Yasin promises revenge (http://english.aljazeera.net/Articles/News/ArabWorld/Defiant+Shaik+Yasin+promises+revenge.htm) :

I am quite shocked that Israel is having this Oth-attitude here , and I think Ahmad is pretty shocked as well :

The Israeli enemy have lost their minds completely

Their attacks on Hamas leaders , now even on Yasin himself are amazing , and knowing Arik he surely has a plan for his effords .

Ofcourse we should start with Abbas who has now resigned , which prevented the internal conflict within PLO to explode (or to be won by Abbas) and drive Palestine into civil war , as was clearly Israels intention with this road-map all along .

This obviously was failing , Abbas his resignation is the evidence of this . So what is Israel trying to do now ? Are they willing ti engage a total war on Hamas (which means the Palestinian people) to still get their way on the territories ? Afterall their seizement was the goal eventually through civil war as well , but alot easier and "cleaner" for Israel .

That option failed , so what now ?

Sharon called Hamas leaders marked for death , and obviously the threat on Arafat should be taken seriously , something that would completely make the situation explode :

Silvan Shalom : The expulsion of Arafat is, as I have already said, the inevitable result of what he has done to provoke the fall of Mahmud Abbas

Shaul Mofaz : I think Israel made a historic mistake by not expelling him about two years ago

So what will they do ? I think this might be the time for the new wave of Israeli ethnic cleansement as they are traditionally (in those 56 years that is) known for , how would neighbouring countries react to this ? Could they even react with US presence in Iraq , who would dare ?

:(

Some people have such a profound hatered of coffie shops and city busses that they just have to blow them up.

and "martyrdom" they shall receive :)

man... what a victory it could have been...
yassin, rantisi, deif, and 2 others, all in one strike.

oh well. their days are numbered anyways, now that Israel received the "green light" from the EU, by branding hamas in its entirety as a terrorist entity.

run cockroaches, run! you'll be shahids soon! :))
allah akbar

otheadp after meeting you I'm starting to wonder if it was bad Hitler's project was halted before he got ya'll.

Oh well don't worry. Your hatred will fuel their and vice versa and both parties hopefully will kill each other and the rest of the world can move on.

please, don't be fooled by baboon-man's rhetoric

make no mistake. hamas is NOT the palestinian people (if there is such a people anyway, but that's another discussion)
hamas is the greatest enemy of the palestinian people and the greatest obstacle to peace. until their latest "martyrdom operation" in jerusalem that killed 22 people, the "road map" was moving forward. slowly, but it was moving. then hamas stepped in and ruined everything (yet again).

so i say again to hamas: "run cockroaches, run! your days are numbered" :D

Originally posted by kajolishot
otheadp after meeting you I'm starting to wonder if it was bad Hitler's project was halted before he got ya'll.


That is just plain sick! Particularly so when you read the hate-filled, racist postings of some posters on this board.

Originally posted by otheadp
...oh well. their days are numbered anyways, now that Israel received the "green light" from the EU, by branding hamas in its entirety as a terrorist entity.

run cockroaches, run! you'll be shahids soon! :))
allah akbar I don’t think so!

The only day that Israel could complete their occupation will be the day when Israel has wiped out all the Palestinians. That day will never come and so, Israel will never ever rest in peace.

….And insults to the Palestinian cause will not do it either. So… Keep counting!
:rolleyes:

Not all Israelis are bigots, and those not blinded by ridiculous tribalistic hate will share the Mideast peacefully with their cousins, once the now-powerful jingoists and supremacists on all sides are discredited by the destruction and decline they always bring.


The harder they come,
The harder they fall-
One and all.

Who said that day will never come??? Have you seen some of the more extremist agendas?

Picture this tecno-fascist bad dream that I had:

First you build a wall around all the conquered and fertile land (that part is actually happening as we speak) , than you start slowly outbreed and expel the other guy within the walls, of course you need to equip all your civilians with a subcoutanioues microchip that carries your kosher certificate, so people at the gates can easily distinguish you from potential bomb-carrying martyrs (freedom fighters/terrorists, whatever you like to call 'm depending wich side of the fence you live) and let you in and out...

Brave new World!, only plz watch out if you leave the fortress, they will wait for you outside ...

:bugeye:


Does anybody believe here that this american roadmap is still alive, if it ever was in the first place?

kajolishot : I'm starting to wonder if it was bad Hitler's project was halted before he got ya'll

The greatest error the Arabs have made was a moral one , regarding the difference between a Jew and a Zionist .

