I recently found this information, and it got my attention. I wanted to share this here for opinions and further research:

It is about "Ram Bahadur Bomjon", a 17 year-old buddhist. His followers claim him to be the re-incarnation of Gautama Buddha.
To this claims, the boy replied:
"Tell the people not to call me a Buddha. I don't have the Buddha's energy. I am at the level of rinpoche."
A rinpoche is the level of a teacher, which indicates he believes he has achieved a significant amount. He said that he will need six more years of meditation before he may become a Buddha.

On May 16, 2005, he admonished his family not to kill animals or drink alcohol, then left home while they slept. A search was conducted and he was found meditating under a nearby pipal tree. He told his family to go home and not worry. When his mother continued to despair, he plucked six leaves from the tree and gave them to her, saying, "Take these leaves home and keep them in a safe condition. If you lose these leaves, you will not be able to find me. If you keep them safe, I will remain with you forever."

After about ten months of meditation, (his supporters claim that he did this without food or water for the whole 10 months) Bomjon went missing on March 11, 2006.

On March 19, a group of Bomjon's followers met with him about 2 miles (3 kilometers) southwest of his meditation site. They say they spoke to him for thirty minutes, during which Bomjan said "there is no peace here" and that he would return in six years, or roughly 2011 or 2012. He left a message for his parents telling them not to worry.

"I left because there is no peace here... Tell my parents not to worry," Mr Lama quoted Bomjan as saying.

On December 25, 2006, villagers in Bara district spotted Bomjon meditating. He was carrying a sword which he had used to protect himself in the jungle, reminding reporters that "Even Gautama Buddha had to protect himself," and claimed to have eaten nothing but herbs in the interim. He reiterated his commitment to Buddhist devotion for six years and said he would allow people to come observe him as long as they kept away some distance and didn't bother him

Video link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4824530.stm

Info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Bahadur_Bomjon

Even the Discovery Channel taped him for 4 days straight, only to verufy the boy barely moves during meditation, and he doesn´t eat or drink nothing during the day. (Nobody knows what happens between 5pm and 5am).

But it seems to me that we may have a teacher to look up to in the future.

teenager story.

What a waste of time.

teenager story.

Dude, I have seen many 15 year old boys, but not even close to one that leaves his family and goes into a 10 month fasting motionless meditation state... Before going into the forrest for a 6 year meditation.

Some people won´t recognize a Buddha if its standing infront of them, and their ego will make them judge the Buddha (the inner-self is non-judgemental). Just like people judged Jesus and pretty much every awaken person since then.

Some people won´t recognize a Buddha if its standing infront of them, and their ego will make them judge the Buddha (the inner-self is non-judgemental). Just like people judged Jesus and pretty much every awaken person since then.

ok...but how do you distinguish those who pretend to know the truth?

I'm Buddha, you're Buddha. It's no big deal. This kid is either mental or starting the con game early.

ok...but how do you distinguish those who pretend to know the truth?

I can give you my perspective:

1 - Awakening is about inner-wisdom, is not about who knows more than who, but who knows himself better... Meditation is the best way to know yourself.

2 - Like the summer sky, in meditation the mind needs to be a vast space, without clouds (thoughts), but deep, pure meditation. In this kind of meditation, our metabolism is kind of the same as when we sleep, so one can fast for days...

3 - Tranquility of movements, blissful in thoughts....

4 - His ideas cannot be acceptable to society.

5 - Wise speach. (Non-judgemental, humble, self-knowledge and deep words).

6 - All this and more clues of having no Ego...

I'm Buddha, you're Buddha. It's no big deal. This kid is either mental or starting the con game early.

I am not Buddha, and excuse me my friend, but I can tell, you are no Buddha or Christ yourself.

Every person has the seed of Christ or Buddha, it is the same seed we all have, from Jesus to Bush . But is still a seed, not quite yet Buddha.

Gautama and Jesus cristalized their inner-selfs, I believe Bush won´t cristalize his inner-self in this life, unless something incredibly radical happens.

I don't believe these people, when the REAL Buddha comes most will automatically know.....I always judge by what someone says...

