Bowser
01-01-05, 12:59 AM
What next. Rise bisexuals... You should rightfully marry whomever and as many as you desire...uhm, love. :D
Sorry, I thought I had seen a larger minority...
Sorry, I thought I had seen a larger minority...
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View Full Version : Allowing bi-sex marriage? Bowser 01-01-05, 12:59 AM What next. Rise bisexuals... You should rightfully marry whomever and as many as you desire...uhm, love. :D Sorry, I thought I had seen a larger minority... Asguard 01-01-05, 01:08 AM bowser out of interest what makes you think that because someone is bi they cant be mahoganious? thats a pritty big assumption Avatar 01-01-05, 05:02 AM According to Freud the largest part of humans (if not all) are bisexual (even if only unconsciously). Red Devil 01-01-05, 07:13 AM I have been married to the same woman for 30 years, did I jump the gun? Tiassa 01-01-05, 07:04 PM Probably not. Then again, it occurred to me the other day that I can't remember the last time I had a man. Strange. It's not just the drugs, either, but the passing of time. It's 2005 ... it's probably been five years. I don't worry about it too much. I mean, on the one hand, I'd think the random fellatio would have come up, no pun intended, at some point, but no .... In the meantime, I have managed a heterosexual infidelity or two in that time. I think just one. Almost another, but ... let's not go there. I don't expect to date women for a while after this one's finally drawn a suitable conclusion. Nor do I really enjoy the actual pretending of deception. My partner, on the other hand, is another story. Suffice to say, whatever; my child is mine, and nobody on the face of the Earth would ever suggest otherwise having met her, and beyond that I don't care what she does since it's not mine to care. Hell, we've spent nine years around one another and the one thing we know is that we don't want to actually be married to one another. Mystech 01-01-05, 07:46 PM bowser out of interest what makes you think that because someone is bi they cant be mahoganious? Well said, I've known plenty of bisexual people that were carved out of wood! Asguard, do yourself a favor and spell check! What next. Rise bisexuals... You should rightfully marry whomever and as many as you desire...uhm, love. :D Haha! man oh man, gotta' hand it to you, Bowser, you came up with a really clever observation here! Daaaymn those bisexuals are promiscuous and rudely sexual, aren't they? Now let's go back to our beer commercials full of bouncing titties, and jerk off to lingerie mags like good straight men! Wonder why there aren't entire advertising industries built around the idea of appealing to bisexuals yet. . .Hmm, could be because they spend all of their money on crack cocaine anyhow. Where are you at, Bowser? We ought to head out ot one of them “Gentleman’s clubs” some time while the wives are at home watching Oprah and Dr. Phill counsel another couple that has a problem with cheating. It'll be my treat, and we talk talk a bit more about your clever observations about how slutty and shameless those damned sexual deviants are. Athelwulf 01-02-05, 01:16 AM What next. Rise bisexuals... You should rightfully marry whomever and as many as you desire...uhm, love. :D Sorry, I thought I had seen a larger minority... Um . . . Ye'r being kinda vague. Please explain yer last sentence. Bowser 01-02-05, 04:59 PM Hmm, what is bisexuality? Is it love, genetic hard-wire, or something else? If we were to assume that it is a natural condition, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that a group union would be justified. There must be financial rewards for such a thing. <i>"Daaaymn those bisexuals are promiscuous and rudely sexual, aren't they?"</i> Darned if I know. Quite honestly, I don't know much about them. I just observed that one of the polls on another thread showed a larger number bisexuals than homersexuals. The question in my mind is how do these two compare...? cosmictraveler 01-02-05, 05:30 PM What I can't understand is that why don't gay people just live together and make up a will so that anything they want can go to the other person if they should die. What is the real point of gays getting married after all unless the agenda is to adopt a young child? Marriage is only good for the children that are concieved during the marriage so that they can have proper papers telling them and others who they are and who brought them into this world. It is also to show possesion of material things so if a divorce happens the property will be divided up. So what's the big deal about just living together wherever the gay couple want to and just not tell anyone for what right is of it of others who is living with whom? Asguard 01-02-05, 05:37 PM cosmictraveler : even if thats the only reason they want it why shouldnt they be able to adopt? Bowser 01-02-05, 05:44 PM Enough about the homosexuals. Can we, however, apply the same arguments where Bisexuals are concerned. If it is love...? cosmictraveler 01-02-05, 05:55 PM cosmictraveler : even if thats the only reason they want it why shouldnt they be able to adopt? Who said that they can't adopt. I only stated that the one primary reason would