since a few threads in this site seem to me to be a bash Africa and all black people thread, and i being black, I got to defend myself and my people :bugeye: lol

I was under the impression that we kept the racists here around purely for entertainment reasons.

I lived in Africa for a decade when I was younger. It is a beautiful continent. The biggest problem in Africa is the failure of their Governments since independence. The people have been badly let down by corruption, which is so common that people don't hide the fact that they are doing it. And because so many people have so little, corruption is extremely tempting.

On the other hand the people there can be so friendly its amazing how much they can laugh and smile considering thier situation. Makes me wonder why so many people here in the UK are so miserable, despite all they have.

Uh. . . i think i double posted again. how does one delete a thread (i created two threads by mistake).
opps guys.

Yeah I lived there all my life until I moved to the US at a younger age too. And it suprised me how little people know about africa. I spent my first 6 months telling people we don't live in trees and neither do we ride elephants.

The bad government is the biggest problem but then these nations were badly carved.
Imagine Nigeria for example. The nation is divided into three different huge ethnic groups that have totally nothing in common, several languages are spoken and once you drive 30 minutes away from your town it's like you're a whole new world,
there are two conflicting religions (christianity and islam), and the list goes on. there's always some group clashing with another and fighting for power.

apart from the corrupt govt. and the harsh economy (that affects everything including how much education people get) Africa is indeed beautiful and it's sad that people have these horrible views.http://www.icsw.org/publications/sdr/2003-march/images/African-girl.jpg

..., and i being black, I got to defend myself and my people.

Ye're going to defend all black people? Even vicious, black murderers? ...just 'cause their black?

Damn, you're more racist than anyone else here at sciforums!!

Baron Max

even with all these. Nigerians were named the happiest people on earth


Nigeria tops happiness survey
"A new study of more than 65 countries published in the UK's New Scientist magazine suggests that the happiest people in the world live in Nigeria - and the least happy, in Romania.

People in Latin America, Western Europe and North America are happier than their counterparts in Eastern Europe and Russia.


HAPPINESS AROUND THE WORLD
# The happiest
Nigeria
Mexico
Venezuela
El Salvador
Puerto Rico
# The least happy
Russia
Armenia
Romania
Source: New Scientist

Nigeria has the highest percentage of happy people followed by Mexico, Venezuela, El Salvador and Puerto Rico, while Russia, Armenia and Romania have the fewest.

But factors that make people happy may vary from one country to the next with personal success and self-expression being seen as the most important in the US, while in Japan, fulfilling the expectations of family and society is valued more highly.

The survey appears to confirm the old adage that money cannot buy happiness.


PATH TO HAPPINESS
Genetic propensity to happiness
Marriage
Make friends and value them
Desire less
Do someone a good turn
Have faith (religious or not)
Stop comparing your looks with others
Earn more money
Grow old gracefully
Don't worry if you're not a genius

The researchers for World Values Survey described the desire for material goods as "a happiness suppressant".

They say happiness levels have remained virtually the same in industrialised countries since World War II, although incomes have risen considerably.

The exception is Denmark, where people have become more satisfied with life over the last three decades.

The study was carried out in 1999-2001 and published for the first time by New Scientist this week.

Consumerism

Researchers believe the unchanging trend is linked to consumerism.

"New Zealand ranked 15 for overall satisfaction, the US 16th, Australia 20th and Britain 24th - although Australia beats the other three for day-to-day happiness," New Scientist says.

The survey is a worldwide investigation of socio-cultural and political change conducted about every four years by an international network of social scientists.

It includes questions about how happy people are and how satisfied they are with their lives.

Although such surveys are not new, they are being increasingly taken into account by policy makers, the magazine says."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3157570.stm


Money does not buy happiness.

Well, golly, with all of that, it seems that Africa doesn't need our help. In fact, with all that, perhaps we should be asking Africa to help us!

Baron Max

I spent my first 6 months telling people we don't live in trees and neither do we ride elephants.
God, I know what you mean!

I left at the age of 11, I go back ever few years though. My own experiance was in Zambia:
http://www.wildland.com/trips/details/Images/zah_victoria-falls-aerial_b.jpg

Maybe unhappiness is a motivator to get things done.

