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Vega
04-24-07, 03:24 AM
There are some very strange hieroglyphics in the Temple of Osiris at Abydos.
These glyphs depict highly developed crafts, specifically a helicopter, a submarine, some form of flying saucer, and a jet plane. What are these inscriptions all about?

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/egipto/abydos/abyhelic.htm

draqon
04-24-07, 08:16 AM
fake

matthyaouw
04-24-07, 11:45 AM
Real, but misleading.

The glyphs are a result of both erosion of the stone surface (evident elsewhere in the temple) and the process of filling in and re-carving the stone to replace some of the original hieroglyphics. The technical term for such a surface that has been written on more than once is a palimpsest. The usurping and modifying of inscriptions was common in ancient Egypt throughout its history. The Abydos glyph was modified at least once in antiquity, and perhaps twice. Some of the filling has fallen out in places where the older and the newer inscriptions overlap, and the result is unique and odd-looking
http://www.catchpenny.org/abydos.html
http://members.tripod.com/~A_U_R_A/abydos.html

darksidZz
04-24-07, 02:15 PM
Are they real or what?! They sure look like helicopters and subs, this is freakin me out!

draqon
04-24-07, 02:17 PM
Are they real or what?! They sure look like helicopters and subs, this is freakin me out!

its fake obviously, no way could erosions have done something like that.
Someone faked it so that tourists keep coming

SkinWalker
04-24-07, 02:34 PM
I have thoroughly debunked that palimpsest in other places. Once this thread is moved to its appropriate forum (Pseudodscience), perhaps I'll repost that debunking.

Edit: what the hell... I'll re-post it here:

There's a very good explanation that we archaeologists understand very well: a palimpsest combined with pareidolia. This palimpsest pops up from time to time. What we see here isn't a single inscription but two or three. As different pharaohs took over, they frequently had inscriptions updated with a very simple method that 'erased' the previous inscription: they had their scribes fill in the old script with plaster and inscribe a new one.

The original, un-retouched palimpsest is here:

http://www.catchpenny.org/images/abydos5.gif

Here's an overlay of the two, and possibly three, different text layers. Each layer is translatable and has context.

http://www.catchpenny.org/images/abydos3.gif

This is the text in it's context with the pharaoh's cartouche to the left.

http://www.catchpenny.org/images/abydos4.gif

What the original text says is, "who repulses the Nine Bows" and the text that replaces it says, "who protects Egypt and overthrows the foreign countries." These are called titularies, or naming conventions of important people, in this case pharaohs. Specifically, the pharoahs in question are Seti I (for whom the first titulary of the palimpsest was dedicated to) and then his son and successor Ramesses II (for whom the second titulary of the palimpsest is dedicated).

The plaster of the palimpsest was eroded, probably by water leaking in through the ceiling. Notice, in the OP's first image the damaged ceiling and the direction of the damage is consistent with the eroded area of the palimpsest.

There are no "flying machines" in Egyptian antiquity. Sorry to disappoint the significance-junkies out there. But the mystery-mongers need not fret because the intricacies of the hows and whys of dynastic politics in Egypt's antiquity are many and little understood.

nietzschefan
04-24-07, 03:29 PM
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_7.htm

Nikelodeon
04-24-07, 03:31 PM
Is that helicopter Airwolf? Awesome.

one_raven
04-24-07, 03:38 PM
They don't look like "highly developed crafts, specifically a helicopter, a submarine, some form of flying saucer, and a jet plane" to me at all.

The Devil Inside
04-24-07, 06:56 PM
Is that helicopter Airwolf? Awesome.

ernest borgnine was egyptian?

leet haxorzz on a stick!!!!!!

Roman
04-24-07, 07:13 PM
Whoa.