be to adopt a young child and somehow being married seems to make it easier, which it doesn't. You can be single and adopt, it is happening everyday. So that's really not the real reason why the gays want the marriage licence is it? What is the reason? Bowser 01-02-05, 07:52 PM Should bisexual foursums be allowed to adopt children? Asguard 01-02-05, 07:59 PM yes but if they adoped as singles then only one person can make the desisions for the child cant they? i mean they cant make legal desisions, sign medical releace forms ect ect CounslerCoffee 01-02-05, 08:10 PM mean they cant make legal desisions, sign medical releace forms ect ect No, they don't have that right if they're single! If you're single you don't have any rights! Bowser 01-02-05, 08:46 PM Bisexual tendencies have been observed in many of nature's creatures; most notable of these are male canines and monkeys. Persol 01-02-05, 08:56 PM Should bisexual foursums be allowed to adopt children?Unless someone has a good reason why not, yes. Asguard 01-02-05, 09:18 PM CC are you even following the convo? he said they could adopt without marrage yet if they did that there would be one "father" and one room mate for all the legal rights that person had over the child Bowser 01-02-05, 10:20 PM <i>"Unless someone has a good reason why not, yes."</i> Oh well... Athelwulf 01-02-05, 10:27 PM Hmm, what is bisexuality? Is it love, genetic hard-wire, or something else? What is homosexuality? What is heterosexuality? I think it's mainly all about love. If we were to assume that it is a natural condition, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that a group union would be justified. Yes, I think it would be reasonable. I just observed that one of the polls on another thread showed a larger number bisexuals than homersexuals. Emphasis Âðelwulf's What's a homersexual? Someone that's sexually attracted to Homer Simpson? First it was "HS"; now it's "homersexual". Seriously, Bowser, please stop using euphamisms. It's annoying. Should bisexual foursums be allowed to adopt children? Yes. They're no less capable of raising a child than a heterosexual couple. In fact, having four parents would probably be easier for a child. After all, there are more people that can work and be a source of income for the household, and there are more people to stay home and take care of the child. It's like a miniature village, and ya know it takes a village to raise a child. Something to think about. What I can't understand is that why don't gay people just live together and make up a will so that anything they want can go to the other person if they should die. What is the real point of gays getting married after all unless the agenda is to adopt a young child? Marriage is only good for the children that are concieved during the marriage so that they can have proper papers telling them and others who they are and who brought them into this world. It is also to show possesion of material things so if a divorce happens the property will be divided up. So what's the big deal about just living together wherever the gay couple want to and just not tell anyone for what right is of it of others who is living with whom? Using this logic, we can conclude that marriage isn't necessary, and therefore, we can justly take away the right to marry anyone at all. . . . ;) I'm sure you wanna marry a girl, even if ya can do all of this and bypass the marriage altogether. You'd agree that getting married to a girl is an easier road than all of what ya described. Why, then, can't homosexuals take the easy road as well? Just kuz ya don't like the idea? Hmm? No, they don't have that right if they're single! If you're single you don't have any rights! :eek: . . . :bugeye: Please explain yerself, El Presidente. Bowser 01-02-05, 10:53 PM Please, I'm exploring the realities of BS here. Why isn't BS unions an issue? Athelwulf 01-02-05, 11:10 PM Please, I'm exploring the realities of BS here. Why isn't BS unions an issue? The realities of BS? As in "bullshit"? That must be what ye'r talking about. Bullshit unions aren't an issue kuz there is no such thing as a bullshit union. Athelwulf 01-02-05, 11:12 PM But in all seriousness . . . The issue of bisexual unions hasn't come up kuz we're still fighting for homosexual unions. Some 'phants are holding back the forward movement in our society. Bowser 01-02-05, 11:17 PM BS as in Bisexual. Look, why are the bisexuals not clamoring for their conjugal rights? There are so many of them. Bowser 01-02-05, 11:21 PM There it is. Thank you. Athelwulf 01-02-05, 11:22 PM BS as in Bisexual. Look, why are the bisexuals not clamoring for their conjugal rights? There are so many of them. Because too many people are too focused on homosexual rights to care right now. Therefore, no clamoring. I think I get what ye'r saying. Ya think the bisexuals should be fighting for their rights as well. I also would like to see an uprising by the bisexuals similar to that by the homosexuals. This would definitely be progress in the right direction. EDIT: Oh, ya saw it . . . :o . . . Good. Tiassa 01-03-05, 10:07 AM • What next. Rise bisexuals... You should rightfully marry whomever and as many as you desire...uhm, love. • Why isn't BS