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stephenjames
12-05-07, 12:15 PM
What motivates people to abuse? Why is it that people practice acts of psychological, sexual, and physical abuse on a regular basis?

Enmos
12-05-07, 12:16 PM
Abuse is a sign of sociological weakness..

cosmictraveler
12-05-07, 01:13 PM
Many times people abuse others because they have been abused

themselves. Then there are those who just like to bully others because they

can get away with it for no one tries to stop them.

greenberg
12-05-07, 02:25 PM
Because they are bored.
Because they can.
Because they think what they do is right and is not abuse at all.
Because they are unhappy.

Enmos
12-05-07, 02:31 PM
No, usually it is because they are unable to resolve the matter in any other way.. as I said sociological weakness :)

greenberg
12-05-07, 03:01 PM
Subjective realities, Enmos.
Maybe they don't see it as "something to resolve".

Enmos
12-05-07, 03:02 PM
Subjective realities, Enmos.
Maybe they don't see it as "something to resolve".

Well, wouldn't that point to a sociological weakness ? ;)

greenberg
12-05-07, 03:13 PM
No. It could also point to that it is you who has the problem and not them.

Enmos
12-05-07, 03:14 PM
No. It could also point to that it is you who has the problem and not them.

Huh? The abuser ? If so, I don't see how we disagree..

S.A.M.
12-05-07, 03:15 PM
Insecurity and low self esteem. Sometimes fear and sadism.

greenberg
12-05-07, 03:41 PM
Huh? The abuser ? If so, I don't see how we disagree..

No. I mean that it might be that the "victim" is the one who has a "sociological weakness" and not the one whom the "victim" calls the "abuser".

Enmos
12-05-07, 03:44 PM
No. I mean that it might be that the "victim" is the one who has a "sociological weakness" and not the one whom the "victim" calls the "abuser".

I really don't think so..

Enmos
12-05-07, 03:45 PM
Insecurity and low self esteem. Sometimes fear and sadism.

I agree, the latter two are of course brought on by the first two :)

greenberg
12-05-07, 03:49 PM
I really don't think so..

Abusive relationships tend to be very complex.

Check this out, for example - Shifting Roles in Abusive Relationships (http://psychcentral.com/library/id88.html).

Enmos
12-05-07, 03:52 PM
Abusive relationships tend to be very complex.

Check this out, for example - Shifting Roles in Abusive Relationships (http://psychcentral.com/library/id88.html).

Well, of course the victim might also have sociological shortcomings but the reason the abuser resorts to violence in stead of any other action still points to his own sociological shortcomings.

shichimenshyo
12-05-07, 03:58 PM
Also in many cases abuse in a relationship is indicative of a substance abuse problem by the abuser.



those classified as the heaviest drinkers (22 or more drinks per week) were 66 percent more likely to abuse their spouses than those classified as abstainers. In addition, self-reported moderate (8 to 14 drinks per week) and heavy drinkers (15 to 21 drinks per week) were three times as likely, and light drinkers (1 to 7 drinks per week) were twice as likely, as soldiers who report they typically consume less than one drink per week, to be drinking during the time of the abuse event.


http://alcoholism.about.com/od/abuse/a/blacer041214.htm

greenberg
12-05-07, 04:33 PM
Well, of course the victim might also have sociological shortcomings but the reason the abuser resorts to violence in stead of any other action still points to his own sociological shortcomings.

Perhaps the "abuser" aims for goals that cannot be reached any other way than by using violence.

Enmos
12-05-07, 04:36 PM
Perhaps the "abuser" aims for goals that cannot be reached any other way than by using violence.

Violence does rarely solves anything. It's quite irrational to use it, there most likely is some psychological problem at the root of it.
Especially if the abuser makes a habit of it.

Orleander
12-05-07, 04:38 PM
I've see abusers lash out and not realize they have snapped til its over. They have no self control. Its an immaturity.

shichimenshyo
12-05-07, 04:40 PM
I've see abusers lash out and not realize they have snapped til its over. They have no self control. Its an immaturity.

I would say that they have an extreme desire to control others, and the only way they know how is through violence.