Not only this goes for the Arab Jews in our Islamic countries , but for Yiddish Jews in Europe and Amerika as well .

Hitlers project was a Jewish project that dealt with culture , religion (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=426288#post426288) and supposed race more than anything else .

Look who he got :

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/images/holocaust/ww2-nazibarber.jpg

*How did u call them again Oth , monkeys ?*

Look who he didnt get :

http://israelimages.com/medium/11016.jpg

Guess who ..... is it a Nazi or is it a Jew ?

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/images/righitgoldberg.jpg

"Ideal German Soldier" they called him .

So lets not confuse Oth and his kind of peoples with the peoples that suffered from Hitler . It was not their holocaust , they merely hijacked it as they hijack everything else like an identity and a land .

The confusement only results in increasement of their strength , they need to be a Jew ........ otherwise they are just like any other racist and delusional nation threatning peace .

Clockwood : Some people have such a profound hatered of coffie shops and city busses that they just have to blow them up.

If you have nothing to say but feel the urge to express yourself please go to http://chat.msn.com , dont pollute my thread .

truth : That is just plain sick! Particularly so when you read the hate-filled, racist postings of some posters on this board.

Bullshit it is nothing but an error easily made when emotions come in the way in a situation where zionists do everything they can to be called Jews .

What is plain sick is that in 2003 there is active colonism and conquering of land , ethnic cleansement , walls around countries , apartheid based on a racial ideology of the kind who were hot in the 30's .

Supporting this in a situation where all the information is availabe , from detailed analysis to statistics to videos to guides through moral theories , when everything you need to condemn this behaviour and distance yourself from such peoples is there to be known by you , and you refuse this out of complete ignorance (as you dont even have specific emotional attachement to Israel or do you ?) ....... that is what is truly sick .

Microzoft : The only day that Israel could complete their occupation will be the day when Israel has wiped out all the Palestinians.

Even that would not be enough as Arabs are the second level to be dealt with then which leads to the third : Islam .

They can ethnic cleanse the entire peninsula and settle there , no peace will they get as long as Muslims are alive and around .

Its a moral issue they only make worse .

hypewaters : Not all Israelis are bigots, and those not blinded by ridiculous tribalistic hate will share the Mideast peacefully with their cousins, once the now-powerful jingoists and supremacists on all sides are discredited by the destruction and decline they always bring.

Unless the "Israeli" acknowledges his history and actual status , and takes responsibility for it , nobody will live in peace .

Do you think this is driven by tribalistic hate ? This whole zionist concept is everything but tribalistic , the enemy's of the Palestinian peoples are not some Ultra-Orthodox as zionism tries to present it , the enemy is modern DEMOCRATIC western society that has been created on blood and possesions of the native peoples and is still occupying them in their new habitat , the refugeecamps of Gaza and WB . The IDF is no "tribal" institution driven by hate , its a modern organized murder machine that has no moral or emotion .

Cousins ? They are not even family of themselves , how are they our cousins ? Because they started talking Hebrew 80 years ago ?

Vortex : of course you need to equip all your civilians with a subcoutanioues microchip that carries your kosher certificate, so people at the gates can easily distinguish you

Well they rather deal with non-kosher certificates through genes :

Israeli ethnic bomb (http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/1998/404/eg2.htm)

But all this nothing new , they have ethnic cleansed 700.000 peoples , they have used biological weapons to prevent their return , and just look at todays situation ....

Its not if its when

otheadp : now that Israel received the "green light" from the EU

Who says Israel depends on any "green light" from EU ? They dont even depend on any green light from Amerika .

make no mistake

sounds like Bushie

hamas is NOT the palestinian people

Hamas is supported in their struggle by 85% of the peoples in the occupied territories , while 25% are enlisted with Hamas as members .

How about Fatah-PLO , Arafat ?

if there is such a people anyway, but that's another discussion

a discussion that has been , the conclusions are clear :

* A historical physical existance that caused todays actuality through reproduction .
* A historical identity's existance since the Khaliph .

All this doesnt go for you mr wannabe-Hebrew .

hamas is the greatest enemy of the palestinian people and the greatest obstacle to peace

Its like hearing Goebbels talk about the enemy of the Jewish peoples .

until their latest "martyrdom operation" in jerusalem that killed 22 people, the "road map" was moving forward. slowly, but it was moving. then hamas stepped in and ruined everything (yet again).