I don't believe these people, when the REAL Buddha comes most will automatically know.....I always judge by what someone says...

well...Buddha came in his lifetime...and only Asians knew of it...what of barbarians in the East? How come they didn't automatically know of it?

cristalize his inner-self
That's an interesting proposition. How do you know my inner self isn't what you experience now? How do you know there's a self at all?

well...Buddha came in his lifetime...and only Asians knew of it...what of barbarians in the East? How come they didn't automatically know of it?

Yeah but Maitreya-Buddha is supposed to be known throughout the world....he'll come around the 4400s..

Yeah ive read about him before, ultimately whether or not he is the reincarnation of buddha, the guy has unbelievable discipline.
I dont think people realise how hard and meditation actually is - try sitting absolutely still for 1 hour with your mind completely clear of thoughts. I can barely make it to half and hour.
This kid meditates during an entire day, with barely (if any) food.

He does sound pretty enlightened either way, seems like hes entered the final stage of moral reasoning - realising everything is an end unto itself and not just a means to an end.
Generally comes across as an interesting bloke from what ive read about him, would be nice to have a natter with someone like that.

um... wasn't The Buddha against fasting?

The funny part is that when he eventually reaches supreme enlightenment he will start teaching others to do the same, by the same austere methods and lifestyle...causing his many worshippers to flee in horror.

Yeah ive read about him before, ultimately whether or not he is the reincarnation of buddha, the guy has unbelievable discipline.
I dont think people realise how hard and meditation actually is - try sitting absolutely still for 1 hour with your mind completely clear of thoughts. I can barely make it to half and hour.
This kid meditates during an entire day, with barely (if any) food.

He does sound pretty enlightened either way, seems like hes entered the final stage of moral reasoning - realising everything is an end unto itself and not just a means to an end.
Generally comes across as an interesting bloke from what ive read about him, would be nice to have a natter with someone like that.
So...that does not make you supremely enlightened....what makes you supremely enlightened is if you are no longer able to experience even the slightest, smallest degrees of suffering....no longer experiencing even one nanosecond of the most infinitesmal degrees of suffering...

All of these things only makes this kid a good ascetic and doesn't measure if he's actually enlightened...

um... wasn't The Buddha against fasting?
Yeah he was, he said those extreme practices didn't do any good and to not take either extremes of asceticism nor the extremes of indulging in wordly activities...but the middle way

um... wasn't The Buddha against fasting?

Buddha was not against fasting, because he learned a significant ammount by fasting, and he eventually realized that he was weak, and he needed to eat right in order to meditate correctly. That doesn´t mean he was against it.

Yeah ive read about him before, ultimately whether or not he is the reincarnation of buddha, the guy has unbelievable discipline.
I dont think people realise how hard and meditation actually is - try sitting absolutely still for 1 hour with your mind completely clear of thoughts. I can barely make it to half and hour.
This kid meditates during an entire day, with barely (if any) food.

He does sound pretty enlightened either way, seems like hes entered the final stage of moral reasoning - realising everything is an end unto itself and not just a means to an end.
Generally comes across as an interesting bloke from what ive read about him, would be nice to have a natter with someone like that.

Well, I don´t think he is already enlightened, but I don´t dismiss the probability of he becoming enlightened in this life. As a matter a fact, if someone is going to be enlightened in this life, is this kid, he seems to be certain that he will accomplish it.

But yes, it would be really interesting to meet someone with these meditation capabilities & devotion; and he does come up with interesting things to say whenever he speaks.

That's an interesting proposition. How do you know my inner self isn't what you experience now? How do you know there's a self at all?

Because I have seen the tranquility and peace of mind a person achieves with a certain level of consciousness. Also, there is no fear of death, because the person knows were he come from and were he is going.

Also, when a person is awaken, his life energy is no longer manifested in the lower-sphere, which is the sexual. An awaken person becomes supra-sexual, a bramacharya, because the sexual energy is manifested in a higher sphere, which is consciousness.

Because I have seen the tranquility and peace of mind a person achieves with a certain level of consciousness. Also, there is no fear of death, because the person knows were he come from and were he is going.

