate.

I'm glad I'm too old to worry about what life will be like here in thirty years. If I were younger I'd emigrate.

Ahh, Fraggle, I see that my cynism has rubbed off on you and forced your ever-glowing optimism to retreat in horror. Good for you!

Humans suck. And worse, humans lie about it!

Baron Max

As long as the USD keeps falling so I can buy more high end stuff more cheaply in the USA I won't complain.

By the way, I read this BBC article today: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7070935.stm
I think it's somewhat relevant to this discussion.

A wave of foreclosures and evictions is about to sweep the United States in the wake of the sub-prime mortgage lending crisis.

This could destabilise the US housing market and may also lead to further turmoil in financial institutions, who collectively own $1 trillion (£480.6bn) worth of sub-prime debt.

Families all over the country continue to lose homes in record numbers, stripping families of their wealth and destroying entire neighbourhoods
Michael J Calhoun
Center for Responsible Lending

So, if you ever invade any other country, it's okay for people to indiscriminantly butcher your civilians? I don't think the butchery is indiscriminate - any more than the butchery of your invasion was, anyway.
Humans suck. And worse, humans lie about it! If humans sucked, they wouldn't have to lie.

By the way, I read this BBC article today: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7070935.stm
I think it's somewhat relevant to this discussion.



Families all over the country continue to lose homes in record numbers, stripping families of their wealth and destroying entire neighbourhoods
Michael J Calhoun
Center for Responsible Lending

First you should know what this quote from the headline means:

A wave of foreclosures and evictions is about to sweep the United States in the wake of the sub-prime mortgage lending crisis.

here it is:http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=define:subprime&spell=1

Ahh, Fraggle, I see that my cynism has rubbed off on you and forced your ever-glowing optimism to retreat in horror. Good for you!I've always been a cynic. One of my teachers in eighth grade had to explain the word to me because he kept calling me that. But I'm only cynical on a local level, both spatially and temporally. I thought America was a really nice place when the Baby Boomers started taking over, up through the 1980s. Then the Clinton administration put a secular, intellectual veneer over the religious ugliness that was sweeping across the country, and living in cosmopolitan L.A. among so many immigrants who weren't thoroughly Americanized made it easy to not realize that the tide was turning back everywhere else.

But I am not pessimistic about civilization in general. America may be about to join the Former World Powers Gentlemen's Club with Persia, Greece, Rome, Turkey, Spain, France, Germany, England, and Russia, but as our star sets others will rise. The world keeps getting better. Not monotonically, but the net progress over the ages has always ultimately been positive.Humans suck. And worse, humans lie about it!I've gathered some really fabulous humans around me over the years. I'm sorry if you haven't.

The demise of the U.S. is greatly exaggerated. As a percentage of GDP, our national debt is manageable. Islam is a miniscule threat to our sovereignty. America adjusts well to change. We also have a growing population, unlike the E.U. You Chicken Littles out there have nothing to fear but fear itself.

Prior to my posting this I contemplated what I will propose in this intended question. Not to be confusing, but Im seeking an answer that I dont know exactly how to ask. I know that this forum is filled with many qualified intellectuals that can readjust my attention to the realties before me if I propose a question in the right way. So this is basically whats been going through my mind. Even though I do dont follow the news/stocks/war/economic projections for America thoroughly I feel that America is on a downward spiral. Rising gas prices, continuation of war, natural disasters, weakening dollar over ambitious budget for Homeland security etc. I believe that America is so in debt and over ambitious that we've finally bitten off more than we can chew. I believe that America will soon lose its footing as the worlds sole super power. I have no concrete evidence to support my theory nor do I even have much of a basis to say what I'm saying but I know somebody out there can either support my theory or refute it. If this is the case what should be recommended for the American attempting to survive its projected downfall and actually benefit from or help prevent its downfall.The world is better without a single superpower or in this case hyper power.

America will not "fall" as in "collapse" but we will not retain the title of hyper power past the middle of this century. Europe, Japan, Russia, China and the USA will all balance each one another.

The USA has the most fresh water, the most arable land, access to the Pacific and the Atlantic oceans, a strong democratic traditions, very strong insitutions, hard work ethic, we are the most advanced in almost all fields of endeavor, we make 80% of what we consume, we have very strong scholastic institutions, lots of lands available, etc etc etc... so no the USA is not doing to "fall" but yes we will be balanced out - which I think is a good thing.