The blame game is old and nobody cares , blame it on hamas blame it on non-existing Palestinians blame it on Arabs on Muslims on whoever you want , our goal is your destruction and there is little you can change about that through violence .

so i say again to hamas

If I were you Id call those other pseudo-Hebrew friends of yours to hear their voices for perhaps the last time as Hamas will strike as never before , sure this will lead in more insanity by the zionists , but tell me how exactly are you helping your peoples by forcing Hamas to do what is within their ideological right ?

The only thing that holds Hamas back from striking for destruction instead of political retalliation is the fear to be destroyed , do you not understand that when you affirm their deaths already and call for their destruction , this fear will dissapear ?

A dirty on TA , can you imagine all the fun Oth ?

otheadpt .......You say "hamas is NOT the palestinian people " but they are part of them. How can you state that Hamas isn't a part of the people that live in the country they call Palistine? That''s rediculous! If they weren't part of the country then the others could remove them as illeagle "foreigners" . If the people of Palistine don't want Hamas then why don't they just put them in jail or deport them for the Hamas are terrorists aren't they?

Hamas is supported in their struggle by 85% of the peoples in the occupied territories , while 25% are enlisted with Hamas as members .

How about Fatah-PLO , Arafat ?

where do you get your numbers, Ahmed? there are 400 hardcore fighters in hamas. the rest are youths who go to demonstrations or "events".

their support is somewhere among 20-or-so percent. i saw it in a poll.

our goal is your destruction
our? OUR? you're barely even an arab, let alone "palestinian".
come on. let it go. find another "just cause" like saving the whales or something. go chain yourself to a tree. you seem like you have a strong urge to do so... besides, you'll feel much more comfortable on a tree...being a baboon and all that.

"our goal" this and "our goal" that. why don't u do something about it you loudmouth?

make no mistake. hamas is NOT the palestinian people (if there is such a people anyway, but that's another discussion)


I love subjectivity, don't you? If I am not mistaken Mr. Abbas was not elected PM of the P.A yet somehow he has legitimacy? Get over it man, Abbas had legit. with whom? Sharon, Bushie, and maybe the EU. I mean now we have one of Arafat's greatest friends in the P.A becoming P.M, also unelected. I would say that Israel is scared shitless of a actual Pals. defence force viable enough to encure damage beyond Israel's grasp.

abbas was recommended and elected by the palestinian parliament (legislative council? or whatever fancy name they call themselves)

Othead: where do you get your numbers, Ahmed?

When you try to insult someone dont use words of praise , it has the opposite effect .

there are 400 hardcore fighters in hamas

Its intersting how your conclusion would be that Hamas has more schools than it has fighters .

Anyways Hamas isnt Izz Al Deen Al Qassam or Yahya Ayyash , and those militia's have a little bit more than 400 fighters , do you make those numbers up yourself ?

the rest are youths who go to demonstrations or "events".

No the rest are not youths , you show again how little u know about the things you talk about . And aside of that youths are rather relevant when you are running hundreds of schools .

their support is somewhere among 20-or-so percent. i saw it in a poll.

The political support (as in identify with Hamas ideology) was at the start of the intifada 21% , it has increased and unfortunatly I made the mistake confuse political support with enlistment , which as I already said doesnt mean enlistment in the military fraction . A war against Hamas is not the same as a war against Al Qassam .

The 85% I spoke of dealt with the support of the resistance actions , which as you ought to know have Al Qassam as their centre .

But all of this bullshit on detalis goes beyond the point you tried to make that Hamas doesnt represent Palestinian peoples . Their struggle (and that would be quite relevant I say) is supported the vast majority , and their ideology by a relevant amount . They form a social basis in the occupied territories and many peoples depend on the organization .

Your attempts to make Hamas look like some left-over militia with couple of fighters that have little to do with the peoples , is ridiculous and hilarious to anyone who has actually have a clue on what Hamas is , unlike you .

The fatc that you are raised in Israel and have been confronted with this situation daily should have motivated a genius like yourself to find out some shit .

On the other hand what can we expect from a 14 year old

Just what the hell does Hamas want anyway? Isn't it the same thing Arafat wanted when he was using the PLO to terrorize Israel? They seem to be of the same ilk. Hamas is just a extortionist group trying to gain power and control as did Arafat. These Arabs seem bent on destroying Israel but do VERY LITTLE to help their own people.

These Arabs seem bent on destroying Israel but do VERY LITTLE to help their own people.

* The other Arab governments dont give a shit for Palestinian peoples whatsoever .

