Alternatives to Modern Society

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  1. android nothing human inside Registered Senior Member

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    I.

    The corrupt and polluted cities of Europe and North-America have vanished as the people started their trek towards south.

    The storyteller says:...the whole world was at the brink of destruction from pollution, population growth, and exhaustion of natural resources.... And even worse, the capitalist decadence was threatening to corrupt the very soul of our northern nation. But then the Hyperborea-society came in... after liberating their own areas, our revolutionary forefathers saw that the world could only be saved under the wise rule of the North.

    A student asks: But where then did the original inhabitants of this region go ?

    The storyteller replies: Krkhhm, cough! ... well ... err .. their number was ...ehh.. reduced.

    http://www.kolumbus.fi/jik/sarastus/page1.htm

    II.

    If the present number of Earths population is preserved and is reduced only by the means of birth controll, then:
    - Birthgiving is licenced. To enhance quality of population , genetically or socially unfit homes will be denied offspring. So that several birth licences can be allowed to families of quality.
    - Energy production must be drastically reduced. Electricity is allowed only for the most necessary lighting and communications.
    - Food: Hunting is made more efficient. Human diet will include rats and invertebrate animals.
    Agriculture moves to small un-mechanized units. All human manure is used as fertilizer.
    - Traffic is mostly done with bicycles and rowing boats. Private cars are confiscated. Long-distance travel is done with sparse mass transport. Trees will be planted on most roads.
    - Foreign affairs: All mass immigration and most of import-export trade must stop. Cross-border travel is allowed only for small numbers of diplomats and correspondents.
    - Business will mostly end . Manufacture is allowed only for well argumented needs. All major manufacturing capacity is state owned. Products will be durable and last for generations.
    - Science and schooling: Education will concentrate on practical skills. All competition is rooted out. Technological research is reduced to extreme minimum. But every child will learn how to clean a fish in a way that only the big shiny bones are left over.

    http://www.penttilinkola.com/pentti_linkola/idea/

    III.

    The Covenant of Traditional Values

    Whereas, modern society (defined as the collusion between consumerism, democracy, and capitalism) as a design theory and not simply a physical entity has shown its unfitness through long term problems including but not limited to pollution, land overuse, rampant cancers, crime, urban blight, worthless plastic products, meaningless functional lifestyles, and so forth, we the undersigned commit ourselves to a new system of values that will be the underpinning and abstract description of the design of a society to both replace modern society and restore our ancient traditions and ways of life.

    Our goal is not to replace our leaders, or to transfer wealth within our economies, as revolutions do, but to create an entirely different society which is not prone to the failures of modern society. Only structural change will accomplish this. We must both remake little of society, in that our changes will leave most of daily life and most people undisturbed, and we must remake all of it, in that we need a new design philosophy for society and a new way of living.

    Modern society is defined by its preference for quantities, based on the form factor of the individual or the material worth of each unit, instead of internal traits. We assume that because something is defined as a tractor, it will work like all other tractors; we extend this same logic to humans and, needing to justify our absurd assumption, use bureaucratic averages to create expectations of a generic human being with generic behavior. This not only fails to predict our actual needs, but works to shape us as docile and whorelike people of limited personality.

    Our platform contains a handful of major changes in our outlook and methods of civilization:

    1. Leadership by Intelligence and Not Popularity. Modern society is based on a greed empowered by individualism, or the placing of the individual above all else; this is the result of underconfidence on the part of a large number of our people, and their political empowerment allowing them to misappropriate resources to ensure individualism takes precedence over any other thought or value. Consumerism, democracy, and media/popularity are the means by which we make decisions. For the future, we want to have intelligent leaders chosen by a subset of our population that comprises the intelligent and capable in making leadership decisions; instead of democracy, and the consumerist ideal that whatever idea makes money is the best, we would like a community of leaders picking leaders based on what is the best course of action for our society, no matter how unpopular it appears at first (most great ideas are initially opposed by most people, so it is unreasonable to expect that because most people do not like the sound of an idea, it is bad).

    2. Not Equality, but Guaranteed Positions in Social Hierarchy. We are not interested in equality, as with it comes necessary economic and social competition and the resulting instability, because if we are all equal there is no way to stand out except by dominating others. We prefer a good living according to our abilities, such that except in cases of gross incompetence, we are able to work in the positions given to our ancestors and to gain a better living if we are dramatically more competent than others. However, the basis of our new social view is that each person is unique, and we cannot compare a plumber to a bank president and conclude that because one makes more money he is superior; we must each take our position in life and do with it what we can, but not attempt to draw moral decisions based on income and therefore force all of us into a vicious competition that eventually consumes us all. Competition leads to a lack of lowest public standard, in that whoever cuts the most corners wins, and impoverishes more people than it makes rich.

    3. Our Natural Environment is Not a Resource, but a Living Entity of Parallel Value to Our Own Lives. Our environment created us and nurtures us and will remain important no matter how good our technology gets. Its survival is as important as our own. We must cease to see it as raw materials for a society, and see our world as civilization and nature coexisting. To this end, we need to end the cause of all of our environmental woes, which is overpopulation, and to cease dumping toxic effluvia and chemicals into our environment.

    4. Natural Selection Must Regulate Us. Both as individuals and as groups, we need regulation by an external force. We must re-design society so that it disproportionately rewards those who have the balanced traits of intelligence, beauty/strength, and an inherent nobility to their moral thought such that they consider the whole over the individual and do what is right according to the balance of the cosmos. Further, we must enable natural selection to eliminate any community that is so unable to run itself that it perishes from natural (famine, war, disease) causes.

    5. We Must Have Higher Values, Not Inclusive Ones. A fundamental trait of modern society is compromise; we value making sure everyone is heard, that every opinion is aired, and that all people are represented over doing what is best for the world as whole. It is this logic that leads to our unhealthy fascination with the individual, and hence popularity/profit. Our goal is to have higher values so that we constantly envision a better design of not only civilization but an idealized human, and strive toward it. Heroism, natural beauty, transcendence and harmony with nature are more important than any kind of equality or compromise or social popularity. By having higher values, we are always pushing ourselves toward a goal that will make us healthier, smarter and more noble as people. Through this mechanism, we offer people something better with each passing generation, and each set of parents can look on its offspring with pride in both their abilities and the world they will inherit.

    Modern society is based on the individual because the individual is a useful unit for counting power. We do not seek the best answers, but the most popular. Because even a group of highly intelligent people will have contrasting opinions and thus will only be able to find an inclusive opinion that is a lowest common denominator, modern society through democracy and consumerism erodes every good idea into the same old thing. It is incapable of changing itself. It is up to us to change it. By these concepts and actions we, the undersigned, swear.
     
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  3. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    Straight from the pages of Mein Kampf .
     
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  5. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    ANDRIOD:

    one question....

    will your society... as it were... still use money??? at all??? in some form???

    if it does... then it will be no different.

    if you want a different world...

    lets build one called.. family..... a brotherhood.. where we do not trade or barter with each other... we share.. care and work together.
    and we have no need or use for money in our daily lives... at all.
    http://theempiricalchurch.blogspot.com/

    do you understand?

    -MT
     
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  7. Light Registered Senior Member

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    Dream on, Moshesh. It's been tried hundreds of times and has never worked. And never will. Yours is just the wishful dreams of the idealist.
     
  8. Giambattista sssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss Valued Senior Member

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    Complete extinction is a viable alternative to ANY society. No one has to think, work, worry, or suffer.

    Brava!
     
  9. marv Just a dumb hillbilly... Registered Senior Member

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    Hmmmmmm, "No economic growth only spiritual growth, no struggle only brotherhood ---"

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