Also, when a person is awaken, his life energy is no longer manifested in the lower-sphere, which is the sexual. An awaken person becomes supra-sexual, a bramacharya, because the sexual energy is manifested in a higher sphere, which is consciousness.
Nirvana is not tranquility and peace, it is the very highest bliss, the highest form of enjoyment, the highest form of happiness, not simply the tranquility and peace, peace and voidness are things of the sunyavadis (the worshippers of the void), unlimited freedom, power, and happiness are things of the upholders of the truth...

Nirvana is not tranquility and peace, it is the very highest bliss, the highest form of enjoyment, the highest form of happiness, not simply the tranquility and peace, peace and voidness are things of the sunyavadis (the worshippers of the void), unlimited freedom, power, and happiness are things of the upholders of the truth...

I agree my friend; but that what you say is happening in the inside of the person. What people can perceive in the outside, I guess it can be described as tranquility and peace of words and actions...

So...that does not make you supremely enlightened....what makes you supremely enlightened is if you are no longer able to experience even the slightest, smallest degrees of suffering....no longer experiencing even one nanosecond of the most infinitesmal degrees of suffering...
Thats nothing to do with enlightenment really imo, i think people take the credo of non-suffering slightly overly litteral.
I think its more about having an attitude of 'there for the grace of god go i' - Not just a good principle of enlightenment, but really just a good way for anyone to get through life without going insane.
I think what youre talking about is either complete brain-damage, or a sort of super human inability to physically or mentally suffer which doesnt actually exist in real life.

If one opens their mind, certain thoughts can be picked up from the Akashic Records (like Edgar Cayce did). The child may have that susceptibility. If he pursues that path, and declares that he is infact Buddha reincarnate, then he may lie - because the real Buddha is not coming back again from his Nirvana. [It is like a monkey had a chance to be a human and then decided to be a monkey again!]

Even if the kid says all the right things such as "I am here to save you" - he will not have that full knowledge of the Universe or even a nano part of it.

But he could grow up to be a nice person teaching Buddha's teaching and his followers will control him to make money and build gold temples.

If one opens their mind, certain thoughts can be picked up from the Akashic Records (like Edgar Cayce did). The child may have that susceptibility. If he pursues that path, and declares that he is infact Buddha reincarnate, then he may lie - because the real Buddha is not coming back again from his Nirvana. [It is like a monkey had a chance to be a human and then decided to be a monkey again!]

Even if the kid says all the right things such as "I am here to save you" - he will not have that full knowledge of the Universe or even a nano part of it.

But he could grow up to be a nice person teaching Buddha's teaching and his followers will control him to make money and build gold temples.

You are probably right there (=

But that doesn´t change the fact that that kid spent 10 months inside a tree, without food or water (at least he didn´t got out of the tree).
If he did ate, were the hell did he shitted? That would mean that tree is a little smelly right now (=.

I do believe in reencarnations, and I also believe a being in Nirvana can reencarnate in Earth if he wants to. That is the ultimate sacrifice for mankind.

It is also said that when a person reaches enlightment, like Gautama Buddha or Jesus Christ, has the oportunity to reencarnate 1 more time, but this time, without Karma, and full consciousness of past lives.
For me, that would explain the fact that Jesus said he will come back in the end of days. As well as Buddha said that he will come back one more time as Buddha Maitreya.

You are probably right there (=

Thank you

But that doesn´t change the fact that that kid spent 10 months inside a tree, without food or water

The lowly roach can withstand radiation, can go without food for several weeks, but only 3 to 4 days without water. So, I doubt a human can survive without water more than a week.

The survival rule of thumb is: 3 hours without shelter, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food.


I do believe in reencarnations, and I also believe a being in Nirvana can reencarnate in Earth if he wants to. That is the ultimate sacrifice for mankind.

I will go along with that. But in reality, once a person merges his or her consciousness with the supreme consciousness (whatever you may imagine this to be), it is very doubtful that person has individuality to come back. But the expression may trigger a life form to be born to fulfill that wish. I got this information from my guru who could do amazing things including reading ones mind, slowing down heart beat etc....

It is also said that when a person reaches enlightment, like Gautama Buddha or Jesus Christ, has the oportunity to reencarnate 1 more time, but this time, without Karma, and full consciousness of past lives.