* Hamas is doing more than PA these days , Hamas is originally and basicly a social institution who runs schools and healthcare .

Just what the hell does Hamas want anyway? Isn't it the same thing Arafat wanted when he was using the PLO to terrorize Israel? They seem to be of the same ilk. Hamas is just a extortionist group trying to gain power and control as did Arafat.

Everybody tries to gain power and controll I dont see how that makes them extortionist anymore than anyother .

Its a bit strange that you ask what Hamas wants , I woulod say it is beyond obvious . And aside of the obviousness of Hamas desires , what is less obvious and just as real is that Hamas has been pushed in a position of power competing against PLO by Israel . Hamas serves zionist purposes , that is why they exist in the first place .

look man, just because Hamas helps people monitarily does not mean that ppl agree with their "martyrdom operations" or idiology.

it's like a jewish or muslim homeless guy going to a church to get a free meal.
the jewish community center not far from my house has black, chinese and all kinds of other non-jewish members.

hamas's political support is 20-something %. but i suspect since the jerusalem bombing it dropped severely since right after it, the hardships that REGULAR INNOCENT palestinians felt came back.

Abbas's way (negotiating) was working, and hamas ruined it. no, not izz-a din al-qassam.. but the entire hamas. where do u think the qassams get their orders from?

otheadp : look man, just because Hamas helps people monitarily does not mean that ppl agree with their "martyrdom operations" or idiology. it's like a jewish or muslim homeless guy going to a church to get a free meal.
the jewish community center not far from my house has black, chinese and all kinds of other non-jewish members.

Nobody is saying that their appreciation for help is because they approve with any ideology , the ideologic approving has got little to do with that . The approvel shows from the polls and it is common knowledge to anyone who has awareness of Islamic-Arabic culture .

The martyrdom operations are supported weither they are carried out by Hamas or by Islamic Jihad or by Fatah (independant of any social activities) , this does not only go in Palestine this goes throughout the Arabic world . This deals with support of armed resistance , not with religious/ideological support for their overal program . That support is the one you mention next :

hamas's political support is 20-something %. but i suspect since the jerusalem bombing it dropped severely since right after it, the hardships that REGULAR INNOCENT palestinians felt came back.

Last year when they polled it , it turned out 21% for Hamas and 9% for Islamic Jihad . It has increased during the intifada , my estimation of 25% is rather on the low side .

Again this does not deal with support for the martyrdom operations , this deals with support for an Islamic state and the Salafi jursidiction hamas stands for . This is what a person would vote , this has nothing to do with the overal support for bombings like the one you mention .

With regards to the specific recent attack against a Jerusalem bus during the Hudna, 48.3% of Gazans and 47.2% of West Bankers thought it was a good move while 46.4% of Gazans and 44.9% of West Bankers thought it wasn't a good move. 74.6% supported the position that the attack was due to Israeli violations of the Hudna.

60.2% Support Attacks Now
88.8% Oppose Detaining Hamas/Islamic Jihad

September 3-2003 (http://imra.org.il/story.php3?id=18147)

I think you are a little bit confused with how Palestinians experience the resistance and how this relates to supporting Hamas in its actions or in its ideology .

You need this confusement , without it you would never speak of "innocent Palestinians" ..

Abbas's way (negotiating) was working, and hamas ruined it. no, not izz-a din al-qassam.. but the entire hamas. where do u think the qassams get their orders from?

Abbas was pulling Palestine into a civil war , Arafat did the right thing to stop him . Hamas attacked because its organization was under fire , or do you actually deny that Israel during the Hudna was killing Hamas militants ?

And its not the response , or reaction itself that has anything to do with the issue of a difference between Hamas and Al Qassam . Aside of this , do not think that merely because it is one organization there isnt a huge powerstruggle within , do you think Al Qassam cannot operate independantly of Yassin or Zahar ?

It is not that I dont agree with the logics in the policy from your position , afterall I dont mind killing Israeli political leaders either eventhough they arent the generals commanding attacks (well Arik used to be but nevertheless) . The issue is that you have be honest and admit a difference , weither you decide to attack both of them or not .

But honesty has been the greatest taboo ever for zionists and their state hasnt it ?

sept. 3.... when was the jerusalem attack?
i can't possibly believe that gazans of all ppl, where the IDF withdrew 1st, would support suicide bombings after their hardships were gone.

after the jerusalem attack and the retaliations, maybe. but not before.

