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View Full Version : America Created and Wants War in Korea
lixluke 10-12-06, 09:43 AM South Koreans want peace.
More Koreans are stepping forward to tell their eye witness accounts of the killing of civilians by U.S. troops
Activists representing the movements in Puerto Rico, Iraq, and the Philippines expressed their solidarity in their efforts to commission the truth and rectify the human and environmental abuses and manipulation persistent with U.S. military occupation.
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/press/koreatruth.htm
In other wrods, they want to spread the word about how America likes to inflict terror and suffering to humans and the environment in their efforts of tyranical domination.
She was invited to address the opening plenary to give a political analysis of the current period, using the threats against the Korean peninsula as an example of the U.S. drive for empire.
http://www.workers.org/ww/2003/jeong0619.php
1. During World War 2, Koreans fought off the 40 year Japanese occupation of terror.
2. Korea would go to the people, and the elite would be dealt with accordingly.
3. Not so fast! United States divided Korea. There is really no such thing as N.Korea and S.Korea other than what Ameriac decided in 30min would be the line right through the middle. Drawn by kindergarteners with crayons. Basically the US and Soviet Union came to an agreement about who's half would belong to who. Koreans were not consulted in this agreement.
4. Now that Japan gone, America could take controll of Korea specifically for American business interests. America sets up an American Military Government in South Korea. Throughout the years, N Korea under threat of American Terror turns into a MIC economy. Military Industrial Complex. Niether capitalism or communism. An economy revolving around militarism.
5. After WW2, American propaganda claimed to be fighting against communism in Korea. They were fighting to free Korea from communist terror. What America was actually doing was protecting the tyranical elite's power from people trying to protect their freedom and rights from these rich dictators. America installed Korea's plutocracy into power, and backed them against freedom fighters. S. Korea was a dictatorship controlled by America using Korean elite. Korean domination with iron fist tyranny and terror.
6. The result:
-Major blood baths leading to the Korean war.
-Major blood baths during the Korean war.
-Growing MIC in NKorea.
-Lot's of Korean lives lost. Lots of massacres. Lots of poverty.
-Lot's of power and riches for Korean elite.
-Lot's and lot's and lot's and lot's of riches for Ameriterrorica.
Examples of Massacres:
http://www2.gol.com/users/coynerhm/doubts_about_a_korean_massacre.htm
http://www.fas.org/news/skorea/1999/991008-massacre.htm
http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST/db/read.php?idx=480
7. In 1997, NKorean power changes hands. Over the years, tentions ease up as relationships between north and south begin to ease up. America feels threat of losing Korea to the Koreans. America needs to take back to control. 2007-onwards, America is back for more war and domination. Koreans scramble as America returns to inflict more terror and bloody massacres killing everybody in site no questions asked. Muhuhahaha! Just like they did in Iraq.
-CS
spidergoat 10-12-06, 11:36 AM The Korean War came before Korea was divided. It was a civil war between the ideology of communism and democracy, and the Koreans themselves took sides. Tensions are not easing, there is a DMZ and both sides are heavily armed. North and South have been in tension since the war, which never officially ended.
lixluke 10-12-06, 11:39 AM The Korean war took place long after America drew the line with the crayon, and created the tensions and oppression. See OP summarizing how the Korean war came about and how Korea was divided to go to war.
spidergoat 10-12-06, 12:01 PM I stand corrected.
lixluke 10-12-06, 04:59 PM There are talks about banks freezing their N. Korea's ASSets.
There is one reason for this. Basically, if you have assets in my bank, I freeze them, I keep them. If I decide to one day give them back to you, your asset's remain unappreciated. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
spidergoat 10-12-06, 05:03 PM Cool, I didn't know we could do that.
Buffalo Roam 10-12-06, 07:39 PM lixluke, the problems in Korea started long before the U.S. was ever involved, and the return of Russia into the mix in 1945 didn't help, Korea has been in the middle since the 16th century, and the influence of Japan has been felt there in the form of several invasions. The peninsula of Korea was needed to bolster the Japanese security concerns about the Russians.
http://wgordon.web.wesleyan.edu/papers/jhist2.htm
Security Concerns
Japan's militaristic attitude intensified as government leaders recognized the need to ensure the defense of the country against Russia and other Western powers. Observing the advanced technological achievements and superior military and naval power of the West, Japan had fears of being invaded by a Western country such as Russia. Also, with China being so weak militarily and economically in the late 19th century, Japanese leaders feared the rivalries of the Western powers could bring China to collapse, which would have profound implications on the security of Japan. Yamagata Aritomo, known as the father of the modern Japanese army, advocated expansionism more for security reasons rather than for conquest as an end in itself or for other reasons. Yamagata recommended that Japan not only protect its line of sovereignty (shukensen) but also strive toward its line of advantage (riekisen), which meant that Japan should extend its influence and control beyond its national borders in order to ensure its security (Pyle 1996, 135).