I think it will do some people more good to accept the fact that there is diversity in the world and not everyone is like them.

fretting over petty stuff like this decreases happiness because you'll always be apprehensive over what you don't need to be worried about.

Baron, have you ever met any african or black? how many and what were your experiences. TV and internet files don't cut it. you have to see to believe sometimes.
have you ever been to an African country or maybe a south american country ?

Nigerians were named the happiest people on earth


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Isn't Nigeria a war zone that tourist tend to avoid though?

Yeah I lived there all my life until I moved to the US at a younger age too. And it suprised me how little people know about africa. I spent my first 6 months telling people we don't live in trees and neither do we ride elephants.


It's like that with everywhere. I always have to explain to people that in Egypt people don't ride camels, they have cars, and they don't wear little skirts like the ancient Egyptians. I think it's funny that people really belive this stuff.

there currently isn't a war in Nigera (even though there might be one in the near future) but there are ethnic clashes - something that happens when you bunch people who have nothing in common together.

despite all these, Nigerians are happy (we criticize the govt. and all that but at the end of the day, we come together and laugh about things and are satisfied with our lives).
You have to live there (you probably won't want to) to believe it.

since a few threads in this site seem to me to be a bash Africa and all black people thread, and i being black, I got to defend myself and my people :bugeye: lol
I'm surprised that you have trivialised such a complex issue by such a generalised broad sweeping title.

Firstly I find it strange how africa seems to be lumped together in some homogenous entity by western-euro centric perspectives, yet the same rationale is never applied to europe, where each country maintains it's own identity. germany would never be compared with italy, or england, or the czech republic by such generalised thinking as the west is so eager to apply to "africa"
If europe can be such a diverse and complex entity, then africa equally is as diverse and complex, even more so.
The issue has to be dealt with on the basis of individual countries in africa.

there currently isn't a war in Nigera (even though there might be one in the near future) but there are ethnic clashes - something that happens when you bunch people who have nothing in common together.[QUOTE/]

despite all these, Nigerians are happy (we criticize the govt. and all that but at the end of the day, we come together and laugh about things and are satisfied with our lives).
You have to live there (you probably won't want to) to believe it..





Ah OK. All I was meaning though is Nigeria is know as a danger zone in the UK and I thought high violence and happiness usually make poor bed fellows. Although how reliable is the study anyway? I mean how do you equate happiness? go around asking everyone if they are happy and check they haven't a painted on smile?

I agree with you Outlandish.

There are about 61 countries in Africa even though I don't think they are legitimate.
Identity in Africa can only be specified by ethnicity because like i said earlier, nations were just lumped and barged together by the early colonists.
Take Italy for example, most speak italian have their italian cultures e.t.c
and take Britain, they speak english and have their culture.

imagine part of italy, part of britain, part of germany and a little part of china lumped together to form one country. will that country be stable?
That's how most African countries are:

"colonization had a destabilizing effect on what had been a number of ethnic groups that is still being felt in African politics. Before European influence, national borders were not much of a concern, with Africans generally following the practice of other areas of the world, such as the Arabian Peninsula, where a group's territory was congruent with its military or trade influence. The European insistence of drawing borders around territories to isolate them from those of other colonial powers often had the effect of separating otherwise contiguous political groups, or forcing traditional enemies to live side by side with no buffer between them. For example, although the Congo River appears to be a natural geographic boundary, there were groups that otherwise shared a language, culture or other similarity living on both sides. The division of the land between Belgium and France along the river isolated these groups from each other."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa


If you want info about a specific country, I know about Ghana and Nigeria (colonized by the british )and some of the west African countries like senegal and cote d'ivoire (colnized by french).

Ye're going to defend all black people? Even vicious, black murderers? ...just 'cause their black?

Damn, you're more racist than anyone else here at sciforums!!

Baron Max

So says the Devils the Son in Law!

Ah OK. All I was meaning though is Nigeria is know as a danger zone in the UK and I thought high violence and happiness usually make poor bed fellows. Although how reliable is the study anyway? I mean how do you equate happiness? go around asking everyone if they are happy and check they haven't a painted on smile?