See above. It is not possible without the permission of the big guy. Besides, individuality does not exist in the intelligence pool, just memories and experience that is absorbed...exception is that if the supreme consciousness wanted then the avatar can be isolated. It all depends on the big plan by the big guy.


For me, that would explain the fact that Jesus said he will come back in the end of days. As well as Buddha said that he will come back one more time as Buddha Maitreya.

It is nice to think that way. But in reality that is not logical.

Thank you

The lowly roach can withstand radiation, can go without food for several weeks, but only 3 to 4 days without water. So, I doubt a human can survive without water more than a week.

The survival rule of thumb is: 3 hours without shelter, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food.

I will go along with that. But in reality, once a person merges his or her consciousness with the supreme consciousness (whatever you may imagine this to be), it is very doubtful that person has individuality to come back. But the expression may trigger a life form to be born to fulfill that wish. I got this information from my guru who could do amazing things including reading ones mind, slowing down heart beat etc....

See above. It is not possible without the permission of the big guy. Besides, individuality does not exist in the intelligence pool, just memories and experience that is absorbed...exception is that if the supreme consciousness wanted then the avatar can be isolated. It all depends on the big plan by the big guy.

It is nice to think that way. But in reality that is not logical.

I believe in your words, and at the same time, I don´t. I will only have them in consideration, but not considering them as the "truth", but as a very well spoken opinion.

But I mean it, that kid didn´t got out of that tree in 10 months. Even the discovery channel filmed the tree for 4 days straight, and the kid didn´t come out of the tree, and nobody got 50 meters near it either. So he was there without food or water. Some skeptics argue that he eats some substance from the tree. But I´m having a hard time figuring out where the hell did that boy went to poop (=.

But I´m having a hard time figuring out where the hell did that boy went to poop (=.

Birds do it....poop from one branch to the ground.....

While things are possible...it is highly improbable....that is the nature of our universe.

Thats nothing to do with enlightenment really imo, i think people take the credo of non-suffering slightly overly litteral.
I think its more about having an attitude of 'there for the grace of god go i' - Not just a good principle of enlightenment, but really just a good way for anyone to get through life without going insane.
I think what youre talking about is either complete brain-damage, or a sort of super human inability to physically or mentally suffer which doesnt actually exist in real life.

I think the exact opposite...you think someone's enlightened because they act peaceful and act good, but are still able to become angry, fearful, sorrowful, etc....? That's the fake enlightenment, the fake image, the hippie-type image, the true dharma is lost in this age...no one actually reads what the truly enlightened ones of the past says....and for you thinking what I'm talking about is brain-damage or whatever man I'm speaking from personal experiences...its just like Gautama Buddha says when all desperation or craving (insecurities), or defiling impulses are gone what suffering can remain? But then again if I hadn't had my experiences I might think that this was crazy too....

But go on and believe this fake, type of pseudo-religious spiritual message of enlightenment simply being "acting good and peaceful"...even though in reality its more about enjoying every infinitesmal moment...the highest bliss...the reason enlightened beings appear peaceful and good is because they are experiencing the greatest happiness....ever notice how even a seemingly mean person acts good and nice when something good happens to them are they're really happy? It's the same type of thing...

what village in southern nepal is he in? i wonder if i could get some time out and go find him in the forest.

peace.

what village in southern nepal is he in? i wonder if i could get some time out and go find him in the forest.

peace.

Allegedly from Ratanapuri village, Bara district, Nepal.
But I don´t think it will be easy to find him now, they are in civil war you know.

Allegedly from Ratanapuri village, Bara district, Nepal.
But I don´t think it will be easy to find him now, they are in civil war you know.

that doesent bother me. i was expecting this to happen soon. i want to go and visit him,


peace.

that doesent bother me. i was expecting this to happen soon. i want to go and visit him,


peace.

Me too (=, but he is not talking to anyone right now. He said to his followers that people can come and join him in meditation, but he asked them not to disturb him. That is the reason why he left the tree, because people were comming from everywere to see him, and it was no longer a peacefull place for meditation, so he ran away to the forrest.
He said he is engaged in a devotion that will last for 6 more years. He also said that in 6 more years of deep meditation, he will become a Buddha.

