d like to thank you beforehand. (im having pretty hard time here nw;)

What is meant by "other"?

By "language", do you mean words specifically or just any form of communication?

By "language", do you mean words specifically or just any form of communication?

not specifically words.. i mean language which is uniquely human...

A mark of genius is not thinking in words.

"All of the other ways of knowing are controlled by language."

'Other', I think, connotates experience. Language is a barrier of understanding. One speaks more clearly by using association that the reciever knows best. This is best shown by the numerous different languages in our world today. There are so many differing languages because one feels the need to use a type of communication that is most easily associated to past memories. In other words, one is able to more easily understand by relating to one's own experiences. This, of course is obvious.

Language is particularly difficult in this aspect because every single person has different experiences associated with the words and idioms of that language. This goes for any kind of communication (that we know of). People learn by repeatedly doing something. You repeatedly say or hear words and sentences and the more you do so the more easily you associate them when someone else says the same thing. But it is still subjective to your own experience. That is why language has different, if only slightly, meanings for everyone.

One's own perception of the world is as close to the truth as any one person will find. Judgments, opinions, ideologies, thoughts are all stripped away in the face of pure experience. Thoughts are largely caused by the constant use of language. Because of the almost constant association to language, one tends to think using words, or whatever communication method comes easiest. Without language, one would only be left with experience to ponder upon. One would only think by relating current stimuli (the breeze upon your skin, the rustling of leaves, the smell of fresh air, the vivid colors of trees in autumn) to past experience. It would be more like daydreaming than what we know as thought. In my opinion, we would think in more realistic ways; we would be able to imagine in more detail.

This leads me to ask the question: What language is the language of genius? What language best facilitates accurately describing brilliant ideas?

What is this thread about? Why is there no explanation at the beginning of the post? What are we supposed to make of the heading?

I'm actually not sure, I was just asking another question. But the topic starter edited his post so...I'm sure that has something to do with it.

Captain Kirk once said: "You.. Klingon bastard! You KILLED MY SON!"

I think that is what the original poster was getting at.

Captain Kirk once said: "You.. Klingon bastard! You KILLED MY SON!"

I think that is what the original poster was getting at.

May Captain Kirk bless the reading of his words. :rolleyes:

Actually, it's ADMIRAL Kirk.

Captain Kirk

lol I don't watch Star Trek, I was taking your word for it.

Actually, it's ADMIRAL Kirk.

Actually, no. He was busted back to Captain at the end of StarTrek IV....











Oh - shoot me now! Someone! In the name of Humanity, kill me! :(

Actually, no. He was busted back to Captain at the end of StarTrek IV....


Actually, yes. Sort of. He WAS Admiral James Tiberius Kirk when the aforementioned event took place.
After the "court martial" he became Captain James T. Kirk. They were downsizing, and they needed to shorten his middle name.




Oh - shoot me now! Someone! In the name of Humanity, kill me! :(

Phasers on stun, only. We are humanitarians.

Y'know, you're absolutely right - he was Admiral James Tiberius Kirk throught the whole of StarTrek I - III and pretty much most of StarTrek IV...

Praise God - I'm cured! :eek:

It's a pretty easy test to pay attention to your own thoughts and find out in what medium they are formed. It's a safe bet that for most of us, the vast majority of our thoughts are shaped in words.

Sure, musicians and artists in other media. Mathematicians. Maybe a few other vocations/avocations that I haven't listed. But most of our jobs and hobbies are word-intensive. Even when you're playing chess you're thinking, "I move my rook there, he moves his bishop over here," probably only the Grandmasters have thoughts that are only images of the board and pieces. Carpenters are thinking, "This one needs to fit here and this one needs to be half an inch higher."

Language doesn't control all ways of knowing. There are no absolute statements (including this one). But language controls almost all ways of knowing for almost all people.