Like I said, there currently isn't a war going on in Nigeria but once in a while we hear about an accident in Kano (a state in Nigeria) or in Lagos. usually an ethnic group having conflict with another one over land or religion e.t.c.

I think the study is reliable because like i said, i've lived in Nigeria (till i was 12) and when we came to the US, life hasn't been much other than daily stress, how much hours to work to make a certain amount of money, how it's a crime to be fat and good to starve yourself and be skinny, all the ads on tv telling you you look bad if you don't dress in the new pink botton up shirt.
Nigeria in general is more laid back than that.
We believe in God and feel that all things is possible through him. we are happy we're alive and well. we are happy when we help people.
you don't have to call for an appointment you can walk in whenever and be welcomed. people don't stay in their houses and mind their businesses like in the U.S. everyone is familiar with everyone in their neighbor hood. when bad happens, we share it together, when good happens we rejoice together.

It's just like saying: because there was 9/11 bombing in the us, everyone is unhappy. No people are usually unhappy in the US because they compare themselves to celebrities and all that or they want to be superior to someone else e.t.c.

also there is inequality in African counties like there is everywhere (maybe worse in African countries though) where a really rich person lives next door to a really poor person and nothing is done about it.
but usually the rich live in certain area.
I think if the govt. was more efficient, something would be done to ameliorate this condition.http://www.africanexplorer.info/admin/upload/sofilagos.gif

the wars againts africa:
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=2&ItemID=11371

Darfur: Rwanda Next Time?
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=2&ItemID=11130

Whither Darfur?
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=2&ItemID=10790

Out of Iraq, Into Darfur"? Just Saying No to Imperialist Intervention
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=2&ItemID=10247

I was under the impression that we kept the racists here around purely for entertainment reasons.
absolutley.

I think the study is reliable because like i said, i've lived in Nigeria (till i was 12) and when we came to the US, life hasn't been much other than daily stress, how much hours to work to make a certain amount of money, how it's a crime to be fat and good to starve yourself and be skinny, all the ads on tv telling you you look bad if you don't dress in the new pink botton up shirt.
Nigeria in general is more laid back than that..

Yeah I hear ya.


It's just like saying: because there was 9/11 bombing in the us, everyone is unhappy. No people are usually unhappy in the US because they compare themselves to celebrities and all that or they want to be superior to someone else e.t.c.

Not really, but continual violence and fear of your neighbours is a different matter, but if its not like that I'll stand corrected.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/violent-coast.shtml

thanks for the links, outlandish.

Have anyone seen "Hotel Rwanda" i loved that movie. And anyone who wants to learn a little (just a little) about the country of Rwanda should watch it.
it brought tears to my eyes.

there's a preview here i think
http://www.hotelrwanda.com/main.html

I just watched it yesterday oddly enough. We also watched it in class last year. Love that movie...it just makes me so sad and mad at the same time. Stupid Belgians who did that.

I just watched it yesterday oddly enough. Stupid Belgians who did that.


The sad thing, most people have no idea of that concept.

Yeah I hear ya.



Not really, but continual violence and fear of your neighbours is a different matter, but if its not like that I'll stand corrected.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/violent-coast.shtml

like someone pointed out to me earlier. It's like the cool thing now to lump every African country under the same umbrella.
If a war is going on in one country, it automatically means everyone in africa is dying and begging to be dead than alive.
I didn't fear my neighbors (maybe those who lived on the borders did because there's always land conflict like that). the only things i had to fear was at night there might be robbers looking for money to feed their family for christmas but that didn't mean i hated life.

like the survey points out:
PATH TO HAPPINESS
Genetic propensity to happiness
Marriage
Make friends and value them
Desire less
Do someone a good turn
Have faith (religious or not)
Stop comparing your looks with others
Earn more money
Grow old gracefully
Don't worry if you're not a genius

faith is a huge part.
I've never heard of someone being atheist or not having faith in God until i came to the U.S it's interesting though but where will you turn when trouble strikes.
like we saw there was a wave of people who turned back to religion after 9/11.