Control over Korea represented an essential element in the protection of Japan against Western countries due to the two countries' geographical propinquity and due to Korea's having borders with both China and Russia. Japan soon recognized that it needed control over the Liaotung Peninsula in southern Manchuria to ensure the defense of Korea. Although Japan captured the Liaotung Peninsula in the Sino-Japanese War, the Triple Intervention in 1895 forced Japan to give up its position. Russia moved into Port Arthur at the tip of the Liaotung Peninsula in 1898, which further increased Japan's sense of insecurity. Although the 1902 Anglo-Japanese Alliance provided Japan a potential ally in the case of attack, the continuing tensions with Russia soon led to the Russo-Japanese War in 1904-5.
Buffalo Roam 10-12-06, 07:51 PM lixluke, yes we can freeze their assets but no we can't keep them, they must a some point be returned to the Nation form were they came from.
http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/1990/900828-152460.htm
Under U.S. law, title to blocked property remains with nationals of the country or countries whose assets are being frozen. But the exercise of powers and privileges normally associated with ownership is regulated by Treasury Department licenses. Licenses may be specific, applying to a particular transaction, or general, applying to a broad class of transactions. For example, licenses are frequently issued that permit the transfer of assets from one U.S. bank to another at the direction of the foreign owner, provided ownership of the assets does not change and they remain identified as blocked.
superluminal 10-12-06, 08:23 PM In other wrods, they want to spread the word about how America likes to inflict terror and suffering to humans and the environment in their efforts of tyranical domination.
What a total fucking ass.
I wish the spirits of all of the American dead who fought in wars to liberate people and nations from horrible oppression and torture populate your dreams.
Dipshit.
lixluke 10-12-06, 08:42 PM What a total fucking ass.
I wish the spirits of all of the American dead who fought in wars to liberate people and nations from horrible oppression and torture populate your dreams.
Dipshit.
Screw those bastards. They did not fight to liberate nations. They fought to terrorize nations. They fought to bring America's firey reign of terror upon the poor and helpless.
The only reason American soldiers went to fight was because of the benefits that the army offered them. Others went because they were brainwashed into thinking they were helping people. Didn't you see Born on the 4th of July true story starring your boyfriend Tom Cruise?
Buffalo Roam 10-12-06, 09:07 PM lixluke, The only thing true about the movie 4th of July was it was made in Hollywood, it bears about as much truth about Vietnam as your bio.
baumgarten 10-12-06, 09:42 PM What a total fucking ass.
I wish the spirits of all of the American dead who fought in wars to liberate people and nations from horrible oppression and torture populate your dreams.
Dipshit.
qft
Buffalo Roam 10-13-06, 08:38 AM lixluke,
1. During World War 2, Koreans fought off the 40 year Japanese occupation of terror.
Were in history do you find that the Korean's fought off the Japanese, in WWII, site proof is required, as I can find no reference to any military actions taken by them to do so. I do agree there was resistance to the Japanese Occupation, but what I find is that it was ineffective, and that Japan maintained control of the peninsula until they turned it over to the allies at the end of WWII.
http://www.kilroywashere.org/003-Pages/Benedetto/Benedetto.html
Buffalo Roam 10-13-06, 09:01 AM lixluke,
3. Not so fast! United States divided Korea. There is really no such thing as N.Korea and S.Korea other than what Ameriac decided in 30min would be the line right through the middle. Drawn by kindergarteners with crayons. Basically the US and Soviet Union came to an agreement about who's half would belong to who. Koreans were not consulted in this agreement.
Really it would appear that the Soviet had a long history of trying to subvert the Korean peninsula to their purpose.
http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/pd-c-01.htm
Korea's Past
The forces shaping Korea into a nation arose from its unfortunate proximity to three powers, China, Japan, and Russia. The periodic surges of ambition in each of these neighbors turned Korea into a battleground and a spoil. Sometimes described as a "dagger pointed at the heart of Japan," Korea became instead Japan's steppingstone to the Asian mainland. For China and, later, Russia, Korea was a back gate both to be locked against intruders and to be opened during any opportunity for expansion. Korea's ice-free ports fronting the Sea of Japan were especially coveted by the Russians. Korea therefore has seldom been completely free of domination by one of its stronger neighbors. [1]
Unfortunately for Korea's privacy, in 1860 Russia reached Korea's borders and later in the century westernization again whetted Japan's appetite for territorial expansion. With China, Japan, and Russia fighting for control of Korea throughout the rest of the 19th century, the Korean people had little chance to learn self-government. They remained separate from the modern world emerging around them.
