View Full Version : Aids on StarTrek


CounslerCoffee
01-16-03, 09:06 PM
Something that has always bothered me about the StarTrek universe was the fact that no one ever dealt with anyone having aids, getting cancer, being gay... These things happen every day, yet its never on the show! Why is that? I have created this thread because it appears that T'Pol (Jolene Blalock, Enterprise) will now be dealing with aids.

Jolene Blalock, who plays T'Pol in UPN's Enterprise, told SCI FI Wire that an upcoming episode will deal with an AIDS-themed story. "Our writers wrote an episode called 'Stigma,' in which T'Pol [Blalock] is dealing with an ailment that's very similar to AIDS," the actress said in an interview. "I had no control over who was going to play the sick character in the episode, so I was glad they went with T'Pol."

Oh yeah Click here. (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2003-01/16/11.00.tv)

Should ST be dealing with every day problems, or should it stay the way it is?

Gifted
01-17-03, 09:37 AM
ONe thing to remember is that military forces(verification, lease)try to limit homosexual behavior. If the Federation navy is like this, then they would have no reason to do this, unless they find a place like Athos. Otherwise, it depends on medical tech.

Neutrino_Albatross
01-17-03, 11:58 AM
Isnt T'pol the vulcan? How would a vulcan get aids? Dont they only have sex like once every 7 years?

Thor
01-17-03, 12:04 PM
They have sex?? :eek:

Gross

spacemanspiff
01-17-03, 12:55 PM
Haven't they curred all that stuff by then? Just because something is an issue now doesn't mean it will be in the 24th century or whenever they are.

ST never deals with any kind of issues. I kind of like it that way. It's a fantasy show. they always seem to imply that by then human kind has matured and that they live in this semi-uptopia with no hunger or poverty. and they never really explain how that happened(do they?)

It would be strange to see a TNG episode about some crew member coming out of the closest (not that there's anything wrong with that)

Nasor
01-17-03, 07:43 PM
I seem to recall an episode of 'next generation' in which the Enterprise visited a planet where all the aliens were homosexual (or some weird alien equivalent) and a heterosexual alien tried to get asylum on the Enterprise.

spacemanspiff
01-17-03, 08:04 PM
ahh, that's right. good one.

as i recall the alien was forced to conform with societies expectations in the end. she made this big speach about her life style being her personal choice that there wasn't anything wrong with her. but then they put her on some drugs to make her "normal".

so maybe Star Trek does try to relate to curent day issues..

Frieda
01-19-03, 01:46 PM
:D good one :D

who could be gay on TNG? data? lol.. or that girl with the short blonde hair.. what's her name..

CounslerCoffee
01-19-03, 02:43 PM
Will there be a gay character on enterprise? (Not TNG)

Jaxom
01-19-03, 03:17 PM
Remember the original Star Trek episode where they dealt with racism from an outsider's point of view (since supposedly racism by then for Earth was non-existant). The two sides of the species hated each other, and destroyed their world. At the end, Kirk asked why they fought so much if they were so much alike, and they state, "we're not alike at all. Can't you see the difference? He's black on the right, I'm black on the left."

I think the best ST episodes throughout were the ones that used the setting of the future to step back and look at today's and tomorrow's problems in a new light. Yes, the fighting ones were good too, but the ones that made you afterwards go, hmmmm....they were the best.

spacemanspiff
01-19-03, 07:58 PM
who could be gay on TNG? data? lol.. or that girl with the short blonde hair.. what's her name

umm, they slept with each other. so no.

Truenemo1889
01-19-03, 11:40 PM
Wasn't there an TNG episode once that dealt in a way with sexuality and sexual orientation? I think it was episode 117 "The Outcast". :confused:

Spector
01-31-03, 12:55 AM
I would think that so far into the future, ailments such as aids and cancer would have been long since delt with. I mean how often do we hear people bringing up the plague these days? Not often because its not something we're particularily affected by in our day to day lives. Unless you have the plague... which I don't think you do. As for homosexuality, hey maybe people will get over their homophobia on a large scale and it won't be such a taboo. I mean if its no longer socially frowned upon in their time, then why would the issue even be brought up?

DCLXVI
01-31-03, 10:30 PM
*Edit* Please don't speak like that.

Decoy
01-31-03, 10:37 PM
Or maybe u need a gf/bf ;-D
j/k bro

Anyways, Data had sex, several times even...so...
And I think they don't talk about homosexuality because they have more problems *Edit* Please don't repeat things like that.

DCLXVI
01-31-03, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by DCLXVI
*Edit* Please don't speak like that.

What? Why? What was wrong with what I said?

CounslerCoffee
01-31-03, 10:46 PM
You can say it, just rephrase what you said. Try to actually make a point and not say something random about lesbians.

DCLXVI
01-31-03, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by CounslerCoffee
You can say it, just rephrase what you said. Try to actually make a point and not say something random about lesbians.

This whole thread has revolved around homosexuality and sexuality in general on startrek, I stated that I wanted to see more of that particular subject. Not random but relevant to the topic.

I also made a comment about the way they seem to have no problems with interspecies relationships (also relevant to the topic), was it the word I used that offended you?

CounslerCoffee
01-31-03, 10:53 PM
The way you said DC, thats all. You could of said it any other way, and you just did. Just don't say it like that.

spacemanspiff
02-01-03, 03:54 AM
interspecies relationships are mentioned a couple of times. but i got the feeling that most of the species were "compatable" wich seems unrealistic to me. but how would i know what realistic is for 24th century space aliens.

Decoy
02-01-03, 11:19 AM
Methinks most species known in the StarTrek universe that have evolved to travel thrue space, are compatible by nature. Gene Roddenberry made a lil mistake concerning that methinks... Almost every race has 2 legs, 2 arms, 1 head, 1 body... So continueing on his monotomic point of view of the universe, everybody's compatible to everyone. Its just one of those things they didn't think out well enough, and so, questions are raised now.