I lived in Nigeria but i've never met someone with Aids. That doesn't mean it's not rampant. it just means not everyone in Africa is afflicted with aids and walks around naked and live pathethic lives like the media wants you to believe.

like someone pointed out to me earlier. It's like the cool thing now to lump every African country under the same umbrella.
If a war is going on in one country, it automatically means everyone in africa is dying and begging to be dead than alive.
I didn't fear my neighbors (maybe those who lived on the borders did because there's always land conflict like that). the only things i had to fear was at night there might be robbers looking for money to feed their family for christmas but that didn't mean i hated life.

like the survey points out:
PATH TO HAPPINESS
Genetic propensity to happiness
Marriage
Make friends and value them
Desire less
Do someone a good turn
Have faith (religious or not)
Stop comparing your looks with others
Earn more money
Grow old gracefully
Don't worry if you're not a genius

faith is a huge part.
I've never heard of someone being atheist or not having faith in God until i came to the U.S it's interesting though but where will you turn when trouble strikes.
like we saw there was a wave of people who turned back to religion after 9/11.

I lived in Nigeria but i've never met someone with Aids. That doesn't mean it's not rampant. it just means not everyone in Africa is afflicted with aids and walks around naked and live pathethic lives like the media wants you to believe.

I dont really give a shit dude. I would rather believe the bbc's claim that Nigeria is part of the west coast termoil over a spurious claim that Nigerians feel the happiest people alive though, but thats not saying much, because I dont really trust journalists.

I dont really give a shit dude. I would rather believe the bbc's claim that Nigeria is art of the west6 coast termoil over a spurious claim that Nigerians feel the happiest people alive though, but thats not saying much, because I dont really trust journalists.

that's the sad fact of life.
some people get satisfaction and enjoyment from believing that there's someone on the other side of the planet living worse off than them even though it might not be true.

no one wants reality.

tv says europe is sending troops and helping africa with money but when you go down to the root of it (watch hotel rwanda -a true story) this is not the case at all. In fact, the countries are being exploited not helped as they tell you.

you don't trust journalist but you trust the bad and sometimes wrong info they feed you. you select what you want to hear or what you want to happen.
news is entertainment. you enjoy the news of war in another country but despise the news of happiness in it. sad fact of life

:) i'm not a guy btw.lol

I don’t think that I would ever want to travel to an African country. Forget about the government corruption and the tribal wars. The African continent also seems to have the highest number creatures that can harm or kill humans. I don’t think that I would want to visit South America (parasites) or Australia (venomous snakes and spiders) either, but if I was stung or bitten by a venomous creature in Australia I would at least get the proper medical attention. Getting the proper medical attention in Africa would all depend on which country I was in. Africa may be a beautiful continent when I’m watching a nature show on my television, but I would not want to experience the real thing. African bees, malaria, dangerous carnivores, Guinea worms, deadly snakes (especially the black mamba), deadly spiders, deadly scorpions, combined with extreme heat (most countries), violent cultures (some countries), archaic laws (most countries), unsanitary conditions (most countries) and inadequate medical care (most countries). It is truly a continent of misery. That’s just my opinion. I suppose that it would be ok if I were at a vacation resort or a nice hotel.

I just watched it yesterday oddly enough. We also watched it in class last year. Love that movie...it just makes me so sad and mad at the same time. Stupid Belgians who did that.

it was sad. one of my friends watched part of it in their history class too. that's how he told me about it.

...when I’m watching a nature show on my television, but I would not want to experience the real thing.
Nature shows on television are nothing compared to the real thing.

I don’t think that I would ever want to travel to an African country. Forget about the government corruption and the tribal wars. The African continent also seems to have the highest number creatures that can harm or kill humans. I don’t think that I would want to visit South America (parasites) or Australia (venomous snakes and spiders) either, but if I was stung or bitten by a venomous creature in Australia I would at least get the proper medical attention. Getting the proper medical attention in Africa would all depend on which country I was in. Africa may be a beautiful continent when I’m watching a nature show on my television, but I would not want to experience the real thing. African bees, malaria, dangerous carnivores, Guinea worms, deadly snakes (especially the black mamba), deadly spiders, deadly scorpions, combined with extreme heat (most countries), violent cultures (some countries), archaic laws (most countries), unsanitary conditions (most countries) and inadequate medical care (most countries). It is truly a continent of misery. That’s just my opinion. I suppose that it would be ok if I were at a vacation resort or a nice hotel.