unions an issue? • Look, why are the bisexuals not clamoring for their conjugal rights? There are so many of them. I would point out the obvious to you, Bowser, but you've already covered it in the topic post. Something about jumping the gun goes here; or maybe premature ... oh, never mind. Is it not perfectly obvious why "bisexual marriage" hasn't come up? Or are conservatives still confused about the numbers? After all, the question is predicated on an issue that only marital traditionalists have difficulty understanding. Persol 01-03-05, 05:13 PM I may be missing the point, but bisexuals either have a heterosexual mate or a homosexual mate. In the first case they have no reason to fight for rights they already have. In the second case there is no substantial difference between them and the gay marriage advocates. Bowser 01-03-05, 05:23 PM I'm assuming that they have one of each, therefore, more than one partner. Athelwulf 01-03-05, 05:50 PM Some may be in such relationships. But just kuz they find both girls and guys hot doesn't mean they will be dating both a girl and a guy at the same time. For some, monogomy is their thing. Asguard 01-03-05, 06:02 PM for that matter there are hetrosexuals in multipul patener relationships as well Bowser 01-03-05, 06:17 PM <i>"for that matter there are hetrosexuals in multipul patener relationships as well"</i> Very true. So...we need to bring them into the party, too. Would those be the Mormons? Persol 01-03-05, 06:31 PM So this thread has nothing to do with bisexuals, but bigamy. I know more straight people who were in bigamius (possibly not a word) relationships than bisexuals. Bowser 01-03-05, 06:38 PM <i>"bigamius"</i> Hmm, you might have coined a new word, my man. The topic does seem to be flowing. Maybe it's an exploration of forward thinking. I'm not certain, to be honest. Mystech 01-03-05, 06:53 PM What I can't understand is that why don't gay people just live together and make up a will so that anything they want can go to the other person if they should die. They do, and believe it or not judges don't always pay attention to wills. There have been instances before where, despite having named their partner as the executor of their estate in their will, everything still ends up going to next of kin, IE the family which disowned them years ago. Also, estate matters are not the only legal matter effected by a legal marriage contract. What is the real point of gays getting married after all unless the agenda is to adopt a young child? Hmm, an agenda to adopt a young child, you say? How hideously and unforgivably evil! Aside from the fact that your reasoning is entirely flawed (though really only because you haven't got your facts, straight, but that's forgivable, most people become complete idiots when it comes to legal matters that they've never looked into. . . if you don't believe me go start a thread about intellectual property laws), because there are very many other reasons to want the legal protections which marriage provides. Aside from that, you're ignoring the fact that same-sex partners already are adopting children, this isn't prohibited in very many places in the United States. So we've already got our hands on the children the breeders throw away! Oh no! Why is that such a bad thing? Marriage is only good for the children that are concieved during the marriage so that they can have proper papers telling them and others who they are and who brought them into this world. It is also to show possesion of material things so if a divorce happens the property will be divided up. I'm not sure where you're living, but in the United States the legal reality of the situation is quite a bit different. If you are in the US then I really don't know where you're getting this stuff about the kids from. I assure you a birth certificate will be issued regardless of whether a couple is married or not. Other than that, yes there are quite a lot of joint property rights, as you've stated, as well as tax considerations, and a load of secondary considerations including quite a few dealing with healthcare and also immigration. So what's the big deal about just living together wherever the gay couple want to and just not tell anyone for what right is of it of others who is living with whom? Eer that's a sort of roundabout way of saying I'm not entirely sure what. Mystech 01-03-05, 07:01 PM I'm assuming that they have one of each, therefore, more than one partner. And that's your problem, right there. You were quite right to state, earlier in the thread that you know nothing about bisexuals. That truth is evident in the fact that you seem to be confusing them with polygamists. Being bisexual doesn't mean a person has multiple partners of both genders at the same time, just that they're open to relationships with either gender. As such it would be unfair to characterize a theoretical marriage of several people as a "Bisexual union", and you've likely not heard anyone talking about such unions because everyone else has enough sense to look at the world around them and understand what the hell is going on, at least to some small degree. Give that a try, and I think a lot of troublesome questions in your mind might be cleared up. |