Unless he is killed during the civil war :(

Me too (=, but he is not talking to anyone right now. He said to his followers that people can come and join him in meditation, but he asked them not to disturb him. That is the reason why he left the tree, because people were comming from everywere to see him, and it was no longer a peacefull place for meditation, so he ran away to the forrest.
He said he is engaged in a devotion that will last for 6 more years. He also said that in 6 more years of deep meditation, he will become a Buddha.

i dont want to disturb him. he will want to talk to me as much as i him. its been a long time,


peace.

Unless he is killed during the civil war :(

he wont be.


peace.

i dont want to disturb him. he will want to talk to me as much as i him. its been a long time,


peace.

Sariputta?....

im not his disciple. im not a buddha either yet. i need his help to remember something.

peace.

I think the exact opposite...you think someone's enlightened because they act peaceful and act good, but are still able to become angry, fearful, sorrowful, etc....? That's the fake enlightenment

I personally think what's fake is to believe you can completely transcend every human hang-up and frailty and become this mythical super-being.

The point isnt *never* to get angry, or sad, or pissed off, its simply to move through those emotions and not allowing them to control you.
I guess its possible you could some how erase your emotional-self by dabbling in hallucinogens and serious mediation (although id still be skeptical) but im really not sure why youd want to.
Emotions are rather helpful in many respects, and i really dont see how vanquishing your emotions-self you somehow become a higher grade of being by default.


whatever man I'm speaking from personal experiences...its just like Gautama Buddha says when all desperation or craving (insecurities), or defiling impulses are gone what suffering can remain? But then again if I hadn't had my experiences I might think that this was crazy too....
No i get exactly where youre comming from, i just think think youre being over-litteral about it all.

But go on and believe this fake, type of pseudo-religious spiritual message of enlightenment simply being "acting good and peaceful"...even though in reality its more about enjoying every infinitesmal moment..
Look its entirely upto you what brand of spiritualism you buy into, but i think like alot of people really mis-interpreting the message..

heres a quote from ol' chubby cheeks..

To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.

Notice the key word 'control', it isnt about being in a permanent state of doped-up bliss or emotional self-denial. Just dont let your emotions rule you, its really no more complicated than that. You dont need to turn it into this doctorine of hedonism.


the highest bliss...the reason enlightened beings appear peaceful and good is because they are experiencing the greatest happiness....ever notice how even a seemingly mean person acts good and nice when something good happens to them are they're really happy? It's the same type of thing...
Bliss is fleeting mate, dont spend your whole life chasing shadows.

I personally think what's fake is to believe you can completely transcend every human hang-up and frailty and become this mythical super-being.

The point isnt *never* to get angry, or sad, or pissed off, its simply to move through those emotions and not allowing them to control you.
I guess its possible you could some how erase your emotional-self by dabbling in hallucinogens and serious mediation (although id still be skeptical) but im really not sure why youd want to.
Emotions are rather helpful in many respects, and i really dont see how vanquishing your emotions-self you somehow become a higher grade of being by default.

No i get exactly where youre comming from, i just think think youre being over-litteral about it all.

Look its entirely upto you what brand of spiritualism you buy into, but i think like alot of people really mis-interpreting the message..

heres a quote from ol' chubby cheeks..

Notice the key word 'control', it isnt about being in a permanent state of doped-up bliss or emotional self-denial. Just dont let your emotions rule you, its really no more complicated than that. You dont need to turn it into this doctorine of hedonism.

Bliss is fleeting mate, dont spend your whole life chasing shadows.

Then why are you in the "Eastern Philosophy" category? Enlightment is no secret in this.

I personally think what's fake is to believe you can completely transcend every human hang-up and frailty and become this mythical super-being.
Nah, thats not fake, thats the truth...the problem is these pseudo-intellectuals, thinking they know the truth cannot comprehend how one can become like a super-being freed from all suffering, so because their intellect cannot comprehend how it can happen, they instead pervert the meaning, thinking they are the knower of all things....so in other words because these pseudo-intellectuals, who have never seen the truth cannot comprehend how something can be true, they instead conclude that it is symbolic or false...because they lack knowledge...