I never saw a real life snake except when i went to the zoo.
Like crazyfreespirit and i mentioned earlier, we don't roam about with monkeys and lions. we have cities and rural areas and towns just like in most parts of the world.
there is inadequate medical care in the United States too. It affects the poor and there are many poor people in Nigeria.

staying in a vacation resort or a hotel only will only worsen your miconception because African tourist workers feel that the only reason europeans visit is to see animals so that's the first thing they'll show you.
instead, rent a condo or something like that and walk the streets sometimes observe people that's the real reason to visit a country not to lock self up a an unrealistic resort and think you've felt the country.

If you have a good paying job e.t.c, there are good hospitals and clinics in Nigeria (and i bet most countries in Africa) but average poor people don't have access to it. (same thing in the U.S only that there are fewer poor people in U.S).

Africa have wild animals for sure but they live in the forest and all that. not among human beings.
Another misconception about Africa.

that's the sad fact of life.
some people get satisfaction and enjoyment from believing that there's someone on the other side of the planet living worse off than them even though it might not be true.

no one wants reality.

tv says europe is sending troops and helping africa with money but when you go down to the root of it (watch hotel rwanda -a true story) this is not the case at all. In fact, the countries are being exploited not helped as they tell you.

you don't trust journalist but you trust the bad and sometimes wrong info they feed you. you select what you want to hear or what you want to happen.news is entertainment. you enjoy the news of war in another country but despise the news of happiness in it. sad fact of lifeNo certainly not, but I get the feeling their claim is slightly more reliable than yours, sorry! News is not entertainment to me. I just picked up somewhere that Nigeria was a tourist no go zone of sorts. I've traveled a bit..


:) i'm not a guy btw.lol
OK I wont hold it against you.................
........Or maybe I will.:D

it's okay. I'm not forcing anyone to visit a country.
I'm a type of person that gets fascinated by people and places and i would like to visit a whole bunch of places before i die. of course not everyone's like that so it's okay.

No country is a tourist no go zone. you just have to be safe, plan and be really into it.

i can't decide for you what to listen to. you can hold on dear to your believe that everyone in Africa roam about naked and climb trees because your source is more dear to you but it's not true at all.
methinks a lot of times, it's better to read books than watch tv though especially on issues like this.

like Nickelodeon says "nature shows are nothing compared to the real thing"
i've seen a state portrayed as beautiful and great to visit on tv but when i visited, i didn't like it at all.

why will you hold it against me? :)

I lived in Nigeria for 12 years and never saw a real life snake except when i went to the zoo.
Like crazyfreespirit and i mentioned earlier, we don't roam about with monkeys and lions. we have cities and rural areas and towns just like in most parts of the world.
there is inadequate medical care in the United States too. It affects the poor and there are many poor people in Nigeria.

staying in a vacation resort or a hotel only will only worsen your miconception because African tourist workers feel that the only reason europeans visit is to see animals so that's the first thing they'll show you.
instead, rent a condo or something like that and walk the streets sometimes observe people that's the real reason to visit a country not to lock self up a an unrealistic resort and think you've felt the country.

If you have a good paying job e.t.c, there are good hospitals and clinics in Nigeria (and i bet most countries in Africa) but average poor people don't have access to it. (same thing in the U.S only that there are fewer poor people in U.S).

Africa have wild animals for sure but they live in the forest and all that. not among human beings.
Another misconception about Africa.

I don’t have any misconceptions about Africa. I am not one of the many people that talks about Africa as if it were a country and not a continent. You didn’t see any snakes in Nigeria because you were not in the correct geographic location to see them. I am fully aware about the low risk of being attacked by a wild animal in an Africans town or city. The risk is probably about the same as me being attacked by a black bare where I live. (Canada) And of course, once again the risk will vary depending on your geographic location.

I think you said something about being a woman in one of your earlier posts. How do you feel about the privileges that women have in Nigeria (Sharia laws) and other African countries?

I don’t have any misconceptions about Africa. I am not one of the many people that talks about Africa as if it were a country and not a continent.

just because you know africa is a continent doesn't mean you don't have misconceptions..