The peak oil phenomenon will affect everyone, but the US the most, since we have built most of our society on a plan with no future - suburbia. That's why we got involved in oil producing regions, which is why we are in debt (mostly to China). Who knows if this Democracy will survive the coming crisis, we certainly aren't prepared for it.

The world is better without a single superpower or in this case hyper power.

Debatable. I'm certainly not convinced that the Cold War was a better state of affairs than we have today, nor am I convinced that the colonial era that preceded it was, either.

Europe, Japan, Russia, China and the USA will all balance each one another.

Replace Europe, Russia and Japan with India, Indonesia and Brazil and you'll be on the right track. Europe, Russia and Japan are all home to aging, shrinking populations. Barring some radical changes, they're not going to show enough growth and dynamism to keep up with America.


The USA has the most fresh water, the most arable land, access to the Pacific and the Atlantic oceans, a strong democratic traditions, very strong insitutions, hard work ethic, we are the most advanced in almost all fields of endeavor, we make 80% of what we consume, we have very strong scholastic institutions, lots of lands available, etc etc etc...

No, there are many countries with more fresh water than the United States. China, Russia and just about every large tropical country, for example. Also, unlike most developed countries, America still enjoys a growing population.

I thought that the great lakes were the largest fresh water supply. The Mississippi is like a modern day Nile river?

I wonder how the USA combining with Canada and (maybe) Mexico into even more of a semi-Union will benefit the USA?

I thought that the great lakes were the largest fresh water supply.

Probably depends on how you count; the best way is *renewable* fresh water supply, which wouldn't include standing bodies of water.


The Mississippi is like a modern day Nile river?

So is the Amazon.


I wonder how the USA combining with Canada and (maybe) Mexico into even more of a semi-Union will benefit the USA?

Depends on what kind of semi-Union you have in mind. NAFTA should give you a pretty good idea. And I'd add that the propsect of anything resembling a North American Union in the EU sense is slim-to-none.

Well, I suppose, no one can predict the future BUT I don't think there is going to be some earth shattering collapse of the USA dragging the rest of civilization down with it. I expect the USA to remain at the top but other countries to catch up. Right now the USA is almost like a huge Roma (in my mind) with many countries far far behind. Europe is like Greece, once powerful, still influential but a little dusty. China and Brazil and India are way behind but gaining ground fast. Once they reach a higher level, say 2050-2100, then the world will be more balanced. Perhaps the USA will still be top, but we probably will not be the hyperpower we are now.

Michael

meh every nation has it's day it will be someone elses turn soon.

I thought that the great lakes were the largest fresh water supply. The Mississippi is like a modern day Nile river?

I wonder how the USA combining with Canada and (maybe) Mexico into even more of a semi-Union will benefit the USA?

Cut-throat capitalism, more $$$ for the U.S. Even though it will probably not benifit the other countries.

meh every nation has it's day it will be someone elses turn soon.

The USSR is coming back?! Awesome! Time to party like a communist! :spank:

Well, I suppose, no one can predict the future BUT I don't think there is going to be some earth shattering collapse of the USA dragging the rest of civilization down with it. I expect the USA to remain at the top but other countries to catch up. Right now the USA is almost like a huge Roma (in my mind) with many countries far far behind. Europe is like Greece, once powerful, still influential but a little dusty. China and Brazil and India are way behind but gaining ground fast. Once they reach a higher level, say 2050-2100, then the world will be more balanced. Perhaps the USA will still be top, but we probably will not be the hyperpower we are now.

Michael

Yea but greece had the spartans! :P

I thought that the great lakes were the largest fresh water supply IIRC Lake Baikal holds more water than the Great Lakes together - certainly more than any two or three of them.

The Amazon River is in a class by itself as well. If the general estimates one runs into are accurate, the Amazon basin rivers and Baikal between them hold almost half the world's liquid fresh water.

The US is approaching a serious problem with its water supply - much of the country is dry, almost none of it is really wet, and the aquifers currently supporting the western cities and agriculture are depleting rapidly. The agricultural surplus that is the US single biggest advantage in foreign trade depends on depleting aquifers.

IIRC Lake Baikal holds more water than the Great Lakes together - certainly more than any two or three of them.

The Amazon River is in a class by itself as well. If the general estimates one runs into are accurate, the Amazon basin rivers and Baikal between them hold almost half the world's liquid fresh water.

The US is approaching a serious problem with its water supply - much of the country is dry, almost none of it is really wet, and the aquifers currently supporting the western cities and agriculture are depleting rapidly. The agricultural surplus that is the US single biggest advantage in foreign trade depends on depleting aquifers.