The point isnt *never* to get angry, or sad, or pissed off, its simply to move through those emotions and not allowing them to control you.
What you are talking about is suppression....you see when you are freed from all defiling impulses there will be no more anger, fear, or sorrow...because there can't be....you're thinking that someone is forcing themselves not to be angry...but there is no anger to speak of...because anger stems from a defiling impulse...in other words you won't be suppressing anger, there will be nothing to suppress...


I guess its possible you could some how erase your emotional-self by dabbling in hallucinogens and serious mediation (although id still be skeptical) but im really not sure why youd want to.
YOu aren't erasing your emotional-self, your erasing your insecurities, defiling impulses, the things that cause you suffering...


Emotions are rather helpful in many respects, and i really dont see how vanquishing your emotions-self you somehow become a higher grade of being by default.
Nah, emotions are a big waste of time...maybe useful to the animalistic...its no wonder Jesus, Buddha, and Krishna all say not to mourn for the dead...what good comes out of it?


No i get exactly where youre comming from, i just think think youre being over-litteral about it all.

Look its entirely upto you what brand of spiritualism you buy into, but i think like alot of people really mis-interpreting the message..

No, I think you and all the other pseudo-intellectuals are under-literal...because you cannot possibly understand it...


"The sorrows, lamentations,
the many kinds of suffering in the world,
exist dependent on something dear.
They don't exist
when there's nothing dear.
And thus blissful & sorrowless
are those for whom nothing
in the world is dear anywhere.
So one who aspires
to be stainless & sorrowless
shouldn't make anything
in the world dear
anywhere" (Udana 8.8)


heres a quote from ol' chubby cheeks..
Another misunderstanding from the typical pseudo-intellectual (Westerner)...Gautama Buddha was never fat...he was athletically fit his entire life...


Notice the key word 'control', it isnt about being in a permanent state of doped-up bliss or emotional self-denial.
This shows your lack of understanding...you're not suppressing yourself...if you were suppressing yourself and not being angry, fearful, sorrowful, etc...then you would be a liar, a fake, a pretender, because deep down you still have fear, sorrow, anger, etc....

Rather enlightenment is where there is no more fear, anger, sorrow, etc...deep down because the unconscious defiling impulses that cause these things are gone....but I wouldn't expect you to understand still....you're thinking that you'll be pretending to be happy...but if you're not truly happy in all aspects then its not real happiness...its just suppression...

If you're experiencing any suffering deep-down (unconsciously) or awaringly (consciously) then you're not enlightened....its pretty simple if you experience even the slightest extent of suffering then you know you're not supremely enlightened...


Just dont let your emotions rule you, its really no more complicated than that. You dont need to turn it into this doctorine of hedonism.
There will be no more defiling impulses (which cause suffering) to speak of...I wonder why you can't understand...


Bliss is fleeting mate, dont spend your whole life chasing shadows.
Material bliss is fleeting...the real, true happiness is eternal...

"Any sensual bliss in the world,
any heavenly bliss,
isn't worth one sixteenth-sixteenth
of the bliss of the ending of craving" (Udana 2.2)

Nah, thats not fake, thats the truth...the problem is these pseudo-intellectuals, thinking they know the truth cannot comprehend how one can become like a super-being freed from all suffering, so because their intellect cannot comprehend how it can happen, they instead pervert the meaning, thinking they are the knower of all things....so in other words because these pseudo-intellectuals, who have never seen the truth cannot comprehend how something can be true, they instead conclude that it is symbolic or false...because they lack knowledge...

Well youre entitled to think what you like of course, although id put forward that all the enlightened people that ive personally come across have been dedicated to relieving 'other people's suffering' rather than their own.



What you are talking about is suppression....you see when you are freed from all defiling impulses there will be no more anger, fear, or sorrow...because there can't be....

Not supression per se, just control. Ive no idea who you are in real life but i can garantee you'll have your off days. Its just a case of handling your emotions with dignity and moving through them imo.



YOu aren't erasing your emotional-self, your erasing your insecurities, defiling impulses, the things that cause you suffering...

Youre still motivated by your own desire though, youre chasing this dream of a life in which you never suffer. Ironically in alot of respets youre infinitely more trapped by your own desires than any materialist or hedonist.

Id personally question your motivation in all this, Why is your own suffering (or lack thereof) so central to you?