You didn’t see any snakes in Nigeria because you were not in the correct geographic location to see them.

go ahead and teach me about the geography of my country. I'm all ears :)


The risk is probably about the same as me being attacked by a black bare where I live. (Canada) And of course, once again the risk will vary depending on your geographic location. I am fully aware about the low risk of being attacked by a wild animal in an Africans town or city.

Exactly! and you know that if you plan to live in the forests and wild areas of canada, you have a high risk of being attacked right?
Same thing in Nigeria. A snake won't bite you unless you go into the bushes.
and i bet you don't plan to stay in the bushes unless you have absolutely no place to live.
90% of snakes aren't poisonous anyways.
There's also a low risk of being attacked by wild animals in a lot of rural areas in the south west and east (where my grand parents and relatives live).


I think you said something about being a woman in one of your earlier posts. How do you feel about the privileges that women have in Nigeria (Sharia laws) and other African countries?

Yes, i am a 16 year old young woman.
Another misconception about Africa and it's countries.
like outlandish said earlier (and i touched on), every country can't be lumped up and considered the same. people in the same country even can't be lumped up and considered the same (unlike in many other continents. and that's why Africa is different).
In Nigeria for example, there are three main ethnic groups: HAUSA, YORUBA (me), and IGBO. there hundreds of others that aren't in the majority.
Hausas are primarily muslims (it was brought from the middle east i think) while Igbos are primarily christians (the british missionaries i think) the Yorubas are a mixture of muslims and christians. I'm christian.
Shar'ia laws are muslim laws that only some Hausa states in the north practice.
(i wouldn't say for example that the whole of United States is a gay people state just because the state of massachusetts tolerates it. If you go to texas, you probably could get murdered for being gay.)

the rest of the country does not practice it and that's why there's always religious conflict in Nigeria.
You could drive 30 minutes away from where you are and find a group of totally different people who speak different languages act totally different in their customs and even worship differently from you.
that's why Nigeria is hard to govern.

so, that said, women in the northern Hausa part of Africa don't have much rights because that area was influenced by the middle east (sharia is also practiced in some Middle eastern countries like afghanistan). And Nigeria just recently re-introduced it. probably because the Nigerian govt. is ineffective so pretty much some parts take law in their own lands and rule acoording to religion - theocracy.

the condition, social place of women is different in the south east of nigeria than fron the north, west, south south. and even still, the condition of women in nigeria is different than in Ghana, togo or even farther east in ethiopia or even in congo.

of course i don't support the sha'ria law. I'm not muslim and i didn't live in the north. with time the practice will eventually go out (there was a wave at a certain point and then it reduced) maybe when the gov.t becomes more effective and centralized.

it's okay. I'm not forcing anyone to visit a country.
I'm a type of person that gets fascinated by people and places and i would like to visit a whole bunch of places before i die. of course not everyone's like that so it's okay.

I would still consider visiting the country, where did I say that I wouldnt?

No country is a tourist no go zone. you just have to be safe, plan and be really into it.
No you dont understand, a no go zone is just a classification for a place that is generally avoided by tourist, obviously there are still tourists to every country in the world.
i can't decide for you what to listen to. you can hold on dear to your believe that everyone in Africa roam about naked and climb trees because your source is more dear to you but it's not true at all.If your going to twist what I say then I am more inclined to believe you are just trying to paint up your dear country, rather than present an objective view.
methinks a lot of times, it's better to read books than watch tv though especially on issues like this.
Sometimes, but books are usually rather less up to date than other media, but thats besides the point.

like Nickelodeon says "nature shows are nothing compared to the real thing"
i've seen a state portrayed as beautiful and great to visit on tv but when i visited, i didn't like it at all.
Yes of course, why is a 16 year old preaching this to a 27 year old, who has been all over the world?

why will you hold it against me? :)

I dont know if its legal in your country to communicate that to you.:D

I keep mistaking you for go101. my mistake. sorry.



I dont know if its legal in your country to communicate that to you.:D

oh. . keep the gay words to yourself then. lol it probably isn't legal in my country. :cool:


I guess by now we all know that Africa has 61 countries (it used to be 59 when i was in primary 6 or we probably skipped two?)lol
there are urban areas as well as rural areas.
it might not be as technological saavy as the United States of America and Japan but we're a happy bunch.
we have bad leaders (Ghana just recently got a stable gov.t and i'm excited for them) and i wish they could disappear so we could have real leaders for once that actually care about something other than their pockets and bellies. lol

thanks for reading.