Simple, like gas, the US will start to depend on even more foreign exports.

Yea but greece had the spartans! :PYes, but boy did they hit rock bottom. I remember reading about a Roman general, Gaius Marius maybe? or maybe it was Senator? Yes, a Senator I think, anyway whomever was wanting to make a name for themselves and gain a bit of glory and so they devised this millitary campaign in the ME and as part of the show stopped by Sparta. I think the target was the Parthian Empire? Well anyway, the point is they stopped in Sparta as part of a propaganda campaign to gather a few Spartans and make the trip look a little more spectacular and all that remained in Sparta was a pathetic bunch of half-inbred sickly family dynasties. The once mighty Spartans had inbred themselves into pretty much oblivion. At least according to what I had read. The Romans were shocked to say the least as they revered Spartans in much the same way we think of them, so still needing that propaganda, they gathered up the best of the lot and put them in charge of pretty much nothing and continued on to the ME...

true but what you have got to remember is sparta wasent as powerful as it was when the romans came... and there reputation had already been shatterd to thebes... so rome dident have it tht hard beating an already weakend city.

IIRC Lake Baikal holds more water than the Great Lakes together - certainly more than any two or three of them. That's interesting.

You know, I like Putin for some reason, smart guy - unlike our complete moronic joke of a president. I can hear Bush now. Jesus would want natures goodness shared with the environment and oil is good to them swimy aminials too, plus Cheney said we are saving the Americans tax payer trillions.

Russian state company Transneft[13] was planning to build a trunk pipeline that would have come within 800 meters (2,620 ft) of the lake shore in a zone of substantial seismic activity. Environmental activists in Russia,[14] Greenpeace,[15] Baikal pipeline opposition[16] and local citizens[17] were strongly opposed to these plans due to the possibility of an accidental oil spill that might cause significant damage to the environment. According to the Transneft's president, numerous meetings with ordinary citizens were held in towns along the route, especially in Irkutsk.[18] However, it was not until Russian president Vladimir Putin ordered the company to consider an alternative route 40 kilometers (25 mi) to the north to avoid such ecological risks that Transneft agreed to alter its plans.[19] Transneft has since decided to move the pipeline away from Lake Baikal so that it will not pass through any federal or republic natural reserves.[20][21]

I wonder if Putin can run for President of the USA?

hehe....

Easy the U.S. fell from two things.

Feminism - Instead of 1 salary and 1 job. You now need 2 salaries and 2 jobs for a successful household. It is very very hard to become self-dependent on 1 job.

Immigration over abuse - The United States didn't take into account that a country has a limit to the amount of population growth one can withstand. (Borders should be closed completely and not reopened until awhile.)

Actually the third reason

Real Estate - The television brainwashed everyone into buying houses just to resell for profit. (This act should be made illegal immediately)

Feminism - Instead of 1 salary and 1 job. You now need 2 salaries and 2 jobs for a successful household. It is very very hard to become self-dependent on 1 job.


Actually, that might be inflation and simply the fact that Americans are trying to spend more money in each new generation. For example: expensive insurance, larger homes, expensive luxuries, and are mostly losing money management skills.

Immigration over abuse - The United States didn't take into account that a country has a limit to the amount of population growth one can withstand. (Borders should be closed completely and not reopened until awhile.)

Please tell me you are kidding, unless you are a conservative. I would welcome immigrants more than our own people because they are what Americans aren't. Many of them are hard-working and a lot more disiplined than people from America.

So, if you ever invade any other country, it's okay for people to indiscriminantly butcher your civilians?

It's not okay , but you can't stand around and say, O why would they do that to us ? Here's an Idea,why not stop giving them reasons to ? Perhaps we should stop Butchering them first ? .


You think Germany and Italy are "completely innocent?" Funny, I could have sworn that both of them have invaded other countries. For example, Italy participated in the invasion of Iraq. Both of them participated in Afghanistan.

Ok ,So Italy is a bad example, Germany still stands, They didn't invade Iraq, which was illegal, Afghanistan was supported by the UN as it was recognized as the home of the Taliban.

Perhaps we should stop Butchering them first ?

Funny, I don't seem to recall us butchering any Saudis and Egyptians. In fact, we've done nothing but pour cash into their countries for decades now. If there'd been some Iraqis in the planes, you might have had a point...