Enmos
12-05-07, 04:42 PM
I've see abusers lash out and not realize they have snapped til its over. They have no self control. Its an immaturity.

I would say that they have an extreme desire to control others, and the only way they know how is through violence.

These are all symptoms, not the cause of the behavior.

greenberg
12-05-07, 04:56 PM
What motivates people to abuse? Why is it that people practice acts of psychological, sexual, and physical abuse on a regular basis?

For example, Christian fundamentalists practice psychological abuse on non-Christians.
Why do they do that?

According to them, they are not being abusive, but loving.

Orleander
12-05-07, 04:57 PM
For example, Christian fundamentalists practice psychological abuse on non-Christians.
Why do they do that?

According to them, they are not being abusive, but loving.

What kind of Christians do you know???

greenberg
12-05-07, 05:03 PM
My "loving" relatives and "friends", Catholics and Protestants, for example.
In my opinion, they are using their religion to blackmail me in the relationship. They of course claim they are doing no such thing. To them, holding me responsible to God, reprimanding me in the name of God, holding me to their standards is perfectly right and loving. The fact that it sometimes makes me want to blow a hole in brain means to them only that they are right and I am evil. Thus proof that their religion is true and right.

sniffy
12-06-07, 02:48 AM
Step away from the '"loving" relatives and "friends"'. Many a happy abuser wears the cloak of religion. If you believe in a god then you are answerable only to that god. Or yourself or no-one.

Abusers? From a long line of abusers usually.

DeepThought
12-06-07, 03:01 AM
What motivates people to abuse? Why is it that people practice acts of psychological, sexual, and physical abuse on a regular basis?


The human mind is naturally parasitic.

Feeding off the pain and suffering of others.

Who here can honestly say they didn't enjoy Satyr abusing other posters?

(and of course, the posters were....deserving.)

Donnal
12-06-07, 03:05 AM
yep they do they want to control and they hallucinate in their puny little heads
then they actually believe what they are thinking
soooo they attack out on the weakest .....just incase they cop it first so they get in first before it happens
thats my observation on people that are abusive

Donnal
12-06-07, 04:06 AM
i was told by heaps of workers for woman abuse that its a form of brainwashing
to bring the woman down to their way how they want her and then its easy to keep her
she wont leave him then the psychological affect on the woman is severe if she leaves him he has a hold then and the pain turns to real she could get cancer or sores in the tummy or age more or get fat or lose weight
the abuse is real

Donnal
12-06-07, 04:11 AM
and its dam sad too when people just stand back and let it happen
they say none of our business like that
but the woman dont know whats going on cause most dont know the knowledge of abuse or what it can do the lingering pain or the damage it leaves not just mentally but in the body too

MetaKron
12-06-07, 05:30 AM
What motivates people to abuse? Why is it that people practice acts of psychological, sexual, and physical abuse on a regular basis?

Fun, profit, control over one's own life at the expense of others. There is also beer, sex, and partying.

MetaKron
12-06-07, 05:31 AM
and its dam sad too when people just stand back and let it happen
they say none of our business like that
but the woman dont know whats going on cause most dont know the knowledge of abuse or what it can do the lingering pain or the damage it leaves not just mentally but in the body too

They sit back and let it happen because they get to participate in all the "fun" vicariously.

lucifers angel
12-08-07, 05:56 PM
Abuse is a sign of sociological weakness..

people (some) like to see fear in peoples eyes, and some just like to dominate, and some are just evil nasty basterds!

its not a weakness, personally i think people abuse are just wanting to see and hear fear

Enmos
12-08-07, 06:00 PM
people (some) like to see fear in peoples eyes, and some just like to dominate, and some are just evil nasty basterds!

its not a weakness, personally i think people abuse are just wanting to see and hear fear

Maybe I should rephrase.
Abuse is a sign of warped, 'damaged' or downright fucked up sociological values..

MetaKron
12-08-07, 07:18 PM
No, usually it is because they are unable to resolve the matter in any other way.. as I said sociological weakness :)

Because they can't let go. Why does it matter so much what other people think?

Enmos
12-08-07, 07:21 PM
Because they can't let go. Why does it matter so much what other people think?

I don't know.. you mean to them (abusers) I guess ?