I would say kiss my ass, but that would probably be illegal too being that we are unrelated and unmarried, so I wont. :)

haha good one. :d

but seriously though. Africa Rocks!

but seriously though. Africa Rocks!

I'm glad you showed up here at the forums ...with this one thread, you've saved me thousands of dollars a year in donations to African charities. I can now use that money for Americans.

Also, I must say that this thread also proves conclusively that the news media lies like a damned rug. Most, if not all, Americans believe that Africa is poverty-stricken and the people are starving. What a load of bullshit!

Baron Max

How very amusing.

haters. :cool:

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South Africa compared to South America

Pangaea 180 million years ago, then Gondwana ~160 mya, they were both one continent; and are still at approximately the same latitudes. So what happened to explain the difference in cultures from a geographic point-of-view?

Just thought I'd throw a wrench in:)

Valich:

Humans have only been around for a fraction of that time. There was no culture to speak of at that period.

I don’t think that I would ever want to travel to an African country. Forget about the government corruption and the tribal wars. The African continent also seems to have the highest number creatures that can harm or kill humans. I don’t think that I would want to visit South America (parasites) or Australia (venomous snakes and spiders) either, but if I was stung or bitten by a venomous creature in Australia I would at least get the proper medical attention. Getting the proper medical attention in Africa would all depend on which country I was in. Africa may be a beautiful continent when I’m watching a nature show on my television, but I would not want to experience the real thing. African bees, malaria, dangerous carnivores, Guinea worms, deadly snakes (especially the black mamba), deadly spiders, deadly scorpions, combined with extreme heat (most countries), violent cultures (some countries), archaic laws (most countries), unsanitary conditions (most countries) and inadequate medical care (most countries). It is truly a continent of misery. That’s just my opinion. I suppose that it would be ok if I were at a vacation resort or a nice hotel.

Don't forget the highest percentage and largest population of AIDS/HIV on Earth, and the number of infectious diseases (some incureable), like trypanosomiasis (African Sleeping Sickness), onchocerciasis (River Blindness), malaria and hepatitis.

apart from the corrupt govt. and the harsh economy (that affects everything including how much education people get) Africa is indeed beautiful and it's sad that people have these horrible views.

I think that if Africa's nations would be wealthy enough to support their own, little of that beauty would be left. It would have been consumed by capitalist industrials...

Don't forget the highest percentage and largest population of AIDS/HIV on Earth, and the number of infectious diseases (some incureable), like trypanosomiasis (African Sleeping Sickness), onchocerciasis (River Blindness), malaria and hepatitis.
Shock! Horror! Oh my! Stay indoors! Mommy I'm frightened!

A girl I know caught onchocerciasis while serving in the Peace Corps in africa and now has to take medication to control it for the rest of her life. Was it worth it?

You can drink water from a stream in North America and catch giardiasis, which we have medication to cure, but it would be suicide to even think about doing the same in Africa.

Urm, remember that Africa is a continent. You don't get those diseases everywhere. Only the most northerly-eastern parts of South Africa have malaria and bilharzia. Deadly snakes and scorpions don't usually show up in cities and dying of spider bite is less likely than dying of bee-sting. Don't sleep around or share needles and HIV isn't a problem.

And in the southeast...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Drakensburgmountains.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drakensberg)

I would love to visit places in Africa. Lowi, what are places you recommend?

Ye're going to defend all black people? Even vicious, black murderers? ...just 'cause their black?

Damn, you're more racist than anyone else here at sciforums!!

Guess who would win the award for being best at putting words in other people's mouths.

Well, golly, with all of that, it seems that Africa doesn't need our help. In fact, with all that, perhaps we should be asking Africa to help us!

Yeah, because we all know they have the necessary resources to help other nations and we don't, right?

have you ever been to an African country or maybe a south american country ?

Of course he hasn't. He's too happy living in his own little world where America is supreme and the rest of the world is just a fairy tale myth.