....
the only "civil war" would be the innocent palestinians who just want to carry out with their lives against armed, fanatic, bloodthirsty hamas savages... which would be a slaughter.

regular pal's are afraid of hamas. nobody wants to end up like a "zionist collaborator"...since these supposed collaborators don't receive a trial or anything like that. all it takes is someone to say "you're a collaborator".. and it's off with his head.

re: assasinating Zahar or Yassin, cut off the head of the snake and the body will die too.
sure, the Qassams can operate independently but they'll be just a stupid death cult with no particular goal. imo they're already such a cult but since they have "leaders" they're fooling the world into believing that they're some kind of "organization" while its nothing but a death cult.

btw, when i write "Hamas" i refer to all their ilk...i.e. Jihad Islami, Fatah and all dem sweet hearts.

PFLP and DFLP have been kind of quiet lately. interesting...

the only "civil war" would be the innocent palestinians who just want to carry out with their lives against armed, fanatic, bloodthirsty hamas savages... which would be a slaughter.

Im not sure you are aware of the implications of a Palestinian civil war . Abbas wanted authority over the Palestinian security forces in order to disarm the resistance : This would not have been accepted by anyone and they would defend themselves .

Give your Hamas demonization a rest dude , there is absolutely no issue that dealt with what you are saying .....

regular pal's are afraid of hamas. nobody wants to end up like a "zionist collaborator"...since these supposed collaborators don't receive a trial or anything like that. all it takes is someone to say "you're a collaborator".. and it's off with his head.

Whats your point with this ? 25% supports them as Salafi and about everybody else just likes what they are doing to Israel , do think this is all because they fear somuch to be a zionist collaborateur ? It is clear you have not ever seen a refugee-camp in your life , or have any general idea how it is to live in their and how it is to have peoples go out and fight your enemies , those who are responsible for the shitty refugeecamp life .

assasinating Zahar or Yassin, cut off the head of the snake and the body will die too.

Yeah right :rolleyes:

Funny man , have u got any idea of the international body of Hamas and how easy it is to replace an idiot with another ? Im sorry but there are MILLIONS of peoples who are just as capable of leading in the manner Dr.Zahar does .

And what the hell does Yassin do ? As if he is of any relevance other than symbolical and religious , or do you think that allofasudden everybody forgets how to operate the AK when the Sheikh has dissapeared ? Seriously this simplicism is beyond amazing ........

sure, the Qassams can operate independently but they'll be just a stupid death cult with no particular goal. imo they're already such a cult but since they have "leaders" they're fooling the world into believing that they're some kind of "organization" while its nothing but a death cult.

What the hell does your personal dislike of Al Qassams structure (as you imagine it) to do with the fact that they are not harmed in anyway by making Zahar or Yassin or whoever go away ?

Look at Iraq man , why is there still Fedayeen ? Another death-cult I suppose :rolleyes:

btw, when i write "Hamas" i refer to all their ilk...i.e. Jihad Islami, Fatah and all dem sweet hearts.

Abbas is member of Fatah , but thank you for showing that it really doesnt matter who represents the Palestinians for everybody is considered ik by you .

Im sorry we couldnt get a willing camel for you to negotiate with .

PFLP and DFLP have been kind of quiet lately. interesting...

Point ? What suspisions do you have oh great zionist genius ?

Originally posted by Ghassan Kanafani
Give your Hamas demonization a rest dude

:eek: :confused:

i'm sorry, i didn't mean to demonize Hamas
:confused:
them being such humanitarians and all that....

For once Otheadp , just for once try to objective for just a little bit even . It is obvious that everything coming from you about Hamas is rooted in a bias comparable to some kid who lost his entire family to a Hamas bombing .

I understand perhaps you might even have lost friends or know people who lost people , but shit man this isnt about you , this is about millions of peoples in a period of decades .

Can you try to look at things from that perspective ? How much did Hamas kill and how much did Hamas help , can you put one next to another ?

Can you compare it to your own movement ?

If the ruling party of Palistine is affraid to go into the Hamas controlled areas then let Israel go in and destroy them. That way the ruling party of Palistine won't have to get their hands dirty in trying to get rid of a very bad problem. Why hasn't Arrafat gone in and tried to get Hamas to stop? Why hasn't Arrafat done anything to stop the terrorists from bombing Israel? Why hasn't anyone stopped Hammas from Palistine...because Hammas scares everyone in Palistine but they don't scare the Israelies at all.

