America Is A One Party System

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Anarcho Union, Dec 17, 2010.

  1. Anarcho Union No Gods No Masters Registered Senior Member

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    All we have here is, in all honesty, The Capitalist and Fascist Party. Weather republican, democrat, liberal, or conservative every politician is a capitalist and a fascist.
     
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  3. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    One can be a capitalist without being a fascist. They are not the same. And we do have a two party system not a one party system. And one of those two parties is much more accomodative to special interest powers (e.g. Republican) than the other.
     
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  5. Anarcho Union No Gods No Masters Registered Senior Member

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    But the fact is both partys are capitalist, support military power (even if the liberals claim otherwise) ect ect. This to me, looks like one big party.
     
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  7. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I agree with you, it is a one government system with two wings, left and right , controlling it.
     
  8. Anarcho Union No Gods No Masters Registered Senior Member

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    Both oppressing us. This doesnt sound like democracy to me.
     
  9. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Actually taxes are very neccessary to have but what they are used for is the problem Congress seems to be forgetting about. You would agree that taxes are needed wouldn't you? Now all we need do is just get those in Congress to stop spending taxes on the pork and start cutting taxes that aren't supposed to be there and we should see improvements.
     
  10. Anarcho Union No Gods No Masters Registered Senior Member

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    With a capitalist state run econamy, yes. Or in state-socialism. However, i dont believe in a state. thus, i do not believe in taxes.
     
  11. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Then how do you propose to run a government, things must be done like repair bridges and roadways for example.
     
  12. Anarcho Union No Gods No Masters Registered Senior Member

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    Mutual aid and communal living.
    For example, lets say theres community A, B, and C.
    Well B needs new roads, in which A has the resources to do so. So B asks A for the materials. Now, in capitalism and government A would ask something in return for the roads (such as money ect) however, in anarchism (which can be executed with socialism or communism, i support communism) A is going to realize something. A needs to get to C in order to get water for instance. So, in order for the residents of A to easily get to C, Bs going to have to have nice roads. Thus, A sees that giving the roads for free is in the best interest of A, B, and C. Mutual aid. This is of course a very simple example. But the best one i could come up with
     
  13. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Here is the thing, we need rules. As we become more interdependent and our technnology becomes more powerful the need for rules increases. Governments make and enforce rules. So unless we want to go back to the stone age, we need government.
     
  14. Anarcho Union No Gods No Masters Registered Senior Member

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    Not ture. We do need rules, but these rules do not need to be decided by hierarchy and government.
    Human beings are acctualy techincaly held back by government and hierarchy. For example, the electric car. Its been possible for years. However, because of capitalism the oil companys want to keep them off the lines.
     
  15. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    But how do the people live, eat and pay bills? If A went to help B and it took 3 months to do the repairs to the roads then how did they support their families back home while they were away? :shrug:

    If A helped B where did A get the materials and machines from to start with? How does A keep their equipment in good operating condition for that takes money to do. :shrug:
     
  16. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    @Psycho Bound


    Well why don't you answer my question, you've had plenty of time to think about this.
     
  17. Anarcho Union No Gods No Masters Registered Senior Member

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    again, very simple example to a very complicated (yet very simple) belief. If youre really interested, go to Infoshop.org and click on the anarchist FAQ (will be on your left)
    it will answer all you questions
     
  18. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    No, I want you to tell me where A gets the money to buy the material B needs to use to begin with.
     
  19. Anarcho Union No Gods No Masters Registered Senior Member

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    You're not reading what I am saying. One, communism calls for the elimantion of currency, so they wouldnt need to buy such matierals. Two, very very simple example.
     
  20. Anarcho Union No Gods No Masters Registered Senior Member

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    and three, please do the research on Infoshop
     
  21. Psyche Registered Senior Member

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    For the life of me I can't understand how you can so callously throw capitalism under the bus with the State as though the two are synonymous with one another. In a stateless society, capitalism would simply be the economic system most closely aligned with reality, where property rights, and the free exchange of value for value are honored. In a a so called anarcho-communist or anarcho-socialist society, how would “cooperation” be enforced? Would that not necessitate a ruling class? I've read debates between anarcho-capitalists and anarcho-communists, and the capitalists have no trouble allowing for the communists to voluntarily form their own societies and peacefully co-exists with the capitalists, and even prove them wrong by building a superior society. However, the communists don't seem as though they would permit anyone to exist who doesn't share their ideology.
     
  22. superstring01 Moderator

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    Regardless of what it sounds like or feels like to you, the US has completely open elections. I had oodles of choices in the last election (communists, libertarian, democrat, republican, and a few others). The choice lies with the people, and the people seem to prefer it this way.

    ~String
     
  23. Anarcho Union No Gods No Masters Registered Senior Member

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    Open elections? You mean the elections where propaganda, lies, and all around bullshit plagues the media?
     

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