Lowi: Have anyone seen "Hotel Rwanda" i loved that movie. And anyone who wants to learn a little (just a little) about the country of Rwanda should watch it.


I didn't much like Hotel Rwanda. Sometimes in April is a much better film

http://www.hbo.com/films/sometimesinapril/

Hotel Rwanda focus is very narrow compared with Sometimes in April.

I would love to visit places in Africa. Lowi, what are places you recommend?



Tunisia in North Africa is very nice, lots of sight seeing, beautiful beaches, clean, lots of history there. Lot of Roman influence etc.

Never mind the fuckers, they believe everything they hear, there are plenty of nice places in African countries, people are just too broke to afford it(laughs).

ToR how do you know about that, you been there? (jealous)

Anyway I wanted to say I was laughing very hard just now, you are right guys I did think Africa was a country not a contienent, hahaha. I can't believe I was so stupid, lol I keep thinking of Africa, and I think "Country" hahaha.

Anyways I think if the country were so fantastic many of you claiming to visit often would never have come to the US in the first place. Of course had I been you guys I'd have gone to Japan but ehh.

Anyway Africa is known widely as a place of hungary, lowly, and mostly poor peoples. There isn't anything I've heard about Africa being a good place, in truth many call it "The Land Of Night" because it never seems to have a bright day.

Been here? I live here :rolleyes: maybe that's why I see through some of the stereotypes...

Africa is very beautiful and has an astonishing amount of natural resources. Pity the natives haven't been able to make much of it.

One thing I know, you can never under estimate the power of denial and propaganda, and I know Africa has drawn the smallest straw on that issue compared to all other continents. Its probably started about 100 years ago, when Africans refused to go back home because of the wonderful things they saw in America, but I know propaganda has a lot to do with it, both on paper and on the streets, after all what else do you need in life after food and shelter. There is still a lot of time and space for development, and even that is impossible if things don't try to change. Maybe they can start by changing the name of the continent, its not too bad.

Yeah change it to happy land seeing as everyones reportedly having so much fun. :bugeye:

Yeah change it to happy land seeing as everyones reportedly having so much fun.

Just because you are depressed doesn't mean everyone else is

Im not depressed! Im on top of the world Ma!

You can drink water from a stream in North America and catch giardiasis, which we have medication to cure, but it would be suicide to even think about doing the same in Africa.


Whooaa :eek: :m: So in Africa, I can catch giardiasis just by THINKING about it!!!!

I'm never going there!!

since a few threads in this site seem to me to be a bash Africa and all black people thread, and i being black, I got to defend myself and my people :bugeye: lol

I don't think Africa sucks. There are lots of African nationalists who think Europe isn't to their liking, either.

CHeck here:

http://www.nationalistplanet.com/

It's my personal favorite. WHites, blacks and Mexicans talk peacefully about ethnic separation, and have fun doing it.

Also, :m: -friendly, which is important... rilly.

Lowi come back we dont think Africa sucks! some parts are just not the place we would choose to live. North Africa is pretty cool if you kill all of the people who want to sell you a camel ride every 5 minutes.

Well Africa does kind of suck, what with all the corruption and poverty going on. But if you enjoy adventuring there's no place like it.

Yeah I'm back. lol

Nice to see all the feedback.:)
now, I'm not saying Africa is some sort of paradise like heaven e.t.c.
No continent is.
But Africa doesn't suck the way the media exaggerates it to be. there are ugly places you don't want to go and there are beautiful places you wouldn't want to leave.
if there wasn't corruption going on with the governments and ethnic clashes, it'll be a better place than it is today no doubt.

I'm going to do study abroad in Senegal (it's in west Africa) when i start college (Like we all know cough. . cough.. Africa is a huge continent with several countries and i've only lived in one and visited a few and would like to spend some time in more places).
People i've met who've done it liked the experience and i can't wait.

Everyone have opinions and inputs whether negative or positive but usually (and sadly), those with solely negative opinions about Africa have neither been there or had much contact with people from there.

Africa rocks.
America rocks too. lol Even Europe does.
but some people in each of these continents suck to the least degree though. lol j/k.

@Lucysnow, i'll try to see "Sometimes in April" I learn more everyday. :)