Nah, emotions are a big waste of time...maybe useful to the animalistic...its no wonder Jesus, Buddha, and Krishna all say not to mourn for the dead...what good comes out of it?
Emotions are great motivating principles, especially when youre dealing with empathy/compassion. Although yes id agree that some emotions can be next to useless, i.e. getting angry/upset about things beyond your control.

I just dont see the need to eradicate all human emotions apart from this banal state of happiness, or why you assume that your own happiness is more important than anyone elses.



Another misunderstanding from the typical pseudo-intellectual (Westerner)...Gautama Buddha was never fat...he was athletically fit his entire life...
Im not sure why you think any of this is indicative of pseudo-intellectualism, do you even know what pseudo-intellectualism is?
Its dazzling people with verbosity in place of brevity, its assuming knowledge that you dont have, or vastly over-estimating the importance of the knowledge you do have.
Im pretty sure i havent fallen into any of these traps, id put forward that you just dont like being challanged about what you hold to be true.



This shows your lack of understanding...you're not suppressing yourself...if you were suppressing yourself and not being angry, fearful, sorrowful, etc...then you would be a liar, a fake, a pretender, because deep down you still have fear, sorrow, anger, etc....
Exactly, this is my whole point, the absolutism youre subscribing to is really only going to lead you to become a great pretender.
Monasteries are absolutely littered with them, people 'playing' at being wise men while they actually indulge in their own hedonism.
I know a few people whove left monasteries altgother in digust of the complete self-denial and latent hypocracy.
Although im in no way saying that any buddhist by definition is somehow 'lost' , they'll always be a few that get it. But generally those sort of people flourish regardless of whether theyre given a bible a koran or a copy of the tao.



If you're experiencing any suffering deep-down (unconsciously) or awaringly (consciously) then you're not enlightened....its pretty simple if you experience even the slightest extent of suffering then you know you're not supremely enlightened...
Rubbish, and i'll tell you why.
You could achieve this mythical state of non-suffering and have done precisely nothing with your life but sit in the lotus position and read your sacred tomes, while contributing absolutely nothing to life.
However you could have severe emotional difficulties and be utterally self-less, commit yourself to the lives and well-beings of others.
I think this is the central point that alot of people miss, by being commited simply to your own suffering (or lack thereof) youre still utterally and completely imprisoned by your own desire. Youre just switched the desire to aquire the external with something internal.
Youre as self-centred as the caricatured 'materialist', the point is life isnt about *you* and untill you get that you wont be intelligent let alone 'wise'.

Rubbish, and i'll tell you why.
You could achieve this mythical state of non-suffering and have done precisely nothing with your life but sit in the lotus position and read your sacred tomes, while contributing absolutely nothing to life.
However you could have severe emotional difficulties and be utterally self-less, commit yourself to the lives and well-beings of others.
I think this is the central point that alot of people miss, by being commited simply to your own suffering (or lack thereof) youre still utterally and completely imprisoned by your own desire. Youre just switched the desire to aquire the external with something internal.
Youre as self-centred as the caricatured 'materialist', the point is life isnt about *you* and untill you get that you wont be intelligent let alone 'wise'.
No, this is another misunderstanding....if you become a Buddha, and achieve this perfection, you'll become a savior of the world and help people out WAAY more than anyone else on the entire earth...plus you'll have high-energy, a sense of fulfillment, and inner joy.....its not selfish at all...you'll become your true-self, who you really are, and contribute immensely.....everything will be basically the same except no suffering...all the best parts of you will be brought out...

You can definitely lead by example i wouldnt argue with that, but you either need to have lead a really quite awe-inspiring life, or be in possesion of some truely earth-shattering rhetoric, unveiling or perhaps 'reinventing' the old truths.
Simply relieving yourself of personal suffering isnt going to affect any sort of external change in itself, as im sure youre aware.

No, this is another misunderstanding....if you become a Buddha, and achieve this perfection, you'll become a savior of the world and help people out WAAY more than anyone else on the entire earth...plus you'll have high-energy, a sense of fulfillment, and inner joy.....its not selfish at all...you'll become your true-self, who you really are, and contribute immensely.....everything will be basically the same except no suffering...all the best parts of you will be brought out...

I totally agree here.