For further counterexamples to your theory of terrorist attacks being caused by invasions, consider Morrocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Kenya, Tanzania, Pakistan and Indonesia.


Ok ,So Italy is a bad example, Germany still stands, They didn't invade Iraq, which was illegal, Afghanistan was supported by the UN as it was recognized as the home of the Taliban.

Do you seriously think that Al Qaeda, who are based in Afghanistan, share this line of thinking? Let's also recall that the only Muslim countries America had sent troops to prior to 9/11 were all carried out with UN authorization.

Germany's position is related to its long-standing policy of not cracking down on terrorists provided they weren't attacking Germany. The result is that they're invaluable as a base from which to plan and launch attacks from inside the west. Most of the logistics and planning for 9/11 were carried out there, for example.

Please tell me you are kidding, unless you are a conservative. I would welcome immigrants more than our own people because they are what Americans aren't. Many of them are hard-working and a lot more disiplined than people from America.

So your saying Americans are lazy?

And plus everything has it's limits.

If your going to have a party. You need to know the amount of guests your having in order to know how much food you need. You don't buy one dozen hot dogs and then invite the whole neighborhood. Everyone's going to be starving to death.

I think immigration is fine and in the USA it's more assimilation then melting-pot so it really doesn't matter. Definitely Asians add value :) Plus Asians are cute :D

In general Americans are very hard working people.

The Iraq war is going to have some long term effects on the USA in terms of money. We wasted a lot of it and didn't get much. Actually, money doesn't just disappear, it changes hands. I'd really like to know where that money went to, Cheney, because it certainly didn't go into "rebuilding" Iraq, Cheney, one crater at a time, and I wonder if any, Cheney, of Cheney's buddies ayt Halliburton got a peace of that? Probably, now that Hallif*ck is in UAE, UAE is going to be getting the f*cking mother load of money... ...

Anyway, a country can not piss away such a large amount of money and piss off such a large percentage of the World and expect to walk away without some ill affects. History may look back at Junior as the downward turning point in American hyperdom.

I think immigration is fine and in the USA it's more assimilation then melting-pot so it really doesn't matter. Definitely Asians add value :) Plus Asians are cute :D

In general Americans are very hard working people.

Did you not get the analogy I gave out.
It's common sense.

There's a limit to the amount of people a country can comfortably take in. No matter how great a country is, a country can still fall from over population. A country has to have time to grow with it's population.

The Iraq war is going to have some long term effects on the USA in terms of money. We wasted a lot of it and didn't get much. Actually, money doesn't just disappear, it changes hands. I'd really like to know where that money went to, Cheney, because it certainly didn't go into "rebuilding" Iraq, Cheney, one crater at a time, and I wonder if any, Cheney, of Cheney's buddies ayt Halliburton got a peace of that? Probably, now that Hallif*ck is in UAE, UAE is going to be getting the f*cking mother load of money... ...

Anyway, a country can not piss away such a large amount of money and piss off such a large percentage of the World and expect to walk away without some ill affects. History may look back at Junior as the downward turning point in American hyperdom.

I don't think the money went anywhere special. It just shotgunned out. I think its the added debt that was the reason for all the spending. Someone wants high debt and all the problems its bound to create. Perhaps so they can propose an agreeable solution... Just like 911?

Funny, I don't seem to recall us butchering any Saudis and Egyptians. In fact, we've done nothing but pour cash into their countries for decades now. If there'd been some Iraqis in the planes, you might have had a point...

For further counterexamples to your theory of terrorist attacks being caused by invasions, consider Morrocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Kenya, Tanzania, Pakistan and Indonesia.



Do you seriously think that Al Qaeda, who are based in Afghanistan, share this line of thinking? Let's also recall that the only Muslim countries America had sent troops to prior to 9/11 were all carried out with UN authorization.

Germany's position is related to its long-standing policy of not cracking down on terrorists provided they weren't attacking Germany. The result is that they're invaluable as a base from which to plan and launch attacks from inside the west. Most of the logistics and planning for 9/11 were carried out there, for example.

Al qaeda, wouldn't care about UN sanctions, the fact is often those sanctions/resolutions are pushed for by the US, I didn't say that the terrorists themselves had to be from the country of origin.Invasion need not be the only cause but it's a biggie as far as causes go. Al qaeda may have considered the basement of US troops in Saudi Arabia as an invasion (these are terrorists, you can't reason.)


Germany's position is related to its long-standing policy of not cracking down on terrorists provided they weren't attacking Germany.

We all should share this policy.