(working under the premise that there is a blanket ban on all abortions) is it the fault of someone to seek abortion as a way to save their own lives?
Should morals even enter into the debate if it's a medical problem ?

I'm not sure fault is the right word, but certainly it is not immoral to want to save your life by removing a small growth from your uterus.

No, if it puts your own life in danger, you should do anything you can
to save yourself.

Even if it doesn't. Raising a child when you are in no position to do so is immoral.

Even if it doesn't. Raising a child when you are in no position to do so is immoral.


agreed :)

Even if it doesn't. Raising a child when you are in no position to do so is immoral.

True, lots of ppl out there shouldn't have any kids!

That's why if I go to college and someone starts shooting at me I'm going to grab the nearest infant and use it as a shield. Their weight and size make them excellent as a fully rotatable mobile bullet absorber (FRMBA). Better the infant than me, I've always said.

That's why if I go to college and someone starts shooting at me I'm going to grab the nearest infant and use it as a shield. Their weight and size make them excellent as a fully rotatable mobile bullet absorber (FRMBA). Better the infant than me, I've always said.


But with there muscle mass not fully developed they would be less likely to stop a bullet than a toddler, or maybe a fat guy

Even if it doesn't. Raising a child when you are in no position to do so is immoral.

put it up for adoption

Would you risk your own life for your child? Then why not a fetus?

Would you risk your own life for your child? Then why not a fetus?

cuz its still a stranger and I don't love it yet.

put it up for adoption

It's still a strain on the planet.

It's still a strain on the planet.

thanks I was adopted lol

As cowardly as this sounds i could never put my child up for adoption, i'd be too scared that they would grow up and come find me and start asking questions. I think it would be pretty difficult to justify my actions. If i start a family, i would love to adopt or foster.

I was adopted and have no intention of finding anybody. I got some information
when I was about 23 from a registry. I learned enough to know that I was glad
I was put up for adoption.

As cowardly as this sounds i could never put my child up for adoption, i'd be too scared that they would grow up and come find me and start asking questions. I think it would be pretty difficult to justify my actions. If i start a family, i would love to adopt or foster.

I don't think I could do it, but not for those reasons. I would become too attached I don't think I could give it up. It would have to be an absolute last resort.

I don't think I could do it, but not for those reasons. I would become too attached I don't think I could give it up. It would have to be an absolute last resort.

Also there's a big chance that the child wouldn't be adopted by a nice, loving family and would have to go from home to home and put up with all the shit that comes with being a foster child. Knowing that my child could possibly go through that, it would be very hard to give him/her up.

thanks I was adopted lol

You're bad for the planet! (me too)

thanks I was adopted lol

Yeah, and you're a strain on the planet! which is what he said. :D

Baron Max

I always found it incredibly hypocritical that right-to-lifers think that a traumatized rape/incest victim should be allowed to have an abortion but an irresponsible college student shouldn't.

Yeah, and you're a strain on the planet! which is what he said. :D

Baron Max

Hey Baron maybe I am your long lost daughter :eek: Lmao

I always found it incredibly hypocritical that right-to-lifers think that a traumatized rape/incest victim should be allowed to have an abortion but an irresponsible college student shouldn't.

Well, it's not hypocritical at all .....the college student had a choice, the rape victim didn't. Big difference, don'tcha' think?

Baron Max

Hey Baron maybe I am your long lost daughter :eek: Lmao

Not in the UK, you ain't! I ain't never been to limey land. :D

Baron Max

Not in the UK, you ain't! I ain't never been to limey land. :D

Baron Max

limey land? lol is that what you call Canada.

Well, it's not hypocritical at all .....the college student had a choice, the rape victim didn't. Big difference, don't cha' think?

Baron Max

No, there is no difference. Its about the baby, not the Mom. If the Mom's life isn't in danger, how is one babies life worth less than anothers?

I always found it incredibly hypocritical that right-to-lifers think that a traumatized rape/incest victim should be allowed to have an abortion but an irresponsible college student shouldn't.

Hypocritical how?

No, there is no difference. Its about the baby, not the Mom. If the Mom's life isn't in danger, how is one babies life worth less than anothers?

The baby has no relationship with other members of society.

Hypocritical how?

right-to-lifers go on and on about how precious every life is. How aborting is murder. Well, isn't aborting a rape victims child murder as well?

Their stance on abortion isn't about the baby, its about the Mom.

(working under the premise that there is a blanket ban on all abortions) is it the fault of someone to seek abortion as a way to save their own lives?

Depends on whose life is considered more valuable, doesn't it?

Should morals even enter into the debate if it's a medical problem ?

Of course. Morals enter into any debate involving a conflict of interests.

That's why if I go to college and someone starts shooting at me I'm going to grab the nearest infant and use it as a shield. Their weight and size make them excellent as a fully rotatable mobile bullet absorber (FRMBA). Better the infant than me, I've always said.

Maybe so, but then others may disagree...

There is also the question of acts vs. omissions in moral questions. If a gunman shoots the infant and you're not involved, probably you have no moral culpability. But, if you choose to use the infant as a shield, some might argue that makes you almost as culpable as the gunman. Some might argue that you should use your own body to shield the infant.

Consider.

I agree that the mother's life must be considered first but would the Abortion be an illegal
Abortion if there was a blanket ban on all Abortions,and therefor put the woman's life in more danger?

If abortion was illegal, it would be illegal regardless of danger to the mother's life.

That's one of the problems with having blanket bans on abortion.

Some might argue that you should use your own body to shield the infant.
I would agree an adult may have a better chance to survive the gunshot.

If abortion was illegal, it would be illegal regardless of danger to the mother's life.

That's one of the problems with having blanket bans on abortion.
Given that scenario she may just choose a legal option

Of course. Morals enter into any debate involving a conflict of interests.
So what's your opinion on the question in the OP(about the morality of a woman having an abortion to save her life)?

Oniw17:

I have no problem with a woman having an abortion when her own life is at stake.

Would you risk your own life for your child? Then why not a fetus?

cause a fetus meets the defianition for a parasite

Well, it's not hypocritical at all .....the college student had a choice, the rape victim didn't. Big difference, don'tcha' think?

Baron Max

why is it not neither of them are emotionial and in the college students cause finiaccially able to care for it to the extent a baby needs having it born in either case would be bad for the baby and the world's population is allready to high

In regards to a mothers life being in danger, what does that medically mean? We will spend millions keeping accident victims alive at any cost. Millions upon billions treating lung cancer and heart disease. Health issues are costing the country hundreds of billions more than likely. So " a mothers life is in danger", caused by the developing baby, why should we not spend millions trying to save the mother and child?
I would like to know if doctors are just aborting babies when there are problems medically when they could we saving them.Or trying to. I would like to hear the story where teams of doctors or working 24/7 trying to save the first tri-mester crack addict single mom and her child. We don't hear those stories enough, why not?
What we hear is " the mother's life was in danger(?)", so we killed the child.