Originally posted by Ghassan Kanafani
For once Otheadp , just for once try to objective for just a little bit even . It is obvious that everything coming from you about Hamas is rooted in a bias comparable to some kid who lost his entire family to a Hamas bombing .

I understand perhaps you might even have lost friends or know people who lost people , but shit man this isnt about you , this is about millions of peoples in a period of decades .

Can you try to look at things from that perspective ? How much did Hamas kill and how much did Hamas help , can you put one next to another ?

Can you compare it to your own movement ?

you're just too funny

cosmictraveler

You ask pretty ignorant questions if we would assume that one reads the thread he replies on .

PLO-Fatah has no fear for Hamas in military sense , Hamas simply is not its enemy . Hamas is not the enemy of the Palestinian people , Hamas is not the one occupying Palestine Hamas is part of Palestine like all Islamic and non-Islamic resistance groups are a part of Palestine .

Arafat has no business in stopping Hamas , the peoples of Palestine DO NOT WANT HAMAS TO BE STOPPED .

88.8% Oppose Detaining Hamas/Islamic Jihad

Please go back to page one and re-read my thread .

The bombers of Israel are fighters for freedom of Palestine and if you call them terrorist then be ready to call 88.8% of the Palestinian peoples in the territories terrorists . .

You dont seem to have any idea of Palestinian , Arab and Muslim perspective on the peoples you point out in this issue and lable as terrorists .

You see playing these semantics game only results in peoples adapting the change accepting the name and moving on .

Fear of Hamas .......... yes Arafat fears Hamas politically as they have been growing in social sense and symbolical (resistance) sense in the peoples hearts . Arafat fears that next election will result in power for Yassin instead of Yassir . Arafat fears he can go back in the underground with his 74 years instead of leading a recognized authority .

Fatah can whipe out Hamas any second if that would be their desires , but who are they fighting ? Their own peoples ? For who for Israel ? Hamas is a peoples movement , Hamas has hundreds of thousands loyal followers . Should Arafat bow down and let Abbas take the 35.000 strong security forces and ethnic cleanse some Salafi followers ?

And what about Islamic Jihad ? Should they ethnic cleanse the Shia as well ? Or how about THEIR OWN WING Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades ? Should they start comitting sucide for Israel ?

How stupid do you think people are ? Rather they should do what they are threatened with and assasinate the entire exile-alliance including Arik .

you're just too funny

So its obvious you cant . Toobad . I asked you and you showed you are not capable .

Fine with me but why discuss then ? Why no go sit in front of your tv and chear for your team ? It would fit your relation to the issues much better dont you think ?

Originally posted by Ghassan Kanafani
For once Otheadp , just for once try to objective for just a little bit even .

Yeah, come on Oth, can't you be be objective and rational like Ghassan. His arguments are completely free of bias and racism and Arab/Palestinian proganda. :rolleyes: :D :rolleyes:

yea man. i should be more objective and approve hamas's tactics, goals, fanaticism, distortion of their religion, ruining every attempt of reconcilliation and a solution to the conflict every chance they get, etc...

where is my head...

as for ghassan's views on hamas and how this organization is viewed on the palestinian street, man, you're dillussional! you're confusing it with your own view on this group.
WHERE do you get these stupid ideas? i just don't understand.

Yeah, come on Oth, can't you be be objective and rational like Ghassan. His arguments are completely free of bias and racism and Arab/Palestinian proganda

Show and prove the incorrectness or logical fallacies or whatever in what I am saying or hold your ignorance to yourself .

Your lack of awareness is humiliating to you if you would be aware of it .

You're not , good for you . Maybe u can go walk around the streets naked someday as well .

i should be more objective and approve hamas's tactics, goals, fanaticism, distortion of their religion, ruining every attempt of reconcilliation and a solution to the conflict every chance they get, etc...

You should aswer the question being asked instead of disproving irellevant matters .

as for ghassan's views on hamas and how this organization is viewed on the palestinian street, man, you're dillussional! you're confusing it with your own view on this group.
WHERE do you get these stupid ideas? i just don't understand.

Why dont you just random type Oth ? Why do you even attempt to give your words any meaning ? What exacly is delusional about the view on Hamas ? How exactly am i being wrong ? Just disproving the whole matter by calling it delusional and ending with the fact that you just dont understand should give you and idea of the amazing amount of ignorance you posses on this entire issue .

Save yourself the embaresment dude , its ridiculous

man, you're hillarious.
do u get orgasms debating all these things or something? we've discussed everything already. just go browse previous threads.
u keep bringing same ol' topics up.

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