A strong Korean Communist party also sprang up in Korea. Organized in 1925, it pushed the underground movement against Japan. Communist power in Korea grew under the well-organized leadership of the anti-Japanese underground. The Korean Communists were in contact with the Russian Communists through the Far Eastern Division of the Comintern. It is believed, however, that, owing to a secret agreement with Japan, the Russians abstained from encouraging too greatly the Communists in Korea during Japanese occupation. Many Communist Koreans took refuge in Manchuria, China, and Russia. [9]
When World War II began, Korea was regarded by the Allies as a victim of, not a party to, Japanese aggression. One of the earliest signs that the Allied Powers were concerned about Korea appeared in a Joint statement by the United States, China, and Great Britain in December 1943, after the Cairo Conference, which said: "The aforesaid three great powers, mindful of the enslavement of the people of Korea, are determined that in due course Korea shall become free and independent." [10]
Divergencies between American and Russian policies appearing in the latter stages of World War II affected Korea.
Russia, on the other hand, maintained its traditional regard for Korea as a strategic area. As later events demonstrated, the Soviet Union would not countenance control of Korea by another power and sought to control Korea itself.
Now, lixluke, can you present something other than your opinion? Back you mouth with research.
What a total fucking ass.
I wish the spirits of all of the American dead who fought in wars to liberate people and nations from horrible oppression and torture populate your dreams.
Dipshit.
Not always.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Korea
North Korea and South Korea stems from the 1945 Allied victory in World War II, ending Japan's 35-year occupation of Korea. In a proposal opposed by nearly all Koreans, the United States and the Soviet Union agreed to temporarily occupy the country as a trusteeship with the zone of control demarcated along the 38th Parallel. The purpose of this trusteeship was to establish a Korean provisional government which would become "free and independent in due course."[1] Though elections were scheduled, the two superpowers backed different leaders and two states were effectively established, each of which claimed sovereignty over the whole Korean peninsula.
With the war's end in sight in August 1945, there was still no consensus on Korea's fate among Allied leaders. Many Koreans on the peninsula had made their own plans for the future of Korea, and few of these plans included the re-occupation of Korea by foreign forces. In accordance with a policy suggested by the US to the Soviet Union, the Russians declared war on Japan and moved their military forces into northeastern China and northern Korea. However, the American leaders worried that the whole peninsula might be occupied by the Soviet Union, and feared this might lead to a Soviet occupation of Japan.[citation needed] Later events showed these fears to be unfounded. The Soviet forces would arrive in Korea before the American forces, but they occupied only the northern part of the peninsula, halting their advance at the 38th parallel, which was in keeping with their agreement with the United States. On August 10, 1945 two young officers – Dean Rusk and Charles Bonesteel – were assigned the task of creating an American occupation zone. Working on extremely short notice and completely unprepared for the task, they used a National Geographic map to decide on the 38th parallel; they chose it because it divided the country approximately in half but would leave the capital Seoul under American control. No experts on Korea were consulted and the two men were unaware that forty years previous, Japan and Russia had discussed sharing Korea along the same parallel; Rusk later said that had he known, he would have chosen a different line.
TW Scott 10-13-06, 10:45 PM Interesting on how your information comes from wikipedia with the qualifier that citation is needed.
Interesting on how your information comes from wikipedia with the qualifier that citation is needed.
Sam would be lost without her Wikipedia.
Sam would be lost without her Wikipedia.
I have to consider that not everyone has access to university records, online newspapers and academic publications as I do.
Can't anyone edit Wiki?
Yes Oniw - It is editable by anyone who logs on to it
I have to consider that not everyone has access to university records, online newspapers and academic publications as I do.
Well who's a lucky girl lol :D
Interesting on how your information comes from wikipedia with the qualifier that citation is needed.
Here is one.
http://www.monthlyreview.org/1000hart.htm
not from wiki.
In a proposal opposed by nearly all Koreans...
A test: America announces its wholesale withdrawal of all military personel and assests from the Korean peninsula.
And a renunciation of umbrella protection.
Would be fun to watch the resulting proposed opposition...
;)
Well who's a lucky girl lol :D
Luck has very little to do with it.
A test: America announces its wholesale withdrawal of all military personel and assests from the Korean peninsula.
And a renunciation of umbrella protection.
Would be fun to watch the resulting proposed opposition...
;)
I actually think that would be a very good idea.
I actually think that would be a very good idea.
But, of course.
A respectable point of view.
Among others.
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